Feb 4, 2016 12:26 PM
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Please feel the Bern with me
LargePenguin
A lot of people don't realize, it's not the popular vote that wins an election, it's the 1/2
40envelopes
I love these special little snowflake posts +1
TheArseBandit
Christ you guys are dumb. This site is just shitposting Bernie propaganda.
Fplo
Replace the people with useful idiots that are meant to be crushed.
Schmedes
Do Hilary and Trump supporters not post on imgur or does the collective dick sucking drown them out and downvote them?
geiokami
This has turned from a circle jerk to a full blown gay orgy over Bernie
DickPicEnthusiast
The candidate for the Lemon Party
Voldlordemort
Jesus Christ how many times is this going to be posted.
MrWolfwood
I don't think Jesus Christ knows these things, probably eleventeen.
Somanyquestions
eleventeen
zflazeda
If Jesus answers you, please tell him I have several questions myself
It's more likely I'll hear back from Satan.
What if I'm part of the people and support Hillary?
HitlersArtCritic
Well, you've paid tax before, right?
yeah?
Honest question here. You have a rep who's lied, lost top secret documentation, cost Americans so much. Why do you support her?
MrKrabsHelloDoYouHowDo
Then you're wrong
Mogmai
I bet if Bernie gets elected he won't be able to do all the things he wanted (presidents don't get the power you think) and you all 1/?
will be mad and disappointed. Years past and elections will come again. You'll find a new guy to elect, with high hopes, and the same 2/?
thing will happen. Cycle will continue. So long as we don't give presidents the power we think they have. We should be more concerned 3/4
about the congress. 4/4
elweezle
How do you expect us to get to that point. One day we will reach it. For now we vote for what we believe in.
tuffrabit
So... a criminal vs the "free" guy. I'll take option nope, kthx
drfuzz
Sauce: http://inabeenaart.tumblr.com/post/137794061876/quick-past-inktober-sketch
jackbos
It's amazing how much support you can get if you promise to give people free stuff.
repulzz
Fuck Hillary and Bernie. #garyjohnson2016
#chrischristie2016
Iamamerman
Who?
quietlysinister
He was my man last election. *sigh*
SweetDangerKitty
The most toxic part of modern politics is the general belief that you have to tear someone else down to hold someone up.
imnicetopeopleontheinternet
Strongly agree. I would add that the low voter turnout means campaigns focus on driving participation by convincing supporters of dire need
It's like a godless theocracy where you can't compromise with the heathens lest you sully yourself. Either worship or destroy.
ThisIsNotVietnam
Probably one of the most accurate characterizations I've ever seen
manbeardbacon
Either way the people get crushed
hiimhar
I think the point is that the collective group of supporters can evenly distribute the strain. The more of us support, the less each
Individual must take on
madetheaccountjustforyou
Evenly distribute the strain? I didn't Bernie was a flat tax type of guy.
Renza0
honestly flat tax would hurt the people at the top first, then the bottom, and would help most of the people in the middle.
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Truth
NameCantBeBlank
how the hell do you remember your username?!
littleoldme
Tell us how you really feel
He feels like repeating "politicians are all puppets" while knowing very little on the political landscape to sound smart on the internet.
OneMoreLagerAndIMightLearnToLikeYa
It's the man, man.
Actually I could care less. I don't want free government shit or infringement. The further the Feds are from me, the better.
AggravatedFerret
Then you care, if you want them away from you, then you care.
murk5050
Actually, you COULDN'T care less. This implies you do care. At least a little.
Sodeep
ConstitutionalConservative
Two career socialist politicians, imagur prefers the one who's out of the closet on his socialist ideals.
OolonColuphid
Ha! Hillary is the shittiest socialist ever then.
lilcrabs
I mean Hitler was a socialist... so... there is some competition for that title.
AllTheEbola
Well that's just a complete lie...unless you mean a fascist with national socialist views is the same as a socialist democracy?
The claim is Hilary Clinton is the shittiest socialist ever. Hitler was head of the National Socialist party. He was a socialist.
You need more school. Specifically to learn what those terms you just used actually mean. And what Hitler stood for, it seems.
Withywindle508
You haven't a damn clue what socialism is if you think Hillary is a socialist.
If you don't think Hillary, Obama or most elected democrats are socialists I'm afraid it's you who doesn't know what socialism is.
On what basis do you call them socialists?
Their support of centralizing government and massively expanding social programs at the cost of the tax payer and the economy.
"At the cost of the economy" how so?
itsdubbyab
According to the new York times, and his donor, he's being funded by one of the largest super PACs now...but yea. Feel your bern.
PizzaPizzington
Which one?
AceOfSaiyan
National Nurses United. I've only read one article so I'm not sure how truthful it is, but allegedly they most of there help was in Iowa
It's adorable how Bern Bros talk shit about big business campaign donations while their messiah is accepting big union money.
blaze1984
So after a quick Google search, I found the article you were talking about (dated Jan 28th) and several other articles refuting that claim 1
I believe NYT got it wrong, as per this https://theintercept.com/2016/01/29/nyt-outside-spending/ , and by another NYT article/graphic 2
showing super-pac spending (updated Feb 1) for Sanders at $0 super-pac spending. 3/3
(sorry if this got double-posted, i saw it on my comments feed but not in the actual imgur post... but still, NYT contradicting itself)
DonaldTrumpsEgo
You can't stump the trump.
MakeTabbouleNotWar
I don't think I like this either way. Reminds me of Magic is Might.
Gubkin
This.
heyguysimtom
You know people support hillary right? Like people. People voting. People
tankboy
Bernie Sanders - for the folks who are too young to have voted for George McGovern.
Whiteguyinthesky
I wish I had a suit like that money bag...
TheNowBannedBecauseOfBullshitCommunityRulesChaoticNachos
Bernie has killed a lot of people.
ThisIsGod
Did you see him covered in blood at last nights townhall? That was a bold strategy bringing that bloody axe on stage with a 1000 yard stare
JapaneseStudentTadashii
News polls release that Bernie is the axe murdering antichrist sent from their nightmares. Voters okay with this. Lol
Antichrist? Please, I prefer the term enthusiast.
Why the fuck was I downvoted?
CountryStuffDoesAThing
We get it Imgur, you like Bernie, now shut up.
youreawesome
if people really cared about this then they'd have joined the Wolf-PAC and lobby for the constitutional amendment.
BlanchDP
"Free" is another word for someone else paid for it, in every aspect. You want free college? Expect more income taxes.
SirRancealot
Ok
DisgruntledFerret
http://1pun.ch/img/okay.gif
DrewDrawed
I feel free undergrad is going to push the smart and rich to differentiate themselves by getting masters.
A benefit of higher ed is that you differentiate yourself amongst a larger worker pool. It's just going to kick the can to the next level.
LordNoodles
We also probably need trades to be pushed more again instead of university degrees.
Piornet
Trillions spent on a war based on lies that cost thousands of lives: *crickets*. Trillions spent on free education: *ANGRY SCREAMING MOB*
I actually like a big military considering it's one of the main roles of the federal govt
You see, I'm not angry. People just confuse free as in it comes from nothing. That's all. All for education, but 1/2
joker24791
Those "lies" proved to be truths albeit not the WMD we thought they had but WMD none the less.
...what the fuck are you talking about?
WMDs were discovered in Iraq but they were chemical weapons not nuclear.
WolfgangxZ
Well Obama said we were going to pull our troops out....oh wait.
Camelspotting
We did, it went to shit after that.
Who cares, the US is in decline, we need to focus on ourselves. If they want to kill themselves that's their problem.
Decline by what standard?
Look at the US public education system compared to other countries. Not doing so well. Idk if I could trust it to work. Just like the WOD.
NexiKuro
That's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy you have there buddy.
WOD is a rough example, never trusted it to work. Just a money grab to me.
I'm talking about public education, refusing to fund it until it improves while it's issues could be a result of under-funding is a catch-22
2/2 That said I have no idea if funding is an issue for public schools, because I can't wrap my head around the US education budgets.
marikesh
The problem is, in the current system we are all paying for it anyway, just in much more inefficient ways. Not saying gov can do it better.
This is for folks who think the funds will just appear out of nowhere, I know ppl are okay with higher taxes for education.
And no one will see this so my point won't be clear. Let the red arrows blot out the sun!
DemographicUnknown
I'm okay with this.
Me too, as long as we weren't already in the teen trillions of debt. Idk if we can't support it or maintain it properly.
MorgothsORing
My question is how much higher would taxes need to be? If they were 10% higher then in 8 years I'd have paid the equivalent of my uni debt
ThatLonelyMurican
I'm not okay with this.
strongl3ad
I say make elementary students pay there way like everyone else. Start the debt clock early!
And? Obviously. I'm in the upper middle class, so I would pay more, but I think it's worth it to have an educated and healthy populace.
Uh sure yeah let's do it.
Campcirclejerk
Yah that doesn't sound too bad, especially if the cost of insurance and school equal nil.
Nobody is saying there won't be more taxes. If you make over $500000 a year, your taxes WILL go up.
bishopmuzorewa
It's only the opponents to sanders who call his policys "free..." all others know it's "public founded"
I'm not an opponent. It was for people who think the funds will just appear out of thin air. Like bailout money:
stonerlibtard
Everyone knows this. Distributing the cost is a much better system that helps the public as a whole
Skywatcher16
anyone that dosnet understand the universal services like health care and schooling means increased taxes is dumb or biased. anyone who 1/2
dosnt understand why they are worth it anyway is as well, AND is a douchbag.
PhilbertPhrog
Oh and not to mention the further devaluation of the college diploma due to market saturation. Basically four more years of high school.
RichCorinthian
Or, we could close tax loopholes that allow companies like Apple to make billions of US dollars while paying unbelievably low taxes.
Also this. Statement was made to ppl who think the funds will just come from thin air
raptar
Really. Us, with the highest industrialized corporate tax rate in the world should increase taxes for those who pay the most of the taxes.
Simple solution to make everyone happy. cut the corporate tax in half, close 100% of loopholes. we get more tax revenue, and hear less bs.
CBS, GE, and Time Warner paid no income tax in 2014. None. If "corporation" means "given legal status as a person," they should pay taxes.
New study out today actually shows how behind we are in corporate taxes: http://taxfoundation.org/article/how-much-do-corporations-pay-taxes
Relevant Forbes Article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2014/12/23/more-than-90-of-us-businesses-dont-pay-the-corporate-income-tax/
If we're talking about offshoring accounts and foreign reinvestments (which is all legal) but it only accounts for around 2% of the US GDP.
mmhtz7
They don't pay taxes on the money that is in a tax heaven. That's the problem.
You don't see a problem with charging businesses insane rates to just be here and then make ridiculous regulations on how to operate?
Regulations like worker rights and labor laws.. then no I don't see a problem
That's a pretty broad question. The rates are due to things like security and at a time infrastructure. The regulations depends on which..
Didn't some companies, for example google, get refunded more than they paid in due to loopholes and general abuse of the system?
CallahansLawRefutesEntropy
Honest question. Do Bernie supporters believe he can win a general election or is it just worth it fighting 4 what he represents regardless?
interestedofold
Fight, for the love of God fight, and maybe, one day that fight will be worth it.
grandfalloon
If there's a year to do it, it's now. The GOP has fielded a bunch of fucking jokes.
SheepusMaximus
He's made his point and that's valuable. Even if he doesn't make the office the ideas he represents are out there and have more support now.
as a bernie supporter; why not both?
Johnnyterrori
I don't see why not.
AbeFromanSausageKingOfChicago
Both, depending on the opponent. He could take on Trump, but if there is a Rubio/Kasich ticket, they carry FL and OH; all that matters.
ThngsnStuf
#ANYONEBUTTRUMP
tacoparlor
Almost anyone SHOULD beat trump easily. But republicans would vote for Kim Jung Un or the singer for Nickelback over any democrat.
Whoa, just noticed I capitalized nickelback and not trump. Probably an accurate reflection from my subconscious. I respect him that little.
Mr107
He basically tied Hillary in Iowa. 6% was decided on a coin flip so yeah he has a chance if people actually go and vote in the primaries.
TIL losing by .5% is "basically a tie".
ElGrandeBanana
losing by 5 delligates while there are still 8 O'Malley need to make up their mind: Basically tied
cantfuckwithme
This question about who could win the general did not age well.
You think he would have beat Trump? Not sure how he’d defend as a ‘socialist New England Jew’ or whatever crap Trump threw at him.
I love his policies. Not sure they carry beyond strong liberals.
brrrackobama
He would totally win in the general. He challenge is the primary. Frankly, either one of them is going to trounce any of the republicans.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
The republican field is currently so odious that a glass of milk could win the general election.
You joke, but milk is hella good for you.
Please. It's just part of the 1% like all the others. #milkjokes
holovoid
I don't care if he does well in a general election - he's better than Hillary and its worth it to have an remotely honest person running
GiantRobotsRule
Bernie beats the Republicans by bigger margins than Hillary. Her baggage (GoldmanSachs, email, Iraq,etc) outweights his ("omg socialism!").
Politifact shows that that claim is not supported by the data
m.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/27/1440343/-The-Electability-Argument-Is-Dead-All-the-Polls-Show-Bernie-Does-Better-Against-GOP-Than-Hillary
Links from that page to the actual poll results
thebjornsson
both.
bibleben10
Yes.
charlietheratking
Polls show he would beat every republican by a larger majority than hillary
FlatPlutoSociety
Yeah, polls show that now. Polls taken after the money machine has been turned against Bernie full force will be WILDLY different.
Blodgarmpls
But if bernie wins the primaries, wouldn't the democratic convention back him and give him money to fight the republican nominee?
Sure, but imagine the Republican "this man is an ADMITTED SOCIALIST" ads. They'll be devastating.
We'll see i guess. If it's an extremely conservative candidate, the moderates will decide the vote
Republicans aren't going to vote for him. Progressive democrats will. So the question is: will the socialist label & lack of religious 1/2
idkwhattomakemyussername
Imo that's where bernie would loose the primaries too. I think states like California and flordia will give Hilary a big push.
StandardDeviant
I really think he can beat Trump, Cruz, or Rubio. He's shown he's really good at getting out the vote, and his message is very relevant.
TypicalShmosby
both
thegentlemanoftheroad
I would rather fight for my beliefs, then simply give up because I am told the odds are against me.
CrazyGuyOnABike
He has a better chance in the general than Hillary. Most right-wingers are diametrically opposed to Hillary.
RobBobertyYT
If you dont ever fight on principle, then you'll never have a battle worth fighting
EightYearOldsDude
I'm registering as a democrat just so I can vote for him in the primaries
EpsilonZem
I switched my party from Independent to Democrat, just so I can do the same.
that's a powerful statement
RonMimnaugh
He was close in Iowa and is a 95% victor in NH, so we will have to see what happens, but he has a good shot
[deleted]
Isn't he from Vermont?
FlameSama1
Vermont is his home state.
justjim1013
Living in NH and seeing how things are going now I would be surprised if he took 95% that isn't happening. He will win but not like that.
I think he meant that there is a 95% chance of him winning in NH
popejubal
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. He's a lock to win NH, but nobody takes 95% of the vote. That just doesn't happen.
I'm getting downvoted because people are idiots.
NickRitchie
NH**
Omg you dont understand its not 95% of the votes its 95% he wins NBA...
Oh, well that's different. I agree that he has (more than) 95% chance to take NH. He just won't do it with 95% of the vote. Makes sense now.
He tied with Hillary. I'd say he has a pretty good chance
Paksennarionisabadass
He can win. If he gets the kind of turnout that Obama got, he can win. We need young people to vote.
jonahrah
Even if he doesn't win he can show that someone can at least be competitive without large backers. Which could inspire others.
I don't believe he has a chance. I also don't believe this country has a chance and that Rome is burning and the US is on its way out.
Rendstone
rome is not burning, just moving (again). But yeah, the US as a nation has about served its purpose. It will soon be time to jump ship
acunninglinguist
Both
MattSolotaire
Wouldn't vote for him I wasn't confident he can win
CocktailGaming
The point of elections is to vote for who you want to win, not for who you think is gonna win.
neggles
Every major reform seemed impossible at first.
GarrettSteube
I wonder the same about trump supporters ( fyi i currently like no candidate)
findlesticks
Out of curiosity, what's your ideology?
AWitlessIdiot
Statistically speaking, the polls say his hardest challenge will be the current primary. The polls say he would crush the general election.
Emrays
He'll win if trump gets the nomination. Let's be honest any democrat will win if trump gets the nomination
No they wouldn't you moron.
username20characters
dat username! +1
Homophone
I heard his message when he first started seeking the nomination. I didn't think he had a chance, but I wanted him so I started throwing 1/?
money at him. Not a lot, because I don't have a lot, but I gave what I could. I spammed up Facebook with him. I started seeing more & 2/?
More of him. Now I think he will win the nomination & the presidency. He will win the White House because the public wants him. 3/3
and when (if) he does, he won't be able to do jackshit in office because your establishment wont let him. (duh)
i want him to win as much as you do but the fact is your country is run by the fed. period.
usiris
For me, both.
AmpsterMan
I think he does stand a chance. You aren't going to get Republican votes anyway and what he talks about is more popular than lead to believe
1 - Not a supporter of anyone, but I'd say it depends who he goes against. trump/carson easy win, rubio, probably, cruz maybe. 2 - worth it
Trump is a master of marketing and media. I wouldn't count him out yet (wish we could but...)
I'd like to think that in the (hopefully) unlikely scenario that he wins the primaries, sane people would get their shit together and vote.
That's what I thought about Bush in '04
dear god
Honest question. Does the average american only vote for candidates likely to win?
I vote for the candidate most likely to represent my views successfully - which includes being elected. I don't vote for my ideal if 1/2
voting for that person will significantly increase the chances of someone opposing my views getting into office
Age. I used to be more idealistic. Now realistic.
if you were even a little bit realistic you'd see that the asses most likely to win have the highest chance of screwing you over
derock789
You shouldn't fight for who you think would win you should fight for your beliefs, never know what will happen.
BenSnow97
That's right, but sadly the current voting system is incompatible with that. If one side is segmented, the other inevitably wins.
ruskieradio
Not always true if you live in a marginal district or a country that doesn't have proportional representation and only first past the post.
ElioNope
..now compete against it. Vote for the person you want in, and others will see the higher vote and potential winner next round. (2/2)
If you don't vote for who you want in, you are actively making it harder for them to get in, twice. They not only lost your vote, but (1/2)
jsktrogdor
1/3 You can say that... but if a Republican wins the Supreme Court is going to end up majority conservative and you'll have a decade of
3/3 All because you thought making an ethical statement was more important than being as sure as possible that you could stop all of that.
2/3 conservative judgments. Plus years of un-vetoed hyper-conservative law-making. Basically the country receding backwards 30 years.
I have to say - this is where I am. I can think of few worse things than a conservative-stacked Supreme Court.
I dont know why people are downvoting us, it's basic pragmatism.
right? unless they're conservatives but I wouldn't have thought they hang out as much on Imgur
amras0000
I'm gonna have to question the implicaction that Clinton has a better chance of winning the election than Sanders.
It's *really* easy to convince Americans who grew up or lived during the cold war that socialism is a big scary boogie man.
kingpikablu
Well, she's weathered years of what the GOP has thrown at her, they've yet to throw anything major at Sanders
And they're not gonna, until he wins. They want Sanders to win. Because it's easy to make him sound scary or crazy to mainstream America.
silverfoxxflame
If enough people went through with this americas democratic system would be a lot more effective than the 2-party it is.
Krympehl
Also, you should vote for who is mostly likely to win. Since we have one and ONLY ONE vote. Casting that when there are more than two 1/?
2/? candidates becomes tricky when you really like one but don't think they'll win.
DJThuglifeSupreme
I see support for him all over the place. Way more than anything for Hillary
chadChadChadChadChadChad
A year ago the vast majority would've said he stood no chance in the primaries, yet here we are
loseit7000
Not "would have said" but this exact thing was said. It shows how wrong the media usually is.
mimomisu
very good point, sir
But to be fair, the general election is going to have quite a few more conservatives voting. And the Republicans have yet to target Sanders.
gamer2k4
A year ago his opponent wasn't widely and indisputably considered a criminal and a liar.
mastercheif
And yet here she is too. Sad.
ShitSteve0Says
I mean he tied in one state. Not saying he doesn't have a chance but we're only one state in
The fact that a "crazy socialist" who is generally unknown can tie with a former secretary of state, former first lady, is a huge win.
spuds31
He tied, after being consistently ignored (liberals) or berated (conservatives) by the media. That's kind of impressive.
Ignored is a VERY strong word to use.
freightfright
Ignored is partially true. Until a couple months ago the mainstream media was completely ignoring him. Now every paper seems to cover him.
CptnDIstraction
And lost 6 delegates by coin flip
That doesn't change that it's just one state. It doesn't matter how the tie happen it was still a tie.
If he had won any of the coin flips he would have been ahead in Iowa
Both. Iowa has proven he can hold his own in elections, and he is VASTLY more popular than any republican.
RealNormMacDonald
Honest answer: his chances of election are growing all the time. Regardless, it is more than worth it to fight for the beliefs!
omnascent
Not sure about that. See Ralph Nader, Florida, 2000.
Not sure about that. See Ralph Nader, Florida, 2000...
iamwpj
I agree. People won't wonder so much if he continues strong in the primaries.
Protean2648
If he had an extra 6 months he'd be ahead. It's just a matter of gaining momentum and having a long enough runway for Hillary to crash on.
ThatMKGuy
General Election *salutes*
fancypenguins
In all honesty the Primary is more difficult for him to win then the general. He is favored against all GOP potentials.
Peruru
than*
LimelyBishop
Those polls have rarely been predictive.
Seattlite
Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum lead in 2012 sooooooooooooooooo
And Herman Cain. And Michelle Bachman. Basically anyone but the unfortunately sane John Huntsman
andwhyisthecarpetallwetTodd
As a republican - I wish we had more to bring to the table. Sorry for the complete lack of any great candidates. Some are okay...i guess
MagicSoakingMySpine
As a moderate, Kasich is the only one who isn't a fucknugget
Fatherdoodle
As a Conservative, out of our choices I hope Bernie wins.
blitz220
Kasich seems like your best candidate, but he gets no love cause no one had heard of him.
Galactasaur
The moderate republicans are at the bottom dropping out :/
DanAykroydFanClub
I'm left wing as fuck, but John Kasich actually seemed like he might be a good human being, even if our politics differ on most things
Yeah, but they either dropped out or are about to. I'm referring to Kasich and Rand.
jrau18
As a democrat, I wish you had more to bring, too. Better candidates is better for everyone, regardless of side.
WhatsInANameMeByAnyOtherNameWouldBeJustAsLonely
As an independent, I might vote republican depending on the candidate, some of them have more complete plans than the Dems, thats all i want
DammitIHadSomethingForThis
I'm a Socialist myself, and I wish there was a good Republican candidate
Nameless301
The one good candidate you guys had just suspended his campaign
onlymade2giveupvotes
the fact that rubio had a good showing in iowa is much better than trump imo
Trump is a better candidate than Rubio.
Why do you think so? I'm not trying to be a dick I just want to know what you think
shmekie
I'm independent and I like Rand Paul but America apparently does not. Bernie is likely my fav
ImTomLincoln
Question - how can you like both Rand and Bernie? One is for small government and the other is for Uncle Sam on steroids.
I know this is stupid before I say it but, it seems like they both are less bought and paid for? Also I like when government helps 1/2
Tunisia
So will you vote for whichever idiot makes it through the GOP primary just because they're Republican, or would you consider voting Dem...
... if there was a better person at the helm?
I would vote for Bernie hands down against anyone currently running. I just wouldnt vote for hillary.
krokoschoko
Hillary vs Trump, you have to vote, GO
Peebrained
I support him because he's the only honest politician I've ever seen. Well, Elizabeth Warren, but she's not running, so...
lovesholly
I love warren! Mark ruffalo tried to get her to run. Dammit hulk
MyNameIsScotty
Ron Paul is honest. I disagree with his economy completely. But he's a good man and I respect him.
swimbikerunrepeatswimbikerunrepeatswimbiwhatwasidoing
...yet
plainoldfool
If he wins the primary, it would be cool to see her as his running mate.
Catitapillar
SHE IS NOW!!!
JediSayRelax
he actually has the legs to go the distance
tallred
Not even 6%, it was like less than 1%
Yeah sorry about the double posting mobile was acting up. I meant .6% that period was suppose to be a decimal. I agree it's a tie but still.
about 10 deligates out of 1684 were coinflipped, not 6%
LargePenguin
A lot of people don't realize, it's not the popular vote that wins an election, it's the 1/2
40envelopes
I love these special little snowflake posts +1
TheArseBandit
Christ you guys are dumb. This site is just shitposting Bernie propaganda.
Fplo
Replace the people with useful idiots that are meant to be crushed.
Schmedes
Do Hilary and Trump supporters not post on imgur or does the collective dick sucking drown them out and downvote them?
geiokami
This has turned from a circle jerk to a full blown gay orgy over Bernie
DickPicEnthusiast
The candidate for the Lemon Party
Voldlordemort
Jesus Christ how many times is this going to be posted.
MrWolfwood
I don't think Jesus Christ knows these things, probably eleventeen.
Somanyquestions
eleventeen
zflazeda
If Jesus answers you, please tell him I have several questions myself
Voldlordemort
It's more likely I'll hear back from Satan.
zflazeda
What if I'm part of the people and support Hillary?
HitlersArtCritic
Well, you've paid tax before, right?
zflazeda
yeah?
MrWolfwood
Honest question here. You have a rep who's lied, lost top secret documentation, cost Americans so much. Why do you support her?
MrKrabsHelloDoYouHowDo
Then you're wrong
Mogmai
I bet if Bernie gets elected he won't be able to do all the things he wanted (presidents don't get the power you think) and you all 1/?
Mogmai
will be mad and disappointed. Years past and elections will come again. You'll find a new guy to elect, with high hopes, and the same 2/?
Mogmai
thing will happen. Cycle will continue. So long as we don't give presidents the power we think they have. We should be more concerned 3/4
Mogmai
about the congress. 4/4
elweezle
How do you expect us to get to that point. One day we will reach it. For now we vote for what we believe in.
tuffrabit
So... a criminal vs the "free" guy. I'll take option nope, kthx
drfuzz
Sauce: http://inabeenaart.tumblr.com/post/137794061876/quick-past-inktober-sketch
TheArseBandit
Christ you guys are dumb. This site is just shitposting Bernie propaganda.
jackbos
It's amazing how much support you can get if you promise to give people free stuff.
repulzz
Fuck Hillary and Bernie. #garyjohnson2016
geiokami
#chrischristie2016
Iamamerman
Who?
quietlysinister
He was my man last election. *sigh*
SweetDangerKitty
The most toxic part of modern politics is the general belief that you have to tear someone else down to hold someone up.
imnicetopeopleontheinternet
Strongly agree. I would add that the low voter turnout means campaigns focus on driving participation by convincing supporters of dire need
DickPicEnthusiast
It's like a godless theocracy where you can't compromise with the heathens lest you sully yourself. Either worship or destroy.
ThisIsNotVietnam
Probably one of the most accurate characterizations I've ever seen
manbeardbacon
Either way the people get crushed
hiimhar
I think the point is that the collective group of supporters can evenly distribute the strain. The more of us support, the less each
hiimhar
Individual must take on
madetheaccountjustforyou
Evenly distribute the strain? I didn't Bernie was a flat tax type of guy.
Renza0
honestly flat tax would hurt the people at the top first, then the bottom, and would help most of the people in the middle.
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Truth
NameCantBeBlank
how the hell do you remember your username?!
littleoldme
Tell us how you really feel
zflazeda
He feels like repeating "politicians are all puppets" while knowing very little on the political landscape to sound smart on the internet.
OneMoreLagerAndIMightLearnToLikeYa
It's the man, man.
manbeardbacon
Actually I could care less. I don't want free government shit or infringement. The further the Feds are from me, the better.
AggravatedFerret
Then you care, if you want them away from you, then you care.
murk5050
Actually, you COULDN'T care less. This implies you do care. At least a little.
OneMoreLagerAndIMightLearnToLikeYa
Sodeep
ConstitutionalConservative
Two career socialist politicians, imagur prefers the one who's out of the closet on his socialist ideals.
OolonColuphid
Ha! Hillary is the shittiest socialist ever then.
lilcrabs
I mean Hitler was a socialist... so... there is some competition for that title.
AllTheEbola
Well that's just a complete lie...unless you mean a fascist with national socialist views is the same as a socialist democracy?
lilcrabs
The claim is Hilary Clinton is the shittiest socialist ever. Hitler was head of the National Socialist party. He was a socialist.
AllTheEbola
You need more school. Specifically to learn what those terms you just used actually mean. And what Hitler stood for, it seems.
Withywindle508
You haven't a damn clue what socialism is if you think Hillary is a socialist.
ConstitutionalConservative
If you don't think Hillary, Obama or most elected democrats are socialists I'm afraid it's you who doesn't know what socialism is.
Withywindle508
On what basis do you call them socialists?
ConstitutionalConservative
Their support of centralizing government and massively expanding social programs at the cost of the tax payer and the economy.
Withywindle508
"At the cost of the economy" how so?
itsdubbyab
According to the new York times, and his donor, he's being funded by one of the largest super PACs now...but yea. Feel your bern.
PizzaPizzington
Which one?
AceOfSaiyan
National Nurses United. I've only read one article so I'm not sure how truthful it is, but allegedly they most of there help was in Iowa
DickPicEnthusiast
It's adorable how Bern Bros talk shit about big business campaign donations while their messiah is accepting big union money.
blaze1984
So after a quick Google search, I found the article you were talking about (dated Jan 28th) and several other articles refuting that claim 1
blaze1984
I believe NYT got it wrong, as per this https://theintercept.com/2016/01/29/nyt-outside-spending/ , and by another NYT article/graphic 2
blaze1984
showing super-pac spending (updated Feb 1) for Sanders at $0 super-pac spending. 3/3
blaze1984
(sorry if this got double-posted, i saw it on my comments feed but not in the actual imgur post... but still, NYT contradicting itself)
DonaldTrumpsEgo
You can't stump the trump.
MakeTabbouleNotWar
I don't think I like this either way. Reminds me of Magic is Might.
tuffrabit
So... a criminal vs the "free" guy. I'll take option nope, kthx
Gubkin
This.
heyguysimtom
You know people support hillary right? Like people. People voting. People
tankboy
Bernie Sanders - for the folks who are too young to have voted for George McGovern.
Whiteguyinthesky
I wish I had a suit like that money bag...
TheNowBannedBecauseOfBullshitCommunityRulesChaoticNachos
Bernie has killed a lot of people.
ThisIsGod
Did you see him covered in blood at last nights townhall? That was a bold strategy bringing that bloody axe on stage with a 1000 yard stare
JapaneseStudentTadashii
News polls release that Bernie is the axe murdering antichrist sent from their nightmares. Voters okay with this. Lol
ThisIsGod
Antichrist? Please, I prefer the term enthusiast.
TheNowBannedBecauseOfBullshitCommunityRulesChaoticNachos
Why the fuck was I downvoted?
CountryStuffDoesAThing
We get it Imgur, you like Bernie, now shut up.
youreawesome
if people really cared about this then they'd have joined the Wolf-PAC and lobby for the constitutional amendment.
BlanchDP
"Free" is another word for someone else paid for it, in every aspect. You want free college? Expect more income taxes.
SirRancealot
Ok
DisgruntledFerret
http://1pun.ch/img/okay.gif
DrewDrawed
I feel free undergrad is going to push the smart and rich to differentiate themselves by getting masters.
DrewDrawed
A benefit of higher ed is that you differentiate yourself amongst a larger worker pool. It's just going to kick the can to the next level.
LordNoodles
We also probably need trades to be pushed more again instead of university degrees.
Piornet
Trillions spent on a war based on lies that cost thousands of lives: *crickets*. Trillions spent on free education: *ANGRY SCREAMING MOB*
heyguysimtom
I actually like a big military considering it's one of the main roles of the federal govt
BlanchDP
You see, I'm not angry. People just confuse free as in it comes from nothing. That's all. All for education, but 1/2
joker24791
Those "lies" proved to be truths albeit not the WMD we thought they had but WMD none the less.
Piornet
...what the fuck are you talking about?
joker24791
WMDs were discovered in Iraq but they were chemical weapons not nuclear.
WolfgangxZ
Well Obama said we were going to pull our troops out....oh wait.
Camelspotting
We did, it went to shit after that.
WolfgangxZ
Who cares, the US is in decline, we need to focus on ourselves. If they want to kill themselves that's their problem.
Camelspotting
Decline by what standard?
BlanchDP
Look at the US public education system compared to other countries. Not doing so well. Idk if I could trust it to work. Just like the WOD.
NexiKuro
That's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy you have there buddy.
BlanchDP
WOD is a rough example, never trusted it to work. Just a money grab to me.
NexiKuro
I'm talking about public education, refusing to fund it until it improves while it's issues could be a result of under-funding is a catch-22
NexiKuro
2/2 That said I have no idea if funding is an issue for public schools, because I can't wrap my head around the US education budgets.
marikesh
The problem is, in the current system we are all paying for it anyway, just in much more inefficient ways. Not saying gov can do it better.
BlanchDP
This is for folks who think the funds will just appear out of nowhere, I know ppl are okay with higher taxes for education.
BlanchDP
And no one will see this so my point won't be clear. Let the red arrows blot out the sun!
DemographicUnknown
I'm okay with this.
BlanchDP
Me too, as long as we weren't already in the teen trillions of debt. Idk if we can't support it or maintain it properly.
MorgothsORing
My question is how much higher would taxes need to be? If they were 10% higher then in 8 years I'd have paid the equivalent of my uni debt
ThatLonelyMurican
I'm not okay with this.
strongl3ad
I say make elementary students pay there way like everyone else. Start the debt clock early!
OolonColuphid
And? Obviously. I'm in the upper middle class, so I would pay more, but I think it's worth it to have an educated and healthy populace.
JapaneseStudentTadashii
Uh sure yeah let's do it.
Campcirclejerk
Yah that doesn't sound too bad, especially if the cost of insurance and school equal nil.
Withywindle508
Nobody is saying there won't be more taxes. If you make over $500000 a year, your taxes WILL go up.
bishopmuzorewa
It's only the opponents to sanders who call his policys "free..." all others know it's "public founded"
BlanchDP
I'm not an opponent. It was for people who think the funds will just appear out of thin air. Like bailout money:
stonerlibtard
Everyone knows this. Distributing the cost is a much better system that helps the public as a whole
Skywatcher16
anyone that dosnet understand the universal services like health care and schooling means increased taxes is dumb or biased. anyone who 1/2
Skywatcher16
dosnt understand why they are worth it anyway is as well, AND is a douchbag.
PhilbertPhrog
Oh and not to mention the further devaluation of the college diploma due to market saturation. Basically four more years of high school.
RichCorinthian
Or, we could close tax loopholes that allow companies like Apple to make billions of US dollars while paying unbelievably low taxes.
BlanchDP
Also this. Statement was made to ppl who think the funds will just come from thin air
raptar
Really. Us, with the highest industrialized corporate tax rate in the world should increase taxes for those who pay the most of the taxes.
Renza0
Simple solution to make everyone happy. cut the corporate tax in half, close 100% of loopholes. we get more tax revenue, and hear less bs.
RichCorinthian
CBS, GE, and Time Warner paid no income tax in 2014. None. If "corporation" means "given legal status as a person," they should pay taxes.
raptar
New study out today actually shows how behind we are in corporate taxes: http://taxfoundation.org/article/how-much-do-corporations-pay-taxes
raptar
Relevant Forbes Article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2014/12/23/more-than-90-of-us-businesses-dont-pay-the-corporate-income-tax/
raptar
If we're talking about offshoring accounts and foreign reinvestments (which is all legal) but it only accounts for around 2% of the US GDP.
mmhtz7
They don't pay taxes on the money that is in a tax heaven. That's the problem.
raptar
You don't see a problem with charging businesses insane rates to just be here and then make ridiculous regulations on how to operate?
mmhtz7
Regulations like worker rights and labor laws.. then no I don't see a problem
mmhtz7
That's a pretty broad question. The rates are due to things like security and at a time infrastructure. The regulations depends on which..
Renza0
Didn't some companies, for example google, get refunded more than they paid in due to loopholes and general abuse of the system?
CallahansLawRefutesEntropy
Honest question. Do Bernie supporters believe he can win a general election or is it just worth it fighting 4 what he represents regardless?
interestedofold
Fight, for the love of God fight, and maybe, one day that fight will be worth it.
grandfalloon
If there's a year to do it, it's now. The GOP has fielded a bunch of fucking jokes.
SheepusMaximus
He's made his point and that's valuable. Even if he doesn't make the office the ideas he represents are out there and have more support now.
Skywatcher16
as a bernie supporter; why not both?
Johnnyterrori
I don't see why not.
AbeFromanSausageKingOfChicago
Both, depending on the opponent. He could take on Trump, but if there is a Rubio/Kasich ticket, they carry FL and OH; all that matters.
ThngsnStuf
#ANYONEBUTTRUMP
tacoparlor
Almost anyone SHOULD beat trump easily. But republicans would vote for Kim Jung Un or the singer for Nickelback over any democrat.
tacoparlor
Whoa, just noticed I capitalized nickelback and not trump. Probably an accurate reflection from my subconscious. I respect him that little.
Mr107
He basically tied Hillary in Iowa. 6% was decided on a coin flip so yeah he has a chance if people actually go and vote in the primaries.
joker24791
TIL losing by .5% is "basically a tie".
ElGrandeBanana
losing by 5 delligates while there are still 8 O'Malley need to make up their mind: Basically tied
cantfuckwithme
This question about who could win the general did not age well.
CallahansLawRefutesEntropy
You think he would have beat Trump? Not sure how he’d defend as a ‘socialist New England Jew’ or whatever crap Trump threw at him.
CallahansLawRefutesEntropy
I love his policies. Not sure they carry beyond strong liberals.
brrrackobama
He would totally win in the general. He challenge is the primary. Frankly, either one of them is going to trounce any of the republicans.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
The republican field is currently so odious that a glass of milk could win the general election.
grandfalloon
You joke, but milk is hella good for you.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Please. It's just part of the 1% like all the others. #milkjokes
holovoid
I don't care if he does well in a general election - he's better than Hillary and its worth it to have an remotely honest person running
GiantRobotsRule
Bernie beats the Republicans by bigger margins than Hillary. Her baggage (GoldmanSachs, email, Iraq,etc) outweights his ("omg socialism!").
CallahansLawRefutesEntropy
Politifact shows that that claim is not supported by the data
GiantRobotsRule
m.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/27/1440343/-The-Electability-Argument-Is-Dead-All-the-Polls-Show-Bernie-Does-Better-Against-GOP-Than-Hillary
GiantRobotsRule
Links from that page to the actual poll results
thebjornsson
both.
bibleben10
Yes.
charlietheratking
Polls show he would beat every republican by a larger majority than hillary
FlatPlutoSociety
Yeah, polls show that now. Polls taken after the money machine has been turned against Bernie full force will be WILDLY different.
Blodgarmpls
But if bernie wins the primaries, wouldn't the democratic convention back him and give him money to fight the republican nominee?
FlatPlutoSociety
Sure, but imagine the Republican "this man is an ADMITTED SOCIALIST" ads. They'll be devastating.
Blodgarmpls
We'll see i guess. If it's an extremely conservative candidate, the moderates will decide the vote
CallahansLawRefutesEntropy
Republicans aren't going to vote for him. Progressive democrats will. So the question is: will the socialist label & lack of religious 1/2
idkwhattomakemyussername
Imo that's where bernie would loose the primaries too. I think states like California and flordia will give Hilary a big push.
StandardDeviant
I really think he can beat Trump, Cruz, or Rubio. He's shown he's really good at getting out the vote, and his message is very relevant.
TypicalShmosby
both
thegentlemanoftheroad
I would rather fight for my beliefs, then simply give up because I am told the odds are against me.
CrazyGuyOnABike
He has a better chance in the general than Hillary. Most right-wingers are diametrically opposed to Hillary.
RobBobertyYT
If you dont ever fight on principle, then you'll never have a battle worth fighting
EightYearOldsDude
I'm registering as a democrat just so I can vote for him in the primaries
EpsilonZem
I switched my party from Independent to Democrat, just so I can do the same.
CallahansLawRefutesEntropy
that's a powerful statement
RonMimnaugh
He was close in Iowa and is a 95% victor in NH, so we will have to see what happens, but he has a good shot
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StandardDeviant
Isn't he from Vermont?
FlameSama1
Vermont is his home state.
justjim1013
Living in NH and seeing how things are going now I would be surprised if he took 95% that isn't happening. He will win but not like that.
StandardDeviant
I think he meant that there is a 95% chance of him winning in NH
popejubal
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. He's a lock to win NH, but nobody takes 95% of the vote. That just doesn't happen.
justjim1013
I'm getting downvoted because people are idiots.
NickRitchie
NH**
NickRitchie
NH**
NickRitchie
Omg you dont understand its not 95% of the votes its 95% he wins NBA...
popejubal
Oh, well that's different. I agree that he has (more than) 95% chance to take NH. He just won't do it with 95% of the vote. Makes sense now.
JapaneseStudentTadashii
He tied with Hillary. I'd say he has a pretty good chance
Paksennarionisabadass
He can win. If he gets the kind of turnout that Obama got, he can win. We need young people to vote.
jonahrah
Even if he doesn't win he can show that someone can at least be competitive without large backers. Which could inspire others.
Piornet
I don't believe he has a chance. I also don't believe this country has a chance and that Rome is burning and the US is on its way out.
Rendstone
rome is not burning, just moving (again). But yeah, the US as a nation has about served its purpose. It will soon be time to jump ship
acunninglinguist
Both
MattSolotaire
Wouldn't vote for him I wasn't confident he can win
CocktailGaming
The point of elections is to vote for who you want to win, not for who you think is gonna win.
neggles
Every major reform seemed impossible at first.
GarrettSteube
I wonder the same about trump supporters ( fyi i currently like no candidate)
findlesticks
Out of curiosity, what's your ideology?
AWitlessIdiot
Statistically speaking, the polls say his hardest challenge will be the current primary. The polls say he would crush the general election.
Emrays
He'll win if trump gets the nomination. Let's be honest any democrat will win if trump gets the nomination
DonaldTrumpsEgo
No they wouldn't you moron.
username20characters
dat username! +1
Homophone
I heard his message when he first started seeking the nomination. I didn't think he had a chance, but I wanted him so I started throwing 1/?
Homophone
money at him. Not a lot, because I don't have a lot, but I gave what I could. I spammed up Facebook with him. I started seeing more & 2/?
Homophone
More of him. Now I think he will win the nomination & the presidency. He will win the White House because the public wants him. 3/3
Rendstone
and when (if) he does, he won't be able to do jackshit in office because your establishment wont let him. (duh)
Rendstone
i want him to win as much as you do but the fact is your country is run by the fed. period.
usiris
For me, both.
AmpsterMan
I think he does stand a chance. You aren't going to get Republican votes anyway and what he talks about is more popular than lead to believe
Renza0
1 - Not a supporter of anyone, but I'd say it depends who he goes against. trump/carson easy win, rubio, probably, cruz maybe. 2 - worth it
CallahansLawRefutesEntropy
Trump is a master of marketing and media. I wouldn't count him out yet (wish we could but...)
Renza0
I'd like to think that in the (hopefully) unlikely scenario that he wins the primaries, sane people would get their shit together and vote.
CallahansLawRefutesEntropy
That's what I thought about Bush in '04
Renza0
dear god
Rendstone
Honest question. Does the average american only vote for candidates likely to win?
CallahansLawRefutesEntropy
I vote for the candidate most likely to represent my views successfully - which includes being elected. I don't vote for my ideal if 1/2
CallahansLawRefutesEntropy
voting for that person will significantly increase the chances of someone opposing my views getting into office
CallahansLawRefutesEntropy
Age. I used to be more idealistic. Now realistic.
Rendstone
if you were even a little bit realistic you'd see that the asses most likely to win have the highest chance of screwing you over
derock789
You shouldn't fight for who you think would win you should fight for your beliefs, never know what will happen.
BenSnow97
That's right, but sadly the current voting system is incompatible with that. If one side is segmented, the other inevitably wins.
ruskieradio
Not always true if you live in a marginal district or a country that doesn't have proportional representation and only first past the post.
ElioNope
..now compete against it. Vote for the person you want in, and others will see the higher vote and potential winner next round. (2/2)
ElioNope
If you don't vote for who you want in, you are actively making it harder for them to get in, twice. They not only lost your vote, but (1/2)
jsktrogdor
1/3 You can say that... but if a Republican wins the Supreme Court is going to end up majority conservative and you'll have a decade of
jsktrogdor
3/3 All because you thought making an ethical statement was more important than being as sure as possible that you could stop all of that.
jsktrogdor
2/3 conservative judgments. Plus years of un-vetoed hyper-conservative law-making. Basically the country receding backwards 30 years.
CallahansLawRefutesEntropy
I have to say - this is where I am. I can think of few worse things than a conservative-stacked Supreme Court.
jsktrogdor
I dont know why people are downvoting us, it's basic pragmatism.
CallahansLawRefutesEntropy
right? unless they're conservatives but I wouldn't have thought they hang out as much on Imgur
amras0000
I'm gonna have to question the implicaction that Clinton has a better chance of winning the election than Sanders.
jsktrogdor
It's *really* easy to convince Americans who grew up or lived during the cold war that socialism is a big scary boogie man.
kingpikablu
Well, she's weathered years of what the GOP has thrown at her, they've yet to throw anything major at Sanders
jsktrogdor
And they're not gonna, until he wins. They want Sanders to win. Because it's easy to make him sound scary or crazy to mainstream America.
silverfoxxflame
If enough people went through with this americas democratic system would be a lot more effective than the 2-party it is.
Krympehl
Also, you should vote for who is mostly likely to win. Since we have one and ONLY ONE vote. Casting that when there are more than two 1/?
Krympehl
2/? candidates becomes tricky when you really like one but don't think they'll win.
DJThuglifeSupreme
I see support for him all over the place. Way more than anything for Hillary
chadChadChadChadChadChad
A year ago the vast majority would've said he stood no chance in the primaries, yet here we are
loseit7000
Not "would have said" but this exact thing was said. It shows how wrong the media usually is.
mimomisu
very good point, sir
kingpikablu
But to be fair, the general election is going to have quite a few more conservatives voting. And the Republicans have yet to target Sanders.
gamer2k4
A year ago his opponent wasn't widely and indisputably considered a criminal and a liar.
mastercheif
And yet here she is too. Sad.
ShitSteve0Says
I mean he tied in one state. Not saying he doesn't have a chance but we're only one state in
loseit7000
The fact that a "crazy socialist" who is generally unknown can tie with a former secretary of state, former first lady, is a huge win.
spuds31
He tied, after being consistently ignored (liberals) or berated (conservatives) by the media. That's kind of impressive.
ShitSteve0Says
Ignored is a VERY strong word to use.
freightfright
Ignored is partially true. Until a couple months ago the mainstream media was completely ignoring him. Now every paper seems to cover him.
CptnDIstraction
And lost 6 delegates by coin flip
ShitSteve0Says
That doesn't change that it's just one state. It doesn't matter how the tie happen it was still a tie.
CptnDIstraction
If he had won any of the coin flips he would have been ahead in Iowa
Withywindle508
Both. Iowa has proven he can hold his own in elections, and he is VASTLY more popular than any republican.
RealNormMacDonald
Honest answer: his chances of election are growing all the time. Regardless, it is more than worth it to fight for the beliefs!
omnascent
Not sure about that. See Ralph Nader, Florida, 2000.
omnascent
Not sure about that. See Ralph Nader, Florida, 2000...
iamwpj
I agree. People won't wonder so much if he continues strong in the primaries.
Protean2648
If he had an extra 6 months he'd be ahead. It's just a matter of gaining momentum and having a long enough runway for Hillary to crash on.
ThatMKGuy
General Election *salutes*
fancypenguins
In all honesty the Primary is more difficult for him to win then the general. He is favored against all GOP potentials.
Peruru
than*
LimelyBishop
Those polls have rarely been predictive.
Seattlite
Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum lead in 2012 sooooooooooooooooo
ruskieradio
And Herman Cain. And Michelle Bachman. Basically anyone but the unfortunately sane John Huntsman
andwhyisthecarpetallwetTodd
As a republican - I wish we had more to bring to the table. Sorry for the complete lack of any great candidates. Some are okay...i guess
MagicSoakingMySpine
As a moderate, Kasich is the only one who isn't a fucknugget
Fatherdoodle
As a Conservative, out of our choices I hope Bernie wins.
blitz220
Kasich seems like your best candidate, but he gets no love cause no one had heard of him.
Galactasaur
The moderate republicans are at the bottom dropping out :/
DanAykroydFanClub
I'm left wing as fuck, but John Kasich actually seemed like he might be a good human being, even if our politics differ on most things
StandardDeviant
Yeah, but they either dropped out or are about to. I'm referring to Kasich and Rand.
jrau18
As a democrat, I wish you had more to bring, too. Better candidates is better for everyone, regardless of side.
WhatsInANameMeByAnyOtherNameWouldBeJustAsLonely
As an independent, I might vote republican depending on the candidate, some of them have more complete plans than the Dems, thats all i want
DammitIHadSomethingForThis
I'm a Socialist myself, and I wish there was a good Republican candidate
Nameless301
The one good candidate you guys had just suspended his campaign
onlymade2giveupvotes
the fact that rubio had a good showing in iowa is much better than trump imo
blitz220
Trump is a better candidate than Rubio.
onlymade2giveupvotes
Why do you think so? I'm not trying to be a dick I just want to know what you think
shmekie
I'm independent and I like Rand Paul but America apparently does not. Bernie is likely my fav
ImTomLincoln
Question - how can you like both Rand and Bernie? One is for small government and the other is for Uncle Sam on steroids.
shmekie
I know this is stupid before I say it but, it seems like they both are less bought and paid for? Also I like when government helps 1/2
Tunisia
So will you vote for whichever idiot makes it through the GOP primary just because they're Republican, or would you consider voting Dem...
Tunisia
... if there was a better person at the helm?
andwhyisthecarpetallwetTodd
I would vote for Bernie hands down against anyone currently running. I just wouldnt vote for hillary.
krokoschoko
Hillary vs Trump, you have to vote, GO
Peebrained
I support him because he's the only honest politician I've ever seen. Well, Elizabeth Warren, but she's not running, so...
lovesholly
I love warren! Mark ruffalo tried to get her to run. Dammit hulk
MyNameIsScotty
Ron Paul is honest. I disagree with his economy completely. But he's a good man and I respect him.
swimbikerunrepeatswimbikerunrepeatswimbiwhatwasidoing
...yet
plainoldfool
If he wins the primary, it would be cool to see her as his running mate.
Catitapillar
SHE IS NOW!!!
JediSayRelax
he actually has the legs to go the distance
Mr107
He basically tied Hillary in Iowa. 6% was decided on a coin flip so yeah he has a chance if people actually go and vote in the primaries.
tallred
Not even 6%, it was like less than 1%
Mr107
Yeah sorry about the double posting mobile was acting up. I meant .6% that period was suppose to be a decimal. I agree it's a tie but still.
ElGrandeBanana
about 10 deligates out of 1684 were coinflipped, not 6%