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"The multiplayer game every boy wants"
Foffer
WHY NO ZOOM !
wtwvi
"Guys I got the point! I got the-" headshotted. looks back to see team too scared to move up despite only two enemies are in the way.
SKELETONMAAAN
Key to enjoy games: Stop being a salty fuck
Aintfraid
I play the salt powered robot, so I love the hate.
LyndiaCooey71
Symettra is my fav support for a sucky team.
Kflame210
It's so funny how everyone hates bastion when he's super easy to kill if you don't suck
HesTakingRoyOffTheGrid
Wheres dump #1?
leafspring
The amount of Bastion plays of the match is too damn high...
LosGrak
I don't even play this game but I still LOL'd at #27.
proletariatblues
Should I buy this game?
Vkro
Yep
GnomeAnnsSky
I know nothing about this game and I still find most of these hilarious
igotashake
Somehow I feel like I can understand these
RatalieArcadia
Same
TheSkeletonWar
!! QUESTION !! What does the voting actually do? When you reach Epic or 10 votes. What does it DO. Does it just stroke your ego or what?
NiRa178
It does nothing
UpToFourPlayers
Marge Simpson got me almost thinking of trying more Battleborn just because I know she's trying so hard.
AmourDeuxFilles
As someone who doesn't game........ Huh?!
Skibearbumm
I keep going Mchammer time on kids with precision German engineering to turn around with 3 widowmakers torborn and bastion not doing shit.
CanadianThemedName
"I keep telling ya, I'm Svedish!"
TheThingNoNotThatOne
http://media.tumblr.com/631641804e21a4a45810ab0dc79f6e22/tumblr_inline_mocmirmhCa1rlpk9c.gif
WalkingNature
I don't play, but going to take a stab at the meaning here: person tanks with Reinhardt only to have teammates do nothing. Was I close?
jklihu
Spot on
Skibearbumm
Yes spot on.
commentbot
The hell man?
ExperimentKraj
I play this game, and I have no idea what the fuck you typed here.
ExperimentKraj
Who has the "precision German engineering"? You, or the kids you're...killing as McCree, I guess? And does "precision German [1]
ExperimentKraj
engineering" imply someone is playing as Reinhardt? And I guess that "with 3 widowmakers torborn and bastion not doing shit" is...YOUR team?
Skibearbumm
Haha yes me playing Reinhardt and doing work with little to no assistance from my team who sits and camps not pushing the objective.
ExperimentKraj
...your team is on offense with five defense and a tank?
Maballanes
Pero que hijo de puta
Vkro
JAJAJA
ZaeithlynV
Everyone keeps saying its super easy to kill bastion and while i dont disagree im a bit skeptical. Someone enlighten me of how to kill him
CrazyGuyOnABike
Reaper, port behind him, shoot at him a little bit.
ZaeithlynV
Typically hes in a corner but yea i see how that would work
CrazyGuyOnABike
you just need to get close- you can walk through his shield and out-DPS him.
Eurythmics
Widow, Hanzo, Junkrat, Pharah (at range/peeking corner), basically anyone who's capable of outranging him.
HolyCringeLordBatman
My only complaint is he doesn't bloom enough at range. I still kill him plenty a pharah, just wish he wasn't so pinpoint.
ShrubNinja
His damage output is substantially lower at longer ranges. You can't just stand where he can see you and shoot at him though.
ShrubNinja
You peek out from behind cover and blast him a couple times, distract him with a tank, flank him, things like that.
ThaddeusHamlet
Honestly, I'd rather get Battleborn. I'm not going to pay full price for half a game.
ThaddeusHamlet
If it was a gift I would be equally happy with either though.
Moofinmahn
WAIT IS NO MAN'S SKY OUT?
harles2000
not yet...
Vkro
It got delayed :...(
SecretlyThreeDucksInAManSuit
Oh well, better they get it right than rush to the finish line and launch it half baked.
MrWeatherman
#10 is too real
Chokeonmyfeces
After 300+ games Ive had one game with more than one sniper. People are, as usual, over exaggerating.
Sokonomi
My entire team off galavanting in alleyways having a deathmatch instead of helping me move the fucking cart.. Every fucking time.
ninja922
Bastion salt is the best salt
buisnessenderman
I got a 4 man, no assist obj. Ult as mei the other day. POTG went to a bastion on the cart who held left click and didn't move the camera.
SteveMND
if it makes you feel better, pure damage is the 'fallback default' for choosing a PotG. Which means if you see one like that, it means 1/2
SteveMND
2/2 ... that the game literally could not find anything it considered a better move according to the current metrics it follows.
HolyCringeLordBatman
I hope the play of the game gets tuned away from "hur durr left click".
DevCon96
Haven't followed along with how overwatch gameplay goes down, but why all the hate towards Bastion?
Schex44
I think they are going to nerf him he can be countered but he has so much damage and so many rounds
saturdaysareforclichememes
Originally he had a shield when in turret mode and could only turn 180° degrees.
YokanCakes
Turret that goes brrrrt at spawn and go boom boom at spawn isn't very fun for the enemy team
DevCon96
Fair enough
Kangarou
All other character DPS: 60-150 per second at optimum range, crit modifiable. Bastion DPS: 525 per second at optimum range, crit modifiable
SamMcKenzie
I love killing Winston in literally 1.5 seconds.
iDrinkDrano
People don't know how to counter him, so they die and go online and bitch about it
FallenTurtles
He can go back and forth, quite quickly, from turret to mobile, and his only other ability is a pretty fast self-heal. A bit tough to beat.
Sasqualogist
Genji, widowmaker, pharah, junkrat, and tracer can defeat him at range, then roadhog, dva, tracer, genji. mccree own him up close.
TheRealArmor
And even from mobile to turret he can kill you if you're already shooting him. Lol
Junktrunkjunkie
I tend to counter him with D.va just fine. so long as he's not being guarded by Reinhardt
Kandy9
I have a hard time countering him with d.va, which is weird because I'm very effective with her against any other character...
Junktrunkjunkie
It's all about timing and distance. You can block nearly a full 200 rounds from him but you've got to close the distance before it wears 1/2
Junktrunkjunkie
2/2 out. Then you can dance around him and shoot him up while he reloads.
VodkaReindeer
He is very effective if your team has no one who is good at Overwatch. He is terrible if you do.
1859561267459082167361249865
He can actually still be good if played by someone competent. IE ambushing and flanking tactics
RedClamz
Lots of damaged sealed out by bastion, but he's easy to kill, you just need to know how to play against one
morphire
Mostly because people are bad at the game. He outputs lots of damage, but can be countered if you know what you're doing.
SumoSGazer
Mmm, Zarya gives him a good ol' big fuzzy Siberian bear hug.
koalatyassurance
Tracer, Reaper, Roadhogs hook, and especially Genji all counter Bastion really well. Most people are just to stupid and run into his bullets
CheddarDreams
A tracer attaching a bomb to him does the job nicely
gamblingpoet
Nothing better than dashing into a Bastion/Reinhart barrier, sticking a bomb, and watching them go boom.
morphire
Exactly, there are some easy ways to take him down, but people just charge in front of him and hope they kill him before he does them
morphire
Spoiler: they don't.
ExperimentKraj
See, I hear this argument all the time, and it's so backwards. The solution to a strategy that distorts low-level play isn't to tell [1]
ExperimentKraj
people that they should just gain skill until it stops being frustrating. Doesn't work that way. What they need is to find a way to nerf [2]
ExperimentKraj
Bastion that has a large effect on the way he dominates low-level play but doesn't impact his limited role in higher-level play. There [3]
ExperimentKraj
are always going to be a massive number of games of Overwatch happening between teams of new and casual players, and if the logic [4]
1859561267459082167361249865
He's already been nerfed and even if you just barely know how to play you can easily kill him with deflect or ranged bombs
ExperimentKraj
Considering Genji's Deflect is a non-easy skill shot and doesn't have a long duration, you need to know how to play more than "barely".
kong210
Basically a playable turret
Abattage
Mostly he is played as a 1 trick pony that the game rewards because people love feeding him kills.
f5kt
Bastion has extreme damage output and is easy to use. He can be countered but is frustrating for low skill/experience players to deal with.
CrazyGuyOnABike
because they have literally no fucking idea how to choose reaper and kill him. It's so easy.
RedWingsofSteel
Honestly, turret mode has way too many bullets. More reload time would be a good direction to go for balance.
infernopg
he is weak at high levels, so this change would make him useless there. He is a noobstomper. That problem has existed since early beta tbh
gamblingpoet
The whole "point and click adventure" joke sums it up. Really accurate, even from a distance, very fast attack speed, high damage.
McFisticuffs
Just about every character is pretty accurate at a distance though.
Kirkules113
Have you tried long range tracer
shalmdi
People haven't quite figured the game out yet, and he's easy to play. Give it time. You can learn to deal with him.
sgtcoffman
My friend plays as Mercy and boosts my damage as Widowmaker. Takes 2 shots at maximum power to kill him. Not too terrible honestly.
ExperimentKraj
I dispute that the problem will be solved by people "figuring out the game". There will always be games happening between new players, [1]
ExperimentKraj
and Bastion is going to be dominant in those games until he's fixed. There are ways to nerf him that won't impact his limited role in [2]
ExperimentKraj
high-level level play but will keep him from absolutely devouring teams of brand-new players. [fin]
thefavs
McCory In The House, every weekday at high noon.
BrownieInc
Countering bastion is really easy honestly...Genji deflect..most bastion players are trigger happy so its kinda funny to watch them die.
morphire
Deflect, Tracer bomb, Widowmaker, Hanzo, honestly just don't run into his bullets and you're fine.
CrazyGuyOnABike
just go reaper and port in and fuck shit up.
VesselOfHate
if you can get LOS on a good teleport point without him seeing you. Personally I have trouble with this.
CrazyGuyOnABike
It doesn't really matter if he can see you after you port... you're close enough to walk through the shield.
jeffreybaratheon
"My team could definitely use a third Widowmaker" killed me. So true.
Reaperman64
Last time this happened the other three switched to widow too. Guess who was the salty 3?
MulliganStew
Tried out 5/6 Winston. It was bananas
sonoshitthereiwas
5 Bastions + 1 Mercy almost had me rage-quit.
Ssssssssssss
Or a fourth Hanzo.
IDontKnowWhatToUseAsMyUsernameSoJustImagineItsSomethingFunny
Played a game once with 6 fucking Torbjörn's... I will give it to them... the payload didn't move far. http://imgur.com/60kTgnE
TardIsMyRoleModel
I played a game where my team was five torbjorn and a widow maker on defense. They couldn't even take the first point.
TheRedWookiee
It's called the dwarf fortress spread the word!
potatotheloaf
No healers; no one cares. One healer; still, no one cares.
maliciousGman
The other night, we played 5 Winstons and 1 Lucio on offense. Won the round in under 3 min. On defenses, we used 5 Junkrats. Not as good.
PETTdavids
Stacking up on tanks isn't bad. Stacking up on people that rely on tanks while not having tanks sucks.
GhostTigre
6 hanzos last night. Payload didnt get far but the amount of ryu waka gofuckyourselves made it hilarious
CrunkArt
I find myself saying "Oh look, two Widowmakers" all too often. Then a Hanzo shows up and I continue to be sad.
GeneralSturgeonWarning
Are they basically like an ADC in league?
jeffreybaratheon
And the game even says right there "too many snipers"!
sgtcoffman
What's sad is that I will pick Widowmaker first and someone else will choose her and I have to change because i'm not an asshat.
SendMeYourGenitals
The amount of times i've looked at my team and switched to mercy. Yesterday i had 2 junkrats, 2 Widows and 2 Reapers >.>
DrWibbler
Struggles of having no friends to play with. I feel you :/
sgtcoffman
What has bugged me is running into lobbies with all 1 character. 1 game all soldier 76's, another with all Roadhogs. annoyingly, it worked.
MewMeowMow
It's because they both have a healing ability to sustain themself.
Mattman310
Once dropped out of a match because a guy on team chat screamed, "We're all soldiers now!" and everyone was Soldier 76.
Reaperman64
It's fun when it's once in awhile. Had a team leap in as 6 monkeys. Interesting game.
Cazio
I love playing Zenyatta, because I basically never have to worry about there being a duplicate. He doesn't get nearly enough appreciation.
jeffreybaratheon
What's weird is he gets played an absurd amount in training vs AI but never outside of that.
rubyrubay
That fucking discord orb is the bane of my existence.
itiscalledsource
Problem is he gets 1 shot by literally anybody
StanislausKatczincky
Zenyata is fucking amazing, I'm often able to kill tanks since I have that discord orb and charge shot, also makes for a great anti-bastion.
FilthyRedmond
My favorite part of this game is when I'm the only competent person on my team.
Dominian
So, no reason to switch from Battleborn.
Hullaballoonatic
Play road hog. 5 gold medals all day erry day
ImTooWhiteForThis
Match yesterday, I pushed the objective back 8m by myself with mei, had a 7 streak. Blocked a dva bomb with a wall, was wrecking (1/2)
ImTooWhiteForThis
Their world. Then 3 of them picked widow maker and killed me. In the time it took me to spawn, they enemy pushed it back and won -__- (2/2)
BritishBatman
why yes entire team, we have 30 seconds left and only a few feet to push the payload, let's all attack the other team nowhere near it!
FilthyRedmond
Or when it's overtime and it's running out yet no one goes near the payload
morphire
My favourite part is when everyone on the team has this exact same thought.
sneef
Then you look at your medals and you are Lucio or Reinhardt with 4 gold medals.....
mexicanstig
Last man in has to heal... or i guess im switching to L ucio, cause i suck at healing... and this is the best you guys are gonna get.
jeffreybaratheon
My thing is usually look, I can either be a terrible Mercy or a good Pharah. Which one will actually be more helpful?
CanadianThemedName
I'd rather a good pharah than a bad mercy.
mexicanstig
Oh look... we won... barely... with my shitty heals... i hate you people
ProfessionalDragonHumper
Lucio is hands down the best support right now.
Greypuppy
And everyone is voting for the shitty McCree who got QOTG with 2 kills then fanned another to death.
mexicanstig
I get called salty for pointing out potg doesn't mean shit if yer team loses.
Greypuppy
I often want to call out "literally no one is surprised" every time it's a Bastion or Tor play. But as a Reaper, I'm just plain salty.
NightDany
something tells me, you are not the only competent person on your team...
WhatzitTooya
I predict half of the people think they are the only competent player here.
punderbread
In those situations I just focus on pulling off good plays for myself. I can still have a good time even if my team loses.
angrywhitedoge
in this case i take junkrat and can atleast damage multiple opponents
wtwvi
What if you think this but vice-versa?
Spanked84
I think everyone believes that. I'm going to avoid this game cause I'm pretty sure I'll get yelled at for playing 'wrong'.
CanadianThemedName
Eh, there's a block option, and if you enjoy the type of game get it. Ignore salty trash talkers.
jcraig919
God help you if you are the only competent person and the healer... RIP in peace.
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ShrubNinja
It's a meme to say it like that. He knows what he's doing, haha.
v6sonoma
Yup. At that point I just change out and leave them to die.
CorporalAlyss
My life as a Mercy main :(
Cabbudge
You and me both ;_;
cruxiskira
Can we start a club? Or a cult? I'd be good with either.
CorporalAlyss
Clubs are overrated, cults are the 'in' right now. We can call it the Clerics Curing Chaos.
Kaineg
Mercy is my fav too but if you're not going to swap when you're team is lacking. You're as bad as people that "main" Widow on attack.
CorporalAlyss
Well of course I switch, that's how the game works. I just like Mercy as my go-to, usually I'm the healer, but when people on my team suck..
Kaineg
Symettra is my fav support for a sucky team.
hongkongkingkongpingpongdingdonggonewrong
I was playing healer on attack payload and my team deserted the payload and basically kept complaining to me that I wasn't anywhere else.
hongkongkingkongpingpongdingdonggonewrong
I was on the ducking payload doing what they couldn't do. Ended up getting an objective time of 4:40 and I died twice. We won.
jcraig919
Nice
Volt1ighter
The "crawl under the payload for cover and heal anyone who comes close enough" tactic is great when you're support
DrCaticus
Tfw your mercy and the only person pushing the payload
leafspring
Alright, let me heal you up real qui...or you could just dash out again with 10% health and get immediately killed, that works, too.
jcraig919
Or even better, when that lone wolf player is begging for heals. Sorry, I'm not zip-zoopin' over there to heal you.
TheDrunkChicken
Dat feel when you're leading for elims as support
Volt1ighter
Switch out. At that point the hp you add to your team is obviously not effective, might as well try to do damage or cap points
jcraig919
Yup. I normally switch to Soldier 76 or Roadhog so that way I can at least heal myself.
kabikaz
I switch to Zarya. I have turned around several games as her. For she is strong like ox-bear, and will carry you weaklings to victory.
jcraig919
Haha. I've never really played with her. So I would have no clue on what to do.
DiabloD3
Which is weird, because in TF2 I've been the only competent guy on the team, and I played the medic, and we consistently one
DiabloD3
Thx Android.
MrPink1
"We don't need 3 tanks"- me. "Shut up junkrat, we need three tanks because of low team damage, you're doing no damage" I had 16000 damage at
x3nyo
I had a genji rage at me for not rushing in with my alt as reaper to try and kill a bastion.
MrPink1
Time...
TheDrunkChicken
'Yes...yes I will vote myself MVP'
sonoshitthereiwas
I try to vote healer if they make the list, because half the time they get 0 credit.
MakeItBackAlright
True despair is just not voting because everyone was awful and no one deserves anything and life is meaningless
Greypuppy
"I ain't voting for you fucks, and I sure as fuck ain't voting for their Roadhog."
0Lambda0
If people could stop comparing battleborn and overwatch, that'd be great.
Kangarou
Two class-based RPG team FPSs. Yes, one has MOBA elements, but that doesn't clearly separate them enough
Aintfraid
One is team fortress 3, One is Smite with guns, they're pretty damn different.
Isweartogodthecatmademedoit
Isn't it a better move to compare Overwatch and Paladins?
IhavenoanusandImustpoop
You can blame the Battleborn social media team too. https://twitter.com/playoverwatch/status/707010249455067137
jenmalove
Well we found the person who got Battleborn instead of Overwatch ;)
Dominian
I only got Battleborn and I compare them. They're both good, but players are stupid, so I guess they'll both end up like LOL or DOTA:
0Lambda0
I own both, I enjoy both very much.
CaptainMorganTheFreeman
Battlestillborn*
Jgerladpinsk
They're in the same genre, and they came out at a similar time, it was bound to happen
HolyCringeLordBatman
Overwatch. Is. Not. A. Fucking. Moba
Jgerladpinsk
It doesn't matter if it is or not they're both hero based first person shooters, meaning they're similar enough to compare.
morphire
They are both first person games, the end. One is a MOBA, one is a team shooter. It's like saying Diablo and DOTA are the same.
Valondra
Not really.
morphire
A good, well thought-out response.
Valondra
I gave a more elaborate response elsewhere. Message me if you want a discussion. 140 chars doesn't do it justice.
honkaholic
Battleborn is a MOBA, Overwatch is not
FallenTurtles
What components of a MOBA does Battleborn have that Overwatch does not? The in-level upgrades?
krokoschoko
PVE, leveling, creeps, tug of war, skill trees.....
TheTexasLefty
pve elements, in game level ups and upgrades, resource collection, time to kill, a recall button. Overwatch is tf2 for the new decade, and/2
TheTexasLefty
that isn't a criticism, tf2 was dated and overwatch expands and improve many of the themes. It's an fps, and great one, but not a moba.
Makimakithefirst
The pve elements
Greypuppy
Side note, I would love a PVE mode for Overwatch. Like a hold-the-line 6v500 bot wave thing. It fits the story. Basically gimme MVM.
HavocJester
Overwatch is absolutely a multiplayer online battle arena
porrages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplayer_online_battle_arena
Dominian
It's a bullshit term invented by Riot. It used to be called "funmap" or "gay warcraft without army or building a base"
Imbradpitt
Also both FPS, also similar cartooney graphics/art style,
MrScud
They're hero based fps games and that's it. Nothing else to compare them
porrages
Look, we all know what type of game MOBA refers to. With your logic, any game with a story/protagonist is technically a "role playing game"
Kserwin
Clearly you don't know what that term means. Don't read the literal words.
HavocJester
Clearly you don't know what words mean :) is it multiplayer? Online? Battling? In an arena??? (:
hayllyn
Idk why you're getting downvoted? Sorry dude.
ChimneyImps
Literally, that would be true. However, MOBA is meant to mean the same thing as "Dota Clone." The person who came up with the term didn't re
ChimneyImps
alize that "Multiplayer Online Battle Arena" describes the majority of online PvP games.
FallenTurtles
When will Winston be good?
ZaeithlynV
He's used more as a disrupter then a tank. Jump in fuck shit up jump out and heal.
MoroseMoose6006
He is quite good i assure you, just not as multi functional as some other heroes
HolyCringeLordBatman
Pros seem to like him a lot as is.
BurritoSupr3me
Winston is already good?
FallenTurtles
How? He's so huge so he just attracts damage from every angle. His shields don't last for any time at all in the thick of a fight, and ...
FallenTurtles
his two primary sources of non-ultimate damage are weak. The electric gun is great is people group up I guess. HOW DO I BE GOOD WITH HIM???
FallenTurtles
That was awesome. Three different commenters but it all came across like it was from one author. All right I'll give him some more tries.
lurkerandproud
He's great for keeping points. group up with team, leap in and place shield and then keep moving with him (he has great mobility)
lurkerandproud
When on low health pop your ult and get a free full heal allowing you to tank more. He's not great for 1 on 1s but great for staying alive
Abattage
Kill snipers and flankers. Avoid good shotgun players and McCree. Know when to jump in to apply pressure and more importantly jump out.
Conveyer
Jump to backline, kill snipers and supports, drop shield until you can jump out. Or jump to crowd, ult everyone.
FartedWhileMakingUpName
^^^ He's tanky enough to kill the 150-250hp champs before they kill him. His main attack is weak but good there or against groups.
FallenTurtles
His ult has substantial knocback. Do you chase down the enemies for the kill, or knock them back and then let your team finish them off?
Cadpig
Find a lone player and destroy them. He has high damage output and decent defense for one on one fights
TheTexasLefty
in pro play it is common that one winston on your team is eh, but having 2 greatly increases their value.
MakeItBackAlright
Also he is great for making or breaking bottlenecks- go deep with your big health, drop a shield, the rest can burst through
MakeItBackAlright
He's also good for drawing fire away from the team, the other tank job. He's definitely not great on his own though.
Abattage
He will never be an amazing hero because of how easy he is to use.
HolyCringeLordBatman
The scene is still young, but the pros disagree with you.
LittleTinyFluffyBunny
Your username really does suit you.
IAmTheOneWhoMocks
Easy to use isn't a bad thing.
Abattage
It quickly becomes a balance issue if a character is easy to use plus really strong. Hence why Winston will never be an amazing hero.
IAmTheOneWhoMocks
So you're saying that winston is massively overpowered and requires no skill to use and therefor he's crap?
CenturianImgurian
No, he's saying that they'll never make an easy AND overpowered character, because everybody would use it. Thus, Winston'll never be made OP