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#current_events #politics #police #wtf #progressive
1morebanforafreeshake
ATribeofAfricanNatives
Man, that footage is really sad, also very weird. He seems strung out but lucid the whole time then seems to calm down after being teased,
ATribeofAfricanNatives
Around the same time he starts saying they injected him with something. Then he dies 5hrs later in the ER? This seems really suspicious
Freyja33
I have absolutely no doubt that any legislation that passes will just give more money to cops, who will continue to have no accountability.
GlenL
This tweet kind of glosses over the fact that the body cam was released and the guy was coked out of his mind and acting extremely erratic
LincolnFox
Police are garbage at detaining people, tho it probably didn't help that cocaine and marijuana was found in the toxicology screening..
KawaiiInari
Fuck.The.Police
Sasurau
Fuck police officers. What you get when you have nine good cops toeing the line for one bad cop? Ten bad cops.
Sasurau
And I highly doubt it's one in every ten who are violent scumfucks.
notacobra
Fuck... Alright, so strap in because this'll be a long comment chain. Let me preface everything with a clear: if somebody is dead, the 1/?
notacobra
The cops fucked up monumentally and should be severely punished. There are few, if any, exceptions to this rule. Having established that 2/?
notacobra
Anderson was in an altered state of mind throughout the encounter. He was erratic and violent and attempted to flee when it was 3/?
notacobra
Revealed that he was under the influence of drugs/alcohol when he caused the accident for which he "sought help" 4/?
notacobra
He resisted arrest, fought back against police and was a danger to himself, the police and the public. ONCE AGAIN: The fact that 5/?
notacobra
He died as a result of police actions is despicable and shows an unforgivable lapse in police protocol. But to claim he was 6/?
PepperoniAndFingernailPizza
It's his fault for being black and thinking he could ask those sworn to protect and serve, to protect and serve him. /s
midatlanticride
You cannot go into cardiac arrest from a taser alone. He had drugs in his system and died 4 hour later. Come on, guys.
Xenosphor
This is misleading
Grenateh
But but but he didn’t comply snarf.
carlosramolete14
Nothing “George Floyd” about this situation. He was Altered Mental Status, they restrained him, got EMS and that was it. Still tragic
SeasonedCitizen
Congress? The GQP controlled House? They want cops to murder more unarmed, innocent black people.
lxix
He wasn't innocent of anything that day. Maybe you could read the story instead of injecting your own racially bias perspective on things?
bunchayahoos
He was drugged up, out of control, ignoring many reasonable requests, walking in traffic, possibly leaving the scene of an accident and …
bunchayahoos
resisting arrest. What should the cops have done? Wrestled with him for four hours?
Ghostwish
Maybe not taze people so much that their heart fails?
MattJeffery
He received a medical checkup minutes later. They would have found a heart condition.
Ghostwish
The heart condition was getting tazed for approximately 30 seconds you absolute waffle iron.
MattJeffery
This is the fourth time I'm reading "30 seconds taser". Is that from a script? This isn't a condition. Cardiac arrest or arrhythmia are.
Xedi22
For a start, not suck so much that someone is that terrified of them. That's the root cause here.
lxix
The root cause is to follow the fucking law - i.e not get all high, drive, attempt a carjacking and follow officer directions until ems 1/2
lxix
arrives - which was 1 minute after he was tazed. Stop making this a race issue - its not.
Xedi22
I didn't say anything about race, you did that, lol.
BigTex1
The dude was high as giraffe balls and asking the first cop that responded for help because “someone was trying to kill him”, then said he >
BigTex1
<“had a stunt”, before claiming to be thirsty then running out into traffic.
MeowMachine12
It's their FUCKING job to deal with people and not murder them.
lxix
They didn't murder him. They dealt with him appropriately.
AvidCookie
See the Youtube link for the bodycam material and tell how this situation was supposed to be handled?
LGooms
That second word is redundant.
shadoSpacePilot
What the fuck is going on in america? Seriously, what the actual fuck is going on?
NVGoddesscottage
I may have to get off Imgur. These are making me suicidal.
tinyCabbage
regardless of if he was on drugs, police forces in other civilized country are taught restraining method 4 drugged up ppl that doesn't hurt
tinyCabbage
them or the police, but in america, the first point of call is always excessive violence. A taser is deemed a lethal weapon, was what keenan
tinyCabbage
so violent, that it require the use of a lethal weapon?
bourbonandbaddecisions
Never, ever, fucking ever, ask the LAPD for help. Especially if your a minority.
reallynotmikepence
He didn't ask for help. He was fleeing the scene of an accident.
bourbonandbaddecisions
That’s not a good reason to taste the fuck out of someone.
reallynotmikepence
Fleeing is actually a very good reason to tase someone.
doctorwut02
Ah, clearly that justifies torturing him to death while he begs them to stop.
reallynotmikepence
They didn't torture him to death.
TheLastBootyBender
What do you call being teased for 30s straight? A warning?
reallynotmikepence
Well considering they are made to last that long
brainfreez3
Hows that boot taste?
reallynotmikepence
Ah yes the view of people who commit multiple felonies should be arrested is clearly boot licking.
Thelrishlnquistion
LokiBrotherofThor
Not really sure if glad garbage bags putting the black garbage bags with the white garbage bags with an appropriate place to put that ad lol
SoulTakerWasSupposedToBeMyUsernameButSomebodyStoleIT
Land of the free*
Sasurau
Welcome to the United Snakes
Land of the thief, home of the slave
Grand imperial guard where the dollar is sacred & power is God-Brother Ali
SoulTakerWasSupposedToBeMyUsernameButSomebodyStoleIT
*only applies to old, rich, Caucasian males
Ghostwish
*old, rich, xtian, Caucasian males keep it going...
lxix
Can we get the whole story straight? He was high on cocaine, had caused an accident, attempted to highjack an uber driver and ran into 1/2
lxix
road - officers tazed him after 10 mins of trying to calm him down - he was in hospital and died 5 hours later. He was a risk to the public
AintNothinButAPoopbutt
Cops aren't supposed to kill guilty people, either. That's what due process is for.
lxix
I'd argue that they didn't kill anyone here. /shrug
Ghostwish
None of that excuses tazing him for approximately 30 seconds straight. That is what killed him.
lxix
Maybe he should have stayed seated on the ground and engaged in conversation instead of radically running into moving traffic multiple times
Audasity
indeed. his crimes did not warrant a death sentence.
lxix
True, but they didn't go overboard here. If he didn't want to get tazed, he should have complied. He had multiple opportunities.
OliverOtter
Cocaine causes heart problems. The only study showing Tasers do was based on just 8 subjects, and written by a paid plaintiff's witness.
LoudBirb
He was definitely on something, but they also definitely tased him for waaaaay too long. He was already in the ground with 3 cops on him...
LoudBirb
When one of them decided to go on the tasing rampage. It felt... spiteful watching it. Especially with a cop on each arm and a knee on...
icanc4
Yeah, sometimes there really are two sides to the story
SimiKusoni
Tbf at the end there he got down for the single officer, seems they could have just cuffed him and cajoled him into a cruiser without the
lxix
The original responding officer was on a bike. There was no cruiser - and he got up and started to run into traffic again.
SimiKusoni
Yes and when the officer caught up with him he got down on his knees before being piled on and tazed, something which was likely completely
SimiKusoni
unnecessary. Outside of the US training for incident response also usually advises to remain by the subjects side at all times and keep them
SimiKusoni
need to pile on and taze him. Definitely wasn't well handled, even if it's not the extent that people are suggesting.
19ElJefe59
Police have gotten away with going overboard on violence forever. It is only recently, thanks to video evidence, that they are accountable.
lxix
If you watch the bodycam the cops literally didn't go overboard in this situation. Let's hold those that break the law be accountable too.
Quanze
I HATE when people try to spin stories like this one, because it ends up hurting the cases where there was legitimate malice and misconduct.
TheOtherGuy1
Yeah there are so many people just completely tuned out cause of the spin and agendas. Trying to bring accountability while tell half truth
unstabl3table360
Fuck violent cops, but have you seen the body cam footage tho?
heckingoodboi56
Yes, yes I have. Apparently resisting arrest is grounds for being murdered in the street. He was erratic and uncooperative, so you kill him?
MattJeffery
When in the video did they "murder him in the street"
heckingoodboi56
When they repeatedly tased him. In the street. Do you think he just had a heart attack at the same time the cops attacked him?
BigTex1
He was sitting up and responsive at the end of the body cam footage. Then (I think) passed at the hospital from heart failure.
heckingoodboi56
His "heart failure" was due to being tased repeatedly. He didn't pass out, he was killed by a taser. He died. He was murdered
BigTex1
I’m sure it didn’t help, but I’d wager the mixture of cocaine, cannabis, and the car accident is more than likely the primary factor.
darkdragonempress
Not really. Pot doesn’t effect the heart in a severe way. It’s a depressant. Cocaine is a stimulant but enough to cause heart failure 1
StarryNightsInCanada
I did a quick search. Someone mentioned heart failure due to drugs in his system.
heckingoodboi56
Really? So having drugs in your system is a death sentence? Lots of people take drugs and live. Police tasing you can stop your heart
StarryNightsInCanada
& lot of people take drugs & die. All I said is that drugs were in his system. If you watch the footage, he is high AF. Tasing didn’t help
GlenL
If you watched the video, why are you lying about him being murdered in the street?
heckingoodboi56
Cops chased him down and he died while he called out "they are killing me". What is your definition of murder?
GlenL
So when you get caught in a lie your response is to just lie more? It's kind of sad how pathetic that is
MattJeffery
You did not watch the video.
Galfronon
They forgot the part where he was a relative of a BLM founder. The cops had a motive.
Bystandr
They didnt realize till after he died, likely. Watching the various body cams, the victim has an accident and is tased multiple times trying
Bystandr
to flee. Doesnt make it better at all and just shouldnt happen that way to anyone regardless.
ZackWester
to be fair if I was in contact whit a US police I would also be looking for ways to get the Fuck out of there ASAP I do not trust them to
ZackWester
cuf me for no reason, and then shot me in the back 20 times, because why wouldb´t they they get a free paid vacation for it.
PTMdragon
nah. the worst part is they probably didnt know that. Just standard operating procedure.
MakeItBackAlright
Yes that would imply this was a one off
Kenbamazingbutprobablywontbe
Or terrorists groups have infiltrated the upper ranks of the police system like proud boys and openly wear patches.
CaldariBob
The "Oathkeepers" ARE the police. No complicated infiltration necessary!
Ghostwish
Yeah people seem to fail to understand that these terrorist factions formed OUT of our police force.
PTMdragon
you stupid? you think the cops started out as "good guys"? the whole institution incentivizes shithead behavior. no conspiracy required.
Kenbamazingbutprobablywontbe
No im aware. Im metis. And the rcmp were created to police indigenous people in canada. And by police i mean control.
PTMdragon
Well at least you don't have to feel lonely anyone else without a badge or a silver spoon up their ass get their own flavor of "protection".
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whatsisname
Do you think the cop on the motorcycle has a neural implant to know where everyone is like robo-cop? If you watch the bodycam video, it's
whatsisname
pretty unlikely the cop knew anything about the guy.
PubstarHero
That actually makes it worse.
Tumescentpie
All cops. And boy do I mean all cops. Are fucking bastards and gangsters. They are a mafia onto themselves.
unluckyandbored
This was a hit.
Willowknowsall
But the cop probably did not know that at all, they just treat all black people poorly no ulterior motives needed
reallynotmikepence
They forgot the part was he was high out of his mind and caused the accident.
ImAfraidYoureAllPsychosSoIMadeThisAccount
Source? Please don't cite faux.
WINfail223
Even if he was high and caused it, that isnt a capital offense.
reallynotmikepence
It's an offense that requires being arrested though.
WINfail223
Cool, they killed him. Thats not an arrest.
reallynotmikepence
No, they arrested him. His drugs killed him.
dontrike
Well shit, guess it's okay for cops to kill people for "causing incidents"
The701
Which part of the Constitution says that police have the right to execute people? Police in better countries don't constantly murder people.
LitchLitch
We have no way of knowing if he was high, he had traces of legal and illegal drugs in his system but how recent and how high is not clear 1/
MattJeffery
The initial police report says nothing about quantities. Assuming these are traces is just as wrong as assuming they are overdoses.
LitchLitch
If they don't specify quantity it was measured at trace levels.
LitchLitch
From the video I wouldnt be surprised to find out he was high, but he could also be reacting to being in a car accident and having to 2/
LitchLitch
talk to hostile cops, or he could have been having a medical issue, a hypoglycemic spike, a manic episode, a brain bleed, a medical rxn 3/
LitchLitch
or hell maybe he hit his head in the accident. 4/4
mrose50
They tasered him for 30sec straight then another 5 for good measure. ACAB and so are you. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64252337
reallynotmikepence
No the bad person was the guy who drove under the influence and tried to steal a car.
NairouTryyshokk
The flaw in your thinking is that "bad people need to die" was he high? Yes. We're they justified in detaining him? Yes. But even if he is
NairouTryyshokk
Found guilty, none of those warrants the use of excessive force that led to his death. He should have been cuffed, and placed in the back
Junktrunkjunkie
Right, so obviously death without a trial is the appropriate punishment. Extrajudicial killings don’t make cops bad people?
reallynotmikepence
How do you think the police should have handled it?
Sasurau
MapleSyrupMafia
And he deserves the death sentence for this? DUI is bad, but no one died and they straight up murdered him.
MattJeffery
How and when
beezzarro
I saw the footage and it really doesn't seem targeted. Just on-brand murderous incompetence from the LAPigD
MattJeffery
He died 4 and a half hours later while in the hospital, saying he had "cardiac arrest from excessive tasing" is a bit of a stretch.
GlenL
This is a generalization not specifically about this case, but electric shock can cause an arrythmia that kills hours to days later
GlenL
That being said, cocaine users usually aren't in great cardiovascular health to begin with
MattJeffery
And nobody noticed he had arrhythmia? Not the medics in the ambulance, and nobody in the hospital where he spent the next 4 hours?
MattJeffery
When literally the first thing they do is clip your finger to get a basic reading on your health, including heart rate?
GlenL
Like I said, it was a generalization and not about this specific case.
upsidedownyhead
His heart stopped. He is dead because of the actions of those cunt cops.
MattJeffery
Did you ask Dr. Facebook or is that from the actual autopsy report
upsidedownyhead
The article says cardiac arrest.
lxix
or the cocaine that was in his system and probably teh car accident he was in. He was a junkie that posed a risk to everyone on that road
TooRexyForMyShirt
Taalii
Any who stay after all this are choosing to be part of it.
doctorwut02
If they're not a rotten cop they're probably protecting one, so they're still a rotten cop.
heckingoodboi56
Cops call them bad apples... but then they protect the bad apples and fire anyone who testifies against bad apples.Then they remove pensions
my1rstlaptopwas34inchscreenup
no no no. ALL COPS because they're tools of the state to keep this bullshit system going
19ElJefe59
I guess I was a tool of the state when I was working as an educator for a public school.
my1rstlaptopwas34inchscreenup
i have much more respect for teachers.
Freyja33
Yes, all of them, don't equivocate
TooRexyForMyShirt
It's funny, I say "ACAB" and I get people saying "Not all!". So I say, "Okay, just the overwhelming majority of cops" and it's "no, ACAB".
CrazyforRAMU
There is no amount of right you can be that some motherfucker won't try to be righter than you, particularly on the internet.
19ElJefe59
You are coming across as neurotic.
Itootwithmyboot
The guy died of a coke heart attack. The video showed the cops being super professional. Stop knee jerk responding.
lceKing
I don’t know what’s professional about tazing a guy for about a minute while he was being held down by 4 officers
Lampmonster
These days if you don't yell "Die darky!" and start firing immediately they'll paint you as a saint I guess.
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
I watched the video. Show me the ONE part where he was ever a threat to anyone else? Go ahead. Name ONE second of the video.
MattJeffery
Is running into traffic not dangerous anymore? Did I switch into a parallel universe?
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
Note what I said: "a threat to anyone else"... Also, traffic was barely moving. Quit looking for excuses for cops to kill people.
JohnnySilverballs
"Super professional." How do those boots taste?
penzick
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/13/us/keenan-anderson-black-lives-matter-cousin-police-death/index.html
Baja2276
I agree. I am usually very critical of the police, but didn’t see them do anything wrong in the video. So I’ll join you in downvote hell.
BroadFjord
I watched the video, I won't argue that they were professional up until the point where they tased him for double the safe limit
BroadFjord
When with 4 cops present they should have been able to get him under control without resorting to potentially lethal methods
BroadFjord
And even "safe limit" is a misnomer, that's just the limit where the mortality is 0.3%, which is already too high to warrant such casual use
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
Especially when you consider that he NEVER ONCE IN THE VIDEO posed any threat to anyone.
BroadFjord
Seriously. He was agitated and disorganized and not paying attention, he made no attempt at violence
cbjfan
upfr0mhere
He was unarmed and non-violent before being restrained by 4 officers and tazed 4 times in 33 seconds "coke heart attack" my ass
penzick
We can believe that the coke contributed to his death without also relieving the police of their culpability.
NotQuiteThere
That's what I don't get with some of these folk. If he was on drugs, even more reason not to tazer a guy. It doesn't clean the cops hands.
penzick
There's a theory in law that 'you take your victim as you find them.' Meaning, if I have brittle bone disease, you try to snatch my purse &
penzick
my arm breaks, still your fault for breaking my arm. Doesn't matter it wouldn't happen to anyone else. Same should apply here.
vowofloudness
If you haven't seen the bodycam footage the LAPD released, please have a look. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVTYcbPX0GA
StarryNightsInCanada
He seems really paranoid. Eyes wide and looking around. Was the poor guy on something?
rednecklace
Cocaine and marijuana
MattJeffery
preliminary tests were positive on cocaine metabolites and cannabinoids
Forensickle
Cocaine metabolites can be resent for years depending on the tests, and marijuana up to a few weeks. He could have just partied last week
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
Oof. Perfect situation for an emergency response team rather than cops
midatlanticride
Honey, cops are an emergency response team. They were called to the scene of an accident. The guy was high on coke and driving and hit a car
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
I'm referring to unarmed response teams that exist in many cities. They are great for responding to people in crisis.
lxix
Tazers weren't pulled until he actively resisted arrest. He ignored instructions multiple times - including running into moving traffic.
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
I know. Point is that an unarmed response team could have deescalated the situation. The presence of armed cops is terrifying to alot of ppl
TrinDiesel
Wow that tweet is disingenuous. he didn't stop police for help and died 4 HOURS after the taze. Probably from whatever he was clearly taking
TrinDiesel
I do not think the use of force displayed was necessary, and the situation could have been handled better. But he was not tazed to death.
Grenateh
Bootlicking idiot. No one ever dies from taxing. They die after the tale. How weird. Much coincidence.
TheBestSarcasm
get this to top comment
yingjun
i can't watch any more of these murders, just can't.
meatbat1
Liar
ATribeofAfricanNatives
How do you die hours after being teased? He keeps saying they sedated him... Did they inject him with something? I hear cops have been given
ATribeofAfricanNatives
permission to do that in some regions
ItsCaptain0bvious
Ok, please watch the footage, this is not an "ACAB" moment. He seems coked off his head; he crashed with an old lady and was saying "they 1
looker42
Even if he was cooked up that is not an excuse for killing the man. Why should it EVER be okay for police to kill a man in the street?!
lxix
They didn't kill him on the street. He died like 5 hours later in hospital.
looker42
Copypasting from another comment: "Ok sure, dying in hospital hours later from injuries sustained during the arrest. Not better."
ItsCaptain0bvious
are trying to put stuff in my car, trying to frame me, they think I killed C Lo" etc. Running around in traffic like a headless chicken, 2
ItsCaptain0bvious
the first cop spoke to him in a nice, respectful manner trying to cool him down, but the guy was paranoid. If the toxicology report in the 3
ItsCaptain0bvious
end of the video didn't say that he was high on cocaine, I would guess that there might be a mental issue, but it seems that it was coke.
BearsDontCare
Which does not matter. As someone who dealt with these kinds of individuals, the fight is done when they are prone and cuffed.
pumly
I counted 9-10 cops and the guy was cuffed. If you can’t control an unarmed guy with 2-4 cops without a weapon you don’t know your job.
PoorBoyChevelle
Reminder, cops aren't supposed to kill guilty people either.
lxix
They didn't kill him. Stop spinning the story.
Sonicdahedgie
They Tazed him until he died
derel1cte
The cops shouldn’t kill anyone unless they are at risk of being killed themselves…. Still seems like acab to me
Piccolini
Watch the end of the video. 18m mark - toxicology results show cocaine use. He wasn't acting rationally. Seems like a reaction to the taser
jc311
Is the crime of using drugs or resisting the police the death penalt?
Sennox
In the US it apparently is
BearsDontCare
Being tased is awful dude. This guy was already pinned. This was not necessary
BearsDontCare
This is definitely an ACAB moment. As a former DO, absolutely no need for repeated tazing especially since he was already in cuffs
BearsDontCare
And in prone positioning. This is malicious negligence at best. I say that as someone who worked in detention facilities. This was improper
KangarooConcern
he wasnt in cuffs when they tazed him see 9:56 to 11 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVTYcbPX0GA and the other angles dont support u
BearsDontCare
Also, upvote for the correction. Much obliged Kangaroo
BearsDontCare
You are right, angle i was seeing made me believe his arms were behind the lower back. However, he was still controlled. No need to tase
BearsDontCare
And based off the other angles with his arms outstretched, he didnt have the mobility to escape. I still wouldnt repeatedly tase
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GlenL
You know that every result in the link you posted is the same video you're replying to, right?
vowofloudness
Please look again. It's literally the video LAPD released showing bodycam footage of Anderson's death.
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
They literally say his name in the video.
Scar1203
The darts didn't penetrate, that was just a drive stun. Drive stuns mostly just hurt and leave a small burn, I'd be surprised if any...
Scar1203
significant current passed through his heart in the first place. I've never been a huge fan of tasers personally, I really prefer OC...
Scar1203
as it's near zero risk and incapacites the subject for an extended period of time.
looker42
Seeing a disturbing amount of people acting like it's OK for police to kill a man in the street just because they apparently weren't trained
looker42
on how to safely restrain a person who isn't fully in control of themselves. Police need to be held to a higher standard
looker42
Not given license to kill if they can't handle the job.
MattJeffery
Why are you muddying a perfectly good argument with nonsense? They didn't kill him in the street. This isn't what happened.
alsoAzrael
You're right, they did injuries to him in the street, and he died from them later. That changes nothing, and adds nothing to the convo.
Forensickle
Isn't it just amazing how rarely this happens in the rest of the world...
looker42
Ok sure, dying in hospital hours later from injuries sustained during the arrest. Not better.
ravnicrasol
It's just... sad. The cop spent time trying to talk him down, warned him over and over, and the guy wasn't in a right state of mind.
Morganelefay
Even so, the way he approaches him, it's a terrible start. US cops need training in talking down people.
lxix
I think people need training in respecting officers and complying with simple requests like sit down, put your hands behind your back.
Potatokil1er
Between a cop and a civilian, one of them is paid and trained (supposedly) to deal with high stress situations. It’s their job to be calm.
lxix
Its not actually. Its their job to ensure public safety. Putting his and others lives in risk no longer makes him a civilian.
KansasComrade
Not complying shouldn’t be a death sentence
lxix
You're right, it shouldn't be but it is a consequence. Its not like he didn't have a choice, he had a choice and chose wrong.
Morganelefay
Tell me, why is the police violence rate so high in the US? Perhaps it's cause they're trained like utter shit?
Maitrify
Found the bootlicker.
lxix
Imagine someone having a different opinion than you and you resort to name calling. You're literally trump rn.