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racecarbedx
I did laugh when Hillary said, "we know you write books, and they all end on chapter 11"
DandyTheFuckingDandelion
My head hurts.
stealthm0de13
Australia's had like 6 Prime Ministers since this latest US presidential race started.
funnyaccepted
I'm just here in Canada watching you guys get your turn at a having a new leader, like
Mohammed1985
I watched it all. Both are bad and I wish other candidates were chosen, but man, Hillary Clinton is a filthy politician
flagbasher
TamponShotgun
Post debate Trump spokesperson speaking to hosts: "Clinton came prepared with facts but Trump won a lot of support".
thewhifflingtit
Lol, no.
JonTiller
I watched it and both candidates just said a lot of nothing.
escalinci
Hillary seemed coached to avoid too many stats and details, possibly to avoid appearing wonkish. But definitely addressed 'how' unlike Trump
escalinci
There couldn't be a clearer difference in substance and preparedness, whatever your political beliefs are.
ShaunSchaf
meanwhile the rest of the world alternates between![]()
williagr
All they did last night was reaffirm my belief that I probably have something better to do on November 8th anyway.
clausext
It was the best debate, believe me. Tremendous, really beautiful, I tell you. It's unbelievable, I say it's unbelievable how great it was.
analyticmonkey
I think, just the power, the debastateness, is very important to me.
ireallylovenachos
I see what you did there. +1
carebearsandstares
Very convincing.
Flakbadger
Ask anyone and they'll tell you---and that's why we need to bring the jobs back. From China, and from Mexico, and all these other places.
TheSwintonLion
It was the best debate, I used the best words. I probably know more about words that the dictionary. I can't believe how bigly my vocab is.
elleyea
It was HUUUUUUUGE
Crazyblueturtle
I've been debating my whole life, but did I mention my money?
yourmomsawookie
I'm giving you a lot of credit for what you did there. You made a lot of people happy, I tell you.
eggmuffin
It's amazing how the human brain works. I read that in Donald Trumps voice before I even knew where it was going.
minipancho94
for some reason i always think of foghorn leghorn when reading stuff like this.
obzervr
Well a ah say ah say ah say boy your a do doin it WRONG Murica
StooperDave
that about sums it up.
GeneralaSettlementNeedsYourHelp
Yeah it was Wonderful , I don't have the best words to describe it.
ZuLie
Who won?
Sirrussel5
Nobody is winning this election. We're all losers this day.
SoftypantsMcHuggable
I know I'm wrong but I read this as Foghorn Leghorn.
CorrelatingGIF
read that in his voice from the very beginning
marxundengels
Oh so now we don't even say his name anymore?
marxundengels
Because you know who...
Cheridum
He who shall not be named...
BeerTaxer
"He who must not be named"
LubedUpCandy
we don't want to attract it.
CorrelatingGIF
if you say "Donald Trump" 3 times in front of the bathroom mirror, the hair in your shower drain will rise up and yell racial slurs at you
SombreroWieldingLawmaker
"You are a mexico" it whispers
TheHibiscusIsMeltingAgain
Need to work "bigly" in there somewhere since it seemed to be his word of the day
runechan
Big league.
TheHibiscusIsMeltingAgain
If that's what he was saying I hope he can get the cock out of his mouth before the next debate
runechan
Keep your homophobic vitriol to yourself please.
TheHibiscusIsMeltingAgain
It was a crude way of stating he needs to work on his elocution that in no way denigrated anyone's sexual orientation 1/2
escalinci
I'd imagine he's quite pleased with the statements on raising taxes on the individuals and businesses benefiting most from the economy imo!
escalinci
And Hillary saying 'we all have to deal with implicit bias' - as long as that doesn't lead to some idea of false equivalency, quite profound
cutepiku
Honestly American elections go on way too long.
Moforina
I've watched hundreds debates trust me it was as tremendous
Jauffre
Most people don't even know the candidates policies. it could be educational to watch.
jeffreybaratheon
I still don't know Trump's.
ButtblasterMcAssmaster
He has no policies because he doesn't understand what politics actually are.
Tagoytoy
It wasn't.
thewhifflingtit
Lol. I learned that Hillary is good at this kind of debate format, but I still despise them both.
inclination64609
The candidates don't know the candidates' policies.
1mUsername
Always upvote Bernie
Shitbiscuits
Well, you stupid mother fuckers didn't vote for him, so fuck off with your 'told ya so'
privatepublic
We had our chance America! We fucking blew it, and now the U.S. might unleash an angry shaved orangutan on to the world.
zandystuff
Not blaming you, but as an 'the rest of the worldian' fucking ta, mate.
Treblaine
Trump wishes he had the gentle charisma of an Orangutan!
Orientalmongorian
I rather vote for Harambe than vote for the crazy ape any day.
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
An angry shaved orangutan in charge of the world's most powerful military..
overworkeddad
It's our country and our dooty (lol) to edumacate ourselves about who shall lead us. And so yeah it's kinda important to watch the shit show
overworkeddad
Ps I man crush do hard on bernie so hard
Nskarren
When trump said he had a a great temperament
DwithanE
I think he meant "tempura mint"
BrianCarrigg
Or when he said he didn't pay federal taxes because he's smart. Hilarious.
adultgarbage
MY BLOOD PRESSURE RISES EVERY TIME I THINK OF THIS
ANewBearANewWay
TPP would be the gold standard of trade deals. -Hiliary Clinton
jeffreybaratheon
"Would be"...and then when it was finalized she didn't like the fully negotiated version. Trump cut her off before she could explain.
ANewBearANewWay
She didn't like it till the bernie people complained about it at the DNC.
Tunaccat
*interupts clinton a million fucking times* "THAT'S A LIE I NEVER SAID THAT NOPE" holy shit dude let the corrupt woman speak.
temppol
So if I was next to you telling millions of people lies about you, you wouldn't try to stop me? Don't be a fucking numpty.
ColdBloodedSniper
She may have emails that she said were a "mistake" but trump not ever paying federal taxes is unconstitutional. So both are in wrong
SoundFuture
Meh, the Clintons use a loophole to use Federal dollars to pad the salaries and benefits of some of their charity's employees. Same vine IMO
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Starnam
So breaking the law means the person is in jail?
Cheomesh
It's worth noting that I didn't pay fed taxes last year, either, because of common write offs. My tax rate was negative.
Tunaccat
No, Clinton at least apologizes for mistakes. Trump never admits mistakes. He just changes positions and says "I always thought this way".
Tunaccat
Also for the record, I hate Clinton.
thezoolityre
He also said "that makes me smart" when she talked about him not paying taxes...so he bragged about it! Until she turned it around
CirclejerqueDuSoleil
"That makes me smart" No, it makes you a criminal. It makes you a felon. You're deliberately withholding money from the American public.
polishfreak8
He gets audited regularly. He pays the amount required, just like everyone. More an indictment of the current tax code than anything else
valen00
something he says he is going to "fix" to be even more in his favour?
SoundFuture
I haven't looked into it enough, but I know part of his proposal is getting rid of a lot of right-offs... so it "might" be to his detriment.
polishfreak8
Not saying he's the right person for the job, just pointing out that the "unconstitutional" comment is incorrect
NexiKuro
He's a real estate Mogul, iirc taxes are optional as long as his properties are somehow in the negatives or something. It's a loophole.
Cheomesh
*writeoff
NexiKuro
Right, it's been weeks since I've read about that so pardon the limited lexicon.
melodramaticbat
Wait, are there really people who thought Clinton came off as bad as Trump in those debates? What were you watching?
comfortableshoes
Americans are really in to the "false equivalency both are horrible" thing. It's easier than actually learning about their policies.
RedWineLipStain
Comments on my local news site said that Clinton did terrible because she was wearing a "commie red" outfit. Like, what??
sesamesnapsinhalf
Curious as to your whereabouts...
RedWineLipStain
east coast
joq8
Bizarre, isn't it? I'm British & just caught about 30 mins of it this morning. Trump came across as childish and woefully ill-informed. Are
joq8
His supporters swayed by anything? I thought (think) Boris Johnson's an embarrassment but fucking come on.
RyoukoSama
I was really surprised at how well she did, and the fact checking showed that she was quite factual on a majority of her statements
scruffymarcher
She usually is
ThatsWhatSheSed
When will this political post spam stop....? I +1'd this one, but my question still stands.
Zippla
I mean... today is the first debate.
RubberCatTurds
after November 8th
Zahzii
But then comes all the complains because the other shithead won.
delpharseven
8th? I thought it was first Tuesday in November? Is there also a but not if it is the first day of November clause?
RubberCatTurds
It's the Tuesday immediately after the first Monday in November.
delpharseven
Thanks. Though that's weirdly arbitrary.
skwerl
http://www.infoplease.com/askeds/election-day-first-tuesday-november.html
Armadregon
I didn't know we had the choice between two 3 year old children.
bigeasy44
I feel like you didn't watch. I saw an orange 4-year old that kept referring to whichever big groups had endorsed him & a sensible woman.
skwerl
Clinton was cool, articulate, and held her composure when Trump went off the rails. No comparison. Thanks for playing.
Classsysnek
Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich?
Kazizganthi
inaplasticcup
I just read the transcript: looks like HC had a decent handle on the debate and expressed her policies well. DT was just a fucking disaster.
RubberCatTurds
3 year old grow and mature.
Armadregon
Yeah but not these two. *Forever 3*
RubberCatTurds
No, I was implying that I'd rather have a 3 year old.
RubberCatTurds
http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/56e0f4729105841d008b5633-480/bernie-sanders.jpg
Ervaine
We get it. You want bernie for presidency
ForReasonsOfScience
confuciusman2
The one America needs, but not the one we deserve. ????
nightripper
Why, thank you. http://imgur.com/oQy5HsI
LitteralyHitler
I love you
10sky
Well hey, there's a face I can relate with on a daily basis.
shartsicle
#feelthejohnson
ForReasonsOfScience
Johnson is in favor of private prisons, private health care, private roads, the TPP, more deregulation of Wall St., against net neutrality.
shartsicle
Not entirely. He actually supports reducing our total prison footprint significantly. He has in the past supported private prisons precisely
shartsicle
because they're easier to shut down. He also supports public healthcare in the form of state block grants, so that states can compete with
shartsicle
one another and innovate on quality and quantity of care to maximize public money. As governor, he actually expanded coverage in NM. He's
ForReasonsOfScience
1/2 Johnson isn't all bad. He is in favor of legalizing cannabis (great!) and ending the drug war (fantastic!). I think he doesn't go far
ForReasonsOfScience
2/2 enough. He should advocate for legalizing, taxing, and regulating all drugs. But to be in favor of all that privatization... disastrous.
JebediahJones
Would've been nice if the moderator did some moderating instead of letting them both yell on top of each other when he asked them to stop.
HitlersArtCritic
I think thats just what people wanted to see.
thewhifflingtit
I know right? Is it that hard to just cut their mics?
HillaryClintonsEyes
If he cuts one mic, but not the other and then he's "censoring." Also the candidates are adults they should be able to control themselves.
JebediahJones
But they couldn't. Hillary specifically said "I CAN'T LET THAT STAND!" and kept yelling and I'm not sure what Trump babbled out but the 1/2
JebediahJones
result was the same.
Aelinsaar
Don't watch it. What will your watching change other than your mood and state of mind?
learningisfun
Of course you should watch it.My opinion was actually changed of Hillary. I wasn't planning on voting for her, but I appreciate how well 1/2
nametakenz
Interesting. I had the opposite experience.
learningisfun
She conducted herself and that she helped host fact checking (which should be incorporated in future debates) during the debates
bigeasy44
She also tended to stick to the questions instead of just throwing out which endorsements she's gotten & credit she got during previous jobs
Aelinsaar
I'm glad that you're not wasting your vote, but to be honest, where I live it doesn't matter in the slightest how I vote.
pudf
What else is there?
Sprixxen
It will give people information about the presidential candidates stances which seems to be lacking here.
Aelinsaar
That's because "here" is full of people who aren't old enough to vote.
ikindafail
It actually swayed me from not voting for anyone, to boring for Hillary.
utgort
My wife decided that she can not vote for either of them so qualified success.
k2viking
No, no...you should watch it all! This is what you're going to be tasked to discuss years from now when young folk ask, "So what the fuck?"
DaMummy
Lucky for us, those bastards won't live to ask, and we won't live to tell about it.
Aelinsaar
They won't be asking us, they'll be blaming us.
k2viking
So they might, but, wouldn't you still rather be able to discuss it all? You really didn't watch? It was AMAZEBALLS
InternationalPhoneticAlphabet
what's there to discuss? the water was already spilled when these two became presidential candidates.
Aelinsaar
I think you're overestimating the historical significance of this entire shit-show.
k2viking
I think you're underestimating the historical significance of this entire shit-show. But...that's alright. I think I'll go now. xx
AngryGroundhog
Right. Just be an irresponsible uninformed citizen whose opinions & believes are formed solely by your small social bubble.
Aelinsaar
Riiiight. It's either watch a televised debate, or remain utterly ignorant.
AngryGroundhog
Obviously one debate should be no one's only source of info. But we would all do well to see how our president performs under pressure.
Aelinsaar
...Because this will be the first time I've ever seen Hillary in a debate. *lol*
AngryGroundhog
Debating people of your own part is just an echo chamber. One on one with the other party's nominee is the big leagues.
RubberCatTurds
We were doing our best to act like the Mystery Science Theater robots, so my mood is quite good from watching.
amishcannoli
I tried that, but my wit couldn't keep up with the shlock...
Aelinsaar
That's not a bad coping mechanism.
ZombieJonSnow
Drinking game, every time trump says "wrong!" Or hillary does her crazy joker smile, DRINK!
SJohnson23
Are you trying to kill people?
HadMeSomeChickens
Definitely don't play a drinking game that intense unless you have healthcare.
ZombieJonSnow
I pay for my own because i dont trust the government to handle shit like this. These debates should be proof enough.
RichardDeanAnderson
As a non American.....it's pretty damn entertaining
TheCrustyMustard
It is pretty entertaining to be sure... until Trump gets the nuclear codes...
ExplosivePowderKeg
As an American, it's pretty damn soul crushing and depressing.....and entertaining after you've completely died inside.
crashdummy35
First 35 minutes were actually decent. Then, true to his nature. Trump fell apart--zero substance.
vidyagaem
really it belittled to ad hominems, jabs at each other and they both left sides open. trump did pretty darn well first half of it though.
MostOfImgurGenerallyPissesMeOff
The only thing hillary did was brag about her experience, her great "successful" not ruining america slowly experience.
crashdummy35
Serious question: Do you think what she has done was easy? The world is literally burning---no foreign diplomacy is easy right now.
attackofthequokka
Not like anyone who considers voting for Trump cares.
crashdummy35
Absolutely true. And scary.
foxhounding
So true
KalashnikovKitty
imgayur
She acts like she's being forced to run for president and I feel like I'm being forced to vote for her.
MasTequila
the more I hear trump, the more i'm ok with her.
Iaimtomisbehave
I know,
v .
noyougofuckyourself
Me. I do try. Then she says something that just makes me wonder if Canada is really as cold as I think it is.
zandystuff
Here have an upvote. As an Aussie, listening to the debate, I'm with you
ANewBearANewWay
TPP would be the gold standard of trade deals. -Hiliary Clinton
stormelemental13
Then vote Johnson!
lottahullabaloo
Doesn't he support it too?
ThatOneDidntGoThrough
There's always Gary Johnson!
BubbleGutandtheHotSnakes
your vote literally doesn't matter if that helps.
comfortableshoes
Bernie is asking you to vote for her because everything he has worked for in congress for 20 years will be ripped to shreds if you don't Ok?
ARandomGuyOnImgur
So don't vote. Please
Redeyer
Imo voting for another candidate is better than not voting at all
IAlwaysUpvoteFirefly
Gary Johnson, 2016.
privatepublic
there's others to vote for. plus our votes don't really matter for the major party candidates unless we're in a battleground state. 1/2
privatepublic
at least voting for a third party makes it so they could reach the 5% popular vote and get federal funding in the next election. 2/2
EnderEagle9
Don't pretend like your vote doesn't matter. For every person that says "Fuck it" and votes third party, another will be voting Trump.
SoundFuture
Right now they're showing that pretty even numbers of voters have run off from each party, so that's not necessarily true.
privatepublic
the electoral college has made our vote for president essentially useless in blue or red states. battleground states are where it matters.
valen00
man you guys really need preferential voting
ArgoniteTheFirst
Very much so, First Past the Post is killing us
EnderEagle9
(Some) People made the same mistake with Brexit in the UK by voting leave as a protest though not really wanting it.
GeniusesGoingWheee
Voting third party for a candidate you agree with isn't a protest. It's casting your vote for who you want to be president. Bad comparison.
Kiloverendi
They're both pretty loony. One is an unintelligent businessman and the other is a criminal who shouldn't even be allowed to run.
swimtrunks
to be fair, they are both criminals.
Kiloverendi
We're fucked either way, but I've already decided Trump, since he's a less disgusting human and I believe he'll give us the shake we need.
zandystuff
Oh fuck - go ahead and shake the human race if you have to, but be warned. I will hold you solely responsible for the consequences
Kiloverendi
I don't care.
inaplasticcup
US politics have a massive impact on other countries. I beg you, for the sake of us foreigners, don't vote for that unpredictable racist.
Kiloverendi
I don't like him at all, but I've dug enough into both candidates, and he's the lesser evil.
AlienPumaSpaceTrain
Umm. You really need to watch John Oliver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Lfd1aB9YI
Kiloverendi
I don't think it's a necessity for anyone to watch his show.
Tanishh
Dug where, Wikileaks and Fox News? Trump has assloads of unethical, questionable, if not illegal business practices while HRC has been
Tanishh
investigated by republicans numerous times and cleared every single one. But I guess you know better, right?
heynongman4pres
Well, I hope you don't live in a swing state. God speed, you beautiful idiot.
Kiloverendi
Ironic.
heynongman4pres
I'm not the one voting for an incompetent boob. I don't see the irony.
scubasteveoy
I just want it all to end already.
WhenTheBufferDropsAcid
oh, it'll end. with Uncle Donnies tiny fingers on the nuclear button.
Loosh77
Don't worry, as soon as one of them is elected, the US is going to end
ScreamingSiren
As big as a cluster fuck as I thought it would be. Almost felt bad for Lester.
sadcdccds
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AshtroBoy
No dont do it is man! We are here for you.
ForReasonsOfScience
Johnthebadger
Easy there, Ultron.
spacerocks
I saw this in the real world for the first time, yesterday!
TheDudePlayingTheDudeDisguisedAsAnotherDudeRDJ
Giant Meteor approves this bumper sticker!
HesusChristos
RulesOfImgur
Finally a canidate that can secure our future
ColonelPrestonGarvey
Err....the end to out future...?
Danishlmgurian
Hey, it promised the end of the world, and it will give you the end of the world AS WE KNOW IT!!
LautrecOfCarim
At least there would be less uncertainty.
AndyReginaldDinh
proud to fight for my fellow americans who share this attitude
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YamatoIouko
Meh. I lived through eight of GWB. I'll live through this.
ChrisThrasher
I have a feeling that there will be riots afterward. Regardless of the winner.
shmekie
The end of days is nigh
Berrycuda
SendMrBrightsideMemes
CatBlaster5000
Pretty depressing for a kids show, damn.
lordofthedice
Dark humor is still just humor. Doesn't necessarily reflect the views of the people who say it nor should it be taken seriously.
comfortableshoes
Bernie is asking you to vote for her because everything he has worked for in congress for 20 years will be ripped to shreds if you don't. K?
YarTheBug
http://imgur.com/xelS6Rq
RobertNAdams
The election, or...?
HexLHF
My cyanide pill is ready.
YamatoIouko
*takes* Quittit.
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CirclejerqueDuSoleil
Jill Stein
YamatoIouko
Gary Johnson.
JunWasHere
Is there any recourse for the public, like re-election if the turnout is too low? If not, they should look to set the precedent this year.
LazyTheAssCat
I don't care who wins. I just want a time machine. No big fancy plans, just skipping the next four years.
YamatoIouko
Go kill a Kaioshin and steal his Time Ring. >.>
LazyTheAssCat
I'm a moral law abiding man. Plus, I'd rather not piss around with the big leagues to spare myself some irritation. I'll stick to kosher 1/
LazyTheAssCat
Time travel. 2/2
Fairdinkums
Australian here, hows it going over there?
Thestalemonkey
Your wildlife is going to be leading the country.
SendMrBrightsideMemes
Keyguy
Help. Good god, please help. Just nuke us and save us from our misery.
KeyMasterVinzClortho
HighImpactSexualViolence
Begging for the sweet embrace of death has never been so mainstream.
IUpVoteDadJokes
darkladyfunk
Perfect!
CatBlaster5000
If I'm nice to the giant spiders, can we come over? Our parents are fighting.
HadMeSomeChickens
If you have some stingrays you could send us so we can end it all before the election, that would be great.
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
I'm not sure if I should head over to the border with some popcorn or pull a Russia and run to the north...
YarTheBug
I was gonna do the DebateDrinking.com drinking game. Drank 375ml whiskey in 20 minutes and crawled up to be. Apparently I spent the next (1)
YarTheBug
hour or so texting with my Iraqi friend discussing genetic engineering and the meaning of life. I remember none of that.
YarTheBug
*bed
ForReasonsOfScience
About as well as your spider eradication.
AnAppallingActOfSloth
It's the spiders trying to eradicate us, not the other way 'round
MurphybotForEveryOccasion
crikey so she's shithouse ay m8?? righty-o
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ForReasonsOfScience
Hugoduckandweaving
No Bueno. No mas, por favor.
LuckyNumber7
DUDE!!! Careful with that shit, otherwise it's the other side of the wall for you.
Fairdinkums
I'm sorry comrade.
MesserAuditore
Hey kid, are you a mexico?
Hugoduckandweaving
If I was you think my Spanish would be better?
nickrad
How do we stop this shit Australia, HALP.
nickrad
Dang Australia.. Get your sh*t together... ^_^;
Fairdinkums
*struggling to fight giant spider with boomerang* "give us a fuckin break, mate"!
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Don't ask us, we got a failed preist as prime minister once. Then there was little johnny howard sucking up to bush, etc.
TheSpeakerOfTheHouse
Also, you know how your country is sold piece by piece to corporations? It's happening here too and noone seems to care.
CheeseIsNaturesFudge
The best part is that we don't just sell our industry (RIP falcon and commodore) we sell off the land it's self.
alasaurusrex
We literally had our Environment Minister approve a mine right next to the Great Barrier Reef. We are not the people you should ask
Fairdinkums
Oh god did we?!
alasaurusrex
Not right next to but it was pretty close and a ton of ships go through the reef now
TheLifeIsYours
Oh, but it has only just begun.
MyFatBaby
If you haven't already decided who to vote for, you either haven't been paying attention or should have a lobotomy.
TheWholeBlueberryExperience
Why not both?
aalcoholism
I'll take a frontal headshot pls. Trump 2016 coming up!
Baromian
That's an option! Dear god I have my clear choice.
BimmerBoost
Oh for sure. I definitely go to IMGUR for my political news. How many people are still thinking Bernie is going to win?
stormelemental13
Yeah, fuck those people that want to see the candidates debate and are willing to keep an open mind. -_-
inclination64609
If you haven't figured out how fucking terrible they both are by now, watching these "debates" isn't going to clear anything up.
HalfIagoHalfFuManchuAllBastard
Damon straight, I'm voting for Kudos
TheNortherner
Fully agree. Voting for a criminal with bad health just seems like a bad idea.
Chivatha
give me the goddamn lobotomy then. the lesser of two idiocies is still idiocy. rather be brain dead than deal with this crap anymore.
Shewy92
Or want neither so you're writing in Bernie or Big Bird or some shit
TamponShotgun
If I don't get my toy I'll make sure that no one gets theirs either.
GeniusesGoingWheee
I will vote for who I want to and you can do the same. I'm not stealing your toy by writing in Bernies name using my own vote.
TamponShotgun
If you seriously don't get the analogy then you also don't understand the damage that write in votes do to close races. And that's typical.
GeniusesGoingWheee
I was stating that my third party/write in vote will not be out of protest, it will be because that is who I want to win, it's my right.
NekoMiko06
I'm not saying Hillary's the Devil, I'm just saying that watching tonight's debate makes me feel a little less guilty about selling my soul.
1metalnation
I have no idea which of the two evils is worse, the incompetent who won't get anything done, or the pathological liar looking for power...
karmaslap
3rd party. fuck the system.
mmmmmmShaiHulud
Trump is clearly the bigger evil He's not Hitler but definitely more Mussolini. He doesn't hate minorities but would happily hand them over-
mmmmmmShaiHulud
to internment/death camps if it kept him in power.
anubis4567
Its not Trump you have to worry about, it's his keepers. The choice is crystal clear.
ITradeNewds
what...? don't you mean hillarys keepers? she's the one that has been bought and paid for in this election
thisismyimagestoringaccount
She's been longing for that position for awhile. She's liable to do whatever she wants once elected, she'd be Teflon compared to now.
1metalnation
That's the thing I worry about. She panders endlessly because she's title hunting and has been shown to pad how much charity work she's done
thewhifflingtit
Trump is a pathological liar. Hillary is a calculated one.
melodramaticbat
Trump is literally both of those things, Hillary is essentially neither unless you're just spewing Fox BS
thynix
Perhaps this can give you more information to compare their ethics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Lfd1aB9YI
UhBell
I'm sad that this probably describes both of them
Tagoytoy
Maybe more incontinent than incompetent.
dmex
The One with a history of public service even before being in government. The One rated to have 13% lie content rather than over 50
ChewyVuitton
nobody is saying names and I still can't make out which is which from the clues!!!
sumowoman
Then you need to start paying attention.
ChewyVuitton
I am, and there is no way that either Trump or Clinton have a 13% lie content. If you think either of them do then start paying attention.
Sprixxen
Why do people buy this "not get anything done" crap? The Rs has the house and the senate. If they get the presidency and the Supreme ->
Sprixxen
Court nominations you damn well expect things will change.
Sprixxen
And if you're a progressive (social or conservative) his policy should be scaring the shit out of you.
1metalnation
I say he won't get shit done because the high up republicans are scared of him too, and enough of congress will stonewall him
Tanishh
I don't understand why HRC is the 'pathological liar' when she is actually beating Obama on politifact. Trump is doing worse on every fact
therollercoasterconducteur
Go check wikileaks today
inclination64609
She just feels pressured to lie because she's always under sniper fire.
Tanishh
checker than anyone I've ever seen. You described Trump twice.
ZRod
He also described Hillary twice
eagerophiuchus
Yeah. ...Why do we need a 21-month election season? This shit never ends.
InformalProof
At this rate I'm already late for the next election, vote Deez Nutz 2020!
UnslicedBreadisCoolToo
Parties campaign and then the candidates campaign. The govt can't tell parties they can't campaign whenever.
therollercoasterconducteur
Because money. The winner was already decided on about 22 months ago in some shady office. It's all schemes and you believe in them... Fuck
TheWholeBlueberryExperience
It's actually a 48 month election season.
Brionyrae
For Australia it's ..10 weeks? I think? Maybe less
RandomnessSlayer
Just ask yourself: What would the president do with the ability to launch nukes?
Junktrunkjunkie
I don't think that power is assigned to an individual, I think the president is a part of it, but It's not just some button on the desk.
Wombatish
It's a 'button' in a briefcase: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_football - the order is the President's alone, SoD is verification. *c
Wombatish
c* No president has been totally crazy enough to act without guidance before, sure, but that /is/ exactly the worry. And Trump's talked *c*
Wombatish
*c* about using nukes in regards to non-nuclear actors as well as not trusting the rest of the command structure. Unlikely but possible.
espressoandpostrock
As much as I dislike Trump, the thought that's he's so much of a loose cannon that he'd start launching nukes is really stupid.
inclination64609
Hillary, on the other hand, would probably sell the nukes to ISIL/ISIS, and then send in US troops to reclaim the nukes.
RandomnessSlayer
I'm not saying he would. But does he act like a man of restraint? He may threaten nukes. Please direct me to a counter-example....
YamatoIouko
Show me an example where he's done more than talk this whole election cycle?
ChewyVuitton
I agree. Its similar to the 'literally Hitler' bullshit.
YamatoIouko
"Literally Hitler" is as childish as "he's the antiChrist!" shit the conservatives did to Obama.
GeniusesGoingWheee
The president doesn't have sole ability to launch nukes
Wombatish
The order is ultimately the President's and the President's alone. It's designed to be a last-tier decision made in consort, but not req. *c
Wombatish
c* The purpose of the Secretary of Defense and the rest of the chain is to verify the identity of the President and facilitate the order.
GeniusesGoingWheee
Actually it requires a secondary confirmation under the "two man rule" by the secretary of defense.