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*you MAY walk away (but cmon, be nice.)
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PLEASE RESEARCH LAWS IN YOUR AREA. Yes, they can vary.
StewPedasso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-WMn_zHCVo
Slania312
This is just an opinion but, how about we just stop being 12 year olds trying to make a cop angry and just fucking listen? I'm hiding nothin
CrabWallet
That's pretty naive. Once they're questioning you, a cop is not on your side, he's trying to get a confession, regardless of guilt.
Slania312
If you've ever known a cop, getting a "confession" is quite a bit of work. They don't just arrest you and go home. That's pretty naive.
NeverEndingStoryMachine
Bingo.
CrabWallet
Since my familiarity with cops has been questioned; I'm an attorney and have defended dozens of cops, including chiefs of police.
toastytheburninator
Second panel. "Deatined." Couldn't stop noticing it. Now you won't either.
aznhntr
Then vs Than... sigh...
wengocerrones
was bugging the crap outta me
EnigmaNL
Reading stuff like this always makes it seem like the US police is some sort of terrorist organization rather than a force of justice.
sexyjapanties
Depending on the area, they might as well be.
mailau
People act like it is. Usually people that have something to hide. It really isn't bad at all. Americans like to make a fuss over a lot
EnigmaNL
Well it also doesn't help that there is so much police brutality to see online.
outdoorsman
If you live in a college town, some cops will go out of their way to write tickets, giving many young americans the idea that the police 1/2
outdoorsman
are out to get them. 2/2
TheThingNoNotThatOne
Actually, a cop does have a right to a Terry Frisk, regardless of your consent. However, as noted, they can only look for weapons.
Tarelgeth
Only if they have reason to believe that the frisk will protect them from a suspected threat. "He might have a weapon" isn't enough.
HighAdmiralWiggles
We (police) can do it on the basis of a person having a weapon. However, if, based on our experience, we feel what we can legitimately (1/?)
HighAdmiralWiggles
construe as being contraband (namely narcotics or paraphernalia), we can investigate further. If I pat someone down and feel what (2/?)
HighAdmiralWiggles
feels like a dime bag, pipe, syringe, etc in their pocket, I can enter that pocket to investigate what it is. I cannot go into other (3/?)
HighAdmiralWiggles
pockets based on that though, unless it does end up being contraband. (4/4)
shadowex3
I actually once had a bag of dimes in my pocket for bus fare...
Twombly
Tbh, if I ever got stopped by a policeman I'd just do whatever they asked. (I live in England)
Drinkyourkoolaid
That's because the police in the UK are actually pretty good. i mean I've NEVER heard of anyone with an actually bad story about them.
AintHeAPeach
It sucks to live in fascist countries doesn't it?
581685488765122003584984651222151216854658161
My American peers are downvoting you because they know your right. Fuck them
Dragaroth
or because we don't share the view, and think it is an over-exaggeration extrapolated from some conspiracy addled mind.
rabbuk
This looks good on paper. Till you get tazed.
CrabWallet
then you get a million dollars. I've seen a later convicted murderer's mother get six figures for a slightly illegal search.
RocknRootRanchcuzallwegotisrocksandrootsandafewtrees
Tazings not so bad. If you're prepared for it, lol. I bet it hurts like hell if you're not though!
LangdonAlger
Don't Tase me Bro! ..... (are we still using this, I'm a little behind).
nerfavari
we are now
JediKnight
Hopefully the jury is sympathetic to you when you take the cop to court. If you're not under arrest and get tazed... that's bad.
CrabWallet
The jury will make you a rich man. I've seen it happen.
ZombieEinstein
Not every state has a clear-cut cop-watch law. Mass, for example, has tried to ban all recording of cop activity in Boston.
ZombieEinstein
This ban has never had a legal test to it (no one has been arrested and charged with it, or arrested, released and sued over it)
ShrekClanPlays
Also try not to be Black or Hispanic.
ShepherdBook
That's a good tip!
blakeboyd
I'm going to Hell for LOL, but also too true.
ChibaMasaki
As a latino, this is hilarious.
chubito33
well im screwed already
zoneco
Protip
ApparentlyImAHipster
If that is the reference I think it is, excellent.
brenda189
I'm lucky because even though I'm Hispanic I look like a white girl
cousteau
Question: are Spaniards considered Hispanic too?
GingerTheBeard
no, i personally would refer to Spaniards as Spaniards.
nfuego17
Hispanic refers to nationalities with direct relations to Spain. Thus, demographic poles now have "Hispanic/Latin American" as a catch all.
nfuego17
So... yes. Spaniards are "Hispanic."
Thor561
Only if you are swarthy. This also applies to Greeks and Italians as well.
cousteau
TIL my arms are hispanic.
cescgranados
No, they're european.
ApparentlyImAHipster
Yes.
KidneyBeene
Can you tan? If yes, then you are a Mexican. If you can't then you are white.
cousteau
As a Spaniard, am I safe if I go to USA with a map to point people out where Spain is?
AllIHaveHadTodayIsLikeSixGummyBearsAndSomeScotch
"What is this, geography class?"
StewPedasso
Directions confusing, got dick stuck in officer's hand.
GreyPocket
DON'T TAZE IT BRO!
StewPedasso
But frisk it thoroughly.
UseTheSource
I do miss something like this for other countries.
Freedan
"I do not consent to this search." "RESISTING ARREST!" *Taser*
tarataqa
It's worse if it was George Zimmerman. Then you'd just be dead.
J2383
I advise telling them that you will not resist, but do not consent and will be speaking to an attorney about their actions later.
ZombiHugs
Only if you're black.
MooMooDan
Or Polish. Sadly.
iLynux
If you are arrested for resisting arrest, then any sane judge would laugh and dismiss the case.
donandonandon
Ah, it's funny 'cause it's true
whelp
Thanks Putin!
sblade46
In Soviet Russia... damn I got nothin'
danvolodar
Russian cops don't have tasers.
itakeawalkonthewildside
In Soviet Russia, tasers have cops.
kmikl
Hmm... forgetting escalation of force procedures... http://www.lolbrary.com/content/27/thats-a-paddlin-30027.jpg
liliputian7
WHERE'S BATMAN WHEN YOU NEED HIM
pojaximus
Also, refer to them as Officer. Cop can be taken as derogatory statement.
dreyopolis
Community Oriented Policing.....how is that derogatory? They are cops. That's what I call them.
mediocremedic
I have to call BS on that. As a former police dispatcher, almost all that I've worked with called themselves cops. (1/2)
scythe121
I think it depends on the area and the individual. My Grandfather was a State Trooper up here in AK, and detested the word "cop".
mediocremedic
(2/2) Still, if you're a suspect, you may not want to use such casual terms with the person standing between you and a jail cell.
JediKnight
When I'm addressing a cop, I don't say "Hey cop, what's going on?" I say "Hey officer, what's going on?"
StewPedasso
I say, "What seems to be the officer, problem?"
ThePatchyBeard
They tend not to mind one way or another, just as long as you don't spit it out or make pig sounds.
SaintMaceToTheFace
Or Sir
TrialOrc
Or ma'am, if it's a female.
SergeantKnickerlessArsewipe
Or "lady policeman"
littleleopard
I don't recommend calling them pigs, either. Just ask my brother about it... It didn't end well. (He really should have known better)
Blastergv9
COP = constable on patrol. How is that derogatory?
bakedbads
http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/cop.asp
Blastergv9
thanks... my dad was an officer and ive heard it in many places. good to know the facts.
AttorneyAtLager
If a cop is so immature that they can't shrug off a derogatory statement they should be removed from the force immediately.
jlawthelarson
I always say Sir. I feel no need to call them Officer, Sir should do just fine. Although they seem to be tasy crazy anymore so who knows.
jlawthelarson
Or Ma'am.
Davo120
Knowing your rights and being a dick to police are two different things.
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IAmAdolfHitlerCommanderoftheThirdReich
I've known a lot of cops and none of them are anything worse than brusque, especially when on the job. Maybe look at your own behavior.
Dragaroth
it can't be him, its gotta be the system man, the system is all fucked up, cops are pigs, maaaan, cmon, are you too much of a sheep to see?
CheesyPoofs1
WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!1!!one!!1 But seriously, I'm surprised by all the cop-hate on here. I mean...they do actually help keep us safe, right?
IAmAnthonyStark
I agree...Davo! Exercising your rights doesn't mean you need to be an ass...I like that the post includes "calmly say"...it's could (1/2)
IAmAnthonyStark
(2/2) mean all the difference...if you start getting agitated, the can, will, and should cuff you
DonNeedNoStinkinUserName
None of the above warrants being called a dick. Letting a cop know you KNOW your rights can @ times back them off from potential illegality
Drinkyourkoolaid
Yea, but the thing is they know their rights more than you know yours. + they know how to abuse their rights. pissing them off is a bad idea
NeverEndingStoryMachine
You'd be surprised. Some cops know their stuff but none of them had to go to law school.
AttorneyAtLager
Exactly. I have yet to meet a cop that knows any more about basic traffic laws than the general public.
Citragon
PROTIP: dont be "that guy" who screams I KNOW MY RIGHTS I KNOW MY RIGHTS I KNOW MY RIGHTS because you probably dont and you look like a tool
MilkBoneUnderwear
but... but I say a post on imgur, so I KNOW MY RIGHTS I KNOW MY RIGHTS!! that's sarcasm btw
jayar1st
Cops study a ton of case law, so typically they know your rights better than you do.
paulec252
This may be true, may not be. You can study as much case law as a cop. They frequently have no more knowledge of the actual law than you do.
AttorneyAtLager
Where are you cops from? The ones that I've met don't even have a basic knowledge of road laws.
RebeccaDalal48
lonely job for power hungry sobs
datMaggie
I can never believe how stupid people can act with a cop around. I live in D.C. I've seen a lot of this shit.
NotAPervert
more detail? you're against the post, for it, or have stories related?
datMaggie
The post is great. I wish people thought of this when the cops come to talk to them.
CrabWallet
Me too! Command officials are cool, a lot of street officers are dumb asses though.
datMaggie
In response to questions, DC has an extremely high crime rate. 542 per square mile per year, compared to national median of 39.6
NotAPervert
thanks for clarifying
datMaggie
Also almost twice national average of theft per 1000 people, and over 3 times national average car theft per 1,000 people.
datMaggie
over 3 times average for murder, 6 times average for robbery, twice average for assault.
NotAPervert
ah, the way you phrased the original comment, it sounded like you were saying you'd seen people do those things and they didn't work
OfTheHaunted
As someone also from the DC area, explain?
datMaggie
Seriously? There's all kinds of shit happening in D.C. highest crime rate in the U.S. I believe. People get stopped by cops all the time.
OfTheHaunted
Highest crime? I'm pretty sure places like Detroit, Baltimore, and Chicago have the highest crime.
jadedimgurian
Aussie here. Are there more cops in DC than normal..?
datMaggie
Not really, it's more like there's more crime in DC than normal, and more people that get stopped for possible crimes regardless of guilt.
MrPompaztic361
If you are being frisked, be sure to yell "I need an adult!" as loud as you can.
CoyoteSabre
"Stranger Danger!"
Heatsir
You need to go the other way with this..."OH YEAH, TOUCH ME RIGHT THERE!!!!"
BirthdayMassacre
I work at McDonald's and when we receive a bill more than $50, we have to get a manager. I always yell out "I NEED AN ADULT".
djzkay
or "No! Don't touch me there! That is my no-no square!"
ClinekusMaximus
"I do not consent to your friskings!"
johnnybeg00d
Hahaha. I laughed. "I NEED AN ADULT" "Sir, please calm down" "I NEED AN ADULT" "Please stop shouting..."
PapaPengo
"I NEED AN ADULT!" "Sir, I AM an adult"
Thesinlesssinner
He touched me in my no no place Mom!
oohhaithere
and-and he made me call him Uncle Bad-Touch!
BurlRavenscroft
Do you have the legal right to be told the reasonable suspicion or probable cause before the officer proceeds?
jayar1st
You do not have that right. If they say you are detained you don't get to argue that point until you get to court.
bgrthn123
It's not a right so they don't have to but some will if you ask.
NotaCop12345
A well trained officer will always tell you right away.
BurlRavenscroft
Right, but if he/she doesn't, is that information I need to be told? Or is it something they can tell me later at their convenience.
RocknRootRanchcuzallwegotisrocksandrootsandafewtrees
Sometimes people are too stoned/drunk to understand what they're told. So you can ask but you may not comprehend till later, lol.
kmikl
I think it varies by jurisdiction, but they are not required to tell you the truth, ever.
NeverEndingStoryMachine
It is not information you, as an arrestee or defendant, have the right to be told. Especially not during your police encounter,
thatFamilyMan
As far as I'm aware of, at least in my jurisdiction, there is no requirement for me to explain my ARS/PC. I generally would though. (1/?)
thatFamilyMan
It all depends on the circumstances. But the only requirements to explain PC would be to a judge for a warrant or in court.
Linlin
no i don't believe so
Idonthaveanamelol
NO!!! They only have to prove it in court, not to you. They can cuff you and book without even Miranda warning (just can't ask you questions
ThatWeirdBarefootGuy
The officer will inform you. "I detect the odor of alcohol" etc
outdoorsman
You have to be given the reason for being detained. They cant detain you without cause, therefore, yes that do have to inform you.\
Hypohamish
Sidenote, don't 'stick it to the man' just because you can. If you have nothing to hide, don't be a dick about it Peeps just doing their job
OliversQueen
if you have nothing to hide, the cop obviously wasn't doing his job very well.
FireBlade4K
If you have nothing to hide you dont need any rights.
CrabWallet
Wrong. Police make mistakes all the time, they have no qualms about pulling a false confession. Watch Frontline: The Confessions.
RocknRootRanchcuzallwegotisrocksandrootsandafewtrees
Most cops are just doing their job. People focus on the bad ones and make assumptions about the rest of us.
J2383
Everyone has something to hide
nerfavari
this is true, that's why both sides act they way they do during an encounter with each other
curlyjefferson
If they do their job properly, there is no reason for this to be used. It's not about having nothing to hide, it's about following the law.
Dragaroth
dude, this is explaining how to help them do their job, in cases where the cop IS doing their job, properly OR not.
curlyjefferson
What I'm saying, is that if the officer does their job properly, you don't need to use lines like: I (don't) consent to this search.
Dragaroth
what I'm saying, is that if the officer has that suspicion to w/e, it is good to at least know that you are legally allowed to do w/e.
curlyjefferson
I think there's been some miscommunication here, I agree with you, My initial comment was against the "if you have nothing to hide" shtick
loveandallthat
This is probably good advice. I just called my dad and handed the phone to the cop. Taking the easy way out. That was not proper procedure.
jayar1st
That just pisses cops off.
loveandallthat
Unless your father is a sergeant in the next town over.
jayar1st
Still. Especislly if the sergeant tried to get you off.
loveandallthat
Luckily I was not being arrested. There was no need to get me out of it; I just wanted someone who knew all the rules doing the talking.
franksthetankandbeans
Great facts. Also, remember to always be respectful and honest when conversing with an officer.
spaans
Yes, the VAST majority of the time, they are preforming their civic duty to uphold the laws of the land, even if you don't agree with them
Bjorrie
There's good and bad in every job, when it's within their power to fuck up your life, better safe than sorry. Sucks for the good guys
theoriginalsmellycat
couldn't agree more!
MeessterVal
And don't forget to use proper grammar while writing these. It surely arouses some suspicion in your readers.
franksthetankandbeans
Well thanks, I guess. I am not OP, so this is all I wrote.
4ever
Favorited for later use.
MeessterVal
Thank you for telling me.
4ever
No problem.
ErcFrnss
As a police academy enrollee- so much this. I can't tell you how much it sucks to do a routine stop and hear "AM I UNDER ARREST! AM I?!?"
AttorneyAtLager
I know, it would be so much easier if we lived in a country where people weren't guaranteed basic rights and liberties!
MeessterVal
That.
YoureThinkingAboutFoolyCoolyingRightNowArentYou
This. I'm reminded of the dude who was popping off to the cops during a raid, got arrested, and got his rottweiler shot. Tragedy all around.
MeessterVal
That.
AttorneyAtLager
Exactly. Why should we expect cops to be mature adults and not respond to comments they don't like with violence?
YoureThinkingAboutFoolyCoolyingRightNowArentYou
Wasn't there but dude was obv antagonizing the cops, and got cuffed. The rest was where the stupidity came in.
Lovingtheoreos
This should go without saying.
franksthetankandbeans
I agree, but according to many of the comments I got it apparently is difficult for some to understand.
MeessterVal
But you already said it, so...?
wingsofg
unless you have an ounce of weed on you. The just be polite and respectful - but lie about the weed, as fast as a horse can run!!!
Mrdirtysanchez
+1 for using "conversing"
apotatochip
I've had so many encounters with police over the years(while on foot mostly). I've learned being polite and honest go a long way. 1/2
apotatochip
You can know all of things above without being an asshole about it. They're human beings, treat them as such & things will go smoothly 2/2
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SunbrosUnite
The problem is that everyone who feels they need to ask if theyre being detained is a cock sucker to begin with. Cops are people too.
Bjorrie
worst advice ever (maybe not worst ever, but close). Never say anything, at all, for whatever reason.
J2383
For those downvoting this comment, watch this for an explanation as to why Bjorrie is right http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
Dragaroth
even the top comments there ooze tin foil hatiness.
Flyndaran
Most cops that I've met demand ass kissing. Mere politeness will take you five times as long to get going again.
oldmidget
what if im guilty
franksthetankandbeans
Then be respectful and honest so they don't beat the shit out of you before taking you in. If guilty, they you should pay the penalty.
oldmidget
no, i dont want to go to jail. its not like i hurt anyone, i just sell cocaine
franksthetankandbeans
That is against the law. The penalty is jail. And selling drugs is hurting the user and helping to ruin their lives.
oldmidget
coke never hurt nobody that used it responsibly. everythi ng in moderation kids
Fishtrombone
Fuck that, make that wack-ass popo do his goddamn job for once.
ItsNotLenticular
IDC ABOUT THE DOWNVOTES FOR DISRESPECT, YOU GET AN UPVOTE FOR "WACK-ASS POPO"
iyoulovesyou
Downvote for inappropriate use of caps, not for disrespect.
ItsNotLenticular
UPVOTE FOR APPROPRIATE USE OF DISAPPROVAL FOR CAPS APPROPRIATENESS
TheThingNoNotThatOne
Aaannnnddddd that's how you get a baton to the face, or a taser to the balls, then claim police brutality.
NotaCop12345
Well baton to the face is illegal, nothing above the neck. But the taser barb in the testicle could happen. Those things are tough to aim.
Flyndaran
Claiming something when it actually happens? How horrible.
TheThingNoNotThatOne
By being a dick when the police are talking to you, even if you didn't do anything, is not how to handle the situation.
AttorneyAtLager
Yeah, how dare we expect cops to handle conflict like mature adults and not resort to violence everything someone hurts their feelings!
TheThingNoNotThatOne
That's funny, since "nanny nanny boo boo, I don't have to talk to you" isn't the mature response when a cop asks you a question
AttorneyAtLager
I for one have a bit higher standards for people we give the power to kill and arrest to, versus teenagers in high school.
franksthetankandbeans
Even so, no reason to be disrespectful and give them more reason to overreact.
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franksthetankandbeans
You are correct, I have not. But that is like hating all half black people because Obama pissed in your wheaties.
Sauzels
You probably had a bad experience with one officer, possibly combined with believing the bad rap that they get for whatever reason. (...)
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After fighting for about 30 my wife (girlfriend at the time) made up. We were sitting on the couch "making up" when a door bell rang. I ans
Sauzels
Just as with basically every job, there are good and bad examples of the people in the position, but a vast majority are just trying to(...)
MrBananaBeak
Daddy always taught me to address any person who carries a firearm with respect and caution.
MeessterVal
Have fun with the rape and murder!
MrBananaBeak
Well. See. I carry one too. Address them with respect until, you know, they try to rape you. Then shoot them.
franksthetankandbeans
Smart man.
WayLatetotheParty
Unless you did something wrong you're trying to hide, then lie through your teeth, scumbag
TheTruthResistsSimplicity
That's where the "staying silent" part comes in.
nevermoregirl
I hate people being down right rude and uncooperative and then they're all "This cop is harassing me" when they're just keeping them safe
MadJackMcJack
I think too many people treat police like they are retail staff, then are shocked to find that doing that gets them into trouble.
AttorneyAtLager
Exactly, retail staff are more likely to handle things maturely and not beat and falsely arrest you because you said mean things to them.
GreyPocket
Retail staff? Like "can you please help me find the canned corn? Don't Taze me bro..."
wetdirt
More like, "if I yell at and berate this person long enough, I will totally get my way and/or some ass-kissing!" Tends to not work with cops
Cheesestick
Not only with cops, with every human being.
SpreadableDuckButter
Unless that cop is your brother-in-law. Then it is perfectly acceptable to call him a purple-willied ninny-pants.
laserkatt
Or tell him to tread lightly
Mycologics
This reply is so British.
franksthetankandbeans
Now that's funny!
gnasher1001
This, this and x1000 this! Too many idiots today that give the police crap, when politeness and respect would mean all's done in 2mins!
MeessterVal
That, that, and...
spacecowboyein
and never resist arrest or search even if it's illegal. fight it later through legal channels
robbinaustin
Yup. You WILL NOT win on the side of the road. You might beat the rap but you wont beat the ride if being a dick.
wingsofg
Depending on where you are - resisting an illegal arrest within the limits of proportion is f.ex. not illegal is Denmark..
juzsayin
Note: This only applies in The USA. Don't try the above in Australia
IgnatiusJReilly2601
What are you doing? Are you winding these guys up for fun? I don't mind taking the piss on occasion myself, but this isn't funny.
juzsayin
Wow, is your face going to be red when you go in search of the facts and find out your ignorance is greater than your ego.
TheOBanger
It wouldn't hurt too badly...but they would be thinking "for fuck sake, another American wannabe kid"
beerpig
Lawyer: It's not even correct in the US. I'm sure OP thinks they're being helpful, but the frisk stuff, e.g., is blatantly wrong.
mirdreams
What happens in Australia?
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mirdreams
Thanks.
IgnatiusJReilly2601
Wrong
filltininwithwords
Actually, you are required to give your name and address when you're stopped. Which firm do you work for? Or are you public?
juzsayin
Thank you. He obviously has no idea about Law, well Victorian Law anyway.
syphilisisabitch
Curious, how would it differ?
teddsy
If it's like the UK, Police have the right to stop and search you, regardless of reason
IgnatiusJReilly2601
That is not the case in Australia.
JediKnight
New York has a law like that, Stop and Frisk. But they're having issues with racial profiling via that law.
happyenough
In Britian we had a lot of trouble with the profiling that was occurring too, but they didn't change the law, they just pretend its stopped.
teddsy
Like how my Sikh friend usually gets "randomly" searched at airports
Bjorrie
well, you are all criminals, so I guess there's always probable cause ;-)
juzsayin
*Were. Things have changed slightly over the last 150 or so years.
Berethian
The US was a prison colony too.
BeatsMyWaffles
Actually started out more as an outcast colony. Not criminals, just usually people who wanted a fresh start.
Lanksalot
how is Australia different?
stanic
First thing first, you are turned upside down. Second, the first thing police officers do, is to check, that there are no NOPES nearby.
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IgnatiusJReilly2601
Wrong
unagiwarrior
And you guys are ok with this?
IgnatiusJReilly2601
Sorry, not you. That was a fair question. juzsayin has no idea what he's talking about. Australia is actually far more lenient than the US.
juzsayin
I'm not ok with it, but there isn't the public will to change it. Most, (like IgnatiusJReilly2601) are ignorant to the facts.
IgnatiusJReilly2601
Wrong
JediKnight
No right to remain silent, right to an attorney? That's no good... that's the sort of thing that causes false confessions.
IgnatiusJReilly2601
Don't worry, this guy is talking nonsense. Every single point he made is completely wrong. Australia's legal system is quite fair.
JediKnight
A country founded by criminals you'd think would be lenient to suspected criminals a bit.
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IgnatiusJReilly2601
Wrong
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IgnatiusJReilly2601
Wrong
skiphopbellyflop
Yes we do - Crimes Act 1958 (Vic) section 464C. This is a basic Human Right - it exists in all Australian states and territories.
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IgnatiusJReilly2601
Wrong
isthisthereallife
Found on tumblr- credit to brokenbalder. Also worth noting this is in regards to the US police force :)
tallestdwarfskinniestfat
I wish we had something like this in my country, having rights against ungrounded searches and arrests by police officers.
Quboid
You should make it clearer that this applies to the US, someone could wind up dangerously misinformed. Can you change the title?
TohruRokuno
To be fair, this doesn't always work in the US either.
TheDrySideOfThePenny
Inform me of my laws in the UK. I too want to slip through the filthy grasp of the law.
TohruRokuno
Just be a chav out on the estates. That should do it.
applesforjuice
I can go to a lady prison just by telling them I feel like a lady? Sounds fucking stupid
flapyerarms
I got frisked just for standing in a crowded street with a pal, they checked our underpants even... Not our socks though :)
MeessterVal
Is that where you keep your penis?
flapyerarms
btw in my country that's completely legal, I study law...
SilverJig
The smile makes me feel like something was hidden in your socks... xD Also, what country do you live in? If you don't mind me asking.
flapyerarms
are you a cop? haha
SilverJig
Haha, nope. :p Programmer of sorts.
flapyerarms
to answer your question, Serbia
SirScarface69
DOES NOT APPLY TO 70+ COUNTRIES! YOU WILL BE SHOT OR GIVEN TO THE LIONS
isthisthereallife
hahah I wish I could upvote you more than once
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randomowl23
What's incorrect about this?
witchzenka
A lot of these are your federal rights. They can't vary state to state - unlawful search and seizure is a constitutional right.
AIRBORNEALLTHEWAY
I wish I would have had this a few years ago. I was detained, Harassed, arrested for impersonating an officer, and slandered on the news for
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weeks. A month later they caught the actual guy who was doing it and you didn't see shit about it on the news. I almost lost my career.
mediocremedic
I would caution anyone against taking legal advice from people who aren't lawyers. These topics are a lot more complex than a few slides.
CrabWallet
Actually, this is all sound advice. Most lawyers who aren't in a criminal practice don't remember all this from law school.
NeverEndingStoryMachine
As a recent law school graduate, you're right, it is complicated stuff. That said, this is some really good information.
KeyChupp
As a European, why do you americans hate so much your cops? Why can't you just answer there question if you have nothing to hide?
mailau
I hate posts like this. My local police are great and I appreciate everything they do.
flyingeddies
We don't all hate the cops. :)
IncognitoMan
Because, as a former European colonies, our culture is to not trust the government and it's entities.
TheLastGreatCanadian
Because, in general they do
Yarnbomber
In my US state, our cops will twist anything against you. More than anything, an attorney is a witness.
saxicolous
I don't hate them but being of misc ethnic appearance they do have a tendency of being drawn to me and asking "you look familiar"
MrROFLKNIFE
It may be regional. Where I live, there's little to no crime, so I've always had nothing but good experience with law enforcement
betavirus
It always seemed to me, as I've lived all over, the less crime in the area, the more bored cops pulling folks over for going 33 in a 30.
ArdentSlacker
There are a lot of problems with the system, and a lot of insane laws. You cannot be expected to know if you have broken a law. You (1+)
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(2) cannot know if you have "nothing" to hide. And if you go to court, it will cost you a lot of money, and probably your job, win or lose.
authweight
Well if you're wealthy and white you're usually (not always) safe. But if you're poor or not white, then in some cities it's trouble.
purdyflower
Because many cops lie, do illegal things, and use their power to intimidate and bully and get away with it. Not all cops are bad, however!
filistene
Their entire country is based on the concept of individual freedom and resisting institutions like government and police.
thisisnotthegreatestusernameintheworldthisisjustatribute
Because they often abuse their power with no consequences and would rather give a speeding ticket than stop any other more serious crime.
meskarune
American police will use their power to hit on (harass) women and arrest people due to their race or sexual orientation.
saxicolous
Or get a free blow job from a stripper and arrest her before she can even swallow
Dragaroth
because we have very stupid people, KeyChupp. They think that everyone is out to get them, and cops are literally the devil.
FireBlade4K
If you have nothing to hide you dont need any rights.
ms2ar15
Move here for 6 months and you'll find out quickly.
KeyChupp
I moved there in 2008 for 2years, I'm here again since last year and will stay another year, i've only been in one encounter with police >
KeyChupp
And it went perfectly normal
shadowex3
Look up "Excited Delirium". Our police officers torture and kill SO MANY PEOPLE they had to invent a fake disease to cover it up.
RocknRootRanchcuzallwegotisrocksandrootsandafewtrees
Not true. We are trained to recognize this and deal with these people differently. We are human, you know. Not perfect.
shadowex3
You realise that you just PROVED MY POINT, right? Your "training" is for a disease that isn't real, it exists solely to coverup taser deaths
shadowex3
There is not a single legitimate medical body which recognizes excited delirium, and not a shred of verified evidence of its existence.
shadowex3
It leaves no evidence, is diagnosed retroactively based on police action, and the wonderfully pathetic website for it even recommends tazing
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ford1svt
And all white people from your town are meth-addicted, welfare recipients who fuck their cousins.
saxicolous
Actually I live in San Francisco. It's an area where folks just don't study the law, they observe what really happens
selfish
Fuck you.
saxicolous
For real talk?
svenneve
That's a pretty bold claim without a source.
saxicolous
Source http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/03-923.ZO.html
Mooniverse
Now, if only there were recourse when the police broke the rules and violated your rights.
MrROFLKNIFE
Video tape, voice record, anything you can do to prove it
Pangs
Cops love that.
MrROFLKNIFE
You have a right to do it, also you can be discreet. Hit voice record, place the phone down and go about the interaction as normal
AnthonyStark
1. Bend over.
Drpurrpurrpurr
There is recourse. Lots of it.
iliketurtlez
Whatever you do, save the fight for the courtroom, if you stay calm and comply your defense will be easier.
kmikl
Lawyers. Good ones. True story.
YallMothafuckasNeedCheeses
What if you're too broke to get a good one?
JohnDildo
Better call Saul.
kmikl
Most will work on a contingency for a portion of the settlement. 15-20% is worth it.
CharlesFuckingBronson
If it's on film, the case WILL get thrown out in court
CrabWallet
There's lots and lots and lots. Civil suits are best, and you can get way more money than you're entitled to.
jaykaywhy
If they obviously violated your rights, and no reasonable police officer would have done the same thing, they can be civilly liable (1)
jaykaywhy
and the right was clearly established
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under 42 u.s.c §1983, or bivens claim for federal actors. The plaintiff/aggrieved party has to show that a right was violated (2)
CerebrawlHemmorage
No, the police district can be civilly liable, the individual officer has qualified immunity.
jaykaywhy
Yep. But qualified immunity can be overcome, albeit difficult.
NeverEndingStoryMachine
Very, VERY difficult.
jaykaywhy
That's why its "qualified" immunity, as opposed to "absolute" immunity.
ToxicPineapple
What we need is an independent review of all police brutality cases. None of this "internal investigation" bullshit. How often does an 1/?
ToxicPineapple
horribly corrupt system where they can, and do, get away with murder. As I said elsewhere... I believe 90% are good cops, but 10% are not.
ToxicPineapple
internal affairs investigation find ANY wrong doing against police? Not very often. Police are a brotherhood, which means they do what 2/?
ToxicPineapple
it takes to look out for each other, even if it means breaking the law or covering up for someone who does. They are a part of a 3/4
FiveDollars
As a white straight Christian man, how can I get in on this special category prisoner thing? It sounds useful.
RocknRootRanchcuzallwegotisrocksandrootsandafewtrees
Anyone in our jail can request what we call protective custody. So yes, Mr. White, straight, Christian man, you can get in on this, lol.
IMMADOGWOOF
Holy crap, WTF is with Imgur today? You make a funny joke and suddenly you are the cause of the world's problems. Ignore them, it was funny
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ThatsMySecretCapImAlwaysHorny
He just wants someone to say he is special.
niggafromhell
Say something that upset a woman and get accused of rape.
niggafromhell
And now you see how that works.
SasquatchChief
*cop walks up* "Hey man, how's it going?" "Uh, am I free to go??" "*sigh* yes..." Poor policeman. Must be a lonely job.
NotaCop12345
Seriously! I work in law enforcement and a lot of times we just want to chat, lol.
TohruRokuno
Is that why you pulled me over, officer? I wasn't speeding, I was in my lane, I wasn't breaking any motor vehicle laws.
Untelo
Am i free to go?
Bjorrie
and sometimes you don't just want to chat, why take the risk? Just to make your day a little better?
DroopyTheDawg
If he just wants to chat he's not gonna ask about what drugs you're carrying, I'm pretty sure there's no risk in talking about the weather.
Bjorrie
But if he doesn't just want to chat, he's probably not going to lead with that either.
ToxicPineapple
I live in a city where most cops are assholes. Our police have a history of corruption and citizen abuse, thus I do not trust them at all.
Ducatij2012
Must be D.C. Those in law enforcement here are Arrogant and act like they can do anything. You say a word to them and they say "move along"
ToxicPineapple
Which sucks, because I usually like to talk to police... Just not these guys.
tarataqa
"I live in a city where most cops are assholes." LOL. Welcome to AnyCity, U.S.A.
ianpaschal
If every other cop I met wasn't an asshole, I wouldn't be tempted to do this.
SasquatchChief
Most I've met have seemed like they're probably decent humans. Except the one who arrested me when I was 18...how dare he?! Nah, he was okay
tarataqa
All the cops I know were C students with me in high school and went into the police instead of college. They love the power over others now.
BrianBaker
Police where I live require higher education if one expects to make it past patrol officer rank. Not all cops are thugs.
ianpaschal
2. bully and actually enjoy it. More seem to be the latter it's impossible to respect that.
ianpaschal
1. Yup. From my experience they all either: A. Treat their job as a hassle and a burden and take it out on citizens, or B. Power trip and
TohruRokuno
There was a Sarah Silverman sketch like that.
WinterBorn
I have a 4-year degree and graduated top in my class in neuroscience and behavioral genetics. Not all cops are uneducated
tarataqa
That's awesome to hear! Congrats, you are the 1%.
WinterBorn
If every other cop you meet is an "Asshole" cop, the problems is on your end. I can tell you I'm always polite unless you make me not be
ianpaschal
(2/2) "No, sir," then we won't have any issues and everything goes smoothly.
ThaBlink
Really? Then why do cops circle you like sharks just for walking while brown?
ianpaschal
(1/2) Right. As long as I subordinate myself to you, don't act like a grown-up and your equal, and reply to everything with "Yes, sir," or
WinterBorn
4) And you won't remember me for being nice. Its just a job. Let me do it, and I'll be out of your hair quick as lightening.
WinterBorn
2) All I want is for you to let me do my job. We are both adults but you are not my equal in enforcing the law. So shill, let me do my job
WinterBorn
3) And I will be just as polite to you as you can wish for. But be a dick, cause problems just for the sake of arguing...
ImJustHereSoIDontGetFined
This. This is why people hate cops. I'm required to comply. I am not required to be polite and my not being so should not affect (1)
WinterBorn
1) I'm not getting into a debate here, so all I'll say is this. I don't care if you call me "sir" or not. You can answer yes, no, whatever..
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IgnatiusJReilly2601
Some people are just never going to get it.
TheGloriousLordPlaschka
Being a military policeman, I can attest to this as being true. *Sigh* Why is it so lonely?
xars
Not all officers are dickheads, there's just enough of them where its a problem
garehh
No wonder they plant evidence, they just want to talk :(
Treebearded
In Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968), the Supreme Court of the United States held that police
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the person detained may be “armed and dangerous”. When a search for weapons is authorized, the procedure is known as a “stop and frisk”.
Treebearded
may briefly detain a person whom they reasonably suspect is involved in criminal activity; the Court also held
Meghantron1
I really don't like how it encourages people NOT to cooperate with police. Why would that be a good thing?
toosmartbyhalf
Because fuck the police
JohnDildo
Because police frequently coerce confessions of guilt out of innocent people by intimidation. Excuse me for not putting myself at risk.
Meghantron1
Most of the police I've encountered (not a small number) have been nothing but helpful. They mostly want to do their job, not screw you over
Treebearded
That's not actually how it goes in the USA. Stop and frisk is legal, and so are Terry stops.
Treebearded
That's not actually how it goes in the USA. Stop and frisk is legal, and so are Terry stops.
lashwater
I often wonder how police in patrol cars (or people in cars that look like ummarked patrol cars) ever get anywhere on time.
parallaxis
Talking to the police may be hazardous to your health: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
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GodIsDeadLongLiveDog
AMERICA!!
craz3d
lonely job for power hungry sobs
cattaclysmic
*cop walks up* "How's it going?" "Am I free to go?" "Well, i just wanted to chat but now you gave me reasonable suspicion."
tarataqa
Sounds reasonable. I'll allow it.
Anononononon
Actually legally the refusal to answer questions is not reasonable suspicion of a crime.
cattaclysmic
But trying to get away is!
shadowex3
That second word there... yeah, you're going to have a problem if you think the world actually works that way.
ShiKageMaru
The rules that we try to live by are kind of like board game rules, but that doesn't mean they don't still count in disputes.
JohnDildo
Also, you don't need to ask if you're free to go if he asks how you're doing. Just nod/wave, say good, and walk away. It's not a crime.
tarataqa
NO HABLA INGLES, PUTA MADRE!
TohruRokuno
Then you get tackled and tazed while walking away.
blewinfromstupidtown
Can I just act like Skyler and shout "AM I UNDER ARREST?" until I make it awkward enough to storm out?
notasrelevant
While a little too energetic, she did kind of handle it correctly...
harblhotel
I wouldn't shout it, but yes, you can state it as much and as akwardly as possibly till they let you go or otherwise.
JediKnight
Marie... SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP. SHUT UP!
F0rger
To be fair, I've been waiting for someone to tell her that.
1800hello5
I was hoping shed put the cigarette out in her eye...but thats just me
JediKnight
I've been TELLING her that. She didn't hear it until Skyler said it, though.