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Jan 23, 2019 11:01 AM
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KillingTlme
But we need that wall to keep them drugs and bad hombres out.
Somethingsomethingnerdy
shasuba
I thought the military was still getting paid?
CliffWestern
The party who "supports our troops" doesn't mind sending them to die, cancelling their checks and denying healthcare to 911 responders
burningitchyrash
...and giving people autism, and killing senior citizens, and melting glaciers, blah, blah, blah....
Droppedmywispa
Also goodbye tsa
Stranger1303
He who controls the pants, controls the Government!!!
officialmemepolice
Real story, I am relying on my captains license for money but USCG won’t process it due to the shutdown. Non government worker, without pay.
DarthWren
WHERE IS SEASON 4!!!!
blkbox
The sad part is, they are still out there saving your ass when you're in trouble and they're not getting paid for it.
Pentacus
TIL the US coastguard get paid, the UK's is completely voluntary
ShadedDyskord
They're not getting paid *Right now* is the kicker. An executive order has been signed requiring back pay once the budget has been approved
thatwoodguy
There is a scene in Heavy Metal called "Harry Canyon" when he goes to a police station and they list off how much it costs to investigateetc
GambitLW
Look is there, slavery did come back...
hanabakemono
My dad hasn't worked since before Christmas. We've missed two paychecks and bills are coming in. Fuck this shutdown.
SomeGeographer
Same. I'm fortunate to have a good savings but many of my coworkers (all scientists) have had to start working min wage jobs to pay bills.
hanabakemono
My mom, who retired last year, is now deciding to go back to work because of this shutdown. I'm so angry with all this. Hope you're okay.
SomeGeographer
I'm angry as well. Best wishes to you and your family. Hope this shutdown ends soon for all our sakes.
delitescency
Wait wait. I'm not from America. Are the police getting paid? Are the police? Is anyone employed by government getting paid? Are you guys ok
angelghoul
Send help plz
fortfantastic
most federal employees aren't being paid. So national parks, FBI, coast guard, janitors in DC, museum and zoo employees that are federal 1/
fortfantastic
but state troopers and local police agencies are county/state and separate than federal branches and services of the government.
fortfantastic
but the us is not okay no
VitaminJay
Yeahnah. The Coasties are still working despite the shutdown. Because dipshits with outboard motors never cease.
Angel666Hawk
A wall on the southern border should stop that.
ensensu
Make it a chain link fence and we've got a deal.
MicentennialBan
Yeah... All 5 branches are still working...
Flamboyatron
Yeah, but the other 4 are getting paid.
Angel666Hawk
Coast Guard is homeland security not department of defense. They aren't being paid.
MicentennialBan
Let's hope they bank usaa or Navy Fed.
Lv30Wizard
Their loans only last for 60 days before it becomes debt with interest, yup life sucks
MicentennialBan
Yeah I remember all too well... Not missing the military this month
shortbuswastaken
If only they weren't, some folks lost at sea would probably help get people mad enough to tell Trump to fuck of about the wall
Kittynomnoms
Could say the same thing about air traffic controllers. Shut down planes in the country, I guarantee shutdown would be over in an hour.
shortbuswastaken
Even better, as far as I'm concerned, even if my friend would bitch about not going to Colorado for months
palmo
... we've been telling him that for 3 years. If that happened he'd still blame Democrats and plenty would believe him.
shortbuswastaken
He'd lose support and you know it, how much is to be determined, but don't actually act like the fence sitters wouldn't get off the fence 1\
shortbuswastaken
En masse if the president just let a few American families float around in the Atlantic wherever, probably starving maybe capsized
TekDragon
The 30% would start theorizing that those families were liberals and their suffering is excusable. That's what they did in the shutdown.
TheBlackWindHowls
Right now, the majority of Americans both don't want the wall and blame Trump for the shutdown. Helpful since he claimed responsibility.
TekDragon
Problem is that the 30% of tabloid trash swilling cultists actually vote.
therealretto
5 billion is a drop in the bucket. Who cares. Both Democrats and Republicans need to get their heads out of their asses. Pissing contest...
baronnapalm
Right? Canada spent nearly that much on an Imaginary pipeline.
palmo
It isn't 5 billion. It's 5 billion towards a multi billion dollar boondoggle ego project that won't work based on entirely false assumptions
therealretto
Dems Focussing on the wall is the same as repubs focusing on immigration as a cause for concern. Go catch the whale... no the guppy.
therealretto
This is all some bull shit song and dance done by repubs and dems. They are all corrupt as fuck
therealretto
I agree. But that 5 billion doesn't even matter. Why not look at other projects that are billions over budget due to faulty contractors such
therealretto
As gpsocx
therealretto
Why not out pressure on the trillions of dollars that have gone missing in the govt budget over the last 12 years
ThatRandomCanadian
If you buy a kid the cheap chocolate bar they're throwing a tantrum over, they'll keep doing it.
therealretto
True that. But when the toddler is holding a million people hostage...
ensensu
It's sniper time.
Technohawk
In the not too distant future:
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HalloIamherenow
Don't remember the commentor but fave comment "If I was a captain in the Coast Guard and wasn't getting paid I'd convert my ship to...
HalloIamherenow
... a pirate ship faster than you could say 'Now taking bribes from South American drug lords'"
ensensu
Switching sides to the people who can afford you. Classic.
copingcabana
Ragnar Danneskjol
burningitchyrash
"He still owes me money."- Hank Reardon.
135forte
I feel like you know this, but that is how a lot of pirates started, the Caribbean guys where a lot of postwar layoffs.
TheBlueMuppet
Next Sunday, AD.
WhyDontYouMakeMe
There was a guy named Joel
ElbowdeepinaBulbasaur
Not too different from you or me
SottoFrotto
He worked at Gizmonic Institute,
WhyDontYouMakeMe
My fishing boat needs more dakka
ObscureYoutubeReference
wolfpreist
I think the A10 is the closest to enough Dakka the orcs would ever see
WhyDontYouMakeMe
But what if my fishing boat had TWO Avenger cannons? Or maybe three????
FitzChevalric
SigynRose
I'd hate to die
Izael
What movie is that from?
ObscureYoutubeReference
It’s inconceivable that you haven’t heard of this masterpiece.
Izael
Technohawk
Princess Bride. Great movie.
Dedeurmetdebaard
You wouldn't download a car.
ReallyNotAVampire
I certainly the fuck would.
MrChurch
I'd download that shit so fast. Well actually at about .75 Mbps cause that seems to be the average speed from Comcast.
JustFeedMePieDammit
Wanna bet? https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3146317
blackrasputin
Pft the Chinese downloaded a fighter jet.
BadDragon1183
Seriously...? I hope that's true!
YoureBeingSieged
no you dont
blackrasputin
Don’t worry they couldn’t figure out the avionics so it can’t fly.
ensensu
I downloaded a wall.
HalTheMisinterpretivePornStar
Do the coast guard fall under the category of 'essential government personnel'?
howlofdeath2
Coast Guard is department of homeland security and not funded. Department of defense is funded.
gunshowzero
between homeland security and TSA being unfunded I can’t imagine the biggest domestic threat would be brown people looking for better lives
japh
Yes. There are about 40k active duty members, and a couple thousand other essential personnel working without pay right now.
Mackeroy
in the grim darkness of government shutdown, there is only work without pay
GalaxyExpress999
"Essential government personnel" does not mean "we'll pay them right now for the work that they do."
saryky
Air traffic controllers are pretty essential but not getting paid. :(
ShadedDyskord
That's where the fun begins... FAA just has to issue "unsafe flying conditions" due to distractions, and can ground pretty much anything
brannana
Essential doesn’t mean you get paid. It means you’re obligated to work even without pay.
saryky
Yep
Finlandery
what happens, if you say no? you just get fired?
ShadedDyskord
It's grounds for insubordination because you signed a document stating you understood and accepted this possibility. Immediate termination
susansbutthole
Probably, but most people who are considered essential employees know the deal/have worked to get to those positions so they likely won’t.
brannana
Same things that would happen if you just didn’t show up for your job when you were being paid.
Finlandery
well, its time some old fashion sick leave. No pay, no working ^^
gunshowzero
stop me if I’m wrong, isn’t all of this the most socialist crap that’s EVER happened and those responsible are its heaviest detractors?
brannana
I’m not stopping you. There’s an op-Ed in the WaPo today that makes a case for today’s Republicans copying old Soviet methods.
gunshowzero
So they keep people afraid of “socialism” because they equate it to communism.. yet these patriots work without pay for “glory of country”..
rjl2tigerdrop
I believe all military branches are funded
bcooley
Only the DOD is funded. The Coast Guard, while being military, is part of homeland security, which doesnt have funding
haldir0drizzit
the coast guard is a uniformed service but we work under department of homeland security not DOD so right now not funded and unpaid
brannana
Coast guard was moved under DHS some time ago.
idontlikepickingusername
Coast guard is under Homeland Security during peacetime, Navy during war so they may not be getting paid right now
ManicFroth
Trust me, we are not getting paid.
DatDarthCaedus
They work, but a lot of them ain't getting paid, and some are relying on food banks and donations to survive.
DatDarthCaedus
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/22/politics/coast-guard-unacceptable-food-pantries-shutdown/index.html
Finlandery
if it takes lets say ½ year, do they get interest to they payment?
BlueLanternBraxx
Lol is it normal for these shutdowns to last so long? Your country is really silly.
Kristyandwade4ever
No. When you have children as elected officials this is what happens.
TickTockWiggleStick
You’re right about the young and foolish batch of newly elected!
Kristyandwade4ever
I think age has little to do with it. Pride maketh the wise old man a fool, all clowns on both sides bickering, getting nothing done.
TickTockWiggleStick
Experience comes with age and I’m afraid misdirected enthusiasm is going to cause real world consequences and pain.
ZiggyStar1984
The fact you think the shutdown has anything to do with the new House members means you're fucking ignorant. Probably proud of it too...
TickTockWiggleStick
The fact that this was your takeaway and your immediate name calling was your “go to” says WAY more about you.
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anyzen
???????????????
rabbiebabbie
He said we want a wall and if we have to shutdown the government to feel safe than its totes worth it
ich0kemyselftosleep
No our president is a cunt.
AawesomeAardvaark
Usually les than 2 weeks. We've never had mr Art of the Deal running our country before. And by running i mean ruining.
TickTockWiggleStick
Um... Nope!
AawesomeAardvaark
Good point
digitalist1
Idk feel like re hiring gov workers is a waste of money. Not very conservative
CyriousLordofDerp
Shitbag McConnell is also part of the issue as he will not allow any vote that Trump does not pre-approve of.
hereforthegoodies
And how many votes has Nancy offered?
kjatar
I believe they've sent six bills to open the gov to the Senate. McConnell has not allowed voting on any of them.
hereforthegoodies
There will be several votes tomorrow Thursday. How many votes has Nancy had?
hereforthegoodies
To be fair he has offered several deals But Nancy shot every one down and offered none of her own hell trump even offered doca kids amnesty
crazyspelling
*temporary* amnesty... for $5b worth of a wall in Texas that Texans don't even want. Wall is stupid, use drones and cameras.
hereforthegoodies
How is a drone gonna stop anyone? Also tell me what counter offer Nancy has made
crazyspelling
El Chapo dug a mile long tunnel to escape from prison. A wall is a medieval solution to a modern problem. Pointlessly expensive amd stupid
AawesomeAardvaark
How is a wall gonna stop anyone?
crazyspelling
The R congressman from texas who oversees a large chunk of the border wants cameras and more boots on the ground. That's a fine idea.
crazyspelling
Nancy's counter was restart the gov't and then we'll talk about the border. The offer is still open and has not been accepted.
TakenCourier
Yes our country is silly, but we love it anyway. (When it's not being run by a spoiled man child with an inferiority complex)
jd2061
Aye, speak for yourself mate.
angelghoul
I just happened to be born here. I much rather have a fresh start some place else where they actually care about citizens and not money.
Uncommonminds
Trump is America's biggest blunder, and we are mostly humiliated, save for the select group of inbreds who still support him.
ItGotWorse
Yeah, people should have voted for any of the uniparty neolib/neocon warhawks instead. Perpetual war is so much better than focus on the US.
hereforthegoodies
That’s a bit harsh, he got us out of the Syrian war. How many wars did Obama get us out of?
Mackeroy
we weren't in syria, hes the one that deployed marines in strikers and cruise missiles
hereforthegoodies
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/us/politics/trump-syria-turkey-troop-withdrawal.html even the nyt thinks it was a military campaign
Uncommonminds
We actually were in Syria. (We're fighting on the same team here, I just thought you should know)
TickTockWiggleStick
I’m only embarrassed by the people who are too cowardly to get off the Trump hating bandwagon because that’s where all their friends are!
fartalert
You do understand why people have a hard time accepting him as a president, right? He makes it very easy to be on that "bandwagon"
TickTockWiggleStick
Absolutely! But I do my best not to group a specific behavior I hate into a larger umbrella of “-ists and -isms”.
xMandeRx
*show bad replies*
CyriousLordofDerp
"I looked at the comments, Ray."
LeSethX
Hey now, Belgium has hard longer shutdowns than us
fortfantastic
not forming a government is different than a shutdown.
MasterDefenestrator
Belgium also had a status quo budget in place so things were still funded and functioning while it happened.
LeSethX
Yeah, I know, we are still a joke. Esp since it's Congress that sets the budget and the spending, the pres only enforces it.
QueefBringer
We want a wall, if a partial govt shutdown is what it takes to increase the security of our borders then so be it.
ZiggyStar1984
Start a GoFundMe! Oh wait...
zuul01
by actual engineers, will cost CONSECUTIVE fortunes to maintain, will be an ecological catastrophe, will be a giant bigoted middle 2/?
powwerbottom
Most trafficking happens at ports of entry. You might want a wall for symbolic purposes but we don't need one.
HolyCowDoNotEat
Yo man. Reassess your life choices.
C43H66N12O12S2
No we don't, at least most people don't. And I really hope that Congress won't give our president this or else he might use it again.
DatDarthCaedus
A MINORITY of Americans want the wall, and the wall would be basically useless anyways. Ever hear of shovels, ladders and VISA overstays?
idontlikepickingusername
Let's increase our border security by shutting down customs officials and coast guard. I'm giving you the benefit and assuming you forgot /s
ZiggyStar1984
How does Trump's microcock taste?
zuul01
It won't increase security, it will cost a fortune to build, it will strip land from many private citizens, it's never been properly 1/?
zuul01
finger to one of our two closest neighbors and trading partners, will hurt the US economy, and the majority of Americans DON'T WANT IT. 3/3
BlueLanternBraxx
There is no logic, only Zuul.
Himura82
If it's that important he should've done it during the first two years of his presidency when he had complete control of the government....
xMandeRx
/thread. I have yet to see any coherent response to this.
ZiggyStar1984
Because there is none. It's literally a fucking cult for Trump at this point.
MrFlick
You might want a wall, but most Americans don’t, for a wide spread of reasons. Most being that it wouldn’t be nearly as effective at
MrFlick
Detouring illegal immigration as literally setting that much money on fire. A completely impenetrable wall spanning the entirety of the
MrFlick
United States can not be built for 5 billion US dollars, and even if it could it would be a waste of money. You can go around, under, or
MrFlick
Over a wall. most illegal immigration into the US comes from people overstaying travel visas anyway. Address the problem, a wall wouldn’t.
brannana
According to polling, more than 60% of Americans oppose the wall. Don’t forget Trump turned down $25 billion for the wall twice last year.
MrStealUrMeme
Non political person here. 60% of what Americans were asked? Its easy for any party to create a poll for their favor
brannana
It’s pretty consistent across all polls from all organizations.
QueefBringer
I don't see why they don't come to an agreement for another spending bill of 25B if they offered once already. I'm tired of people pretendin
brannana
That was the Republican held house that lost the majority on Jan 3. By refusing it then, Trump basically torpedoed his chances.
QueefBringer
I can agree trump made a mistake then because now it's evident as the only reasonable offer that was given.
QueefBringer
Pretending that not having a wall is better than having one. Sure it'll cost money, it'll take time, but it'll also create jobs, and plug a
QueefBringer
Hole in our economy. Not only that but ensure more immigrants come here legally giving their kids better opportunities when they arrive.
brannana
Given that every person who has studied the border has said that a wall is a waste of resources and money that could be better spent other /