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monkeyprotocol
Or it's not a perfect analogy and you can get special boost but still have more disadvantages overall due to things outside your control
Fastcart4
I'm a white male, why didn't I get rich parents??? Fml... This game has a glitch
notaballoon
But things like BET, women only gyms, etc., are much, MUCH younger than the inequalities between races/sexes
kiwisaurus
But Blue Shells will hit yourself if you're already 1st place. And wouldn't lightning bolts just fizzle if there's no one in front of you?
screenaholic
This man is making the important points.
notaballoon
This is just a mess. It's a nerdy, pedantic extension of the metaphor that isn't even correct
UnhelpfulAnswers
The whole point of the post is to show the metaphor isn't correct
EerieSmith
I'm new here. But if I'm following correctly, posting something that attracts the white vote will get me to the front page? Noted.
Sasqualogist
imgur bought into gamergate and all that jazz real hard
TimTamFlimFlam
Yeah let's oversimplify racism!
losviking
There are men's only gyms though...
Zath
Gay bars with weight sets don't count.
Mimsey
Are there? I've never seen one. But I've seen lots of women-only gyms, and men's country clubs sued and forced to take women.
rollercostarican
i dont think there is the same market for male only gyms, most men want women at the gym.
losviking
YMCA
goldensky
It's co-ed and has been for a long long time.
PieisKing
Herp derp
Ihmhi
In my experience they're super rare compared to the female-only gyms. And very few co-ed gyms have "men's only" hours.
FarNorthFarLeft
I think I'm on the wrong website. I've never played Mario Kart.
betsmark
Hold up. hold up. Please acknowledge that this response is saying that white, cis, males are better than everyone else. That seems messed up
VerbalSpaghetti
haha that's SJW logic though. just change the word privilege with supremacy
GavinScreaming
Actually he explicitly says he doesn't believe that and is just twisting the analogy back at the guy
LetsOveranalyzeEverything
I think people confuse nepotism and cronyism for privilege.
2CoolChris
As a brown guy, I don't need free money, help, or scholarships. I just want to be treated like an equal in everyday interactions.
PieisKing
Are you?
2CoolChris
By some people yes, by others, definitely not. Depends on the crowd I'm around/area I'm in. That's why I want to move once I can afford it.
SprinklePrincess
Not to be ignorant, but wtf is a cis?!
shallowdrown
Cis is Latin and it means the opposite of trans. In regard to gender, it means you identify as the gender you were assigned at birth.
beatlegs
goddamn there's a lot of racists at this site
JanglesTheMoonMonkee
Racism and sexism: now called social justice.
favdumpthrowaway
Now? It was called that when Charles Coughlin came up with the term Social Justice back in the 1930s. (Spoilers: He was a nazi.)
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favdumpthrowaway
1/2 The most amazing reply I saw to someone asking "what of whites being persecuted by blacks in in power in Africa then" was...
wererat2000
It's sad that I've seen several people argue that exact point... with that exact wording... I hate this planet.
TheOldNewSlowFast
A bit more than that, really, since that's more or less what our actual fucking laws are. Yeah it pisses me off.
jaxon000
The idea is that if you are on the top of the social hierarchy you don't need the same protections. It's not a hive mind it's a logic.
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jaxon000
But if a group is in power what you are referring too affects them less on a wider societal scale, this has to be thought of in groups 1/2
jaxon000
The idea is that if you are on top of the social hierarchy, then you don't need the same protections. It's not a "hive mind," it's logic.
favdumpthrowaway
2/2 "Blacks can't be racist against them, because the whites are foreigners and don't belong in those countries". The double-think is real.
MorgothsORing
+1 for double think. Just finished 1984.
Cyime
I tend to define "SJW's" as people who have their hearts in the right place but use shitty methods to achieve their goals.
Ihmhi
Check out Sargon of Akkad on YouTube, I think you'd like him.
Cyime
Already subed to him along with Armoured Skeptic and Shoe0nhead
Ihmhi
Well, there you go! Then give HarmfulOpinions a look, he's neat too! :P
deadandbloated
Yeah fuck you and your slightly inaccurate analogies too!
VulcanIsSleepy
What's up, racist ass Imgur? Haven't seen you in a while. Was beginning to think that you had fucked off.
nihilityfarce
Oh imgur. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4
watercolortitties
It never leaves, just escaped usersub due to Reddit shoving it here.
ZenjaSoba
Not this shit again.
lucky13kenny
Trolls and psuedo intellectuals
MrSpatula
Which will be the name of my autobiography.
equityforpunks
Privilege would be starting 100m ahead of others or be able to destroy/silent others with given unfair assets. No, wait, wat..
FriendlyNeighbour
in the mario cart world, privilege is, aftertaking everyones controllers for the first race, getting to start first in the next
Irishda
And then complaining that you have them their controllers back eventually, what more do they want?
StillHerFavouriteImgurian
It frightens me so many people upvote this idiocy.
ThatsMySecretImAlwaysStressed
There is a difference between equality and equity. We need to make things more equitable to help those at a disadvantage be on a more 1/2
ThatsMySecretImAlwaysStressed
even playing field 2/2
Ihmhi
How about helping poor people instead of people based on their skin color? That'd be much nicer IMO.
ThatsMySecretImAlwaysStressed
They should be helped. Statistically in some places people of certain races are more likely to be below the poverty line so they aren't 1/2
ThatsMySecretImAlwaysStressed
completely separate issues.
Ihmhi
I think they are separate issues. A rich black man is better off than a poor white man. It's not about his ethnicity, it's about money IMO.
kerisek
I'll never understand why this site tries so hard to not recognize white privilege..
goldensky
Because it's used to tell people to shut up and not participate in real discussions.
RikkUK
Maybe it's the direct implication that no white male ever has to work for anything?
LarvaLamp
Wait, there's a place where I can live free and clear of bills and have everything just given to me because I'm white? Where is this place?!
DisgruntledFerret
Because "check your privilege" is used to mean "your opinion is invalid". In that context, 'privilege' deserves no respect whatsoever.
kerisek
I'm sorry that that is your experience, but hell, hating that phrase is FAR different than denying the privilege that some people have
ProbablyDrunkAgain
Life is hard. It's harder when you whine about who is more privileged.
pepperronii
White privilege is like being pretty damn tall in a room where everything you need to lively decently is represented in cans (can of job 1/2
pepperronii
opportunities, etc) is on an unusually high shelf. The shelf designer didn't think anything was wrong with the shelf when he made it a 2/
pepperronii
Long time ago, but there are more people fighting to reach that stuff now. Now there's an authoritative super tall guy telling the other 3/
pepperronii
Tall guys to wait their turn, the short people make ladders (sometimes ladders given by AWG), & the super tall dudes are left waiting. 4/4
maximuminnovationstevejobs
Because people like to feel like they did it all with no help because they're special and smart. Privilege doesn't mean they didn't though.
TINYRIIIIICK
Because it doesn't exist....
kerisek
Ugh
TINYRIIIIICK
I know... It's tough
TINYRIIIIICK
I know... It's tough
Nobodyn0se
Notice how almost all of them are straight white males? (And I point this out as a straight white male)
poochyena
Almost like this site is primarily visited by white males...
kerisek
I'm a white guy too, I just care about my fellow countrymen and women
Nobodyn0se
Me too. But unfortunately, many of our demographic think everyone's lives are like theirs.
motorwaffle
Being sick of bad analogies and lectures doesn't mean we don't recognize it.
kerisek
If you think its about being lectured try having friends who are afraid of the police just because of their skin color. then you might care
motorwaffle
No one is claiming we have it worse. This is the shit I'm talking about, no one has said anything to that effect (1/2)
motorwaffle
Yet you are still taking it upon yourself to reprimand us for it. (1/2)
OhDavidMyNacho
Which friends and where? as a brown man living in predominantly white and ethnic neighborhoods. no fear from cops.
tammyfromthelibrary
I thought "white privilege" some BS only young liberal college students believed.
EarendilTheBlessed
i don't believe in white privilege I believe in socio economic privilege that hurts minorities but i don't think ones race matters anymore.
rollercostarican
considered exotic. Like on the show master of none, if there's 3 indian guys in the cast, its instantly an indian show -2
rollercostarican
regardless of the content of the show, its automatically tossed into the niche market bin. -3
rollercostarican
it does, it different contexts, for something is predominantly white its normal. When something is predominately something else it's -1
EarendilTheBlessed
the fact of the matter though would be the other way around n a country like india which is perfectly fine because indians are the majority
rollercostarican
correct, but if you were to argue that there's indian privilege in India, how much of a fight do you think you would get?
rollercostarican
to negative stereotyping,i think some demographics are more easily negatively stereotyped than others.Some arent always representing a ppl-3
EarendilTheBlessed
i think you picked a poor example because it if was how i said in india I honestly would not care about that and understand why it is that.
rollercostarican
it know it doesn't sound like a huge deal on its surface, but it does extend beyond that in different scenarios,specifically when it comes-2
AstroPaul
Because most people here are straight white dudes who don't like having to face the fact that it's an advantage, simply due to history.
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maximuminnovationstevejobs
Who is actually insulting you though? And as a white guy, I can take a bit of racial humor because I'm not oppressed nor a lil bitch
ahmagahd
Are you actually insulted or do you only feel that way because you expect it to be meant as insulting?
GavinScreaming
I'm never actually offended and more like "lol are you actually trying to offend me, you petty fuck?"
ahmagahd
Obvioulsy there are a lot of douche bags who actually mean to insult you, but most don't do that.
poochyena
how is being white an advantage in life?
PieisKing
Because we won the world the last time someone could win the world.
poochyena
what does that even mean
PieisKing
Then the British empire took power creating America, Australia and controlling numerous other countries such as India. Then America Cont.
PieisKing
Declared independence. Became a global power along with Germany and the rest is a history of world wars. That's what it means.
PieisKing
12-14th century Genghis Kahn enslaved and controlled most of Asia and Russia.15-17th century the Spanish empire was in control. Cont.
iamnotanigerianprince
It's the negative connotations I dispute. Yes, it's better to be white in a white country. Why is that meant to be a problem?
AstroPaul
Because why should it be? There's nothing actually special about skin colour that should afford you greater opportunities.
flapperfemmefatale
Shouldn't=/= doesn't.
iamnotanigerianprince
Because a country belongs to its people. If those people are white, it follows that being white is a pre-requisite.
lingftw
lolol after our discussion I see you write this lolol
iamnotanigerianprince
What discussion?
kerisek
so you recognize that it's there but you just dont want to do anything about it because you're white and its going well for you?
iamnotanigerianprince
people, it's unjust to then come along and demand they open it to everyone.
kerisek
That is a ridiculous thing to say. Chinese citizens are chinese just as black americans are american citizens...
iamnotanigerianprince
Citizenship is a spurious concept. A piece of paper does not change who and what you are.
OhDavidMyNacho
I'm brown and it's going well for me. AND I'm in utah and not LDS. So yeah, the victim complex is annoying. #Iamnotavictim
iamnotanigerianprince
Do you complain about Chinese privilege in China, or Jewish privilege in Israel? When a country is created by and for a particular group of
baronridiculous
Holy crap. Seriously? You're delusional.
helolse
more than one third US is non-white, so not really a "white country"
iamnotanigerianprince
It was built and founded by white people. A few disastrous demographic shifts caused by irresponsible gov't policy do not change that.
helolse
Wow. Let me guess, you vote for donald trump
iamnotanigerianprince
Wow. Let me guess, you assume everyone online is American.
LarvaLamp
No one "votes" for Donal Trump yet. There's nothing to vote for. The election is like a year away.
unscot
The concept of "White Entertainment Television" is just an act of revenge and pettiness against black culture.
Mimsey
That's the point. Because a lot of "social justice" in recent years is just revenge and pettiness against white culture.
Sprixxen
So the response to it is to be petty as well? Don't think so.
LemonFanta
There already is "White Entertainment Television". It's called "Television".
poochyena
Television isn't exclusive though.
definitelyNOTGeorgeBush
Also it would be called WET TV
WhoPaidForThisFloor
White Entertainment Television Television?
definitelyNOTGeorgeBush
Damn just realized.... +1 for the username
EroticZombiePants
Well there's already a WE TV and it's short for Women's Entertainment TV. It's like this weird mix of reality tv and law and order reruns.
RicardoVanDijke
or mAYBE the analogy doesn't work.
TK421isAFK
It does if you're a naive tumblrer that has yet to enter the adult world.
LordNoodles
Or play Mario Kart
StonesOnTheHill
Is that not what this is saying?
ElMexicutioner
It's like he didn't read it or something.
MrMelendenator
That's exactly what this is saying. Literally started with "One problem with this analogy", not idea.
eagle193
yep. I'm selling 10-foot poles in case anyone wants one.
iamnotanigerianprince
It works perfectly.
maximuminnovationstevejobs
I don't know about perfectly but I don't think most analogies are supposed to be completely perfect
AnonOmis1000
Well, to be far, even from a white, middle classed male, I find it hard to argue with the basic logic of the analogy.
Brandonxyz
Omw to go get a blue shell tatoo
DingenForester
Yeah it uhh.. Symbolizes like equality and shit
xpotatosaladx
Pics or it didn't happen
Frodoniku
Pics or it didn't happen
krahsh
I've got one too! my wife and I have matching Player 1 and Player 2 tattoos. Mine with the blue shell and hers with super stars. :D
tattoorat
Do it
IndonesianGuy
Now everyone are going to ran away from you.
ShrugLove
Username checks out.
aBastardNoLonger
All your base are belong to us.
SunshineGuardian
Tattoo* (sorry, not sorry)
BurMeezePieThawn
Already have one! It's spattered in blood and has an inscription along the rim of the shell that reads "I'm coming for you".
JCSkelton
Picture or it didn't happen
BurMeezePieThawn
SHA-BAM! Proof! http://imgur.com/sRnhPfE
RigorMortisBaby
That's badass man.
JCSkelton
Badass yo.
Frodoniku
Can i see??
BurMeezePieThawn
Of course! http://imgur.com/sRnhPfE
Frodoniku
That looks so amazing!!!
ParSpec
privilege is when Mario is the best racer because he grew up with rich parents who bought him karts and race lessons.
maximuminnovationstevejobs
Or because he's white
Faolon
Go ahead and try to tell the white people living in trailer parks how much more privileged they are than you.
maximuminnovationstevejobs
I'm white and I wasn't being serious but just because someone has it hard doesn't mean nobody has it harder
maximuminnovationstevejobs
Intersectionality says that both class and race disadvantage people. Poor blacks and whites are both disadvantaged but blacks somewhatmoreso
braidenbrock
Naww. Money has nothing to do with how life gose for you. It's all about your skin color. Said the homeless white guy.
frankgriffin
Most white people are not rich BTW. Most of the important differences cost nothing. Finish school, work 40 hours or more, no kids til ring
DisgruntledFerret
Mario doesn't even have parents! He was brought in by the stork and raised by Yoshis. It was a fun game.
LarvaLamp
Which isn't his fault, just his circumstances.
rollercostarican
Not his fault at all, it's just saying that often times advantages exist for some people
Cyranojoe
That's the key that those of us with privilege could better understand (and those who b*tch about it could better communicate/express).
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LarvaLamp
Noooooooooot really. If my parents could afford an expensive tutor, and another's live in poverty, should I offer to take a lower grade >
LarvaLamp
(2) < just to "level the playing field", or should I take what I, regardless of individual circumstances, earned?
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LarvaLamp
But if you're in a race, it's about using your advantages to win.
SenoraZorra
It's not his fault, but that doesn't mean he can't help fix the disparity.
IsaacAhhhhhhh
So he should hold back on purpose and let the others win?
SenoraZorra
Let's remember that we are talking about life in general, which is not a race like Mario Kart. You can help others without "losing".
LarvaLamp
Doesn't mean he can't- also means he doesn't _have_ to. I see nothing wrong with taking pride in being King of the Hill.
tetracycloide
If you know you're not winning fairly, even if you're not the one rigging the game, taking pride in winning is pretty shitty.
LarvaLamp
If you aren't breaking the rules, you are winning fairly. Having advantages isn't unfair by default. Cheating is.
Cyime
How would he go about "fixing" this equality?
LaZspy
Try to help others have the same opportunities he had?
Cyime
That's a nice sentiment (that I agree with) but was asking for something specific
RoomTemperatureCoffee
But giving his current competitors advantages isn't going to retroactively negate their childhood misfortunes.
likeaspurgeon
There's no such thing as a perfect analogy.
ChimneyImps
(other) relevant xkcd http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/teaching_physics.png
Typhian
At least in the game, they're all subject to the same first-place disadvantage.
KidShenck
But there are ones that don't actually say the opposite of what was intended.
theluckysuccess
http://m.quickmeme.com/img/62/62df015fb8b8bbdf4829d38a46604a4db83a88134b723cebb4ee719bd40f1094.jpg
thesunnysurf
they're like women, then. There's your analogy
diehardlance
It's like a thought with another thoughts hat on.
MinisterKai
Analogies are like sandwiches in that I'm making one now. ~ https://xkcd.com/762/
loantiburon
I feel like the lecture hall trash can one comes way closer, though.
sinbios
That's a pretty good analogy except the people at the back are mad at the system instead of waging class warfare at the people in front.
ProbablyNotASpy
The hmm?
loantiburon
The this thing: http://twentytwowords.com/what-will-you-do-with-your-privilege/
ProbablyNotASpy
The ones who made it from the back of the room were the ones who yelled "Kobe"
AnonOmis1000
Found the CS GO player.
pissinginthewind
Let imagine an analogy where the logical form between the subject matter and analogy is identical...
MarTheKhorvaireSquirrelMaster
And there you have a comparison between an item and itself, generally.
lornabird
"This thing is like... itself!"
pissinginthewind
Can a thing only have an identical logical form to itself?
lornabird
If we're saying strictly identical, I would say yes. Analogies can work if you don't carry them too far, and it ends up being -
lornabird
- "This thing is like this other thing, except in the ways it isn't at all like this other thing."
TinoFly
What the analogy doesn't take into account is that life isnt a race solely based in your skills, but also on other peoples acceptance of you
LizardEnterprises
Also luck. In fact, mostly luck.
aprendemos
You could argue that players of certain wealth/sex/skin color just have faster cars than everyone else. Maybe lightning bolts aren't so bad.
Trenalsur
Bingo.
InternalServerError
Is handling people not a skill? Why are they called social skills then? Do we call people awkward neckbeards for not having what's not real?
InternalServerError
Note: This comment was like 200 characters and it lost a bit of its sanity in the process of being shortened.
Dupr
Men of above average height are more accepted than anyone, regardless of color. Should we fight for height diversity in the workplace?
Azzreal69
You deserve Waaay more upvotes. +1.
foxfire1112
Ya this is true.
TinoFly
It doesn't matter if your first or last with a thousand blue shells if the employer won't let you play the game, solely based on ignorance
AnonOmis1000
It almost seems like this analogy is both 100% correct and 100% wrong at the same time.
GeorgieLeech
All analogies are fundamentally different in some way. Otherwise they would just be the same thing.
masterbelch
Asshole wouldn't play unless I let HIM be Player 1, fuck
LarvaLamp
I wouldn't let someone play the game soley based on thier ignorance...
AlkeneThiol
There is little evidence that most industries discriminate against anyone based on race except when it comes to white males, who are (1/2)
rollercostarican
ethnic groups or genders and don't hire certain people based off stereotypes and exclusion practices. However I might add, that in your -5
rollercostarican
such a thing is hard to actually prove without a confession or paper trail of discriminative comments,one of the things people look at are-1
rollercostarican
reflects its surroundings.Still not a great way of telling but it's one thing sometimes people look at. While i'm sorry you lost your job-3
rollercostarican
the number of qualified diverse candidates in a specific region vs the diversity make up a specific company to see if it somewhat -2
AlkeneThiol
(2/2) less valuable because they don't contribute to diversity quotas and aren't qualified for specialized funding opportunities.
AlkeneThiol
I am sure that will get me downvoted. I was also in support of affirmative action until I lost a major career opportunity for being white
AleczandraMatticen
The problem is that you think you 'lost' something that was owed to you when no such thing happened.
AlkeneThiol
How do I know? Because the lab PI told me that I was a perfect candidate, but the black female I was competing against was a minority and...
rollercostarican
opportunity, the same happens in reverse. The same way you were told it was because of diversity, people over-hear comments about certain-4
StonesOnTheHill
Yeah. The first post really doesn't explain privilege as well as many people think it does.
gatorademebinch
and by things like this i mean non-detailed, half-serious analogies that obviously dont go into depth because theyre at most a paragraph.
LemonFanta
It doesn't explain it at all. It's a weak comparison.
TheseGoToEleven
Thank you. This doesn't really explain anything to be honest, just looks like a collection of really, unrelated examples.
TheOldNewSlowFast
My reaction to the reply part of the OP:
gatorademebinch
There's a lot of reading material on the subject, and yet people always choose things like this to base their arguments against.
TheGum25
And the response further confuses things. I get what they are each saying, but not in relation to each other.
Dupr
Understanding privilege requires a 4 year degree marxist fuckery with a minor in Closed historical systems fantasy and myopic dialectics.
IsaacAhhhhhhh
Don't mock my feminist dance therapy degree shitlord
thespiantea
"We want fairness, but only for us!" -them. One should not foster exceptionalism when seeking equality.
AssBall
Who is 'them'?
lordkango
The people in the first post about the analogy. Obviously.
Winterous
It's like that comic that tries to blame men's issues on society's hatred of women. It's sexist bullshit, men's issues aren't actually 1/2
Winterous
women's issues, not everything is about women, jesus christ. Why the hell do so many people approve of that drivel? 2/2
NotFarEnough
I prefer the oversimplified analogy that 'privilege is like playing the game of life on easy mode.'
121AAD
Ya, because we should lump all white people together. Because all white people are doing fantastically well and aren't poor
Trenalsur
Thats not what white privilege means.
Cyime
Of course it isn't that would completely invalidate "white privilege" I mean maybe this is to do with wealth or class crazy thought
Trenalsur
Are you familiar with intersectionality?
Cyime
I am genuinely interested in these issues so yeah I have read up on it.
revcleo
http://thoughtcatalog.com/gina-crosley-corcoran/2014/01/explaining-white-privilege-to-a-broke-white-person/
DrStrangeBlub
1/2 I read the article and still claim bs. None if the points that this author made about that essay ring true to me and I further find it
DrStrangeBlub
2/2 offensive that just because of my skin color I am lumped in with 200 million other white purple in the US as if we are all the same.
JohnathanJacobJinglySchmidt
Right, BUT because I am a middle class, white male I have more privilege than President Obama's daughters...right?
DrStrangeBlub
"Well no because over the aggregate of white people".....shut up Meg and stop pigeon holding me to a stereotype for your political gain!
fencerman
It explains affirmative action; the response is just naive idiocy that falls back on the tired old "well if I'm in first it must be skill"
Winterous
Affirmative action? You mean literal legally enforced racial / sexual discrimination in the workplace?
Trenalsur
Doesn't affirmative action benefit white women the most?
fencerman
Tell me, if you correct a measurement for error, is that "discrimination"?
Winterous
Honestly I don't understand at all how that sentence fits with the situation.
fencerman
So you're saying every assessment of people is 100% perfect and infallible and not subject to discrimination at all.
ChaoticMarin
TIL that acknowledging the disparity of minority groups is sexist and racist. Thank you, Captain Buzzwords McRubberAndGlue.
Winterous
My understanding of affirmative action is hiring quotas. As in, requiring a certain number of employees are a certain demographic. If 1/2
Winterous
good applicants fitting that demographic aren't available to hire, it means you are being legally enforced to choose WORSE employees 2/3
Winterous
in the name of equality. That is precisely ANTI-equality; equality of opportunity, not of outcome. 3/3
TiredOfTheBS
I'm gay and my brother says shit like "why aren't there straight centers". What's a good way to explain privilege?
mechanimated
I think the best explanation is that there ARE straight centers: Every therapist or counselor ever works at a 'straight center', because /1
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mechanimated
worse. It would make no sense to make center catering to straight people because society already does that. /4
mechanimated
people problems gets you socially shunned, assaulted, fired thanks to at-will employment, inept or maliciously wrong medical care, and /3
mechanimated
it's always been acceptable to talk about straight people problems. LGBTA crisis centers exist because in many places, talking about gay /2
Winterous
Tell him something like "Because straight people don't need them. Feel free to start one, no one will join.". That said, it's not privilege.
RoomTemperatureCoffee
They do need the same sort of thing though. It's just that psychological services is already equipped to handle most straight people issues.
Sonicboomdrive
The way social justice is headed, I don't think that will be true forever.
Trenalsur
Slippery slope fallacy. Try not to engage in it.
Zath
fundies said gays will give paedos rights, muh slipry slopz, and now? Paedos pushing for respect and rights on the coattails of gay rights.
Sasqualogist
When was the last time a straight person got murdered for being straight
spelcheak
Explain that some people get special privileges like being able to go places other can't for stupid reasons like being black or straight.
Kamasu0Tra
The sad thing is that this whole "privilege" bullshit is all made up. As a white male, I cant't go to India and except privilege, can I?
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tightassedsexparrot
Although it just seems like I've stumbled upon another troll. If you aren't one, please start thinking before typing a comment
TheseGoToEleven
With regards to that, straight is the norm. We don't really need that extra support because it's accepted from the get-go.
Kamasu0Tra
Probably because privilege in this sense doesn't exist. How about India, China, or North Africa, do you think white privilege exists there?
Nown
Shockingly, a largely Western community will talk about Western countries for their examples.
Kamasu0Tra
Even then, if you look at any neighborhood that is habitated by a nonwhite majority, do you think white privilege exists there?
EerieSmith
But if you're white you're not likely to have to go to those neighborhoods if you didn't want to. You could essentially ignore them.
fencerman
Considering that merely being white in Asia is enough to get you randomly offered jobs, yes, white privilege does fucking exist there too.
Kamasu0Tra
Got a source for that, or just anecdotes?
fencerman
Source: Lived in Asia. Was randomly offered jobs everywhere i went. Or here: http://www.cnbc.com/id/37759560 Yes, it is very much real.
fencerman
That kind of automatic preferential hiring only applies to whites, and mostly just to white males. Yes, privilege is a very real thing.
fencerman
https://leilaninishime.wordpress.com/2013/12/10/white-privilege-and-racism-are-alive-in-asia/,
Fuhkyou
I fucking hate the cis thing
somethingclever941
If only we had another word for
TrueBiscuit
Don't hate cis people, they can't help what they are.
SteveCraft
What do you have against Computer Informational Systems?
CheeseIsNaturesFudge
I had an sjw call me that, I look and act like it but I'm actually trans, felt good to shut her down.
JABBATHEWOCKY
I know what you mean. It's a bummer when you realize that yours isn't the only experience that matters...
SloppyJimbo
I love it. The cis had the coolest fighters of any faction
Nadodan
They are liars traitors and puppets for the Sith
brassknucklenerd
And the ironic thing is, it's used as a tool of prejudice when the user assumes they know the bio sex and gender of the target. My sex (1)
brassknucklenerd
happens to be straightforward. My gender is, to borrow from Ron Swanson, "epic and private". (2/2)
farwall
Be trans then.
WhyAmINotASaiyan
Aw man don't say that, the confederacy of independent systems loves you!
Jokeykilla
I always think of star wars
AMFMAN
I still don't understand it lol
VictusUnus
I hate people like who who whine about it. As so many people on this site say "get a thicker skin"
septillion
Don't call cis people things
AirborneBrian
I collect words, and I hate it. Where'd that nonsensical term even come from?
gatorademebinch
You collect words?
revcleo
Science
GuardsmanMiku
thyfangysock
Stealing this for future use...
KarlHungusssss
HAHA
OnceYouGoBlackYoureInPrisonForFiveToTenYears
Well I just broke out laughing while having terrible diarrhea so thank you
GuardsmanMiku
*Evil Laughter*
nopicnoproof
Haha cis
TheOmegaMando
Lawl
InboxMeYourBassetHounds
Why can't I favorite comments
Trekker47
Well if you click the link there's a favourite heart under the image you can click.
Kattsune
Not for mobile, or at least my version of it.
saxon2060
You know rogered is mild British slang for fucked/shagged, right?
GuardsmanMiku
yeh cus i'm british, but its also what the droids say in star wars.
Kaelynath
"Fuck, Fuck."
MrRandom314159
Eh, I'm actually okay with it, so in general discussions, you don't have to be say "normal" but the using it as a slur is annoying.
shinagami091
I hate that people assume that straight white men are better than everyone else and that they need to be brought down to give other a chance
strongindependentguineapig
Why would you hate "cis"?
ChloePrice
It's not bad in theory but it really regularly is sad with such spite that it's almost becoming an insult rather than a neutral term.
constamoz
Cis is like straight. It's just a term. Off the internet, not one uses it as an insult
freyjaboo
Not true.
AreThoseMyPants
"White cis male" is used as an insult quite often, actually. Especially at feminist rallies.
ThatsAHorsePutItBack
I get called "Cis" all the time as an insult. Especially by women, yelling at me for being a man and how I oppress them by having a ween.
NotFarEnough
Yeah sure you do
shannabananaa
Whenever I hear cis or trans, I always think of organic chemistry...
ilikefoodmorethanpeople
I usually stop reading the article if the author uses the term cis
thehomosexualagenda
it literally only means not-trans. just like 'heterosexual' is opposite 'homosexual', 'cisgender' only means the opposite of 'transgender'
IllCaesar
I fucking hate people who think that "cis" is bad but don't have a problem labeling trans people.
HouseOfEvil
It's certainly an unnecessary term.
fredfnord
I assume your preferred terms are 'normal' and 'abnormal'?
madeofcancer
Can't we just choose to identify as normal and not cis and they can't mad because that's just how we identify ourselves?
shorr
Normal would make other abnormal, which tends to be labeled as bad in our society. So not that good. Your stupid helicopters aren't a thing
daclownie
I'm so happy it hasn't presented itself in my real life world yet. I'm 31, and usually communicate with my age or older. Dodging that bullet
gatorademebinch
"...German sexologist Volkmar Sigusch used the term cissexual (zissexuell in German) in a peer-reviewed publication..."
gatorademebinch
The terms cisgender and cissexual were used in the 2006 article in the Journal of Lesbian Studies and Julia Serano's 2007 book Whipping Girl
gatorademebinch
...after which the term gained some popularity among English-speaking activists and scholars."
gatorademebinch
The term originated in the 'real world'. As opposed to, i'm guessing, the internet, which wouldn't make the word less valid.
Shermanator92
I'm a straight male. Use as many descriptors for yourself as you want, but leave me at that. Don't give me another label I didn't ask for.
gatorademebinch
It just means youre not trans what's the big deal. No1 is forcing u to self identify this way or to write it on forms, it doesnt affect you.
Shermanator92
I've been in this cis debate before and it's just toxic. Why do I need to be labeled as "not trans", when that is the norm?
gatorademebinch
Idk what you mean by "this cis debate". Wtf is the debate. Should a word thats exists for decades still exist? smh
gatorademebinch
Why aren't you against the word straight for the same reason?
Shermanator92
Why do we need more labels for the same thing? It makes no sense, especially if the majority of people either don't want them or don't care.
gatorademebinch
Normal doesn't have the same definition as cissexual.
Shermanator92
There are 4 Categories: Male, Female, Trans, A. Most people are male or female, not tans or a. So yes, it is "normal" to not be trans.
IronAndGems
How do you even pronounce it?
IronAndGems
Hey, whoever downvoted me, thanks for being negative toward someone trying to better understand the concept. You're a real winner.
shorr
I'm guessing it's the "even". Gives it a different tone. But it's the same as in chemistry
freezepopsaregood
Cyst with out the t
IronAndGems
Ok that's what I assume.
MisssApple
As a female I find the whole modern feminism thing embarrassing
revcleo
Some women have been against women's rights since the suffragists and beginning of feminism.
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revcleo
Tbh trans issues call under the social justice side of intersectional feminism. Any jargon you don't understand I can explain if you want.
LiterallyYourMom
This isn't a feminist issue, it's a transgender issue.
gatorademebinch
Trans women can be feminists and feminists can be trans inclusive tho. Theres intersections.
LiterallyYourMom
Never implied it wasn't, but when you're talking about trans people you wouldn't say "it's feminism" just because some are feminists.
gatorademebinch
It's falls under the concept of intersectionality though. I wouldnt say "it's feminism" about anything. Its not that simple.
DoctorPutin
As you should if it went for the CIS the Galaxy be a much better place there wiping have been no empire and aldern would still be there us.
MrPredator
I miss the days of things being normal without this trans, genderfluid, otherkin, spiritually enlightened yet atheist nonsensical BS.
wadatahmydamie
I miss the days when foxtail buttplug wasn't a gender
LoveAtFirstAwkwardMoment
You and me both
V1K1NGFVNERAL
Spiritual but atheist isn't nonsensical. Atheism is just a lack of belief in gods. It doesn't mean no religious beliefs whatsoever.
JohnathanJacobJinglySchmidt
Isn't religion kind of defined by a higher power/god? So wouldn't a spiritual atheist be an oxymoron?
MostIndeedlySo
Spiritual to me is closer to the ideas of mental balance through meditation than a religion since meditation can be atheistic.
JohnathanJacobJinglySchmidt
Thats a legitimate question BTW, not trying to be an ass
MostIndeedlySo
If you want more philosophical views you should check Sam Harris' book "Waking Up: A Guide to spirituality without religion".
WRiVen
Well, we've labeled pretty much everything else under the sun; if we've labeled every landmark on the human body, why stop short of the mind
revcleo
In my day we didn't have a pineal gland, we just had brain bits and had done with it AND WE WERE FINE ABOUT IT
professorsquid
Um, trans people have existed since humans have existed.
aeonicentity
And we laughed at it back then too, for the same reasons.
dawnawakensyoursoul
Yeah, if you look at the ancient mayan civilization, youll see thier fur suits and mlp plushies they left behind.
exosomniac
Then, they had no resources. Now, we do. We've always existed; our social constructs are the things to have changed to allow us openness.
dawnawakensyoursoul
They didn't have animal fur?
MoriartysTeaGirl
That's not transgenderism, you cock womble...
dawnawakensyoursoul
You could be a female dog in a white males body, so in a way, yes it is. Lol
LemonFanta
Wow. It's so sad that there are this many people who think that only SUDDENLY there are gay, bi, trans, etc. people. DERP.
revcleo
It's almost like people realising what they are, and telling people, helps other people to realise what they are.
LemonFanta
Waaaaaat?!
skelekittycat
I know they were there, I'd never judge. But there's so much more of it now. The internet allows all to be heard. Sometimes that unfortunate
netharia
Sorry to inconvenience you by being different and not wanting to have to hide who we are.
LemonFanta
But that IS a judgment. This might be difficult, but try to imagine what it's like to be one of the people you're talking about.
a1a1b2
otherkin and trans are just not the same thing. the fact that people lump them together to dismiss trans activism is ridiculous. 1/2
a1a1b2
It would be like saying "I miss the days when things were normal and men weren't attracted to other men or to dragons or plants" 2/2
a1a1b2
As if being attracted to the same sex is the same as being attracted to a plant, which it is not. same goes for gender- otherkin is bs 3/3
MeganMeow
Whats wrong with trans? I'm confused
cocoakoumori
I think it's just the way people feel the need to label everyone which separates us.Well, I hope so. If they think any of this is new then..
thehomosexualagenda
'cis' is used like 'hetero' so that the only opposite for 'trans' or 'homo' isnt 'normal'. because trans and homo have existed... forever
Mcknizzle
There's no need to name it. So many damned names. It's not necessary. Just be what you want and enjoy it.
NotFarEnough
Why are you so bothered by neutral names and labels?
Mcknizzle
It's not the neutral aspect that offends me but the amount. It's baffling. Just live how you want to live, have what surgery you want to
Mcknizzle
dude or chick who had surgery because that's medical and he needs to know.
Mcknizzle
become what you want and be happy. There is no need to define every persons existence. Except to a doctor. Tell him your genetically a
WhyDoYouStoppumiMe
As a guy, who doesn't know what a cis means, what does it mean ? Is there something like those people who claim to have 4 genders?
Sonicboomdrive
"Cis" just means identifying as the gender you were born with.
thehomosexualagenda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cis%E2%80%93trans_isomerism cis is the opposite of trans in latin. it isnt SUPPOSED to be used as a slur
ThePastmaster
Cis is a psychology term in origin used to classify people that are comfortable with their birth gender. It's the opposite of transgender.
WhyDoYouStoppumiMe
So, like, shouldnt they just be called normal people ? Normal as it used to be like from the very human beginning.
LuGaroux
Normal is subjective. There are loads of normal trans people and abnormal cis people. Cis is a more specific description.
WhyDoYouStoppumiMe
At the very beginning, they reproduced, thus it was normal. Trans isnt normal by any means, but we arent jusging them, but if we say that
sittingducka
Words comes from Latin. Used in chemistry cis/trans molecular structures. Also used similar to straight/gay. Cis isn't an insult it's the 1
sittingducka
corresponding word to trans. In this case a cis person identifies with their own gender, compared to trans who don't identify with 2
sittingducka
the gender of their current body/sex. XY mutations and intersex conditions are rare very but possible in large populations over time. 3
sittingducka
In a modern medical setting you treat everyone, no matter what their gender/sex/body/chromosomes/DNA etc... is 4
Dumpstermouth
All cis means is that you are of your birth gender. literally like saying "you have brown hair".
WhyDoYouStoppumiMe
But it isn't an old world, right ? Since I haven't heard of it before, only heard of it once, and it was said as cis-scum ._.
Dumpstermouth
It's relatively new but it doesn't mean an insult, and yes, but that is the scum that is offensive, not the cis thing. kinda like how white
WhyDoYouStoppumiMe
Alright, thanks ! I don't think I will be using that word anytime soon, but I know what it means now haha :)
Dumpstermouth
isn't offensive, but if I said white-scum it is, cis as a word is merely descriptive! :)
LoveAtFirstAwkwardMoment
I know. Have you seen this season of South Park? Or the episode where Cartman pretends his trans?
sundancekid19
dis gon b gud
hobnobmacabre
It's on Comedy Central right now.
TheUltimateChimera
Haven't watched in a year or so. I'm guessing this season is really good then?
LoveAtFirstAwkwardMoment
This season is spot on about PC/social-justice-warriors and cry bullies
Fuhkyou
Yes i fucking love south park
CripplingAlcoholism
I don't even know what it means and at this point I'm too afraid to ask
CodenameLoki
Cis is short for cisgender, which is the opposite of transgender. If you're not trans, you're cis.
CripplingAlcoholism
Well that's fucking stupid. Also thank you, you're the dogs bollocks of knowing things I don't
graehall
Plenty of people misuse the cis thing, even more misuse the trans thing. It's descriptive, but using it to judge is fucking weaksauce.
starrydance
"Im going to hate you for how you were born before you can hate me before how I was!" Thats how I hear that word. Its very sad. =/
asterisk09
Dude so does the Galactic Senate.
TheAssassinArtemisEntreri
Bruh! http://imgur.com/79HNgdd
CurlyKaizer
It sounds like an insult at this point.
PiGiSpi
It's used as one in certain circles. Of course, not many people take it seriously
andrewtater
"How dare you be happy with who you are!"
BadMrFrosty
pretty sure its entire intent was to be a pejorative.
koalascanevolvetoo
Ive never heard it as anything other than an insult really...
theresgarlicinthatnebula
get off tumblr then
JohnathanJacobJinglySchmidt
I've never heard it outside here, and tumblr through here
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Well there is a real world out there with people who use it as a neutral word to describe people accurately. I'm cisgender. Deal with it.
parla
What is cis anyways, straight?
NeverTrustaHogwallop
It apparently means that you are not transgender. Aka normal
Dumpstermouth
not normal. you could be cis and a total wacko, the point is that cis simply means you are your born sex.
Dumpstermouth
gender* not sex :) my bad :p
LavoneMoltron
thank you. I honestly had no idea!
Totallynotadinosaur
Everyone is born their sex...
LuGaroux
It's just a describing word. If trans people are expected to be okay with being called insane why is cis harmful? It's just a word.
humptyblargh
The only reason this word exists is that it bothers some people to use the word 'normal' to describe people who are in fact normal.
LuGaroux
It's just a word. It's not even a negative one. If you can't handle cis then why is it ok to call trans people fucked up and insane?
humptyblargh
I've misled you, accidentally. I didn't mean that as an answer to your question 'why is cis harmful?' It's not harmful, it's just a synonym
starrydance
They are all just words, its how they are used. Any negative meant term - regardless of actual word usage - is never okay.
JohnathanJacobJinglySchmidt
I disagree onthe "never ok" part. If I tell someone they're a cockwagon, and they're being a cockwagon then its ok for me to call them on it
LuGaroux
Which is true. I don't condone insulting people because of things they can't change. Just pointing out the hypocrisy. Let's all be kind.
JohnathanJacobJinglySchmidt
I disagree onthe "never ok" part. If I tell someone they're a cockwagon, and they're being a cockwagon then its ok for me to call them on it
starrydance
Call douchcanoe out on their actions, 100%. Judging them on skin color, gender, etc. Thats being a douchcanoe.
LivingDecomposition
I feel like the word itself just sounds like an insult. I didn't know what it meant for the longest time and it just sounded negative.
TheCrustyMustard
They complain about people using their identity against them and then turn around and use people's identity against them. Hypocrites.
exosomniac
It usually is. I've had a lot of people call me a "cis asshole" for disagreeing with their anti-heterosexuality campaigns. I'm trans. :/
BadMrFrosty
LOL, the irony burns!
Jessicashtebs
Same. It's really stupid.
n0vaga5
Wow, the stupid in that situation hurts
starrydance
I've pretty much only heard it as a slur. If I see it, I can guess the rest of the statement will be against the person that is "CIS"d.
fayseman
Please inform the uninformed re: cis
dnebdal
Very generally, "trans" means "across" or "separated from" and "cis" is the opposite (near, with, unseparated from).
dnebdal
You see "trans" in many compounds, e.g. transsilvania (beyond the forest), while "cis" is mostly used for gender and chemical compounds.
SloppyJimbo
ie cistern lols
dnebdal
Nah, different roots. PIE "kista" (woven basket) led to latin "cista" and greek "kiste" (chest, box). It's cognate with "chest".
bond100
Because they use it as one
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Anyone not on tumblr does not
AnonOmis1000
Anyone not on tumblr don't know it's a term.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Not true. I've never been on tumblr but my trans/cisgender friends use it to describe someone who is not transgender on a regular basis.
DatDarthCaedus
Sweden's vice prime minister blamed "white cis men" for most of the world problems in a speech... Public TV/radio hires a group called 1/2
DatDarthCaedus
"the equality group" to find new employees, which specifically looks for non-cis people for almost all openings. Not just tumblr. 2/2
Smugglecats
That's because the majority of the time cis gets used it's in a derogatory way.
LoneBacon2
It's not? I thought it was. Well I suppose that proves your point
Sooderfed
Amen, I'm sick of this overly PC crap.
thehomosexualagenda
cis is opposite trans in the same way hetero is the opposite of homo. its not an acronym and not supposed to be a slur. just a descriptor
ChaoticMarin
It must be nice to live in a world where being inconvenienced by other people's suffering is one of your biggest problems. ROFL
Sooderfed
SUFFERING?! Really?! By being mislabelled?! Wow.
ChaoticMarin
Does the crippling dysphoria many trans people face amuse you, chucklefuck? Are you just a funny man, racking up the lulz? Forget you.
MeLlamoGroot
SJWs: "We need to fight the idea of labeling people by labeling people as many different ways as possible."
iwishjtmoneywasstillavailableitsmyoldvideogamemoniker
This is exactly what I hear when I see this shit.
Bonerhitler
Humans are obsessed with labels. We identify and codify everything we come into contact with, plants, animals and other people.
revcleo
Is there a difference in the types of labels? Please explain your views.
butimsocutelookhowcuteiam
HAHAHAHA! WELL SAID.
a1a1b2
That's BS. The reason for the word "cis" is so that people don't say "normal" to refer to people who aren't trans. It's the same as 1/2
a1a1b2
Why we have the word "straight" to refer to people who aren't lesbian/gay/etc. It's so you can speak clearly about a group of people 2/3
murklore
Straight is used because it is a synonym of normal. Normal from normalis meaning "made according to a carpenter's square"
a1a1b2
You're right, there should be a better word for it
WithPride
Doesn't change that it is what they do. I don't agree with what you're saying so you're a "insert name here". 99% is the vast majority.
WithPride
Thus it would be appropriate to call them "normal" as that is the norm. If you're offended by that, you're just insecure to be frank.
a1a1b2
Are you aware that people use the "it's abnormal/unnatural" argument to justify violence against trans people? It's insecurity to 1/2
a1a1b2
complain that the word "cis" is an insult, but it's more than that when people are talking about using "normal" for cis 2/2
a1a1b2
Without implying that they are the right ones and everyone else is abnormal 3/3
mrskeItal
Down vote if you will but so little of the population is trans that not being trans really is statistically normal
a1a1b2
irrelevant because what's really at stake is whether society should accept trans people, and that is hindered by ideas of what is normal 2/2
a1a1b2
See wheatleygone's response above. Basically, you're technically right if you consider anything uncommon abnormal, but the point is 1/2
seemetrollinh8in
How many labels are there? Cis, gay, lez, bi, fluid, pan, ect? Spoiler: it's over 50 and none of them were invented by straight white guys.
a1a1b2
False. Lesbian was first used to refer to homosexual women by Algernon Charles Swinburne (straight white male) in the 1866 poem Sapphics 1/
seemetrollinh8in
So you picked the common ones and decided to elaborate on those instead of 99% of nonsense labels.
a1a1b2
straight white males at that time) 3/3
a1a1b2
And solidified as a term for homosexual women in medical literature by 1925 (spoiler: medical literature was also written by 2/
a1a1b2
And many labels, such as homosexual, were coined already by straight white males and subsequently replaced by terms those groups preferred4/
a1a1b2
Such as gay 5/5
TheEgolessEgotist
The problem is though that we should just see each other as people and not care what they do with their genitals.
TheEgolessEgotist
Or how their genitals identify them. No men, now women. Brains driving meat sacks.
a1a1b2
If only we could! Sadly I don't think society is there yet. In the meantime we need language that accurately describes gender and sex
Thenoobsailboat
But it's such a fucking nasty word. It's almost an insult now.
a1a1b2
It was about everyone. Maybe some trans people use it as a general insult, but it really is more about that specific issue 3/3
a1a1b2
Real women, and the trans activists used the phrase "cis scum" to insult the radical feminists. People took it out of context and thought 2/
a1a1b2
I think part of the problem is that there was an in-fight between trans activists and radical feminists about whether trans women were 1/
Thenoobsailboat
Ok,so it is an insult?
Thenoobsailboat
But only for that situation?
LiterallyYourMom
Hate to break it to you but gender dysphoria is a DSM-V diagnosis. Literally "abnormal psychology". There are XXY genotypes but it's rare.
a1a1b2
Not more than by actual pathology. Also note that gender dysphoria has no organic cause, and is treated by letting people live as their 2/3
a1a1b2
desired gender, rather than by actually making the person cis 3/3
a1a1b2
I am aware that gender dysphoria is a DSM diagnosis. So was homosexuality previously. The DSM is affected by societal norms as much, if 1/2
InconsistentlyPersistent
While you are correct about the use of cis, the fact is: SJWs label EVERYTHING. Which isn't necessarily bad, but hypocritical that they 1/2
InconsistentlyPersistent
Fight to be infinitely inclusive by making hundreds of exclusive groups (cis/trans/demisexual/genderqueer/ambiguous/straight/gay/etc etc)
ymDtQG6purKz9eq
Except queer, genderqueer, genderfluid, nonbinary are all terms that imply ambiguity and aren't homogeneous.
InconsistentlyPersistent
There are hundreds more that subdivide those categories. And more are being made each day.
FourDeathSavingThrows
Found the SJW
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FourDeathSavingThrows
Case and point. Where did I ever mention that I didn't like / was scared of trans people? Fucking self-righteous SJW.
Sgtrock197
What does "cis" stand for anyway?
relevantUser95
Normal.
Obits
Oddly, I thought it meant "comfortable in skin" - and it mostly works.
bingbongbingbongbingbong
transfat and cisfat. if you aren't trans you are cis
Scubozoa
It's the opposite of trans put in place instead of the word "normal"
diehardlance
They get really pissed when you use the word normal. They get even more pissed when you point out that average on normal are same
Randomcomma
They really aren't. Different connotations.
gooffyman114
Confederacy of Independent Systems
darthangron
Was going to comment the same thing, and I'm glad someone else did for me
Sgtrock197
Star Wars? Roger Roger?
gooffyman114
Roger Roger.
KidShenck
Every time someone asks, there's someone who uses this exact same joke.
Duck4Motherland
I don't think that's exactly a bad thing. Valid opinion though
KidShenck
I don't know if it's a bad thing, but it bugs me when someone asks a genuine question, and the top-voted response is a troll. I'm a buzzkill
ClockworkArchangel13
Comfortable In Skin
INDIG0M0NKEY
Straight people who are better than everyone else (according to this analogy)
KeyokeRabbit
According to Tumblr, it means "worst people in the world, ever."
eCanada
Comfortable In Skin - as in being "comfortable in one's own skin"; no gender confusion.
thehomosexualagenda
actually, that's a backronym. just as in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cis%E2%80%93trans_isomerism cis JUST means not-trans :]
cesarsucio
Computer Information Systems
professorsquid
It doesn't stand for anything. It's the opposite of "trans" and it's just supposed to help describe the experiences of transgender people.
YourDailyAnagram
Yes it does. It's Latin for "on this side" as opposed to trans meaning "on the other side": Gallia Cisalpina "Gaul on this side of the alps"
nycterelis
"Standing" for something in this sense would imply it being an acronym, which it isn't.
Sgtrock197
that makes no sense, how would it it describe experiences of people.
Sgtrock197
i need to look into this a bit moe
Zahnradfee
professorsquid means it's just there to differenciate between people whose sex and gender match (cis = "same side") and people whose sex >
YourDailyAnagram
It's Latin for "on this side" as opposed to trans "on the other side". Rome had two provinces Gallia Cis- and Transalpina, so one part was..
ThatsAHorsePutItBack
Well, I do believe I've fucking learned something. +1
YourDailyAnagram
on "their" side of the alps, one was on the other side of the alps.
AirborneBrian
Ahaaa. Thanks
TetraCyberCat
Thank you. Geez. I know it just entered popular vernacular in the past couple of years, but it's not like someone made it up.
sirbartonslady
Nice! I'd wondered that myself. I just assumed "cis" was some transcended tumblr meme.
Bonerhitler
A lot of people do. It's actually used in some scientific fields as well. I've always heard it used to denote the regular or standard...
Bonerhitler
reaction to something, as opposed to an unusual reaction or interaction with whatever you were doing. So it's funny when people get mad.
NortheyMaclain
If a doctor professor doesn't understand it what hope do the rest of us have?!
TheGreatSarcasmo
I wouldn't trust a doctor professor that couldn't spell professor
fatchicksneedluvintoo
Computer Information Systems...I know, I majored in it in college
theluckysuccess
I know too! Cuz I dropped out of it in college!!!
SpellboundFish
1.) Cisgender people are people whose current gender identity matches the identity assigned to them at birth. It's a Latin prefix, and I
SpellboundFish
2.) believe YourDailyAnagram does a good job at explaining its origins; see their comments above mine.
freyjaboo
It's a ridiculous word concocted in the 90s by feminists. For real.
thecolonels
Wow they sure did a whole bunch of organic chemistry then.
freyjaboo
Of course the prefix was around before then you cum guzzling twat.
freyjaboo
Oh my God. Using the PREFIX of 'cis' in front of 'gender' was done in the 90s for the first time. Read a goddamn book.
thecolonels
You seem awful bitchy. Surely more whiny than any feminist I've met.
DrColdMolecule
I only know from organic chemistry
GODfreyJones
I identify myself as methane and I'm offened by your volatile comment
somethingaboutdeath
ayy cis-trans isomerism
evillar
I hate organic chem.
Jaffakiin
Don't forget your E/Z isomers m88
hashbrownsbakedpotatosfrenchfrieshomefriescheesefries
don't say that word I might start crying
ThermiteKitten
It's actually the same cis and trans as the organic chem prefixes
DrColdMolecule
Chair and sailboat?
dragongirl19101
"Cishet scum" usually meaning "idividuals who are comfortable with their gender and heterosexual in nature and I find them disgusting"
revcleo
In context it's generally more, "non-queer assholes don't know the problems queer people have, fucking scum"
dragongirl19101
"I'm also a feminazi who hates men and Christians and believe all people are blah blah blah I'm an idiot and people suck except for me"
BaconIsDelicious
This is really spot on. Have an upvote.
dragongirl19101
Did I miss anything
Sgtrock197
I don't know if you're serious or sarcastic
JustLearnedICanChangeMyUsername
What does the "-het" part come from anyway?
ThermiteKitten
It's short for heterosexual.
JustLearnedICanChangeMyUsername
Gotcha
lynx45678
Transgender means your body and gender dont match. Cisgender means that your body matches your gender. Usually used to mean "Not trans."
TheSSMorgan2015
So a normal functioning human being
Chefreign
Why does there need to be a label for that?
ThermiteKitten
The same reason we use "straight" instead of "normal"
HouseOfEvil
It's unnecessary since "man" & "woman" already mean body matches gender. You add "trans" to show when it doesn't.
channelranger
The point is to make it clear when you mean a non-trans person, since you call trans women and men women and men as well.
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cannibalturkeyburger
Not sure why this is being downvoted. It's very informative. Thank you!
takaia
No. Cis fats have a cis "angled" double bond. If you have a double bond, you can't have an saturated fat, because you're missing two H's.
Sgtrock197
ok, that make its clear for me, thank you.
INDIG0M0NKEY
Oh you mean 1st place?
Applepotamus
And your prize is a blue shell!
INDIG0M0NKEY
The only problem is if I'm in first (straight white male) I could get hit by a shell and still be in first
actualedsheeran
Normal*
NotFarEnough
Which implies transsexuals are "abnormal"...kind of why people try to use the "cis" label in the first place. Seems fair to me.
Mirawatts
Statistically trans people are not the majority, nor near equal in number. Which, by definition, makes them not of the norm.
Bletchlypark
THEY ARE ABNORMAL! That doesn't mean it's not ok to be trans but it's not freaking normal.
actualedsheeran
Except cis has become a label of extreme hate. Sooooo
Bletchlypark
Exactly just call it normal that's what it is.
Bonerhitler
As if anyone is normal. We're all just sacks of meat and mental misfires that only avoid killing each other because we try to be normal.