Jul 24, 2016 12:27 PM
HarrySeldon
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impayshunz
Yeah, one actually STOLE gigabytes of highly classified documents and is now living is Russia. Really can't top that.
Fwords
Mishandling=stealing, tipsy=drunk, fender dent=car totaled. We have to point out our politicians errors, but try not lying when you do it.
traevbru
Guess who didn't commit a felony. Patreus was more than lucky to get off with probation.
hardytardigrade
Not the same thing at all, but hey, since when did that stop DANK MEMES
WindyCityMatt
It's almost as if the three cases are all very different! Weird!
MagmaFalcon55
The emails were not classified when they were sent, they got classified later on
jigglebilly
NSAgent
0 of these people have been convicted of a felony.
xrufus7x
Username checks out.
Begotten
the DOJ would have to prosecute a ton of high level government officials in connection if they took on hillary. that's why it went nowhere.
WedsBunneh
Get your facts straight, you wanker.
DocNoggin
If you pass along half truths long enough, they become true... Keep at whack jobs
ArcaneConjecture
Why does @OP lie and say "felony"? It was a misdemeanor...and only if her server was COMPLETELY UNSECURED, which it wasn't. Why the lies?
ZeroX54321
Where's all the hate for Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell doing the same exact thing that Clinton did?
ressos
Hillary didn't leak anything and was intensely scrutinized. She has done bad stuff, but the emails are not one of them!
RepaidRapidDave
None of these are comparable situations.
Hatrax
Hillary Clinton did no such thing and has been cleared. Let it go, Mr. O'Reilly.
False, the FBI has recommended no charges however she can still be indicted. Also they said if it were anyone else there would be charges.
JT1984
Better than Trump.
Idownvotegunnuts
This has been reposted from Facebook like 20 times, it is still not true in any way and is getting really fucking old.
Glumerlink
i've come to realize imgurians are just retarded, these are likely the same people who think Bernie and Johnson are equivalent choices
ToastyPotato
Amen. TFW you realize imgur is no better than random FB feeds/comments sections. FeelsBadMan
tomkingkong
Yaaay misinformation!!! Always solves our problems
myusernameisfrankdrebin
This again?
crizzzles
You are comparing apples and fucking tires. These people's actions are not the same and it is ridiculous to compare them in this way.
LoudAngryJerk
still better than trump
crookedrook
I expected her to get off. I didn't expect so many would defend her obvious law breaking. Go figure....
HeyDontBeADick
Yeah it's so weirdly in the open
Rekkor
It's almost like people form political opinions off of Facebook info graphics than actually investigating issues for themselves
Like20Ninjas
Right because what Edward Snowden did was worse than Julian Assange...
BlueStringsAttached
David Petraeus maliciously and deliberately compromised classified info. That is not what Clinton did.
TheStealthHippopotamus
Petraeus let out a couple of drops of water, Clinton opened the flood gates. When does actual damage factor into the equation?
That's horseshit. He actively passed on classified info.
TexanSailor
At her level using an unclassified means of communication for sensitive material is absolutely deliberately compromising information.
How? That is not the definition of intent. You're still talking about neglect, if anything.
If I did the exact same thing it would be intently mishandling sensitive information, which is absolutely against the law
cptkipard
Deliberate vs negligent is murder vs manslaughter when it comes to unlawful killing. What's the analogy here?
Mbears
We have different definitions of what deliberate means. Clinton knew she was breaking the law and told her staff never to talk about it.
So you're using a speqcial definition so you can indict Clinton? That's rich.
biolologist
You don't actually know what Petraeus did, do you?
SquirtleSquad420
And if Clinton was indited it would be a misdemeanor charge.
JamBarn
No, it would be a felony because it's an issue of federal law.
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/crimes-felonies-misdemeanors-infractions-classification-33814.html
Felony doesn't mean federal law, it's a degree of severity of the offense.
EverydayIdleness
Guess which one is swimming in money and political influence.
MildlyShockedSirPatrickStewart
Snowden?
RufusTheAardvark
All three! Trick question!
Patraeus?
JoinTheLiving
http://imgur.com/mDzcPnA
MorganFreemanEatingBeans
Spongebob squarepants
That would be Patreus. He repeatedly shared classified information with his biographer/mistress and lied about it. Now super rich and loved.
In his car, it seems like the top of the military is an old boys club - I read an article about the expenses and it's a lavish life up there
*case
bouron
I have a 33% chance of getting this right.....who is.....Edward Clinton?
Starwars2thewrathofhan
Was that her name before the operation?
Phillary
nrobertson12321
Oh sorry, the answer we were looking for was... Edward Norton
yancypants
So much false equivalency. So much butt hurt.
She didn't steal classified material. WTF?
MetalJesus
This is another "Snowden did a good thing and got screwed for it" post.
[deleted]
He's also a liar and a thief.
MorgothTheDemonLordFormerlyKnownAsMelkor
She exposed classified material to people not cleared to see it.
MrBananaBeak
Again, not stealing.
That isn't the same thing, even if it were demonstrated to be true.
WilderThing
No
MeowWoof
Yes, but after the witch hunt started. Her lawyers sorted through all her emails to filter out private ones.
No, the issue was not with who the emails were sent to but the server they were on. It's security could have been hacked.
QuietlyJudgingYou
it's almost as if different factual circumstances warrant different results
kuradag
maybe the point is: all mishandled sensitive data (intentions aside), and the less powerful got in trouble and she gets to run for president
seamusgarx
Yeah, the difference means - it depends who does actions. If your guy is doing it - then it's good, if other does it- he's a criminal.
victorged
Or that intentional and malicious exposure of data to potentially hostile third parties is different than removing it to an outside server.
Well, this is why you deserve whoever wins, Snowden is a criminal and criminal is presidential candidate. Even trump is better, and I say
It as an European who frequently visit US.
In no way would I endorse Secretary Clinton - but ignoring the differences between her scandal, Mr. Snowden's, and Gen. Patreus is dishonest
I KNOW. Funny how nature do that.
CanadianCanadianCanadian1
The shillaries would defend her if she was caught eating babies. "Well ya know, it's her baby so she can do whatever she wants with it"
TheThingNoNotThatOne
I've never seen an intelligent comment include the word "Shillary"
It's about on par with people who use the word "libtard".
Niddhogg
Right? I'm not really a fan of Hillary, and I applaud Snowden's work, but he knowingly distributed sensitive information to externals, 1/
Patraeus did the same except it was to the woman he was cheating on with, and Hillary stored documents on a private server supposedly 2/
accessible only by her that were in most cases already declassified and only in some cases still classified. VERY different situations.
barnwolf
At the very least, Clinton released far less classified information than Patraeus, and an infinitesimal amount compared to Snowden.
idownvotekittens
True, but if a low level analyst in the military did the same thing, that person would be in Leavenworth.
oddthought
Maybe, but the secretary of state can do lots of things that a low level analyst isn't allowed to.
nidpants
There's a huge difference in norms between the military and civil justice systems. Military justice doesn't have the Bill of Rights, for one
chompychompchomp
thank you
BillBarian
Have you been awarded a security clearance and have you been permitted access to classified information?
When I was in the military, yes.
Then you also know about the Records Act, which she also violated. 2 major violations, which she lied about. Anyone else in gov't is jailed
Even if that were true (its not), we're talking about the comparison between Petreaus, Snowden, and Clinton.
Which suggests that all three individuals committed the same crime, and should, therefore, receive the same punishment
Khaotix11
Yes but she's not even getting a punishment and is running for presidency.
Not SAME punishment. Comparable acts should merit comparable consequences. You and I would have gone to jail. You know that to be true.
My original point was that what Petreaus did was different from what Snowden did, both of which was different from Clinton did.
impayshunz
Yeah, one actually STOLE gigabytes of highly classified documents and is now living is Russia. Really can't top that.
Fwords
Mishandling=stealing, tipsy=drunk, fender dent=car totaled. We have to point out our politicians errors, but try not lying when you do it.
traevbru
Guess who didn't commit a felony. Patreus was more than lucky to get off with probation.
hardytardigrade
Not the same thing at all, but hey, since when did that stop DANK MEMES
WindyCityMatt
It's almost as if the three cases are all very different! Weird!
MagmaFalcon55
The emails were not classified when they were sent, they got classified later on
jigglebilly
NSAgent
0 of these people have been convicted of a felony.
xrufus7x
Username checks out.
Begotten
the DOJ would have to prosecute a ton of high level government officials in connection if they took on hillary. that's why it went nowhere.
WedsBunneh
Get your facts straight, you wanker.
DocNoggin
If you pass along half truths long enough, they become true... Keep at whack jobs
ArcaneConjecture
Why does @OP lie and say "felony"? It was a misdemeanor...and only if her server was COMPLETELY UNSECURED, which it wasn't. Why the lies?
ZeroX54321
Where's all the hate for Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell doing the same exact thing that Clinton did?
ressos
Hillary didn't leak anything and was intensely scrutinized. She has done bad stuff, but the emails are not one of them!
RepaidRapidDave
None of these are comparable situations.
Hatrax
Hillary Clinton did no such thing and has been cleared. Let it go, Mr. O'Reilly.
jigglebilly
False, the FBI has recommended no charges however she can still be indicted. Also they said if it were anyone else there would be charges.
JT1984
Better than Trump.
Idownvotegunnuts
This has been reposted from Facebook like 20 times, it is still not true in any way and is getting really fucking old.
Glumerlink
i've come to realize imgurians are just retarded, these are likely the same people who think Bernie and Johnson are equivalent choices
ToastyPotato
Amen. TFW you realize imgur is no better than random FB feeds/comments sections. FeelsBadMan
tomkingkong
Yaaay misinformation!!! Always solves our problems
myusernameisfrankdrebin
This again?
crizzzles
You are comparing apples and fucking tires. These people's actions are not the same and it is ridiculous to compare them in this way.
LoudAngryJerk
still better than trump
crookedrook
I expected her to get off. I didn't expect so many would defend her obvious law breaking. Go figure....
HeyDontBeADick
Yeah it's so weirdly in the open
Rekkor
It's almost like people form political opinions off of Facebook info graphics than actually investigating issues for themselves
Like20Ninjas
Right because what Edward Snowden did was worse than Julian Assange...
BlueStringsAttached
David Petraeus maliciously and deliberately compromised classified info. That is not what Clinton did.
TheStealthHippopotamus
Petraeus let out a couple of drops of water, Clinton opened the flood gates. When does actual damage factor into the equation?
BlueStringsAttached
That's horseshit. He actively passed on classified info.
TexanSailor
At her level using an unclassified means of communication for sensitive material is absolutely deliberately compromising information.
BlueStringsAttached
How? That is not the definition of intent. You're still talking about neglect, if anything.
TexanSailor
If I did the exact same thing it would be intently mishandling sensitive information, which is absolutely against the law
cptkipard
Deliberate vs negligent is murder vs manslaughter when it comes to unlawful killing. What's the analogy here?
Mbears
We have different definitions of what deliberate means. Clinton knew she was breaking the law and told her staff never to talk about it.
BlueStringsAttached
So you're using a speqcial definition so you can indict Clinton? That's rich.
biolologist
You don't actually know what Petraeus did, do you?
SquirtleSquad420
And if Clinton was indited it would be a misdemeanor charge.
JamBarn
No, it would be a felony because it's an issue of federal law.
SquirtleSquad420
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/crimes-felonies-misdemeanors-infractions-classification-33814.html
SquirtleSquad420
Felony doesn't mean federal law, it's a degree of severity of the offense.
EverydayIdleness
Guess which one is swimming in money and political influence.
MildlyShockedSirPatrickStewart
Snowden?
RufusTheAardvark
All three! Trick question!
xrufus7x
Patraeus?
JoinTheLiving
http://imgur.com/mDzcPnA
MorganFreemanEatingBeans
Spongebob squarepants
traevbru
That would be Patreus. He repeatedly shared classified information with his biographer/mistress and lied about it. Now super rich and loved.
HeyDontBeADick
In his car, it seems like the top of the military is an old boys club - I read an article about the expenses and it's a lavish life up there
HeyDontBeADick
*case
bouron
I have a 33% chance of getting this right.....who is.....Edward Clinton?
Starwars2thewrathofhan
Was that her name before the operation?
bouron
Phillary
nrobertson12321
Oh sorry, the answer we were looking for was... Edward Norton
bouron
bouron
yancypants
So much false equivalency. So much butt hurt.
BlueStringsAttached
She didn't steal classified material. WTF?
MetalJesus
This is another "Snowden did a good thing and got screwed for it" post.
[deleted]
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MetalJesus
He's also a liar and a thief.
MorgothTheDemonLordFormerlyKnownAsMelkor
She exposed classified material to people not cleared to see it.
MrBananaBeak
Again, not stealing.
BlueStringsAttached
That isn't the same thing, even if it were demonstrated to be true.
WilderThing
No
MeowWoof
Yes, but after the witch hunt started. Her lawyers sorted through all her emails to filter out private ones.
WilderThing
No, the issue was not with who the emails were sent to but the server they were on. It's security could have been hacked.
QuietlyJudgingYou
it's almost as if different factual circumstances warrant different results
kuradag
maybe the point is: all mishandled sensitive data (intentions aside), and the less powerful got in trouble and she gets to run for president
seamusgarx
Yeah, the difference means - it depends who does actions. If your guy is doing it - then it's good, if other does it- he's a criminal.
victorged
Or that intentional and malicious exposure of data to potentially hostile third parties is different than removing it to an outside server.
seamusgarx
Well, this is why you deserve whoever wins, Snowden is a criminal and criminal is presidential candidate. Even trump is better, and I say
seamusgarx
It as an European who frequently visit US.
victorged
In no way would I endorse Secretary Clinton - but ignoring the differences between her scandal, Mr. Snowden's, and Gen. Patreus is dishonest
BlueStringsAttached
I KNOW. Funny how nature do that.
CanadianCanadianCanadian1
The shillaries would defend her if she was caught eating babies. "Well ya know, it's her baby so she can do whatever she wants with it"
TheThingNoNotThatOne
I've never seen an intelligent comment include the word "Shillary"
MetalJesus
It's about on par with people who use the word "libtard".
Niddhogg
Right? I'm not really a fan of Hillary, and I applaud Snowden's work, but he knowingly distributed sensitive information to externals, 1/
Niddhogg
Patraeus did the same except it was to the woman he was cheating on with, and Hillary stored documents on a private server supposedly 2/
Niddhogg
accessible only by her that were in most cases already declassified and only in some cases still classified. VERY different situations.
barnwolf
At the very least, Clinton released far less classified information than Patraeus, and an infinitesimal amount compared to Snowden.
idownvotekittens
True, but if a low level analyst in the military did the same thing, that person would be in Leavenworth.
oddthought
Maybe, but the secretary of state can do lots of things that a low level analyst isn't allowed to.
nidpants
There's a huge difference in norms between the military and civil justice systems. Military justice doesn't have the Bill of Rights, for one
chompychompchomp
thank you
BillBarian
Have you been awarded a security clearance and have you been permitted access to classified information?
QuietlyJudgingYou
When I was in the military, yes.
BillBarian
Then you also know about the Records Act, which she also violated. 2 major violations, which she lied about. Anyone else in gov't is jailed
QuietlyJudgingYou
Even if that were true (its not), we're talking about the comparison between Petreaus, Snowden, and Clinton.
QuietlyJudgingYou
Which suggests that all three individuals committed the same crime, and should, therefore, receive the same punishment
Khaotix11
Yes but she's not even getting a punishment and is running for presidency.
BillBarian
Not SAME punishment. Comparable acts should merit comparable consequences. You and I would have gone to jail. You know that to be true.
QuietlyJudgingYou
My original point was that what Petreaus did was different from what Snowden did, both of which was different from Clinton did.