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JhericFury
Clean? Maybe. Crowded? Oh sweet jesus you have no idea.
Alin8
Do not worry, Putin will make these tunnels in every country in the EU.
TallGuy82
Hitman
theadventuresofpuddles
Well I guess I won't be Putin any trash on the floor.
dohcohv
Most communist countries would have really nice mass transit in the capitals, at least for a couple of stations.
PickleTail12
And then there's the metro in Amsterdam... http://imgur.com/N6fkFLt
gabbalabadingdong
looks like a wealthy neighborhood. I would like to see the train that takes the dogs in and out of the city...
Mergul
As a guy who lives there, niceness of metro station does not imply niceness of neighbourhood. Like, at all.
Interesting. In Japan the nice areas have cooler stations, cuz taxes are regional. Where does the money to maintain it come from?
herc18
God damn that's pretty.
Baconmac1234
In Soviet Russia the subway looks awesome
SkiKneeKNYT
Time has arrived for moving my ass to Russia.
Sugarsnice
I would so love to go there
Skruvboll
Man, this makes the 2033 novel much more creepy.
DaniaAudax
In Soviet Russia, nice things have you!
MakingUpAUsernameIsTerrifying
Don't make eye contact with anyone or you will be forced to battle them.
cavegoatlove
in russia train waits for you
sergeanttbag
With ak
letsgolightning
Doesn't seem like there's too many people Russian to get to work on time
Thor561
That's due to the high levels of unemployment.
WestCoastIsBestCoast
These pictures are almost certainly not taken during peak hours.
lotdw
Clean, yes. Empty, no.
RyanCharlie
It stays that clean because they kill all their homeless people.
Fweeblies
That train is covered in pics of food.
BananaCreamPie7
Artyom would love this
flickerdart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvYi1MRvX_o
Apollo1989
I was just about to post a Metro comment, but beat me to it sir +1
harleyquinn30
#1 Been to many metros (NY, DC, Paris, etc) and never seen people walk as fast or aggressively as in Moscow. #2 Some man meowed in my ear.
InfinitusEquitas
Have not been to Paris. Can confirm otherwise... you do not walk slowly in the morning.
Ooh yeah. You oughta see what happens when 15 Korean tourists walk into the middle of the station and stand there gawking. Instant ragefest.
misspeanut
In Rome a man sat down next to me and started rubbing his head on my shoulder (like a cat), clicking his tongue and purring...
ZacMuerte
unrelated: I never knew that by saying #(some number) in a comment on an album, it actually linked to that image.
ToastyMozart
10/10, would shoot nosalis in.
ChillySuperDuck
METRO 2033 TAUGHT ME OTHERWISE
MountainYankee
RUN GET TO THE MOTOR CART!!
FlyingTigerRose
Ah, but that... that was after.
Idra
I agree with you!
Robopengy
Bliad!
Wylf
I absolutely adore the series, both the games AND the books (although 2034 is a bit lackluster, at least in the german translation).
"H.G. Wells once wrote, "If we don't end wars, wars will end us.". And somehow, I stopped my war." D:
Ustrello
Ill take you there for only one boolet
Snegurkin
Try the books. Ohmegooosh.
8zab
The books are amazing! Especially the first one. I was disappointed once I played the game and saw how Khan was in it though lol
IamCommanderShepardAndThisIsMyFavouriteStoreOnTheCitadel
Yeah, the second one wasn´t very good IMO. But the first one... HHNNNGGHH
energ1ze
+ METRO Last Light.
Moan2
Im thinking of getting the redux versions of both, is it worth it?
I just picked it up the other day. Im still playing 2033 redux but its a definite visual improvemente. Has a new mode also.
chriswihu
i would say yes, i am playing both and with the gritty world that 4A creates i fell in love with Metro once more
Metro 2033 redux? Definitely worth it, for the customizable guns alone. Last light? If you have the original.. nah, not really.
And if I don't have the original version of last light(or 2033)?
games itself are great. Metro 2033 I'd buy in redux, last light depends on you. Both cost the same on steam, buy what you like. (end)
Buy both. I personally like the original last light graphics a bit more from what I've seen (the redux seems a lot brighter), but the (1)
TheTempestAlmighty
I spy a pair of Adidas track pants...
Arcade
The only true way to confirm it is in fact Russia.
ThatGuy112
Why is it stereotypical for Eastern Europeans to wear track pants?
DirtyMclean
People who dress like that are often with criminal attitude. They are also called "Urlas"
khora
Take a photo of the general public anywhere in the world and the three stripes show up.
kernany
Not sure if literal pants or joke reference... (I searched and searched and coild not find said pants)
ImpertinentBuffoon
Second bench, behind the two girls. He has one leg crossed over the other.
TheRicM
Those girls look hot btw
A lot of Russian girls do.
They kinda look Asian. Although, I know a lot of Russians look Asian though. Adidas pants guy looks Asian too. Might be their dad Lol :)
Also, nice username btw
HappyEngineer
Niko! My cousin!
IchitheKira
let's go bowling
TheVulgarBulgar
The level of Metro 2033 and ignorance about Eastern Europe in the comments is too damn high.
FoxyEllie
Ohhh, so that's where the pretty went. Underground. Guess it makes sense.
billiebitkiller
Yeah, everything in Russia is grey and freezing. Guess they must have hid the good stuff. Typical russians.
confuzzle
I take it you have never been to Russia then.
iwishiwasawhale
I was shocked by how beautiful I found Moscow, even if it was largely unkempt.
HeyFreckleFace
There, there. I'm sure you find it every day in the mirror.
MaximumBork
Another Russian underground http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01539/cave-man_1539937i.jpg
ondaheightsofdespair
10/10 would inhabit
FrogPaste
How do they preserve it so well? Does it naturally stay clean or do people clean it daily?
IdownvotePeopleWhoComplainAboutDownvoters
I wouldn't call it clean. It is filled with soviet scum..
wheresthebaby
Ppl take their rubbish and Putin in the bins.
ButterfaceTaintClown
Underground transit systems are like dreadlocks - if you leave them long enough they clean themselves.
NERDRAGEohacat
I'm pretty sure the first country to invent self-cleaning interiors will conquer the world by winning the loyalty of every man in existence.
PanderBare
It's Russia. They shoot you if you trash it.
Iwendigo
We do not question the motherland
fauxnews
It was coated with the bitter tears of the Soviet proletariat.
HUGEMELONS
Your comment is glorious
lesserknowncharacter
Subways coated with rat and homeless pee is the American way.
HylianHero93
Well you see Ivan, when you put soap bullets into Kalishnikov, it makes fun to clean.
LavaAxe
This is how you clean the accurate.
evolution4407
Looks like the Russians have a great sense of civic pride. Used to be like that in America too. Too bad that's no longer the case.
They keep it clean as a favor to the dogs that ride the subway.
JosephDunaravich
It's not what any normal person would call clean. That said, much cleaner than the new York subway.
stouf761
Well you see, when any janitor could be a KGB agent, everybody stays orderly and tidy.
imadogperson
Someone should tell that janitor the KGB doesn't exist anymore.
AKUUUUUUUUUUUU
Well, that's why he's a janitor now.
eggmuffin
Changed name =/= ceased to exist
nycnewyork
LOL
KGB, FSB, potato, potahto.
lurker6
They changed their name to the FSB. New name, same great friendly service.
CoeusDarksoul
Wasn't that a James Bond quote? =P
I heard it as a Russian anekdoty.
LordWok
This post made me laugh. do you have the first fucking clue what russia is really like? not calling them the KGB doesnt mean they dont exist
lol
[deleted]
a rose by any other name mate.
greymouser7
There is no such thing as naturally clean. On a submarine that is cleaned 3 times every 18 hours, there is always dirt-we generate it.
Completely sealed environment with lots of filters and electro-static precipitators (burns oil vapors).
GasBandit
Fine for leeterink ees trip to gulag, comrade.
tetanus78
Vodka
totallyrealname
I'm assuming daily cleaning, no trains between 1 and 6. I've seen cleaners around during the day too, they keep it well maintained.
Yoshiru
The good lighting helps... legit, people are more likely to trash dark places
VodkaReindeer
The science on that is a bit iffy.
soukmania
They are constantly cleaning everything night and day here in paris and it still looks and smells like some hobo's panties.
Maybe stop using hobo-panties-scented cleaner?
I wonder why we haven't thought about this sooner... thanks for the advice!
Our main problem is the river sometimes just a few meters above and overcrowded galleries. But still, it's a shame.
That danky summer smell and people sweat. mmm.
People sweat is a thing, but weird fungi growing everywhere on a daily basis no matter what is something much more concerning. :(
KuistiPanu
After living a year in SPb, they have tons of janitors down there and no trash cans. Somehow everyone understands that...
that the metro needs to stay clean. Earlier you couldn't even take pictures down there, since it was "strategic destination", as its also
also a a-bomb shelter. See book & game "Metro"
maggymooooo
They're incredibly protective of the stations. It's the same in St Petersberg. There are wardens on every platform to prevent littering
Caption may be misleading.
bleueye
Been there.. shit's clean yo. Could've been just for 9th of Mai (liberation day) but I doubt it
9th of May is Victory Day, yo.
Yeah that's what I meant, sorry, it's called liberation day were I come from and we celebrate it on the 5th of may. prev comment was to say-
that they could have cleaned it just for the festivities etc. When I was there, there were also a lot of trucks cleaning the roads so yeah.
WhatzitTooya
You have to wrestle against Putin if you get caught littering.
SeanVsInternet
How guilty would you feel dropping litter in that?
Incendria
Putin personally eats anyone who litters
JediEwok
Europe's subways would smell less like pee if they didn't charge people 2 euros to use a public toilet.
SininenHetki
The only thing that provides for are clean bathrooms. I'd honestly rather have clean sidewalks
chibbity
Hilarious and probably true.
funkmaster40
Korean ones are also this clean. A mix of good cleaning staffs and people not being assholes.
FictitiousWhale
This is in Moscow, the subway system isnt that large, so i'm guessing it's a little easier to maintain. Littering is also a huge nope there.
The hell do you mean isn't that large? Compared to what, Tokyo?
yea compared to larger cities lol why so much hate
Moscow's has the most riders in the world and is 5th longest.
http://gtoday.ru/img/metro_map.png Yo momma isn't that large, punk
Well, I live in NYC. So that's what I'm comparing it to, punk.
Actually, NYC Metro is 394 km long, while Moscow Metro is 325 km long...punk. So still no.
hmm seems like you just proved my point. thank you :]
And thanks for completely ignoring the second part of my comment, that people in Moscow are a lot cleaner and care about their surroundings.
People tend to not want to be the first one soil something.
dustoftheroadswalked
It's cleaned constantly, but throwing garbage down just isn't something people normally do. There are no garbage bins in the subway btw.
People litter in Moscow like nothing I've ever seen.
Streets - yes (getting somewhat better in recent years though), subway - not really.
briefcakes
You ain't got shit on nyc e line
What's so special about NYC E line?
IAlreadyReachedImguriteSoIDontCareAboutMyPointsAnymore
Or any MTA line
DeusExSpockina
Having been there, what you can't see in these photos is the fine layer of dirt and grime that covers everything, including the ceilings.
Snooj
Wow, even the dirt is fine? That's phat.
kendrin
I ride the metro everyday and I haven`t seen any of that
i don't know if its better in the summer, but in the winter the stations were just grimy.
Atharaphelun
Still better than the sewage leaking into every nook and cranny of NY subway stations.
mechanimated
I lived in Minsk before I came to NYC...it is SO much fucking cleaner there. My parents had to like, brace me for the filth the first time.
As a guy who rides the Metro to university every day, really?
idk if it improves in the summer, but you could see footprints and scuffs that cleared away the dirt on the floor in mid-winter. 1/2
the cars were cleaner than the stations in my experience. The nuclear fall out blast doors at the bottom of the escalators were fun too. 2/2
Yeah, I always wondered if anybody maintains those, or if they're rusted through. I like to think they still work.
my guess its a strategic defense so they do. who can say though?
AbusiveWankerVEVO
Ehhh... Russia has nuclear subs rusting away, think it mostly depends on who's in charge of the station.
JhericFury
Clean? Maybe. Crowded? Oh sweet jesus you have no idea.
Alin8
Do not worry, Putin will make these tunnels in every country in the EU.
TallGuy82
Hitman
theadventuresofpuddles
Well I guess I won't be Putin any trash on the floor.
dohcohv
Most communist countries would have really nice mass transit in the capitals, at least for a couple of stations.
PickleTail12
And then there's the metro in Amsterdam... http://imgur.com/N6fkFLt
gabbalabadingdong
looks like a wealthy neighborhood. I would like to see the train that takes the dogs in and out of the city...
Mergul
As a guy who lives there, niceness of metro station does not imply niceness of neighbourhood. Like, at all.
gabbalabadingdong
Interesting. In Japan the nice areas have cooler stations, cuz taxes are regional. Where does the money to maintain it come from?
herc18
God damn that's pretty.
Baconmac1234
In Soviet Russia the subway looks awesome
SkiKneeKNYT
Time has arrived for moving my ass to Russia.
Sugarsnice
I would so love to go there
Skruvboll
Man, this makes the 2033 novel much more creepy.
DaniaAudax
In Soviet Russia, nice things have you!
MakingUpAUsernameIsTerrifying
Don't make eye contact with anyone or you will be forced to battle them.
cavegoatlove
in russia train waits for you
sergeanttbag
With ak
letsgolightning
Doesn't seem like there's too many people Russian to get to work on time
Thor561
That's due to the high levels of unemployment.
WestCoastIsBestCoast
These pictures are almost certainly not taken during peak hours.
lotdw
Clean, yes. Empty, no.
RyanCharlie
It stays that clean because they kill all their homeless people.
Fweeblies
That train is covered in pics of food.
BananaCreamPie7
Artyom would love this
flickerdart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvYi1MRvX_o
Apollo1989
I was just about to post a Metro comment, but beat me to it sir +1
harleyquinn30
#1 Been to many metros (NY, DC, Paris, etc) and never seen people walk as fast or aggressively as in Moscow. #2 Some man meowed in my ear.
InfinitusEquitas
Have not been to Paris. Can confirm otherwise... you do not walk slowly in the morning.
Mergul
Ooh yeah. You oughta see what happens when 15 Korean tourists walk into the middle of the station and stand there gawking. Instant ragefest.
misspeanut
In Rome a man sat down next to me and started rubbing his head on my shoulder (like a cat), clicking his tongue and purring...
ZacMuerte
unrelated: I never knew that by saying #(some number) in a comment on an album, it actually linked to that image.
ToastyMozart
10/10, would shoot nosalis in.
ChillySuperDuck
METRO 2033 TAUGHT ME OTHERWISE
MountainYankee
RUN GET TO THE MOTOR CART!!
FlyingTigerRose
Ah, but that... that was after.
Idra
I agree with you!
Robopengy
Bliad!
Wylf
I absolutely adore the series, both the games AND the books (although 2034 is a bit lackluster, at least in the german translation).
Wylf
"H.G. Wells once wrote, "If we don't end wars, wars will end us.". And somehow, I stopped my war." D:
Ustrello
Ill take you there for only one boolet
Snegurkin
Try the books. Ohmegooosh.
8zab
The books are amazing! Especially the first one. I was disappointed once I played the game and saw how Khan was in it though lol
IamCommanderShepardAndThisIsMyFavouriteStoreOnTheCitadel
Yeah, the second one wasn´t very good IMO. But the first one... HHNNNGGHH
energ1ze
+ METRO Last Light.
Moan2
Im thinking of getting the redux versions of both, is it worth it?
energ1ze
I just picked it up the other day. Im still playing 2033 redux but its a definite visual improvemente. Has a new mode also.
chriswihu
i would say yes, i am playing both and with the gritty world that 4A creates i fell in love with Metro once more
Wylf
Metro 2033 redux? Definitely worth it, for the customizable guns alone. Last light? If you have the original.. nah, not really.
Moan2
And if I don't have the original version of last light(or 2033)?
Wylf
games itself are great. Metro 2033 I'd buy in redux, last light depends on you. Both cost the same on steam, buy what you like. (end)
Wylf
Buy both. I personally like the original last light graphics a bit more from what I've seen (the redux seems a lot brighter), but the (1)
TheTempestAlmighty
I spy a pair of Adidas track pants...
Arcade
The only true way to confirm it is in fact Russia.
ThatGuy112
Why is it stereotypical for Eastern Europeans to wear track pants?
DirtyMclean
People who dress like that are often with criminal attitude. They are also called "Urlas"
khora
Take a photo of the general public anywhere in the world and the three stripes show up.
kernany
Not sure if literal pants or joke reference... (I searched and searched and coild not find said pants)
ImpertinentBuffoon
Second bench, behind the two girls. He has one leg crossed over the other.
TheRicM
Those girls look hot btw
WestCoastIsBestCoast
A lot of Russian girls do.
TheRicM
They kinda look Asian. Although, I know a lot of Russians look Asian though. Adidas pants guy looks Asian too. Might be their dad Lol :)
TheRicM
Also, nice username btw
HappyEngineer
Niko! My cousin!
IchitheKira
let's go bowling
TheVulgarBulgar
The level of Metro 2033 and ignorance about Eastern Europe in the comments is too damn high.
FoxyEllie
Ohhh, so that's where the pretty went. Underground. Guess it makes sense.
billiebitkiller
Yeah, everything in Russia is grey and freezing. Guess they must have hid the good stuff. Typical russians.
confuzzle
I take it you have never been to Russia then.
iwishiwasawhale
I was shocked by how beautiful I found Moscow, even if it was largely unkempt.
HeyFreckleFace
There, there. I'm sure you find it every day in the mirror.
MaximumBork
Another Russian underground http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01539/cave-man_1539937i.jpg
ondaheightsofdespair
10/10 would inhabit
FrogPaste
How do they preserve it so well? Does it naturally stay clean or do people clean it daily?
IdownvotePeopleWhoComplainAboutDownvoters
I wouldn't call it clean. It is filled with soviet scum..
wheresthebaby
Ppl take their rubbish and Putin in the bins.
ButterfaceTaintClown
Underground transit systems are like dreadlocks - if you leave them long enough they clean themselves.
NERDRAGEohacat
I'm pretty sure the first country to invent self-cleaning interiors will conquer the world by winning the loyalty of every man in existence.
PanderBare
It's Russia. They shoot you if you trash it.
Iwendigo
We do not question the motherland
fauxnews
It was coated with the bitter tears of the Soviet proletariat.
HUGEMELONS
Your comment is glorious
lesserknowncharacter
Subways coated with rat and homeless pee is the American way.
HylianHero93
Well you see Ivan, when you put soap bullets into Kalishnikov, it makes fun to clean.
LavaAxe
This is how you clean the accurate.
evolution4407
Looks like the Russians have a great sense of civic pride. Used to be like that in America too. Too bad that's no longer the case.
flickerdart
They keep it clean as a favor to the dogs that ride the subway.
JosephDunaravich
It's not what any normal person would call clean. That said, much cleaner than the new York subway.
stouf761
Well you see, when any janitor could be a KGB agent, everybody stays orderly and tidy.
imadogperson
Someone should tell that janitor the KGB doesn't exist anymore.
AKUUUUUUUUUUUU
Well, that's why he's a janitor now.
eggmuffin
Changed name =/= ceased to exist
nycnewyork
LOL
Thor561
KGB, FSB, potato, potahto.
lurker6
They changed their name to the FSB. New name, same great friendly service.
CoeusDarksoul
Wasn't that a James Bond quote? =P
lurker6
I heard it as a Russian anekdoty.
LordWok
This post made me laugh. do you have the first fucking clue what russia is really like? not calling them the KGB doesnt mean they dont exist
imadogperson
lol
[deleted]
[deleted]
LordWok
a rose by any other name mate.
greymouser7
There is no such thing as naturally clean. On a submarine that is cleaned 3 times every 18 hours, there is always dirt-we generate it.
greymouser7
Completely sealed environment with lots of filters and electro-static precipitators (burns oil vapors).
GasBandit
Fine for leeterink ees trip to gulag, comrade.
tetanus78
Vodka
totallyrealname
I'm assuming daily cleaning, no trains between 1 and 6. I've seen cleaners around during the day too, they keep it well maintained.
Yoshiru
The good lighting helps... legit, people are more likely to trash dark places
VodkaReindeer
The science on that is a bit iffy.
soukmania
They are constantly cleaning everything night and day here in paris and it still looks and smells like some hobo's panties.
FrogPaste
Maybe stop using hobo-panties-scented cleaner?
soukmania
I wonder why we haven't thought about this sooner... thanks for the advice!
soukmania
Our main problem is the river sometimes just a few meters above and overcrowded galleries. But still, it's a shame.
totallyrealname
That danky summer smell and people sweat. mmm.
soukmania
People sweat is a thing, but weird fungi growing everywhere on a daily basis no matter what is something much more concerning. :(
KuistiPanu
After living a year in SPb, they have tons of janitors down there and no trash cans. Somehow everyone understands that...
KuistiPanu
that the metro needs to stay clean. Earlier you couldn't even take pictures down there, since it was "strategic destination", as its also
KuistiPanu
also a a-bomb shelter. See book & game "Metro"
maggymooooo
They're incredibly protective of the stations. It's the same in St Petersberg. There are wardens on every platform to prevent littering
FrogPaste
Caption may be misleading.
bleueye
Been there.. shit's clean yo. Could've been just for 9th of Mai (liberation day) but I doubt it
Mergul
9th of May is Victory Day, yo.
bleueye
Yeah that's what I meant, sorry, it's called liberation day were I come from and we celebrate it on the 5th of may. prev comment was to say-
bleueye
that they could have cleaned it just for the festivities etc. When I was there, there were also a lot of trucks cleaning the roads so yeah.
WhatzitTooya
You have to wrestle against Putin if you get caught littering.
SeanVsInternet
How guilty would you feel dropping litter in that?
Incendria
Putin personally eats anyone who litters
JediEwok
Europe's subways would smell less like pee if they didn't charge people 2 euros to use a public toilet.
SininenHetki
The only thing that provides for are clean bathrooms. I'd honestly rather have clean sidewalks
chibbity
Hilarious and probably true.
funkmaster40
Korean ones are also this clean. A mix of good cleaning staffs and people not being assholes.
FictitiousWhale
This is in Moscow, the subway system isnt that large, so i'm guessing it's a little easier to maintain. Littering is also a huge nope there.
JosephDunaravich
The hell do you mean isn't that large? Compared to what, Tokyo?
FictitiousWhale
yea compared to larger cities lol why so much hate
JosephDunaravich
Moscow's has the most riders in the world and is 5th longest.
Mergul
http://gtoday.ru/img/metro_map.png Yo momma isn't that large, punk
FictitiousWhale
Well, I live in NYC. So that's what I'm comparing it to, punk.
Mergul
Actually, NYC Metro is 394 km long, while Moscow Metro is 325 km long...punk. So still no.
FictitiousWhale
hmm seems like you just proved my point. thank you :]
FictitiousWhale
And thanks for completely ignoring the second part of my comment, that people in Moscow are a lot cleaner and care about their surroundings.
khora
People tend to not want to be the first one soil something.
dustoftheroadswalked
It's cleaned constantly, but throwing garbage down just isn't something people normally do. There are no garbage bins in the subway btw.
JosephDunaravich
People litter in Moscow like nothing I've ever seen.
dustoftheroadswalked
Streets - yes (getting somewhat better in recent years though), subway - not really.
briefcakes
You ain't got shit on nyc e line
Mergul
What's so special about NYC E line?
IAlreadyReachedImguriteSoIDontCareAboutMyPointsAnymore
Or any MTA line
DeusExSpockina
Having been there, what you can't see in these photos is the fine layer of dirt and grime that covers everything, including the ceilings.
Snooj
Wow, even the dirt is fine? That's phat.
kendrin
I ride the metro everyday and I haven`t seen any of that
DeusExSpockina
i don't know if its better in the summer, but in the winter the stations were just grimy.
Atharaphelun
Still better than the sewage leaking into every nook and cranny of NY subway stations.
mechanimated
I lived in Minsk before I came to NYC...it is SO much fucking cleaner there. My parents had to like, brace me for the filth the first time.
Mergul
As a guy who rides the Metro to university every day, really?
DeusExSpockina
idk if it improves in the summer, but you could see footprints and scuffs that cleared away the dirt on the floor in mid-winter. 1/2
DeusExSpockina
the cars were cleaner than the stations in my experience. The nuclear fall out blast doors at the bottom of the escalators were fun too. 2/2
Mergul
Yeah, I always wondered if anybody maintains those, or if they're rusted through. I like to think they still work.
DeusExSpockina
my guess its a strategic defense so they do. who can say though?
AbusiveWankerVEVO
Ehhh... Russia has nuclear subs rusting away, think it mostly depends on who's in charge of the station.