Is it too late Imgur?

Jul 8, 2015 1:35 PM

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"You're refusing to use superPAC’s, as I mentioned, your average campaign donor is paying an average of 42 dollars per donor. You want to raise 50 million dollars but with all due respect senator, how do you compete when senator Clinton is saying "we're going to raise two billion dollars.”

"Katie, that is an excellent question. We are just going to do the best we can. What you are really saying is, as I hear it, is “can any candidate who is not tied in with the billionaires, who is trying to represent working families, who is trying to deal with the tough issues facing our country, can they run for office anymore? And if what you are saying is true, and it may well be true, frankly let me be honest with you, it may in fact be too late. The billionaire might be too powerful. And maybe the only candidates who win get money from the billionaires. And if that's the case, you can form your judgement, but it doesn’t sound, to me, like the democracy that men and women fought and died to defend."

Source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpgJYNaIeqo

If you would've taken a shot every time Curic said "Hillary Clinton" you'd be dead of alcohol poisoning by the end of the video -_-'

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

I respect the way he acts as a politician, I just don't like his policy.

11 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 3

Socialists are not worthy of respect

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 21

I will help you sir

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

BERN DOWN 4 WHAT

11 years ago | Likes 52 Dislikes 5

Man, I could live a life of luxury with one million and people need 2 billion to drive around the country?

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Is it possible to spread the word without money? Can he be the first viral politician? I already heard more about him than I have Hillary.

11 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 2

Kennedy Won election by TV.. why not Bernie win by Internet? :)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I can't believe a politician is saying this shit live in front of the world. In my lifetime. I almost gave up hope for the rest of the world

11 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 8

Don't forget the part where he talks about not dissing other candidates!

11 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

Why? are you against forcing top 10 $ earning corps to actually pay taxes to your country? atm they pay NOTHING.

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

My fucking broke ass is giving that man some money today. Goddamnit.

11 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 5

My prediction: Clinton will get the nomination, but not before this magnificent bastard tears her a new one.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Hey, is anyone taking bets yet on whether Clinton will actually debate him? My money would be on "No way in hell."

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

After that she could choose which asshole to talk out of

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

well, if she needs a change of assholes now she can always hand Bill a script and threaten to cut off his intern supply.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We don't need a rich person in office, we need a smart person in office. This might be him.

11 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 6

I'm not running yet, gotta be 35.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

That's okay, I said we need a SMART person.. Jk jk haha

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

She was trying so hard to get him to talk badly about his opponents and he refused.

11 years ago | Likes 1051 Dislikes 9

She tried to get Ted Cruz to discredit the pope, rudely.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He's got a brilliant campaign going. It's not "Bernie vs Hillary" it's "the 1% vs democracy"

11 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 0

It really has become much easier to criticize the broken system than those who take advantage of it. I like this guy.

11 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 0

I've seen multiple interviews where they keep trying to make him bad mouth people, and he handles it so well every time.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I disagree with a lot of his viewpoints, but i like him as a person. Our country would be a better place with more politicians like him.

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Been saying that for a while. I don't agree with his politics, but he seems like a good, sincere person. I'd take him over Hillary any day.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What the actual fuck does Clinton need 2 billion FOR? Buy up all the ad-space so no one else can run ads? Excessive smear campaigns?

11 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 8

yes and yes

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's actually just the expected number for each party to spend. So, apparently that's just where we are now.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

The koch brothers alone are promising around 1 billion to the republican candidate.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Pretty much

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Basically yes

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

To be able to win, not on message where she'll lose, but on being the most visible and have the most attack ads.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's pretty much exactly what it's for.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Well actually let me clarify: the Reps are expected to match. And, btw, Obama spent something like $1.1b. So...not actually so unprecedented

11 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

1.1 vs 2 billion? Not so unprecedented? Oh...just a tiny little nudge on up to 2 billion from 1.1. No biggie.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah...that's kind of how our campaigns work.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

For real? $1.1b for his campaign?.......wow.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Now I'm a little skeptical. I found that number in two articles, but several others reported significantly lower numbers.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Democrats spent 1.1 b total, Obama only spent 683,546,548 on his own campaign. Source: https://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But 1.1b total was on that race, correct? Not tied up in the other campaigns that cycle?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Believe so. Some of it is not technically for Obama but is instead Obama supporters shitting on Romney.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I still cant decide if this guy's for real, but I wanna live in a world where the answer is yes.

11 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 8

This guy was active in the Civil Rights movement. He's been pushing for gay rights since the 70's. He's legit.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Dude's been saying the same stuff for like 20 years

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

He's got a long record of this consistent record. It's a safer bet than Obama was.

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Money ensures that the best people never get elected.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

You guys are getting hung up on who becomes the president....it's congress we need to worry about.

11 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 3

-Bernie Sanders. No seriously, he actually said this

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Well then we think alike.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So I have a question, what's the best thing to do about congressman from other states not your own?

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

impose term limits

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Absolutely!

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I hear people say this all the time. You had better worry about both. Nominations, executive orders, face of the nation, HUGE influence.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The lack of congressional term limits mean that one powerful person can influence legislation for an entire generation or more.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Agreed. How did we miss this in the beginning?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not sure, but it can certainly be fixed. I would say it's one of the most important things we need to fix.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It bugs me how the media reports the cash that has been raised as a leading indicator of the candidates success.

11 years ago | Likes 160 Dislikes 7

1. The trouble is that, after a certain amount, it doesn't make a huge difference. Just look at the GOP candidate history. The biggest

11 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

The problem is, it's true. The more they raise the more they can drown out their opponents with campaign propaganda.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Agreed. It is sad that our democracy is won with 30 second advertisements on TV.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2. fundraisers don't usually end up getting the nomination. So much of it pays for TV ads. Most of my generation doesn't even pay for TV.

11 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 2

What generation is that?

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah, they're going to eventually change advertising methods. All over our phones and such.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's because it absolutely is the deciding factor. At least their acknowledging it, albeit in a completely stupid and unjournalistic way.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

As an american, all I hear is "this guy hasnt sucked up to enough billionaires, its unlikely he's going to be nominated/elected."

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It is, though. Elections are basically auctions, whomever pays most wins.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Isn't it true? I think Freakononics covered it.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Fuck Clinton, Get Bernie.

11 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 7

Fuck them both, get... idk, a real candidate that isn't shit? None of the parties have announced one seeking nomination yet.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 8

What's wrong with dr Paul? He just got the CIA spying program neutered/ cancelled

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He's too socially conservative for my taste.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Abortion?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yup. He moved away from his father's "let the states handle it" policies on health to a more central-planning philosophy that I despise.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bern down for what?

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

BERNINATING THE POLITICAL FIELD!!!!

11 years ago | Likes 2240 Dislikes 54

I hate Sanders. But this was brilliant +1

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Upvoting all the Trogdor and HSR references.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

thank mr skeltal? doot doot

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Everybody, to the limit!

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sick Bern, bruh!

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Always upvote Trogdor.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Back to the ancient days of the internet! Love it.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

somebody needs to make this into a video before 2016

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

You brilliant bastard

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

BURNIE SERNNNNNDEEEERS

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

This needs to be a legit thing. Please someone make this a thing.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Berninating the political landscape! Berninating the Senate! Berninating all the billionaires, and their little thatch roofed tax havens!

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I understood that reference.

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

Trogdooooooor!

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

INTENSIVE BERN UNIT!

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I updooted the post itself, purely because I updooted this comment.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

AND THE SAN-DOR VOTES IN THE NIIIIIIGHT

11 years ago | Likes 66 Dislikes 0

*raises zippo*

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

This needs to become a remix and his campaign song.

11 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 0

I hope this is okay: http://imgur.com/G3q4JIJ

11 years ago | Likes 72 Dislikes 1

Bravo!

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

awesome

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I made a cover photo for facebook. I think it is glorious.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

should make the peasents hilary and gop canidates.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Now you're thinking with portals!

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

It's beautiful. Could you just change it a little more so it says "Berninator"?

11 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

I made the font a little better too: http://imgur.com/NQ2FXbf

11 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Thank you. It is absolutely gorgeous now. I like the subtle "superPACs" on the hut.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Haha I thought that might be a nice touch, good eye

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

And their THATCH-ROOFED SUPERPACS!!!!!

11 years ago | Likes 184 Dislikes 1

THATCH-ROOFED SUPER PAAAACS!!!!

11 years ago | Likes 52 Dislikes 0

AND THE SANDERS COMES IN THE NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

*guitar solo*

11 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

#feelthebern

11 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 2

SAAAAN-DOOOOOORSS BERNINATING ALL THE CANDIDATES.

11 years ago | Likes 98 Dislikes 0

Favoriting on mobile is a crapshoot so Imma leave this comment here instead. I want to remember this special little thread.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Same :')

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We aren't allowed to vote on preliminaries. This man should be the democratic candidate.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Up points! Up points! Up points with you!

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

SAN-DORRRRRRRRRRRS. Best I could come up with, tying Trogdor to Sanders.

11 years ago | Likes 282 Dislikes 0

Although I now want him to run as Sandors the Berninator.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

San-doors is a man, i mean hes a senator man or maybe he was just a senator. But he was still SAN-DOOORS

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

But not the peasant's.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I WILL become a full fledged citizen before the 2016 presidential election.... I need to vote this time!!!

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

The only place that true democracy can start working at is local levels, to be honest.

11 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 6

Absolutely!!! But this is part of our duty if we want change. Couldn't agree with you more. We need change from the bottom up

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don't think a socialist can safeguard a democracy or democratic republic. Bernie is a poor choice for president.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 6

I'd like to see a regional representative democracy based out of local governments with popularly elected officials.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A "true" political system doesn't exist anywhere in the world because we as humans do not have the moral integrity to maintain such a system

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Direct democracy can only work at local levels. Even then in a plurality system, the results would be unfair for any side that didnt win

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

True democracy is a nasty peice of work. What if the majority suddenly decided they didn't like gays, or jews, or atheists.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

A professor called USA an oligarchy instead of democracy, and I feel this is true. :/

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Oligarchy or Plutocracy are both more accurate than Democracy.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Holy shit, it's going to be a long year. I officially apologize to all non-Americans.

11 years ago | Likes 1198 Dislikes 30

wtf for? were the one who have to deal with most of it.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

You kidding me? Half of us already watch TV dramas/soap operas, this one's just real.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Nah but it's alright it's been a long time since I didn't hear people talking about politics in a good way, it give hope

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sshhh! What are you doing?? We're not supposed to do that, even when we're wrong. That's not the American way! http://imgur.com/uWjTsEA

11 years ago | Likes 109 Dislikes 15

Ritt Momney. I just really like his name. MITT ROMNEEHHHHHH!

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Found the non-Canadian.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm sorry why are you apologizing?

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

That's extremely brave of you to go on the record and officially apologize. I would have only unofficially apologized.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm an International Relations student specializing in American Politics. I live for this stuff. You don't need to apologize to me.

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Whats that like?

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's alright. Fairly academic and depressing at times. Not the worst thing to study IMO.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

don`t apoligise we are roting for bernie aswell

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

Rotting?

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

i don`t speak you language so it is possible that is what i meant

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Rooting, probably.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Rioting?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Just promise us; No internet law shit.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I don't think there is anything to apologize for

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 4

The constant bombardment of stuff that doesn't involve them will be annoying. You can't deny that. I'm into politics and already annoyed.

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

I think it involves everyone in some way. The world is global and not isolated. What happens on the US impacts Europe and vice versa

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Regardless, the constant advertising, that all says the same thing, more than a YEAR before the election is tiresome. We do too much in US.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I'd hear what you're saying, but I'd much rather be informed than not. Granted imgur is not the place really for this

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Actually, if non-Americans could give an outside perspective, and tell Americans to come to their senses and elect someone good, it'd help.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

There's a guy in our country who has done all he could to fight against climate change, fight for a liveable wage and help reform politics.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He's actually been there to vote, unlike others with the same job, and he has made an effort to always vote with his heart for the people.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I much prefer your politics to ours. Makes for great entertainment.

11 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

You don't have to watch our non-stop political ads.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It would be great entertainment here too if it ran for six weeks for so. These marathons we run get soooooooooo old.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Don't worry, we're doing ours in Canada, too.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Shut up Canada nobody cares.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

On the plus side, no more Harper soon.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

but who the fuck will we elect then? Trudeau isn't very bright and any ndp victory means ruined economy in 3 years

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Its in all our interests for you guys not to elect a fucknut - carry on. We ended up with a fucknut again (Cameron), do better than us.

11 years ago | Likes 157 Dislikes 8

We elected Merkel. Not my personal choice, but she's done nothing too bad. And no matter what: still better than Bush and Cameron

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah, well, we in Australia elected Abbott... I think we'd rather have Cameron...

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Cameron... the same guy who's trying encryption? I'd sooner have neither of these dipshits but yet here we are, stuck with Abbott.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

There's a trend in fucknuts these days. Abbott, Cameron, Harper et al

11 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 1

U WANNA FECKIN' GO KUNT?

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Germany and France only ones left it seems with their shit together

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I wager Germany will be the last man standing in the super long run. Or Russia.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Fffffffuuuuuuuck Harper with something hard and sandpappery. i dont care what good he's done he is still a creepy puppet

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

He's done good?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So fucking true and very sad.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

As many problems we have with Harper, I don't know about Cameron, but I doubt either are anywhere near as bad as Abbott.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I'm Aussie/Canadian citizen, I am supremely disappointed by both my nation's leaders =[

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Cameron is the ultimate fucknugget.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

I dunno, what about Theresa May? Fucknut delux with cuntsparkles.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

We could list a great many fucknuggets if we wanted to, Cameron is just the one in charge.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Looks like someone likes Cameron, hope you enjoyed having an NHS.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As a German, US politics is very entertaining. Depressing when you remember it's real, but great when you can tune that part out XD

11 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

I've got to ask...when you see American politicians, does it make you think..."How fucking dumb are these Americans??!" and "why!?" etc...

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sometimes a bit, yes. But I think the two party system that favors extremism is more at fault than the individual intelligence of the US >

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

citizens. Not that their education system hasn't tried to lower that. I mean really, teaching creationism but not proper sex ed? o0

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They don't teach creationism.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If i were not American I would view it as a little scary, I mean we are basically a bi-polar angsty teen with the largest military industri

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Yeah that's the depressing part. You still have enough nukes to blow us all to hell several times (or just bring us conventional freedom) :X

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

industrial complex in the world. AND we have ego issues..

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Imagine how depressing it is when you're actually an American. Somebody save me. Please.

11 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

Move to New Zealand or Australia. Europe. Maybe Nigeria.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Antarctica. It's the safest place.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Don't apologise to me. I'm on the edge of my seat and following this race every step of the way. Feel the Bern!

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Dammit Im a fiscal republican and socially democrat'ish lol but this guy...this guy may turn me.

11 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 5

Sounds like you're a libertarian. Check out dr Paul.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

Remember that it's not like he will be able to implement full blown socialism, nor does he want to. The ship will just be steered a bit (1)

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

more left than right for the first time in decades. Not the end of the world and small price to pay for his integrity IMO. (2/2)

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Honestly, I haven't picked anyone, I don't like any of them so far. Either to far one way or the other or professional politician. uckkk

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If he won (by some miracle) how much change do you think would happen in a corporately controlled Congress? They are bought and paid for

11 years ago | Likes 213 Dislikes 25

That's not the point. It's about making it clear that a vote for an independent isn't a vote wasted. Congressmen and senators would follow.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He said in the interview that him being elected is only part of the solution. The people has to support him as well. Call your reps. Daily.

11 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Executive appointments, judicial appointments, exec orders, not starting wars, congress would have to compromise SOME. Bernie would do good.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Baby steps.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

But if he cannot win, how good do you think our chances are of ever getting congress back from the billionaires? President is easy mode.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Don't roll over and die just because the road is long. The internet is a tool the people can use to combat money.

11 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 1

which is why they want to control the internet too.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

They were voted in office. They can and should be voted out. Public seems to only care to vote for president. Need to vote more often.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

What concerns me when we elect a president is that the party they represent appoint supreme Court justices...for life.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

they'll pull the same stalemates like they did with obama

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

This is where paying attention to your local government officials come into play.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

But because his campaign is clean of these sort of funds, he is in a position to call them out on it in a way Obama never could.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Bernie has addressed this. He's said that Obama's mistake was that upon taking office he said, "I'll take it from here". Bernie isn't (1/?)

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

going to do that. He said the only way to get Congress to budge is to mobilise a popular movement, with a million people marching on (2/?)

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Washington, and to run a 50-state campaign to connect with the white working class, and convince them to stop voting against their (3/4)

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

own best interests. And he's right -- that's the *only* way that people can move Congress. (4/4)

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

I don't know too much about this guy but Imgur seems to love him; did he really say that though?

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's why it isn't enough just to vote for Sanders. But it's also no reason not to.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Can't up vote this enough!! It's so true!!

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I agree 100%. The president has power, but not legislative power. Only congress can make or change the laws, so we are all fucked.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I think he'd appeal directly to the American appeal on TV about what he's doing and who's stopping it and how to hold them accountable.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

Just curious what you think that would accomplish? Obama is on TV all the time

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Bernie has a better record than Obama as far as voting and using his power, as he says he will.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That is truly what we need. Transparency and a voice who isn't afraid to go public about the government corruption

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

They'd tie his hands. I truly believe that we as a nation are far too corrupt to pull back now and the many still fear the few.

11 years ago | Likes 121 Dislikes 6

It was seen as that back in the 20's as well. FDR changed all of that, I believe Sanders can be then next FDR, and we can make him that.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

No more than we were when Teddy came along and busted up the oil and railroad industries, or when FDR gave s the New Deal. What was (1/2)

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

their secret? They mobilised millions of people to pressure lawmakers and made aggressive use of regulatory authority. Bernie can, too.(2/2)

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

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11 years ago (deleted Aug 31, 2015 6:52 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Because people don't want to hear the truth. We couldn't get a jobs bill for VETS passed during the Obama administration. Pretty pitiful!

11 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

I might just be a terrible person but why should vets get special treatment w/ finding jobs? There are a lot of ppl in general who want work

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

1st day on the internet?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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11 years ago (deleted Aug 31, 2015 6:52 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

He'd have to goo radical hardline on the executive orders. We're talking Teddy Roosevelt-level governing. But he could do it.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's simply politics today. No one tries to cooperate. It's about trying to take out the other guy, not do something good.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I suspect there are ways to get away from that, I'm just not sure what they are. More congressional softball games?

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

He could stand up every day and say "Billionaires are blocking reform, look at how much they donate to your rep." EVERY DAY.

11 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

exactly. The people need a voice and someone who isn't afraid to go public about these things

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Yep, and no one else in this election is willing, or able, or has a track record of doing it.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well giving this a shot is a lot better than throwing our arms up and saying FUCK IT. The president has a lot of influence.

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

agreed

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

We need to vote more in the Congressional elections; if we get enough people to care about it and get some of those bastards out...

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

...we might be able to make a difference, or at least start doing so. It doesn't help that we have no term limits, and only 1/3...

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

...of Congress can be elected in/out each election. But we can get some stuff done by doing that, and pushing for term limits.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Is there any way to change this?

11 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

Yeah but you get labeled a terrorist or a traitor by trying.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

March on Washington DC with guns. All of you.

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 3

2nd amendment.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Vote, make the change you want instead of giving in and saying there's no hope. If you want to get big money out, vote for the person who 1

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Agrees. Nothing will happen in a day but change has to start somewhere.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Out with career politicians who have made a living off being a cancer to our country.

11 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 2

^ This guy or gal gets it ... We can make a human wall and not let these crooks go to "work."

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Bandaid fix sadly. What we need to do is get people from my generation to step up in the political arena. Only real solution.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

There's nothing inherently wrong with career politicians, if they serve faithfully and expertly. They need to be reelected for a reason.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Although it wasn't explicitly implied, I'm only referring to a particular type, the dirtbag vriaty. If your goal is the betterment of (1/2)

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Sry, I see a lot of people who seem to think term limits will solve all our problems and I do my best to explain why I disagree in 140 chara

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This country and the lives of its people then I have no problem with that. I'd thank them for a life of public service, and buy em a beer.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

THIS. Make sure you don't just vote for your preferred prez; we need some new fucking congressmen/congresswomen too.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

evaluate all the countries objectively and move to the one that fits your lifestyle.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Obama has worked miracles with his executive orders. No more KinderEggs.

11 years ago | Likes 129 Dislikes 16

Oh God he also killed American citizens in drone strikes due to executive orders. Going around our laws is not respectable for a pres.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Kinder Eggs have been illegal in he US long before Obama

11 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

Since the '70s from what I read.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

well... you're not wrong.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Those executive orders that are mostly illegal and are constantly being overturned, you mean those orders?

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 20

Also, I just love how the first instinct of Imgur is to silence me instead of having a conversation.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Yes. Those orders. I have not heard of any of them being overturned. I could be wrong, source?

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Recess appointments are not Executive Orders.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I wish money didn't rule politics like this. I feel like we miss out on so much potential.

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I think the message is partly, it is up to us to educate ourselves on what/who is behind the ppl we vote for

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I have worked on a national campaign before and we all need salaries.....

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The way to fix this is to start electing people who believe it should be citizens not corporations whose voices are heard.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

i disagree. we as americans spend more money on gum in a year than all elections combined over 2 years.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 7

That may be the strangest comparison I've ever seen.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

gum is so barely inconsequential compared to the federal budget. that's the point: we don't spend enough

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Enough?! Why do you view political campaign spendings as something positive? It's exclusively negative.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It is passive because it is speech, and the more political speech the better.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

http://www.wolf-pac.com gogo

11 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

I think another problem is that most people who would be good politicians would never want to be a politician in the first place

11 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

As a non-American, couldn't you guys ban political advertising? Its non existent across most of Europe

11 years ago | Likes 153 Dislikes 3

i see signs all the time in Germany

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

WUT? I SEE POLITICAL ADVERTISING ALL OVER THE PLACE. ESPECIALLY DURING ELECTION. BUT IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO BAN IT. MORE REGULATION THOUGH.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The true problem is apathy. Most only think of the gov. when it affects them. It takes huge amounts of ad spend to get people to vote. 1

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

They can but it turns into something else. UK parties get supposedly anonymous donations but it's all bullshit really.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

it's a huge market in itself ... too many people make lots of dollars for it to be banned.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

They actually changed the law not that long ago to allow for more donations... They are moving in the opposite direction.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Is it? You don't have signs or websites? Or have you just driven advertising into hiding so it can't be labeled as such?

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

People are impressionable. If a big "no ads" movement started ut would ironically be drowned out by a sea of counter ads.

11 years ago | Likes 93 Dislikes 0

It's also best to keep in mind that the media is EVERYWHERE these days. Advertising is inevitable, even if they don't pay for it.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

It's not a simple, "why don't you guys just stop?" The money is in there now, and it's gonna take a huge movement to get it out..like, huge

11 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 2

Corporate personhood seems to me to be the bigger danger.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The 5 Republican Justices on the Supreme Court ruled that giving unlimited $$$ to candidate SuperPACs for political ads is "free speech".

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

And that day the entire world facepalmed really, really hard. Is there any hope left for freedom in the USA?

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

You need a citizen's movement to lobby for a change in the law. It may seem like a daunting task but it would seem that most people (1)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

agree that money=/=free speech, so people would probably join it all over. Best of luck! Assuming you're in the US that is :) (2/2)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The television companies are too powerful. They make way too much money off political ads and put too much money into lobbying.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Free speech :-/ It's one of the founding principals in the US. Can't limit what others say except in very, very specific situations.

11 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 3

You make it sound like Western Europe doesn't have free speech.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You can limit how much money organizations can donate to political campaigns though. I don't see that as infringing on free speech.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

Neither do I, but unfortunately the Supreme Court felt different. I think that's made the entire situation more difficult.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Lots of countries have free speech and these kinds of restrictions on campaigns. America isn't some unique hyper-free state.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

1) You misunderstand me. To many Americans, the idea of "free speech" is sacred. Holy even. Trying to limit speech, for any reason, is

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2) extremely difficult. It's like trying to filter the bible. I'm not claiming this is right or wrong, just that it likely won't happen.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We have Party Political Broadcasts which are free and fairly allotted. No ads.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_political_broadcast

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

That's unlikely in the US. Besides, our media discusses and talks with politicians so much that the ads are probably not actually necessary.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

The point isn't to limit exposure. It's to limit politicians getting bribes and owing favours.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not necessary wouldn't cause billions to be spent continuously

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Money in pol is like the chicken and the egg. Are politicians front-runners because they raise a lot of money or are they able to raise...

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

It's money in exchange for favor in legislation, and also influence. I feel like big donors have their candidates by the ovaries/balls.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

...money because they are popular (donors curry favor by donating to those who are likely to win). The latter would explain why many...

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

...large donors put money behind each candidate

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

How can we make a Go fund me for him where the max donation is $42?

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

Why don't you?

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Too bad Socialism got tied in with Communism, and all its positives are ignored.

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 3

Due to Hollywood...

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

That's mainly in the USA. In Europe socialist parties are generally much more appreciated, although they have their own flaws of course

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

you can do something against it. consider joining wolf-pac for example.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

yeah, wish there were less TV commercials & it was just a few independent polling websites that help people know where the candidates stand

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

http://www.isidewith.com/political-quiz seems ok, but not complete

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

wish wish wish says the fish. nothing will change says time.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Can we all just stop being complacent, and start legitimately supporting this shit?

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Missing out on much potential? If this guy doesn't make the presidency, we're all fucked

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah I also wish money didn't run a country's economy and is why I will not be voting for my friend Bernie bc he wants 50% of my 50k a year!

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I still can't believe how much they spend on campaigns over in the US. It's like a whole economy!

11 years ago | Likes 394 Dislikes 3

It's fucked and we actually have debates in our political system of making campaign financing limitless and without restrictions!

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It is basically to run the economy in your interest if you give enough.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sundowner would be proud.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's baffling and wasteful. And people overall are so uninformed that it takes that type of money to gain enough renown through big media.

11 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 3

Wasteful? The money is going into the economy, getting taxed and recycled. Better than rotting in some rich dudes bank account.

11 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 3

Baffling? Yes. Wasteful? No. A ton of people are employed by campaigns. More jobs, more income is a good thing!

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

True, but that also sort of explains rising income inequality...

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It is wasteful in its long term effects though, considering that they are basically buying legislation to earn more money.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

For reference, Americans spend ~$2 billion on chewing gum annually, far more than we spend on all campaigns combined.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 11

Actually I wish you were right but look at my post above we are spending almost a third more then that now on each POTUS election...Sad

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

4billion/2 years on gum AKA 1 election cycle

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And? What is your point? If I spend 8 hours a day sleeping that doesn't make it any better if I also spend 8 hours a day murdering people...

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

my point is the federal budget is trillions but we barely spend anything on deciding who should be in government

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

For reference, in the UK the two major parties each spent around £17,000,000 in 2005. In the US the two spent almost $1,000,000,000 each.

11 years ago | Likes 156 Dislikes 2

For further reference that is 0.29$ per person in the UK and 3.10$ per person in the US. (Including conversion)

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

We had no US election in 2005, but 2004=$1,910,000,000 / 2008=$2,799,000,000 / 2012=$2,600,000,000 rounded bc Fuck 100% accuracy!

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

For those who aren't mathologists, that figure is ONE BILLION. With a B.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Thousand, million, billion. 3, 6, and 9 zeros.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

3 6 12.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As a swede, 17 million pounds still sounds like a crazy amount

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 3

YUP, SWEDISH PARTIES ARE ONE OF THE TOP SPENDERS IN THE WORLD PER CAPITA. SWEDEN HAS ALSO BEEN CRITICICED BY EU FOR ITS LACK OF TRANSPARENCY

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I googled what our elections costs. about half a billion crowns. roughly 38 million pounds so I guess we're spending a lot more. Wierd

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

£17,000,000 = $26,000,000, so almost 40 times as much.

11 years ago | Likes 98 Dislikes 2

American population is only around 5 times bigger than the UK. 64,000,000 vs 318,000,000.

11 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 2

What about gdp?

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

It still doesn't add up

11 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 2

Cash rules everything around me!

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You're fucking right we do! If there were more people who wanted to actually represent us, the people, then holy fuck we'd be better off!

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Agree.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

you do.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2 words: contribution limits. In canada ever man, woman, child, company and organization can only (legally) give $1500.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

In New Zealand, 2014 lowest perceived corruption, non gov money attached to Politicians is snapped on... and US has lobbyists, GG, FREEDOM

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

be the change you want to see, as they say, the democracy is still there and you can vote for people not taking such money if you want.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

and dont forget the power of word of mouth, freedom of speech is still there too and you should promote the candidate you'd like to see.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

IKR shit if it wasn't for my crippling student debt I'd run for president! I'd probably lose, but still!

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

In Norway political TV ads, posters, billboards and blatant advertising in general is banned to make it less about money, worth a try?

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

3_3 Was this the change Obama promised?

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 14

Don't look at what politicians promise. Look at how they vote.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

( ._.) I'll stop trying to be funny now.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

1/2 Money and politics are dirty bed fellows. You always hear about how all money has cocaine on it- I feel like all money has political

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Wish in one hand, shit in the other, see which hand fills up first.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

If only it worked like that

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Constituents know so little about the politicians, massive advertising is essentially necessary.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2/2 bullshit attached to it.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

SuperPACs and lobbyism controls politics when it really shouldn't. Congress voting for lobbys, rather than the people they represent.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yep.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's mostly a liberal issue, but to give Republicans credit, a few of them are speaking out against Citizens United, too. I wish for more.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Mostly the older Republicans. Pre-Tea Party. Funny how much more I respect traditional Republicans now that the Tea Party is around.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Real Republicans are against Citizen's United as well. Most Americans are staunch centrists.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I realize people's issue with Citizens United. But more people are going to the internet to research the candidates and rely less on..

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

whatever garbage their fed from FOX, CNN, MSNBC, etc. That's just to answer the issue of PACs though.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

people vote along party lines regardless.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

All that money for campaigning, yet no money for healthcare and creating infrastructure (to create more jobs). #BanCampaigning

11 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 3

we spend more money on gum in a year than all elections in 2 year cycle, which determines how trillions are spent

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 6

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11 years ago (deleted Jul 8, 2015 10:32 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

:-| all Americans together (WE) spend that amount of money on all campaigns.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

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11 years ago (deleted Jul 8, 2015 10:32 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

We actually spend a TON of money on health care. But the system is so broken that it doesn't translate to better care for the average person

11 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

More money won't help, we need a complete revamp of the health care system, away from a for-profit system.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

um, that money pays for peoples' jobs

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 8

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11 years ago (deleted Jul 8, 2015 10:32 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

the products and services are bought from people with jobs

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

What do you think happens to money after it's spent on campaigning?

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 8

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11 years ago (deleted Jul 8, 2015 10:33 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

I'll ask the question again, and this time maybe answer more slowly: What do you think happens to the money they spend after they spend it?

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

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11 years ago (deleted Jul 8, 2015 10:33 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

I'm saying money doesn't disappear from the planet just because one person spends it. Now someone else has it and the same logic applies.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

Yup. But it employs a bunch of people and ends up being super important to some local economies.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

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11 years ago (deleted Jul 8, 2015 10:33 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

How is the system so broken that having big sponsors is what makes you competitive rather than the strength of your platform?

11 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 1

I guess I'm going to be the one that bursts your bubble. The rich have always bough votes and controlled the political system everywhere.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 9

Even George Washington bought people drinks to get them to vote for him

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You are the one living in a bubble where it's apparently impossible to fund campaigns publicly.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

We should pay senators and congressmen minimum wage. That'll really cull the herd.

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

If you start paying them too little then they'll be more susceptible to bribery (not that they aren't already).Needs to be some middleground

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Why doesn't this comment have more points???

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Because, while its a good idea to pay them less, minimum wage is too extreme.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not really it would mean that they would just get more money from other sources :x

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I mean, not to rain on anyone's parade, but it's not like the press has taken a very hard look at him yet. It's all been pretty softball.

11 years ago | Likes 58 Dislikes 11

We don't know how hard they've been looking. They've not been smearing him through his own dirt, so maybe there isn't much dirt to speak of.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The best they can do is make fun of things he wrote badly or was wrong about 40+ years ago.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Anywhere you think Bernie should be scrutinized more closely? I can't say there's a single part of his platform I strongly disagree with.

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

I agree with most of his positions except for raising minimum wage. I feel like that would just increase inflation, but I'm no economist

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm not the one to ask, I'm well to the left of the median Democrat, even. But he has to sit down with a smart interviewer and talk 1/2

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

about issues for a long time, and then we have to see what the bulk of the US electorate thinks of him. So far he's a cute non-threat. 2/3

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

If he becomes a threat, the tone of the questions will change. Is he really that isolationist? What would that mean? What would his 3/4

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

foreign policy objectives be? How would he go from Obamacare to single payer? Get down to the nitty-gritty, the devil's in the details. 4/4

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

He actually does fridays with bernie on the radio. Google it, he goes pretty in depth on his views and answers calls

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Right, I'm not saying he's hiding. I'm saying that until top level news people interview him and take him seriously and write analysis 1/2

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What do you mean? Imgur has been very impartial in their pants-jizzing over him

11 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 4

There's sample bias due to imgur's (and reddit's) demographics.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Please don't make the age argument. Look at pictures from Bernie's events, there are tons of old people excited about him.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 6

Demographics does not mean only age... On the internet there are lots of people outside the US, and they tend to lean more left than USA.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

(1) Do you think "demographics" means "age"? The users of this site are mostly white, male, tech savvy, very liberal, below average income.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

(2) These demographics are highly represented in Bernie's core support base. Women and racial minorities tend to support Clinton.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Generally speaking you don't find many conservatives online unless its specifically on a conservative site.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 5

Seems like every time those demographics posts pop up though, imgur is fairly balanced politically. However, both skew young age-wise.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Note my phrasing. I never said they didn't exist. I said you cannot find them. Conservatives don't feel safe voicing opinions on most sites.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

It's not like the press takes a very hard look at any candidate. This is the press in the year 2015, after all.

11 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 2

Can't wait for the ridiculous attack ads from both sides. They can get pretty mean. CANDIDATE 1 EATS BABIES, VOTE CANDIDATE 2!

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Have you read Dave Barry Hits Below the Beltway? If you haven't, do. It's hilarious and talks about campaign ads in one chapter.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's early, also Mr. Sanders has made it plain this will be a social media campaign, not a press campaign. Getting press time takes $$$$$.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I love that the oldest candidate is best at using social media. take that, stereotypes!

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I don't agree with thus guys polotics, but he seems to have what our country has been losing for decades; integrity.

11 years ago | Likes 174 Dislikes 24

Don't Imgur, open inside.

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Remember kids, open Imgur has no spell check.

11 years ago | Likes 44 Dislikes 3

That's the single biggest reason I support him. I agree with his policies, but his main draw is that he has genuine convictions.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

yeah, I don't agree with him on all the issues, but it's not Hillary, so he's got that goin' for him

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

I respect this and you.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Weren't people saying the same things about Ron Paul in 08 and 12 as they are about Bernie now?

11 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

It's harder to run when your policies aren't based on handouts.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah, but Ron Paul isn't running this time, only Rand. I'll vote for Rand in the republican primary, but if it comes down to Bernie vs [+]

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Rand is the shiniest of the turds on the heaping pile of shit that is the republican field

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

one of the idiots on the republican ticket I suppose I'll vote Bernie.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

I still find it hard to believe that Hillary is running, and I'm supporting someone else. Go Bernie!!!

11 years ago | Likes 841 Dislikes 68

Exactly this,

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

I saw this man in person last month, he is a genuine person with real intentions. More than I can say for Clinton! Go Bernie!

11 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 1

I'm with you - I expected to be supporting Hillary for 2016, didn't see Bernie coming! I have more reading to do, but so far I'm pro Bernie!

11 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 7

Exactly this

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Same here! I was really excited when I heard Hillary was running but after researching more I'm Bernie 100%

11 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 4

I prefer Bernie, but I will not hesitate to go to the polls for Clinton next November if she's the nominee. I hope you'll do the same.

11 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 5

Indeed I will. I'm in NC, we went Blue in '08 and Red in '12, so every vote is going to count.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 5

Hillary will have to be dragged kicking and screaming for the race. She will stop at nothing to get the Democratic nomination.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

Like she did in 2008? She knows when she is licked.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

2008 got kinda mean. So far the Dems seem above that stuff; I hope it stays that way.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

But she doesn't know when Bill has been licked.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I find it hard to believe that you'd support Hillary even if she was running against a ground squirrel that has rabies and mange.

11 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 9

I would vote for the Terminator before I ever let myself live with the knowledge I voted for Hillary Clinton.

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 3

Yes. I would LITERALLY vote for Skynet before Hillary. This isn't sarcasm. I'm being honest. There would be less damage with skynet.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

At least the terminators have feelings.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yeah seriously. Even if you're a die hard democrat, she's got so much corruption surrounding her she'll just make your ideology look bad.

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

What if it only had the mange but no rabies?

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

That's irrelevant because the hypothetical ground squirrel has BOTH mange and rabies.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Then it would be a shoo in for sure.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well If the Republican she runs against is a science-denying warmongering antichoice regressive, she may be the better option.

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 3

Skynet for President!

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Well on the one hand, Skynet is a lot smarter than most politicians running. OTOH, I don't know if I can support their "anti-human" platform

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don't find it so hard to believe. Being the female Democrat doesn't automatically make them the better/best candidate.

11 years ago | Likes 188 Dislikes 14

S/he didn't say that was why s/he likes Hilary though

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

She was the only candidate until Bernie started running

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

it does if you're a mainstream Leftard

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 5

lelelel

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

one for the haterz

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

it's almost as though a woman can do just as awful a job as man can

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

But the sad truth of it is that Hilary will probably win due to just being a woman, even though she (imo) would be horrible for the country.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

I dont get this mindset. For every person voting for her because shes a woman, theres certainly someone voting against her for that reason

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I really doubt that. The amount of people who vote against her just because she is a woman has to be pretty damn low in the 21st century 1/2

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

but there is a hell of a lot of people voting for her in the name of progression without looking at the other democratic candidates 2/2.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I was hoping she'd be at least a slightly good candidate. Now that I can vote I've become rather cynical about all this political shizzle.

11 years ago | Likes 46 Dislikes 3

As long as that cynicism makes you more active in politics and not less that is good. The biggest problem is how few people are engaged.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

it does to most of the female population

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 13

Females should want a female president to win based on good policies. Winning strictly due to gender would be a step backwards for feminism.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

feminism in the last 20 years has been a step backwards, why wouldn't it continue

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Unfortunately, yes. But, as a female, I don't want a female pres just because she female, but because she's the best for the job.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Which, by the way, ain't Hillary Clinton.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

if you really believe that, that you are just voting her as a female

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Hah like hell I'm voting for her. She's more of a bitch than I am, and that's saying something

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

huh? I've supported Hillary and her views and policies for years. I'm delighted yet surprised that there's someone I agree with even more.

11 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 18

Can you provide me with 2 views or policies you support?

11 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 3

doesnt she share most views with Bernie? I took that poll and i got 93% bernie, 91% hillary

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah, except he's not as shady as the clintons are. I haven't decided my vote yet, but I know for sure it won't be Clinton.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

She's not just a "female democrat". She's been in national politics since before most Imgurians were born.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

That doesn't mean she would be the best for the country, experience doesn't equate to how good they will be as a president, even though 1/2

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

it could help, that doesn't mean you should vote for her just because she's been in politics a long time 2/2

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Not really. She was the wife of a politician. Her political career began in 2000. The average Imgurian is not 15.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

The average Imgurian is less than 23, the number of years since she started campaigning for her husband's presidential bid.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Calling the First Lady, especially one as active as her, just "the wife of a politician" is a gross misstatement.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

1) It does earn her Progressive Points though, which is appealing to the liberal voter base, and voters love to vote form over substance.

11 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 4

2) As much as I think Bernie is the candidate America needs, from current polls it seems very unlikely he'll win the nomination.

11 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

What about the progressive points for her being against marijuana legalization and until 2013 strongly opposed gay marriage?

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

That would require people to actually research her politics instead of jumping to "women in politics is progressive" tokenism.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Everyone is predicting her nomination. I HOPE Bernie can prove them wrong!

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Hilary is an evil cow with a giant trail of death and corruption behind her.

11 years ago | Likes 160 Dislikes 44

She poisoned our water supply, burned our crops and delivered a plague unto our houses!

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

I want to see that gif

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I second that. Someone with skills please make it.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So, like, a bull?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Sounds like Tammy

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

1 or 2?

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

One was the librarian, right?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But tell us how you really feel.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I was actually disgusted by this comment, but then I saw your username. Well played.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Your name fits you to a tee

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

Awww thank you :) I like to use this account to make true statements and laugh at the morons who mock my name afterwords.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

Stupid is as stupid does.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 6

She was beautifully innocent once upon a time. Check her back when Billy was president. Total BABE, and ambitious. But, eventually $old.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 10

When she was 1st lady she made her protection detail hide out of sight because she couldn't stand to look at them. This included swamps. 1/2

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Ummm nope. Her and Bill have been on the same track since the college days.

11 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

You don't remember her vigorous effort to push for universal health care, do you? She was never bought but eventually gave in for funding.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

My source would be my father who got to spend months hiding with snakes and alligators while ensuring no one was bombing their ass. 2/2

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Hilary being pretty has nothing to do with how corrupt she is.

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Reread my original comment before feeding off replies to bad comments. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_health_care_plan_of_1993

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

[citation needed]

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

BLENGHRAZEEI!!!1!

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

SOLD ATOM BOMBS TO RUSSIA!!!!1!

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So many more people on the right will be inspired to cast their votes for "NOT HILLARY" that I can't see how she'll win in the general.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Dance like Bernie!

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Hard to believe anyone would vote for that liar lying phony.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I"m only surprised ppl are voting FOR her lol

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Mark my words, this is going to split the democrats like mondale did and we'll get another bush.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 8

One can't take votes from the other, there's no way you'd be able to vote Hillary 'or' Bernie in the general election. Both Dem. noms

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

I really, really don't want this to be true.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Nader in 2000.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

yes i believe so.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

But, let me assuage your fears, Sanders has stated that he will absolutely not be running unless it is on the Democratic ticket.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Well that makes me feel a heap better. So the dispute will stay in the primaries. :)

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I still find it hard to believe that Hillary is running.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Why? She is an establishment Democrat and until Bernie's popularity exploded she was the odds on favorite for the nomination if she ran.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Are you kidding? Hillary is a terrible choice for president.

11 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 4

dont say why or anything, just declare it as true because you said so. not that you will, you're in lockstep with whatever rush says anyway

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

It's not hard to do some digging to see how corrupt she is. How "bought and paid for" she is. Don't be lazy.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

just not as terrible as the entire republican field

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 9

Based on what? You being liberal? Spare me.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

go ahead and defend the 15 or so republicans running for president then

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Why? I don't like the funding they are getting either, so it boils down to philosophy for me.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1