Aug 23, 2017 1:20 PM
FierceDeityMask
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41022954
EadEchiC
Ok, but Ha Ha Clinton-Dix is an OK name to have?
Theauthenticdonaldtrump
There's something fucky about taking out an Asian because his name reminds us of an old white guy.
SCP1504
"Is his name really a problem? If so, just call him Bobby Lee." "No, this way, we can stick it to the liberals, heh heh."
GlenL
In a world of "Nazis had military haircuts, you have a military haircut, QED you're a Nazi" anything is possible.
filthysholva
Fucking morons unfortunately!
PersonalityFire
You bunch of gullible motherfuckers.
CosplayComet
I refuse to believe this is real. Flat out refuse. Don't bother showing me proof, I still won't believe it.
DumpoldRant
It's not real, it's just fake news for the alt-right to be outraged and offensed about.
suik
"Y'all jokers must be crazy"
Dots77
Oh god this is priceless.
sparkingfuse
we're becoming a nation of "don't offend anyone at any cost"
EbeyTechLLC
Name-ist
thevoiceofreasonsometimes
Plot twist: his middle name is Ezekiel
WayneVan1972
That's not really a twist. Just more of the same.
wowthatwasquick
Sum Ting Wong, Ho Lee Fuk, and Wi Tu Lo, know all too well about this....
Applepotamus
was a guy at my high school named phuc yu
Appel99
Don't forget Wun Hung Lo
fencer1964
And Ding Bang Ow.
XXXSabreXXX
How about phucme762.
Pauly79
It's Bang Ding Ow, not Ding Bang ow
xcopperx
Is that legal?
MisterSmithster
Fuck this planet. I'll take my risks on mars. Who is in?
BiggestBlackestBeard
His name was Robert Ree.
nothingtodoandalldaytodoit
Waiting for the news story about him winning a massive lawsuit for wrongful termination.
sdfsdfss
He wasn't fired tho
Vertisce
ESPN is going to get a lot of shit for this.
AStrongFemaleCharacter
Liberal here. They should get a lot of shit for this, it's straight up bullshit.
Corrodias
It is actually bullshit, in the sense of "isn't true", as presented, anyway. The official word is that they offered and he agreed to swap.
Oh, they deserve it too. Personally, I think it's grounds for the guy to sue ESPN.
Absolutely.
Why would he sue when he agreed to be switched to another game so people wouldn't turn him into a cheap joke?
IronicUsername
Both of you are gullible morons http://www.snopes.com/2017/08/23/robert-lee-espn/
He wanted to do it. They offered to let him change assignments, and he agreed.
prisoner6defaultxskyrimxname9
More like they brought it up to him and he agreed because they offered him a different game. Still pretty fucked up that it happened.
Really? Well, that's different. Is there an article about that?
Yeah, where was it... USA Today, I think? Damn, it's not so easy to find in my history...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/08/22/espn-pulls-announcer-robert-lee-off-virginia-game-charlottesville-protests/592458001/
whiskeyvillage
ESPN is such a pansy-assed network. Slightest little non-PCness and they tuck their dicks between their legs and run.
OkramTheBarbarian
Must be a fun workplace, NOT
Are you saying that based on this one non-issue blown out of proportion, or are you basing it on some history they have?
edkeene988
Absolutely agree, ESPN thinks they are the speaker for the sports world. You suck and we don't care about your lame ass opinions
gibsonguy77
Exactly. They're about as influential as shitty cable news these days.
cormacmccarthyreviewsdottiescafe
They have so much political capital to spend tho. You can't just go elsewhere for their programming.
Wrong. All of their content is available elsewhere.
Legally?
Mostly. NFL Network is far better for football. You just have to look for the other stuff.
He's announcing college football. It won't be on any other networks. NFL network doesn't play the ESPN mnf at the same time as ESPN
garghuul
Confused, mostly. But I'm only half American.
American is a nationality, not an ethnicity. You're either a citizen or you're not.
Dual citizen, but I was being silly.
Sorry, sometimes it goes straight over my head. +1
It's all good. I wasn't kidding about the confused part. ????
JamesBeapukin
Wow.
JasonForge
ATTENTION SHEEPLE!!! He left of his own accord, this was for one game only, and the execs gave him plenty of alternatives. Link in the reply
JPre35
in espn's own statement, said it was collectively agreed upon.
RexBry
Which comes right after: "Do this or get fired."
DuckThatBarks
Whether it was his decision or not it shouldn't have even been an issue.
DisgruntledFerret
Anytime anyone uses the word "sheeple" unironically, I sort of automatically mentally discard everything they've got to say.
Eh, I figured that this might've been one of the few appropriate times to use it. Unchallenged info was being spread, I tried to fix that.
zma123456
Wait why did they mentioned he is Asian? That was totally irrelevant here.
LooseyGooseyBrett
There's nothing wrong with calling someone Asian. It's not a derogatory term. I take pride when someone calls me Asian.
It's the perfect plot twist in a national drama about racism.
Syrmerlin
Besides, we have a picture.
Talligan
Because Lee is a super common korean surname.
farmguy69
Political correctness at its best/worst. Also that's why I quit watching ESPN a few years ago
BuzzKiIlington
"It hurt itself in its confusion"
Oukiwascool
No leeway!
PyllyNalleMissionaries
What is ESPN?
Vaanhalen
Every Shitty-idea Possible Network
itsreallyhardtofindausernamethatisnttaken
This is exactly the kind of shit that makes the whole PC movement look bad, the kind of shit that made Trump's voice resonate with people.
randian1030
Amen to the 2nd part. I don't want to defend Trump, but some progressives say such insane things about him they leave me no choice.
JoeySchwind
I'm all for the progressive causes but this is absolutely ridiculous
triedtothinkofausernamethatwasntalreadytaken
Worst part is no one asked for this ESPN just did it
I don't believe anyone demanded this, though. It's just some weird "precaution" they took.
Letinstinctprevail
PC culture is bad. It is political thought policing. Now they are actually passed legislature in Canada for this shit.
ChiefMcKembie
It will also likely get him elected for a second term if they keep it up.
dangerousDoc
Yeah and generally they are acting like the neopuritians from the 90s
MarioBoon
"generally"
YouWillNotLikeThis
If this is the sort of stuff that makes white americans vote for Trump then white americans are pretty fucking stupid
ThisNameLacksPunctuation
Because PC is feigned empathy for political expediency. REAL empathy doesn't spawn this shit. PC is a strategy; nothing more.
Ninjainslippers
It's cute that you use an unnecessary semicolon and some less-common words to feel smart.
ih8allofyou
someone piss in your cheerios or somthing;
thecolonels
Espn realized that with current news a Robert Lee would make for jests at their expense. This move brought to you by capitalism, not PC
TheRespectedContender
I'm sorry but if Trump's voice resonates with you then you're fuckin stupid.
PC is just about being courteous. Since when is that a bad thing? ESPN is not being courteous here. Liberals won't defend them, it's stupid.
PC is about "optics" for personal gain, not courtesy.
BioshockDaddy
Sometimes it is about courtesy. Other times is used for extremism. Most recent example would be the old military haircuts deemed as racist.
They're calling it the Hitler youth cut. Very common haircut during that era. Apparently hair can be racist...
Also I have this haircut. I used to shave my head. Neither myself or my hair are racist.
Verelse
PC is about groupthink, not courtesy
TheLDMan
Your idea of what PC is would be groupthink, others it's courtesy. Neither are wrong, they just apply differently.
ViolentVibrator
Courtesy is saying please and thank you, holding a door open for someone, being polite, etc. Having good manners does not mean being pc
Since PC is usually about language, can you provide examples of non PC terms?
No, it is always groupthink. It sanctions any noncompliant person, sometimes violently. The rules apply to some, but not others.
ChinaFerrariSexOrgyDeathCrash
I don't know if you're being serious.. PC is about being courteous? That's naive to the max
Here's the definition of the term. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Political%20Correctness
What's the opposite of being PC? Being vulgar? Referring to women as broads or bimbos? Referring to minorities as pejorative slurs?
No, that would be the opposite of common courtesy. PC is always part of an agenda for profit or power (aka public opinion). Treating (1/2)
Dictionaries disagree with you.
every person with respect should be obligatory, but that's definitely not what PC is going for in the first place
DeckhandAdmiral
The PC movement in its totality is wrong. It should not exist.
dastardlyhippo
This doesn't even seem PC to me, just a stupid move made by ESPN in an attempt to be part of a movement.
Ding ding. It doesn't help that their morning shit-talk shows are amping up (and continuing) the rhetoric about statues & "is NFL racist"
grumio
Yeah, but following him around with a crane to pull him out of public parks was a step too far.
Ellimem
It's also not entirely true. ESPN asked if he wanted out, he said yes.
hitstuff
As if he actually had a choice?
LocutusOfBored
When your boss asks if you want to go home early, you go home early.
Iirc the announcer had no preference
This "story" was leaked with incomplete facts in an attempt to embarrass ESPN and present a strawman argument about "liberals".
"We came to a mutual understanding" the boss says. Also I imagine he was concerned about a pack of crazy "Nazi punchers" attacking his home.
ShimmyShimmyYahShimmyYamShimmyYay
And it's not like they fired him. They reassigned him to a different game. Probably shouldn't have replaced him with Alan Hitler though.
Whatwhatsomethingbutt
ESPN thought he might be subject to ridicule, memes etc... Could derail his career, make him famous for bad reasons. Let him switch.
naruku
Eh, I don't think his name is a big enough deal to have some memes derail his career
My understanding is his low stature is exactly why they worried. A distraction for broadcasts and he's not big enough to overcome it.
IAmDrBanner
That is probably like when someone is invited to leave or asked to resign.
madmanmoe64
not fired, just not working on a specific game.
http://www.snopes.com/2017/08/23/robert-lee-espn "A company was cautious in the wake of tragedy so better vote for an authoritarian buffoon"
NoNightDigging
http://www.snopes.com/2017/08/23/robert-lee-espn/
Tetragrammaton
Thank you.
If anything it would have been a bunch of memes. I don't know what kind of ridicule they thought he would get if he stayed there...
"It was about the reasonable possibility that because of his name he would be subjected to memes and jokes and who knows what else. "
" No biggie until someone leaked it to embarrass us and him. They got their way." And look, it worked, tons of morons on here believing it.
Didn't take much to get the alt-right into a frenzy. Just a fake news story about a sports reporter. The comments here are hilarious.
iUpvoteAss
The people downvoted this comment are the morons, oh and I guess the people who will be downvoting this comment are the morons too
ThrowawayHBS
Ok but this imgur post didn't say that he was fired, just pulled.
Pulled would also be incorrect. He was switched to report a different game on mutual terms for his benefit.
Semantics. He was pulled from that event and put on another one. The important thing is that he wasn't fired.
He didn't get fired and I don't believe the source says he did. The fact that they had to reassign anything is from pressure to offend.
Not wanting to be the butt of the internet's joke of the day is, I think, reasonable. Lee has no obligation to die on your hill.
LoudBirb
But... they didn't reassign due to any pressure. This was ESPN expecting jokes to be made and acting preemptively.
Sandyundertones
Stop trying to make a reasonable argument for the concept of political optics. Don't you know that politics is only about outrage now? /s
FreddyBarnsniffer
This has got to stop.. why are people so on board with this crap.
"Celebrity opinions don't matter except when I find a black celebrity that chastises the rest of those uppity negros!" Charles Barkley [1]
isn't my fucking representative. I do care about monuments to those who pushed for me to be treated as less than a person. I'm well [2]
educated and haven't killed anyone and I am not responsible for those who can't say the same simply because we're the same skin color. [3]
v
EadEchiC
Ok, but Ha Ha Clinton-Dix is an OK name to have?
Theauthenticdonaldtrump
There's something fucky about taking out an Asian because his name reminds us of an old white guy.
SCP1504
"Is his name really a problem? If so, just call him Bobby Lee." "No, this way, we can stick it to the liberals, heh heh."
GlenL
In a world of "Nazis had military haircuts, you have a military haircut, QED you're a Nazi" anything is possible.
filthysholva
Fucking morons unfortunately!
PersonalityFire
You bunch of gullible motherfuckers.
CosplayComet
I refuse to believe this is real. Flat out refuse. Don't bother showing me proof, I still won't believe it.
DumpoldRant
It's not real, it's just fake news for the alt-right to be outraged and offensed about.
suik
"Y'all jokers must be crazy"
Dots77
Oh god this is priceless.
sparkingfuse
we're becoming a nation of "don't offend anyone at any cost"
EbeyTechLLC
Name-ist
thevoiceofreasonsometimes
Plot twist: his middle name is Ezekiel
WayneVan1972
That's not really a twist. Just more of the same.
wowthatwasquick
Sum Ting Wong, Ho Lee Fuk, and Wi Tu Lo, know all too well about this....
Applepotamus
was a guy at my high school named phuc yu
Appel99
Don't forget Wun Hung Lo
fencer1964
And Ding Bang Ow.
XXXSabreXXX
How about phucme762.
Pauly79
It's Bang Ding Ow, not Ding Bang ow
xcopperx
Is that legal?
MisterSmithster
Fuck this planet. I'll take my risks on mars. Who is in?
BiggestBlackestBeard
His name was Robert Ree.
nothingtodoandalldaytodoit
Waiting for the news story about him winning a massive lawsuit for wrongful termination.
sdfsdfss
He wasn't fired tho
Vertisce
ESPN is going to get a lot of shit for this.
AStrongFemaleCharacter
Liberal here. They should get a lot of shit for this, it's straight up bullshit.
Corrodias
It is actually bullshit, in the sense of "isn't true", as presented, anyway. The official word is that they offered and he agreed to swap.
Vertisce
Oh, they deserve it too. Personally, I think it's grounds for the guy to sue ESPN.
AStrongFemaleCharacter
Absolutely.
DumpoldRant
Why would he sue when he agreed to be switched to another game so people wouldn't turn him into a cheap joke?
IronicUsername
Both of you are gullible morons http://www.snopes.com/2017/08/23/robert-lee-espn/
Corrodias
He wanted to do it. They offered to let him change assignments, and he agreed.
prisoner6defaultxskyrimxname9
More like they brought it up to him and he agreed because they offered him a different game. Still pretty fucked up that it happened.
Vertisce
Really? Well, that's different. Is there an article about that?
Corrodias
Yeah, where was it... USA Today, I think? Damn, it's not so easy to find in my history...
Corrodias
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/08/22/espn-pulls-announcer-robert-lee-off-virginia-game-charlottesville-protests/592458001/
whiskeyvillage
ESPN is such a pansy-assed network. Slightest little non-PCness and they tuck their dicks between their legs and run.
OkramTheBarbarian
Must be a fun workplace, NOT
Corrodias
Are you saying that based on this one non-issue blown out of proportion, or are you basing it on some history they have?
edkeene988
Absolutely agree, ESPN thinks they are the speaker for the sports world. You suck and we don't care about your lame ass opinions
gibsonguy77
Exactly. They're about as influential as shitty cable news these days.
cormacmccarthyreviewsdottiescafe
They have so much political capital to spend tho. You can't just go elsewhere for their programming.
WayneVan1972
Wrong. All of their content is available elsewhere.
cormacmccarthyreviewsdottiescafe
Legally?
WayneVan1972
Mostly. NFL Network is far better for football. You just have to look for the other stuff.
cormacmccarthyreviewsdottiescafe
He's announcing college football. It won't be on any other networks. NFL network doesn't play the ESPN mnf at the same time as ESPN
garghuul
Confused, mostly. But I'm only half American.
AStrongFemaleCharacter
American is a nationality, not an ethnicity. You're either a citizen or you're not.
garghuul
Dual citizen, but I was being silly.
AStrongFemaleCharacter
Sorry, sometimes it goes straight over my head. +1
garghuul
It's all good. I wasn't kidding about the confused part. ????
JamesBeapukin
Wow.
JasonForge
ATTENTION SHEEPLE!!! He left of his own accord, this was for one game only, and the execs gave him plenty of alternatives. Link in the reply
JPre35
in espn's own statement, said it was collectively agreed upon.
RexBry
Which comes right after: "Do this or get fired."
DuckThatBarks
Whether it was his decision or not it shouldn't have even been an issue.
DisgruntledFerret
Anytime anyone uses the word "sheeple" unironically, I sort of automatically mentally discard everything they've got to say.
JasonForge
Eh, I figured that this might've been one of the few appropriate times to use it. Unchallenged info was being spread, I tried to fix that.
JasonForge
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/08/22/espn-pulls-announcer-robert-lee-off-virginia-game-charlottesville-protests/592458001/
zma123456
Wait why did they mentioned he is Asian? That was totally irrelevant here.
LooseyGooseyBrett
There's nothing wrong with calling someone Asian. It's not a derogatory term. I take pride when someone calls me Asian.
Theauthenticdonaldtrump
It's the perfect plot twist in a national drama about racism.
Syrmerlin
Besides, we have a picture.
Talligan
Because Lee is a super common korean surname.
farmguy69
Political correctness at its best/worst. Also that's why I quit watching ESPN a few years ago
BuzzKiIlington
"It hurt itself in its confusion"
Oukiwascool
No leeway!
PyllyNalleMissionaries
What is ESPN?
Vaanhalen
Every Shitty-idea Possible Network
Applepotamus
itsreallyhardtofindausernamethatisnttaken
This is exactly the kind of shit that makes the whole PC movement look bad, the kind of shit that made Trump's voice resonate with people.
randian1030
Amen to the 2nd part. I don't want to defend Trump, but some progressives say such insane things about him they leave me no choice.
JoeySchwind
I'm all for the progressive causes but this is absolutely ridiculous
triedtothinkofausernamethatwasntalreadytaken
Worst part is no one asked for this ESPN just did it
Syrmerlin
I don't believe anyone demanded this, though. It's just some weird "precaution" they took.
Letinstinctprevail
PC culture is bad. It is political thought policing. Now they are actually passed legislature in Canada for this shit.
ChiefMcKembie
It will also likely get him elected for a second term if they keep it up.
dangerousDoc
Yeah and generally they are acting like the neopuritians from the 90s
MarioBoon
"generally"
YouWillNotLikeThis
If this is the sort of stuff that makes white americans vote for Trump then white americans are pretty fucking stupid
ThisNameLacksPunctuation
Because PC is feigned empathy for political expediency. REAL empathy doesn't spawn this shit. PC is a strategy; nothing more.
Ninjainslippers
It's cute that you use an unnecessary semicolon and some less-common words to feel smart.
ih8allofyou
someone piss in your cheerios or somthing;
thecolonels
Espn realized that with current news a Robert Lee would make for jests at their expense. This move brought to you by capitalism, not PC
TheRespectedContender
I'm sorry but if Trump's voice resonates with you then you're fuckin stupid.
AStrongFemaleCharacter
PC is just about being courteous. Since when is that a bad thing? ESPN is not being courteous here. Liberals won't defend them, it's stupid.
Vaanhalen
PC is about "optics" for personal gain, not courtesy.
BioshockDaddy
Sometimes it is about courtesy. Other times is used for extremism. Most recent example would be the old military haircuts deemed as racist.
BioshockDaddy
They're calling it the Hitler youth cut. Very common haircut during that era. Apparently hair can be racist...
BioshockDaddy
Also I have this haircut. I used to shave my head. Neither myself or my hair are racist.
Verelse
PC is about groupthink, not courtesy
TheLDMan
Your idea of what PC is would be groupthink, others it's courtesy. Neither are wrong, they just apply differently.
ViolentVibrator
Courtesy is saying please and thank you, holding a door open for someone, being polite, etc. Having good manners does not mean being pc
AStrongFemaleCharacter
Since PC is usually about language, can you provide examples of non PC terms?
Verelse
No, it is always groupthink. It sanctions any noncompliant person, sometimes violently. The rules apply to some, but not others.
ChinaFerrariSexOrgyDeathCrash
I don't know if you're being serious.. PC is about being courteous? That's naive to the max
AStrongFemaleCharacter
Here's the definition of the term. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Political%20Correctness
AStrongFemaleCharacter
What's the opposite of being PC? Being vulgar? Referring to women as broads or bimbos? Referring to minorities as pejorative slurs?
ChinaFerrariSexOrgyDeathCrash
No, that would be the opposite of common courtesy. PC is always part of an agenda for profit or power (aka public opinion). Treating (1/2)
AStrongFemaleCharacter
Dictionaries disagree with you.
ChinaFerrariSexOrgyDeathCrash
every person with respect should be obligatory, but that's definitely not what PC is going for in the first place
DeckhandAdmiral
The PC movement in its totality is wrong. It should not exist.
dastardlyhippo
This doesn't even seem PC to me, just a stupid move made by ESPN in an attempt to be part of a movement.
Vaanhalen
Ding ding. It doesn't help that their morning shit-talk shows are amping up (and continuing) the rhetoric about statues & "is NFL racist"
grumio
Yeah, but following him around with a crane to pull him out of public parks was a step too far.
Ellimem
It's also not entirely true. ESPN asked if he wanted out, he said yes.
hitstuff
As if he actually had a choice?
LocutusOfBored
When your boss asks if you want to go home early, you go home early.
cormacmccarthyreviewsdottiescafe
Iirc the announcer had no preference
DumpoldRant
This "story" was leaked with incomplete facts in an attempt to embarrass ESPN and present a strawman argument about "liberals".
Vaanhalen
"We came to a mutual understanding" the boss says. Also I imagine he was concerned about a pack of crazy "Nazi punchers" attacking his home.
ShimmyShimmyYahShimmyYamShimmyYay
And it's not like they fired him. They reassigned him to a different game. Probably shouldn't have replaced him with Alan Hitler though.
Whatwhatsomethingbutt
ESPN thought he might be subject to ridicule, memes etc... Could derail his career, make him famous for bad reasons. Let him switch.
naruku
Eh, I don't think his name is a big enough deal to have some memes derail his career
Whatwhatsomethingbutt
My understanding is his low stature is exactly why they worried. A distraction for broadcasts and he's not big enough to overcome it.
IAmDrBanner
That is probably like when someone is invited to leave or asked to resign.
madmanmoe64
not fired, just not working on a specific game.
IronicUsername
http://www.snopes.com/2017/08/23/robert-lee-espn "A company was cautious in the wake of tragedy so better vote for an authoritarian buffoon"
NoNightDigging
http://www.snopes.com/2017/08/23/robert-lee-espn/
Tetragrammaton
Thank you.
naruku
If anything it would have been a bunch of memes. I don't know what kind of ridicule they thought he would get if he stayed there...
DumpoldRant
"It was about the reasonable possibility that because of his name he would be subjected to memes and jokes and who knows what else. "
DumpoldRant
" No biggie until someone leaked it to embarrass us and him. They got their way." And look, it worked, tons of morons on here believing it.
DumpoldRant
Didn't take much to get the alt-right into a frenzy. Just a fake news story about a sports reporter. The comments here are hilarious.
iUpvoteAss
The people downvoted this comment are the morons, oh and I guess the people who will be downvoting this comment are the morons too
ThrowawayHBS
Ok but this imgur post didn't say that he was fired, just pulled.
DumpoldRant
Pulled would also be incorrect. He was switched to report a different game on mutual terms for his benefit.
ThrowawayHBS
Semantics. He was pulled from that event and put on another one. The important thing is that he wasn't fired.
FierceDeityMask
He didn't get fired and I don't believe the source says he did. The fact that they had to reassign anything is from pressure to offend.
Corrodias
Not wanting to be the butt of the internet's joke of the day is, I think, reasonable. Lee has no obligation to die on your hill.
LoudBirb
But... they didn't reassign due to any pressure. This was ESPN expecting jokes to be made and acting preemptively.
Sandyundertones
Stop trying to make a reasonable argument for the concept of political optics. Don't you know that politics is only about outrage now? /s
FreddyBarnsniffer
This has got to stop.. why are people so on board with this crap.
IronicUsername
"Celebrity opinions don't matter except when I find a black celebrity that chastises the rest of those uppity negros!" Charles Barkley [1]
IronicUsername
isn't my fucking representative. I do care about monuments to those who pushed for me to be treated as less than a person. I'm well [2]
IronicUsername
educated and haven't killed anyone and I am not responsible for those who can't say the same simply because we're the same skin color. [3]
FreddyBarnsniffer