Bernie

Feb 4, 2016 12:26 PM

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I just like this, that is all

Please feel the Bern with me

A lot of people don't realize, it's not the popular vote that wins an election, it's the 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I love these special little snowflake posts +1

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 11

Christ you guys are dumb. This site is just shitposting Bernie propaganda.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 4

Replace the people with useful idiots that are meant to be crushed.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Do Hilary and Trump supporters not post on imgur or does the collective dick sucking drown them out and downvote them?

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

This has turned from a circle jerk to a full blown gay orgy over Bernie

10 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 15

The candidate for the Lemon Party

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Jesus Christ how many times is this going to be posted.

10 years ago | Likes 87 Dislikes 16

I don't think Jesus Christ knows these things, probably eleventeen.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

eleventeen

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

If Jesus answers you, please tell him I have several questions myself

10 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 1

It's more likely I'll hear back from Satan.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

What if I'm part of the people and support Hillary?

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 12

Well, you've paid tax before, right?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

yeah?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Honest question here. You have a rep who's lied, lost top secret documentation, cost Americans so much. Why do you support her?

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 6

Then you're wrong

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

I bet if Bernie gets elected he won't be able to do all the things he wanted (presidents don't get the power you think) and you all 1/?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

will be mad and disappointed. Years past and elections will come again. You'll find a new guy to elect, with high hopes, and the same 2/?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

thing will happen. Cycle will continue. So long as we don't give presidents the power we think they have. We should be more concerned 3/4

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

about the congress. 4/4

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

How do you expect us to get to that point. One day we will reach it. For now we vote for what we believe in.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So... a criminal vs the "free" guy. I'll take option nope, kthx

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 14

Christ you guys are dumb. This site is just shitposting Bernie propaganda.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 5

It's amazing how much support you can get if you promise to give people free stuff.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 4

Fuck Hillary and Bernie. #garyjohnson2016

10 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 12

#chrischristie2016

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Who?

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

He was my man last election. *sigh*

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

The most toxic part of modern politics is the general belief that you have to tear someone else down to hold someone up.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 3

Strongly agree. I would add that the low voter turnout means campaigns focus on driving participation by convincing supporters of dire need

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's like a godless theocracy where you can't compromise with the heathens lest you sully yourself. Either worship or destroy.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Probably one of the most accurate characterizations I've ever seen

10 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 18

Either way the people get crushed

10 years ago | Likes 387 Dislikes 40

I think the point is that the collective group of supporters can evenly distribute the strain. The more of us support, the less each

10 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 10

Individual must take on

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 4

Evenly distribute the strain? I didn't Bernie was a flat tax type of guy.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

honestly flat tax would hurt the people at the top first, then the bottom, and would help most of the people in the middle.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Truth

10 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 8

how the hell do you remember your username?!

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Tell us how you really feel

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 7

He feels like repeating "politicians are all puppets" while knowing very little on the political landscape to sound smart on the internet.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 10

It's the man, man.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Actually I could care less. I don't want free government shit or infringement. The further the Feds are from me, the better.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

Then you care, if you want them away from you, then you care.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

Actually, you COULDN'T care less. This implies you do care. At least a little.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

Sodeep

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Two career socialist politicians, imagur prefers the one who's out of the closet on his socialist ideals.

10 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 16

Ha! Hillary is the shittiest socialist ever then.

10 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 5

I mean Hitler was a socialist... so... there is some competition for that title.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well that's just a complete lie...unless you mean a fascist with national socialist views is the same as a socialist democracy?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

The claim is Hilary Clinton is the shittiest socialist ever. Hitler was head of the National Socialist party. He was a socialist.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You need more school. Specifically to learn what those terms you just used actually mean. And what Hitler stood for, it seems.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You haven't a damn clue what socialism is if you think Hillary is a socialist.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

If you don't think Hillary, Obama or most elected democrats are socialists I'm afraid it's you who doesn't know what socialism is.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

On what basis do you call them socialists?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Their support of centralizing government and massively expanding social programs at the cost of the tax payer and the economy.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"At the cost of the economy" how so?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

According to the new York times, and his donor, he's being funded by one of the largest super PACs now...but yea. Feel your bern.

10 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 15

Which one?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

National Nurses United. I've only read one article so I'm not sure how truthful it is, but allegedly they most of there help was in Iowa

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

It's adorable how Bern Bros talk shit about big business campaign donations while their messiah is accepting big union money.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So after a quick Google search, I found the article you were talking about (dated Jan 28th) and several other articles refuting that claim 1

10 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 4

I believe NYT got it wrong, as per this https://theintercept.com/2016/01/29/nyt-outside-spending/ , and by another NYT article/graphic 2

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

showing super-pac spending (updated Feb 1) for Sanders at $0 super-pac spending. 3/3

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

(sorry if this got double-posted, i saw it on my comments feed but not in the actual imgur post... but still, NYT contradicting itself)

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

You can't stump the trump.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

I don't think I like this either way. Reminds me of Magic is Might.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

So... a criminal vs the "free" guy. I'll take option nope, kthx

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 13

This.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

You know people support hillary right? Like people. People voting. People

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bernie Sanders - for the folks who are too young to have voted for George McGovern.

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

I wish I had a suit like that money bag...

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bernie has killed a lot of people.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 18

Did you see him covered in blood at last nights townhall? That was a bold strategy bringing that bloody axe on stage with a 1000 yard stare

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

News polls release that Bernie is the axe murdering antichrist sent from their nightmares. Voters okay with this. Lol

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Antichrist? Please, I prefer the term enthusiast.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Why the fuck was I downvoted?

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

We get it Imgur, you like Bernie, now shut up.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

if people really cared about this then they'd have joined the Wolf-PAC and lobby for the constitutional amendment.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

"Free" is another word for someone else paid for it, in every aspect. You want free college? Expect more income taxes.

10 years ago | Likes 99 Dislikes 45

Ok

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I feel free undergrad is going to push the smart and rich to differentiate themselves by getting masters.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

A benefit of higher ed is that you differentiate yourself amongst a larger worker pool. It's just going to kick the can to the next level.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

We also probably need trades to be pushed more again instead of university degrees.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Trillions spent on a war based on lies that cost thousands of lives: *crickets*. Trillions spent on free education: *ANGRY SCREAMING MOB*

10 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 16

I actually like a big military considering it's one of the main roles of the federal govt

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You see, I'm not angry. People just confuse free as in it comes from nothing. That's all. All for education, but 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Those "lies" proved to be truths albeit not the WMD we thought they had but WMD none the less.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

...what the fuck are you talking about?

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 4

WMDs were discovered in Iraq but they were chemical weapons not nuclear.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Well Obama said we were going to pull our troops out....oh wait.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 4

We did, it went to shit after that.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Who cares, the US is in decline, we need to focus on ourselves. If they want to kill themselves that's their problem.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Decline by what standard?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Look at the US public education system compared to other countries. Not doing so well. Idk if I could trust it to work. Just like the WOD.

10 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

That's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy you have there buddy.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

WOD is a rough example, never trusted it to work. Just a money grab to me.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I'm talking about public education, refusing to fund it until it improves while it's issues could be a result of under-funding is a catch-22

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

2/2 That said I have no idea if funding is an issue for public schools, because I can't wrap my head around the US education budgets.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

The problem is, in the current system we are all paying for it anyway, just in much more inefficient ways. Not saying gov can do it better.

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This is for folks who think the funds will just appear out of nowhere, I know ppl are okay with higher taxes for education.

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And no one will see this so my point won't be clear. Let the red arrows blot out the sun!

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

I'm okay with this.

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Me too, as long as we weren't already in the teen trillions of debt. Idk if we can't support it or maintain it properly.

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My question is how much higher would taxes need to be? If they were 10% higher then in 8 years I'd have paid the equivalent of my uni debt

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I'm not okay with this.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I say make elementary students pay there way like everyone else. Start the debt clock early!

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

And? Obviously. I'm in the upper middle class, so I would pay more, but I think it's worth it to have an educated and healthy populace.

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 5

Uh sure yeah let's do it.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Yah that doesn't sound too bad, especially if the cost of insurance and school equal nil.

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Nobody is saying there won't be more taxes. If you make over $500000 a year, your taxes WILL go up.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

It's only the opponents to sanders who call his policys "free..." all others know it's "public founded"

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

I'm not an opponent. It was for people who think the funds will just appear out of thin air. Like bailout money:

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Everyone knows this. Distributing the cost is a much better system that helps the public as a whole

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anyone that dosnet understand the universal services like health care and schooling means increased taxes is dumb or biased. anyone who 1/2

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dosnt understand why they are worth it anyway is as well, AND is a douchbag.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oh and not to mention the further devaluation of the college diploma due to market saturation. Basically four more years of high school.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Or, we could close tax loopholes that allow companies like Apple to make billions of US dollars while paying unbelievably low taxes.

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Also this. Statement was made to ppl who think the funds will just come from thin air

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 12

Really. Us, with the highest industrialized corporate tax rate in the world should increase taxes for those who pay the most of the taxes.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 11

Simple solution to make everyone happy. cut the corporate tax in half, close 100% of loopholes. we get more tax revenue, and hear less bs.

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CBS, GE, and Time Warner paid no income tax in 2014. None. If "corporation" means "given legal status as a person," they should pay taxes.

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

New study out today actually shows how behind we are in corporate taxes: http://taxfoundation.org/article/how-much-do-corporations-pay-taxes

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

If we're talking about offshoring accounts and foreign reinvestments (which is all legal) but it only accounts for around 2% of the US GDP.

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They don't pay taxes on the money that is in a tax heaven. That's the problem.

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You don't see a problem with charging businesses insane rates to just be here and then make ridiculous regulations on how to operate?

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Regulations like worker rights and labor laws.. then no I don't see a problem

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That's a pretty broad question. The rates are due to things like security and at a time infrastructure. The regulations depends on which..

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Didn't some companies, for example google, get refunded more than they paid in due to loopholes and general abuse of the system?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Honest question. Do Bernie supporters believe he can win a general election or is it just worth it fighting 4 what he represents regardless?

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Fight, for the love of God fight, and maybe, one day that fight will be worth it.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If there's a year to do it, it's now. The GOP has fielded a bunch of fucking jokes.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He's made his point and that's valuable. Even if he doesn't make the office the ideas he represents are out there and have more support now.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

as a bernie supporter; why not both?

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I don't see why not.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Both, depending on the opponent. He could take on Trump, but if there is a Rubio/Kasich ticket, they carry FL and OH; all that matters.

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#ANYONEBUTTRUMP

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Almost anyone SHOULD beat trump easily. But republicans would vote for Kim Jung Un or the singer for Nickelback over any democrat.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Whoa, just noticed I capitalized nickelback and not trump. Probably an accurate reflection from my subconscious. I respect him that little.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

He basically tied Hillary in Iowa. 6% was decided on a coin flip so yeah he has a chance if people actually go and vote in the primaries.

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TIL losing by .5% is "basically a tie".

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

losing by 5 delligates while there are still 8 O'Malley need to make up their mind: Basically tied

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This question about who could win the general did not age well.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You think he would have beat Trump? Not sure how he’d defend as a ‘socialist New England Jew’ or whatever crap Trump threw at him.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I love his policies. Not sure they carry beyond strong liberals.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He would totally win in the general. He challenge is the primary. Frankly, either one of them is going to trounce any of the republicans.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

The republican field is currently so odious that a glass of milk could win the general election.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You joke, but milk is hella good for you.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Please. It's just part of the 1% like all the others. #milkjokes

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don't care if he does well in a general election - he's better than Hillary and its worth it to have an remotely honest person running

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Bernie beats the Republicans by bigger margins than Hillary. Her baggage (GoldmanSachs, email, Iraq,etc) outweights his ("omg socialism!").

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Politifact shows that that claim is not supported by the data

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both.

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Yes.

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Polls show he would beat every republican by a larger majority than hillary

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Yeah, polls show that now. Polls taken after the money machine has been turned against Bernie full force will be WILDLY different.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

But if bernie wins the primaries, wouldn't the democratic convention back him and give him money to fight the republican nominee?

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Sure, but imagine the Republican "this man is an ADMITTED SOCIALIST" ads. They'll be devastating.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

We'll see i guess. If it's an extremely conservative candidate, the moderates will decide the vote

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Republicans aren't going to vote for him. Progressive democrats will. So the question is: will the socialist label & lack of religious 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Imo that's where bernie would loose the primaries too. I think states like California and flordia will give Hilary a big push.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I really think he can beat Trump, Cruz, or Rubio. He's shown he's really good at getting out the vote, and his message is very relevant.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

both

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I would rather fight for my beliefs, then simply give up because I am told the odds are against me.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

He has a better chance in the general than Hillary. Most right-wingers are diametrically opposed to Hillary.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

If you dont ever fight on principle, then you'll never have a battle worth fighting

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm registering as a democrat just so I can vote for him in the primaries

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I switched my party from Independent to Democrat, just so I can do the same.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

that's a powerful statement

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He was close in Iowa and is a 95% victor in NH, so we will have to see what happens, but he has a good shot

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10 years ago (deleted Feb 4, 2016 6:41 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Isn't he from Vermont?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Vermont is his home state.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Living in NH and seeing how things are going now I would be surprised if he took 95% that isn't happening. He will win but not like that.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 10

I think he meant that there is a 95% chance of him winning in NH

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. He's a lock to win NH, but nobody takes 95% of the vote. That just doesn't happen.

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I'm getting downvoted because people are idiots.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

NH**

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NH**

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Omg you dont understand its not 95% of the votes its 95% he wins NBA...

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oh, well that's different. I agree that he has (more than) 95% chance to take NH. He just won't do it with 95% of the vote. Makes sense now.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He tied with Hillary. I'd say he has a pretty good chance

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He can win. If he gets the kind of turnout that Obama got, he can win. We need young people to vote.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Even if he doesn't win he can show that someone can at least be competitive without large backers. Which could inspire others.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I don't believe he has a chance. I also don't believe this country has a chance and that Rome is burning and the US is on its way out.

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rome is not burning, just moving (again). But yeah, the US as a nation has about served its purpose. It will soon be time to jump ship

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Both

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Wouldn't vote for him I wasn't confident he can win

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The point of elections is to vote for who you want to win, not for who you think is gonna win.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Every major reform seemed impossible at first.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I wonder the same about trump supporters ( fyi i currently like no candidate)

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Out of curiosity, what's your ideology?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Statistically speaking, the polls say his hardest challenge will be the current primary. The polls say he would crush the general election.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He'll win if trump gets the nomination. Let's be honest any democrat will win if trump gets the nomination

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

No they wouldn't you moron.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

dat username! +1

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I heard his message when he first started seeking the nomination. I didn't think he had a chance, but I wanted him so I started throwing 1/?

10 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

money at him. Not a lot, because I don't have a lot, but I gave what I could. I spammed up Facebook with him. I started seeing more & 2/?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

More of him. Now I think he will win the nomination & the presidency. He will win the White House because the public wants him. 3/3

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

and when (if) he does, he won't be able to do jackshit in office because your establishment wont let him. (duh)

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

i want him to win as much as you do but the fact is your country is run by the fed. period.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

For me, both.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I think he does stand a chance. You aren't going to get Republican votes anyway and what he talks about is more popular than lead to believe

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

1 - Not a supporter of anyone, but I'd say it depends who he goes against. trump/carson easy win, rubio, probably, cruz maybe. 2 - worth it

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Trump is a master of marketing and media. I wouldn't count him out yet (wish we could but...)

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'd like to think that in the (hopefully) unlikely scenario that he wins the primaries, sane people would get their shit together and vote.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's what I thought about Bush in '04

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dear god

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Honest question. Does the average american only vote for candidates likely to win?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I vote for the candidate most likely to represent my views successfully - which includes being elected. I don't vote for my ideal if 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

voting for that person will significantly increase the chances of someone opposing my views getting into office

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Age. I used to be more idealistic. Now realistic.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

if you were even a little bit realistic you'd see that the asses most likely to win have the highest chance of screwing you over

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You shouldn't fight for who you think would win you should fight for your beliefs, never know what will happen.

10 years ago | Likes 170 Dislikes 3

That's right, but sadly the current voting system is incompatible with that. If one side is segmented, the other inevitably wins.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Not always true if you live in a marginal district or a country that doesn't have proportional representation and only first past the post.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

..now compete against it. Vote for the person you want in, and others will see the higher vote and potential winner next round. (2/2)

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

If you don't vote for who you want in, you are actively making it harder for them to get in, twice. They not only lost your vote, but (1/2)

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

1/3 You can say that... but if a Republican wins the Supreme Court is going to end up majority conservative and you'll have a decade of

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 8

3/3 All because you thought making an ethical statement was more important than being as sure as possible that you could stop all of that.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 5

2/3 conservative judgments. Plus years of un-vetoed hyper-conservative law-making. Basically the country receding backwards 30 years.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

I have to say - this is where I am. I can think of few worse things than a conservative-stacked Supreme Court.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I dont know why people are downvoting us, it's basic pragmatism.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

right? unless they're conservatives but I wouldn't have thought they hang out as much on Imgur

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm gonna have to question the implicaction that Clinton has a better chance of winning the election than Sanders.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's *really* easy to convince Americans who grew up or lived during the cold war that socialism is a big scary boogie man.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well, she's weathered years of what the GOP has thrown at her, they've yet to throw anything major at Sanders

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And they're not gonna, until he wins. They want Sanders to win. Because it's easy to make him sound scary or crazy to mainstream America.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If enough people went through with this americas democratic system would be a lot more effective than the 2-party it is.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Also, you should vote for who is mostly likely to win. Since we have one and ONLY ONE vote. Casting that when there are more than two 1/?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

2/? candidates becomes tricky when you really like one but don't think they'll win.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

I see support for him all over the place. Way more than anything for Hillary

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

A year ago the vast majority would've said he stood no chance in the primaries, yet here we are

10 years ago | Likes 493 Dislikes 8

Not "would have said" but this exact thing was said. It shows how wrong the media usually is.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

very good point, sir

10 years ago | Likes 52 Dislikes 2

But to be fair, the general election is going to have quite a few more conservatives voting. And the Republicans have yet to target Sanders.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A year ago his opponent wasn't widely and indisputably considered a criminal and a liar.

10 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

And yet here she is too. Sad.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I mean he tied in one state. Not saying he doesn't have a chance but we're only one state in

10 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 3

The fact that a "crazy socialist" who is generally unknown can tie with a former secretary of state, former first lady, is a huge win.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He tied, after being consistently ignored (liberals) or berated (conservatives) by the media. That's kind of impressive.

10 years ago | Likes 49 Dislikes 0

Ignored is a VERY strong word to use.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 37

Ignored is partially true. Until a couple months ago the mainstream media was completely ignoring him. Now every paper seems to cover him.

10 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

And lost 6 delegates by coin flip

10 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

That doesn't change that it's just one state. It doesn't matter how the tie happen it was still a tie.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 7

If he had won any of the coin flips he would have been ahead in Iowa

10 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 3

Both. Iowa has proven he can hold his own in elections, and he is VASTLY more popular than any republican.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Honest answer: his chances of election are growing all the time. Regardless, it is more than worth it to fight for the beliefs!

10 years ago | Likes 61 Dislikes 5

Not sure about that. See Ralph Nader, Florida, 2000.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 5

Not sure about that. See Ralph Nader, Florida, 2000...

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 4

I agree. People won't wonder so much if he continues strong in the primaries.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

If he had an extra 6 months he'd be ahead. It's just a matter of gaining momentum and having a long enough runway for Hillary to crash on.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

General Election *salutes*

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

In all honesty the Primary is more difficult for him to win then the general. He is favored against all GOP potentials.

10 years ago | Likes 178 Dislikes 9

than*

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Those polls have rarely been predictive.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 3

Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum lead in 2012 sooooooooooooooooo

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

And Herman Cain. And Michelle Bachman. Basically anyone but the unfortunately sane John Huntsman

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

As a republican - I wish we had more to bring to the table. Sorry for the complete lack of any great candidates. Some are okay...i guess

10 years ago | Likes 51 Dislikes 5

As a moderate, Kasich is the only one who isn't a fucknugget

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

As a Conservative, out of our choices I hope Bernie wins.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Kasich seems like your best candidate, but he gets no love cause no one had heard of him.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

The moderate republicans are at the bottom dropping out :/

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm left wing as fuck, but John Kasich actually seemed like he might be a good human being, even if our politics differ on most things

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Yeah, but they either dropped out or are about to. I'm referring to Kasich and Rand.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As a democrat, I wish you had more to bring, too. Better candidates is better for everyone, regardless of side.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

As an independent, I might vote republican depending on the candidate, some of them have more complete plans than the Dems, thats all i want

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

I'm a Socialist myself, and I wish there was a good Republican candidate

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The one good candidate you guys had just suspended his campaign

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

the fact that rubio had a good showing in iowa is much better than trump imo

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Trump is a better candidate than Rubio.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Why do you think so? I'm not trying to be a dick I just want to know what you think

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I'm independent and I like Rand Paul but America apparently does not. Bernie is likely my fav

10 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Question - how can you like both Rand and Bernie? One is for small government and the other is for Uncle Sam on steroids.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I know this is stupid before I say it but, it seems like they both are less bought and paid for? Also I like when government helps 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So will you vote for whichever idiot makes it through the GOP primary just because they're Republican, or would you consider voting Dem...

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

... if there was a better person at the helm?

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I would vote for Bernie hands down against anyone currently running. I just wouldnt vote for hillary.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Hillary vs Trump, you have to vote, GO

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I support him because he's the only honest politician I've ever seen. Well, Elizabeth Warren, but she's not running, so...

10 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

I love warren! Mark ruffalo tried to get her to run. Dammit hulk

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Ron Paul is honest. I disagree with his economy completely. But he's a good man and I respect him.

10 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

If he wins the primary, it would be cool to see her as his running mate.

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

SHE IS NOW!!!

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

he actually has the legs to go the distance

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

He basically tied Hillary in Iowa. 6% was decided on a coin flip so yeah he has a chance if people actually go and vote in the primaries.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Not even 6%, it was like less than 1%

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yeah sorry about the double posting mobile was acting up. I meant .6% that period was suppose to be a decimal. I agree it's a tie but still.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

about 10 deligates out of 1684 were coinflipped, not 6%

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0