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ravnsulter
7 generals :)
Crazycoke1994
Literally shooting themselves in the foot over absolutely nothing.
Huor
Putin conveniently justified NATO's existence.
ImgurCouncilOfLlamas
Cool, so NATO can go fight him and he can't complain.
mithiwithi
Technically, NATO is involved, but only in sending war materiel. You could say they're literally mailing it in.
kingraid01
THE POWER OF MERIKA
BananaGiraffeStar
Note to Russia. Noone wants to take your shitty country. We just want you not to kill others or going around stealing land from others.
nothingpt
If these fucktards didn't have nuclear, they've already been transformed into sunflowers
OriginalAndWitty
This is what happens when you put a brainwashed ex-KGB agent in charge. The USSR and cold war never ended for Putin.
PDXDragon
The Soviet era was the best time of his life. YouTuber "Inside Russia" said, "Go back to the USSR Putin. Just don't take the rest of us."
amb1021
It's pretty frustrating that Russia won't grow tf up. It's not the 18th century anymore, dumbfucks, and NATO is a VOLUNTARY alliance.
congressionalbitch
ObliqueRay
Source: Halogen - U Got That. Apparently there are a whole bunch of these videos.
jakkejakke22
A man in Moscow buys a news paper, looks at the cover and throws it away. "Why didn't you read it?," the vendor asks.
jakkejakke22
"I only read the obituaries," he replies. "They aren't on the cover." "The one I'm looking for will be."
Broonstar
Its not an obituary, its a special election
lostknight0727
You could call this a Stragedy. Strategy that ends in tragedy.
Gantzz321
Nato losses - ZERO, I see now that Putin and Trump had the same KGB agents instructing them on how to lead
gumblemuntz
"Why don't you pass the time by playing a little Solitaire?"
LoyalToTheEnd
houpbajoup
"Don't look at this wall, the joke's in the Kremlin"
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treefrog
Too soon
justhereforthemimes
It’s not too soon for political commentary
theimgurappsucksballs
SneakorsMcSneakorsface
I'm confident both have more then 4; Russia has a lot more.
klean9
Russia with a population size between Mexico and Bangladesh, a GDP the size of Texas. He’d be nothing without his nukes.
CappucinoDrunkard
Those numbers make it seem like Russia has lost a lot already
Fargus57
Based on early predictions (Russian numbers and supposed military superiority) that Ukraine would fall in a week, yes they have lost a lot
Mohareb
That's the joke. They've lost so much and have far more wounded. Their army is being pushed back in places by now
SnoopyDancing
if the troop number is correct, they have lost as many soldiers in 1 month in Ukraine as they did in the Afghanistan war which was 10 years
KilljoyNE
The # is almost certainly not correct. US estimates put 15k as the max more likely 7-10k (tho getting an accurate # is nearly impossible)
SideEffectsOfJuice
Can't someone translate "btw" to me here? I've never seen it used as anything else except "by the way" and it doesn't fit
lelevup
"between", I think
lilmookie
between. I've mostly seen between as b/w
mandiblesarecute
between
SideEffectsOfJuice
In hindsight, I should have been able to work that out. In my defense, I suck at working things out.
mandiblesarecute
don't be too hard on yourself and enjoy the hindsight
SideEffectsOfJuice
5/7 perfect response
NoIWillNotFixYourComputerWhenIComeOverForDinner
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jamieb03303
Newfangledtomfoolery
ThaWhiteRanger
Dodge Dip Dive Duck and Dodge
ExtraWoody
StubbDubya
dontmagpie
SuperKamiGuru11
You son of a bitch. Well done
honk7
imasneakypineapplehead
Ok it’s not my friend this time, it’s me I’m the stupid one. What does this mean
AthynLore
bold strategy cotton. a reference to a meme
AthynLore
imasneakypineapplehead
Damn, I was like bulb strategy. Should have gotten that.
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
Theonlyyeti
Can you imagine history students trying to price together something like this in the future....what does it mean.
Hrafna55
It must have "ritual significance". I think that is the go to answer when archeologists don't know what something is.
Theonlyyeti
The primitive savages would dance around a phone wearing their ceremonial face coverings chanting "cotton cotton COTTON"
NotAllWhoWanderAreLostButIAm
Please remember that those numbers are according to Ukrainian/western propaganda and almost surely not even close to the reality.
dontrike
*Looks at Russia's totally not propaganda of 500 deaths* Think I'm gonna have to go with Ukraine if those are the two choices.
NotAllWhoWanderAreLostButIAm
Hey, I'm not saying Russia is telling the truth either :) Honestly I think it's somewhere in between.
dontrike
And it's more likely closer to Ukraine's numbers.
nemocares
Please remember that the exact numbers don't really matter for the joke.
NotAllWhoWanderAreLostButIAm
Well, it kinda does, because it makes Russia look weak, which I think may not be entirely true. I don't think Russia engaged all they can.
nemocares
Compared to what everyone expected Russia is weak. Whatever reserves they have available simply decide how weak exactly.
Partsx
its FACT that russia themselves accidentally admitted to 10K deaths on a main russian news site, which deleted the article a few hours later
NotAllWhoWanderAreLostButIAm
Never heard of that. A link or a screen ?
NotAllWhoWanderAreLostButIAm
I'm just saying that the western media also lie, as much as the Russian ones. Also where is the freedom of word if everything from Russia is
Kopar
"as much as the Russian ones" LOOOOL
jakkejakke22
People in Russia go to prison if they say Russia is invading. We here can freely call Putin a war criminal.
PiggyWobbles
yeah man everything is fake except for what you feel is true
NotAllWhoWanderAreLostButIAm
Instantly rejected , blocked or regarded as propaganda and lies ?
damogen
Because whenever we get a chance to verify information we see that Russia lied and Ukraine was at least close to accurate.
OliverClothesoff70
Because Russia LITERALLY invaded a sovereign country? Or maybe because Russia lied to the world for weeks saying they were NOT going to?
NotAllWhoWanderAreLostButIAm
Hey, I'm not saying Russia is right or that I'm siding with them. I'm just saying the western world isn't flawless & 100% truthful.
jakkejakke22
Russia is a totalitarian state that uses lies as a hybrid warfare. Democracies of the world have freedom of speech.
NotAllWhoWanderAreLostButIAm
We have just one side of the story here, and you're badly mistaken if you think everything western media say is the truth.
Kopar
You poor, poor lost man. You've fallen hard for a 'both sides are equal' fallacy. It's not even close. You're not actually engaging in any
Kopar
2/ worthwhile discourse here, all you're doing is showing you haven't been paying attention at all if you think we only have "one side of
nemocares
If what you have may not be the truth, then seek the truth. Don't dump a massive load of known lies on top expecting that to help.
NotAllWhoWanderAreLostButIAm
I did not drop any lies. I simply stated you shouldn't believe everything on western media right away.
ZaphodBbx
The Big Lie here is Russia needing a defense against NATO. NATO isn't designed for offense; it's structured around mutual defense.
Elroydb
We literally offered them a spot in the 90s
nemocares
"We can't have NATO in Ukraine, right on our border!" says country already bordering five NATO countries...
FuzzyX
Not to forget his claim to denazify a Jewish democratic president who had lost family in the Holocaust.
zerovanity59
Most alliances start as defensive. A few years of targeted propaganda, and the US could be leading a 30 nation Army into Moscow.
ZaphodBbx
Picture NATO occupying new land...exactly which member nation would get control of it? Putin is staging a land-grab in Ukraine...again.
Tjitso
Everyone knows offense is the best defense /s
ciscoxing626
I'm pretty sure if given the choice every single Russian would choose the NATO countries system over Putin's dictatorship
SadOldWhiner
Russia doesn't need a defense against anyone. Who the fuck would want any of their territory? It's all barren wasteland.
AFriendlyNeighborhoodJerkface
That’s why Putler sees it as a threat. A strong, united collective is harder to intimidate or conquer than several unaffiliated countries
AFriendlyNeighborhoodJerkface
It’s why he sees it as so important to destabilize the organization as a whole (or at least weaken it) as well as destabilize member nations
joffarbb
NATO has changed their strategic doc several times. Big changes from 1991: https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_56626.htm
Oprean
Exactly, and who'd attack a nuclear power with ground forces?
Asmor
It's not a lie. When your goal is to attack people, mutual defense is offensive to you.
CandidGamera
This. Yes, it was founded to defend specifically against the "Soviet Union" (which we now have all but confirmed officially was nothing but>
CandidGamera
< Russian Imperialism) but it's not like Russia isn't giving the world and especially its neighboring countries plenty of reasons to want ->
CandidGamera
<- to position a defensive system against their aggression.
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RetroSicotte
By that I presume you mean the lives saved from Gadaffi who had openly declared his intent to massacre them.
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RetroSicotte
Well, yeah. The difference between the West and Russia is they A) Know how to aim and B) Don't deliberately drop cluster bombs on civilians.
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IOnlyNeedOneBall
So mad they fired him. He was God damned electrifying.
elusivekarma
What's this from? Looks familiar, but can't place it.
Lakeboy
American Gods
OdeToBouncer
Really absolutely stomped over every scene he was in. By far my favorite character. Moonmoon, or wth his name was and zombie wife were bad.
ZaphodBbx
I read/heard that it was 'artistic differences'. And I agree that his character was a strong one that I wish they'd kept.
Ultratoxic
Well yeah, an authoritarian always needs an enemy. Even if NATO had "for defense only" in it's name, poots would still claim it was a threat
somethingawesomeandgreat
Operation Allied Force was to stop genocides also
rbudrick
Not exactly. It was not strike first, but it is certainly designed to do anything "necessary." This includes nukes.
RetroSicotte
Above a certain scale of conflict, to defend against a nuclear power, you need to have your own. A tragic reality.
leperoutcastunclean
Nukes ruined everything.
pseudopseudonym
Russia's army is structured way more defensively than NATO and that sure as shit hasn't stopped them from deciding to kill people with it.
dontrike
Russia's army isn't structured in any way. Putin and the higher ups practically neutered the whole thing.
ZaphodBbx
But the reason that's possible is the single point of control, Putin. NATO lacks political unity. NATO can't annex land and make it NATO.
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FuzzyX
This is exactly why Putin claimed Ukraine was planning to invade Russia where his own invasion was to stop them two days before they started
RaeveKongen
True. But then a bunch of NATO countries invaded Iraq with the same kind of weak excuses Putin uses now. Don't get me wrong, fuck Putin 1/2
RaeveKongen
2/2 But we did some questionable stuff that undermined the whole 'defensive' alliance
damogen
“Some NATO countries” isn’t NATO. If an MMA fighter assault someone, his MMA club isn’t responsible for the assault.
Ibringchocolate
Fair point.
shorey66
It's not a fair point because Iraq was nothing to do with NATO at all.
SlowboatToShortbus
The invasion of Iraq 1 and 2 was not a NATO mission. The only time NATO's Article 5 was invoked was after 9/11.
RaeveKongen
No it wasn't. But a bunch of NATO countries just happened to band together and invade another country with 0 valid reasons
FuzzyX
That was a few independent countries. Believe me when I say the day NATO invokes article 5 that every NATO country will move as one.
msd3k
So, by your logic, the Climate Accord is responsible for fighting ISIS. Everybody that signed it was against ISIS. Pretty clear cut, really.
SpoilsburyToastMan
It was still fuck all to do with NATO. That was down to the UN security council. Russia is only in the UN. Many countries are in both.
LemonToAKnifeFight
3 Baltic states were added in 2003 in exchange for sending troops to Iraq. To add legitimacy to the Iraq invasion by building a coalition.
Nyther53
I dont know that there were 0 *valid* reasons, Sadam Hussein being an oppressive genocidal dictator, but there certainly weren't good reason
blaghart
If "genocidal dictator" is the only requirement to justify invading a nation then basically every country is legit to invade.
Nyther53
Especially not to proceed to fuck it up as thoroughly as we did by throwing out the pre-war plans for what to do with Iraq Post war at the
lehenry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia
lehenry
The argument used by NATO for this intervention was latter re-used by Putin to justify Russia's intervention in Crimea
RetroSicotte
Difference is one was true and one was not.
lehenry
Sure, but it still means that NATO is not "just for defense of its member countries" and can decide to act outside of a UN mandate.