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If you bike on the road and blow red lights, slow down traffic, or bike on the highway (????) to hell with you. The roads were honestly built for cars.
I get that bikes can and should be used for transport, but you are honestly no more important than car drivers. I am more than fine sharing the roads but I'm tired or seeing bikers blow through lights or biking on a highway..
axtonthecomando55
I take side streets if I'm biking. No reason to block traffic . Some bike riders are complete idiots.
MissingknownDM
Has anyone else ever been tailgated in a bike lane? Still, I do agree with you, though.
MadHakon
The other side of the coin: don't pass a cyclist on a road without a shoulder if a vehicle is approaching in the other lane.
FAC47
As a cyclist, I couldn't agree more. I fucking hate it when douchers interpret, "share the road" as "ride wherever the fuck I please."
Thees
Exactly! You can't pick and choose which law you want to follow, when you want.
OneMoreLagerAndIMightLearnToLikeYa
Why do we upvote this shit
AidenLeftHome
I run a red light all the time where I live. Because it's after midnight and it doesn't sense a bike at the intersection and no walk signals
MERGATROYDER
But I'm just here taking a nice stroll at 5mph in a 35mph zone. Fuck you, haters.
Iggy45
I work in a area where a lot of bikers/triathletes live, and I can say that most of them (not all of them) are ass holes.
MarxAvenger
If there isn't a bike lane on a 4 lane (2 by 2) road, it's safer to bike towards the middle of the right lane to claim it.
MarxAvenger
Not doing so encourages cars to try and overtake you, which could result in you getting hit, and dying.
MarxAvenger
All of that being said, follow traffic laws fellow bikers. At least stop for reds and Idaho stop at 4 way stopsigns.
VIAI
Cakeisok
Even though I know it's not possible/feasible, it would help if more roads had bike lanes.
peopleperson
It's something they're working on pretty hard in my city (Toronto). They started adding bike lanes on a major DT street just this morning.
SpeedysComing
It's feasible. People need to break this mold that cars are the only way.
pepperronii
I commute to work on my bike to save money on public transport (2.75 per ride now.) Cars need to signal. I pay attention to that, too.
championofbreakfasts
Depending on where you live bikers have different rules, including some that let them 'blow red lights' in certain circumstances.
BLow30z
There's a lady that does this from lexington,ky, where there is an abnormally large emergency lane on a major roadway with a 55 spew limit
BLow30z
She's been the subject of a lot of debate in town and says she can't ride in the emergency lane because of gravel on the road. Fuck her.
Internetuser666
Drivers and cyclist break as many laws as each other, it's a human problem.
Cuntard
#bikelivesmatter
Tanishh
Gross oversimplification. Drivers go a little faster than they ought to and follow more closely than they should, and some don't signal.
Tanishh
Most cyclists I have seen ignore *all* stop signs and traffic lights and I'm sure they would speed too if it were possible without having a
Tanishh
heart attack. Between going 5 over and blowing through traffic lights, guess which is more dangerous?
previoustopcomment
2 Many stops exist only to slow drivers, not because there is heavy traffic, and it is impractical for a cyclist to restart every few blocks
previoustopcomment
they treat stops as yields because they have lower speed, negligible stopping distance, and 100% visibility.
RobertEmmet
Fuck you if you park your car in a bike lane
gettodachopper69
As someone who will never bike to work, fuck yeah!
DarkNinja2462
Dear OP, in the New York drivers manual, it says that bikes have as much priveledge to use the roads as cars do, and they must follow rules
nousernamesavailablemeow
Oh I def slow down traffic, I'm not in good enough shape to pull a constant 45 so fuck me then
idislikecomingupwithuniqueusernames
If you're doing that in rush hour? Then yes. You're a rolling lane closure.
waffle911
It's one thing to slow down traffic a little bit so they can safely pass you. It's another to make it impossible to safely pass you.
waffle911
Downvote? Seriously? I was saying he was fine doing what he was, he wasn't being the kind of asshat we're discussing.
Tyrannotron
If you don't bwlieve cyclists should be able to bike on the road, you're clearly not fine with sharing the road.
imprettysureimdoingthiswrong
Pretty sure OP means he hates people who ride in the road and don't follow the rules not all people who ride in the road
Tyrannotron
Considering that slowing down traffic is enough to get a fuck you from him, I don't think that's the case.
waffle911
"Slow down traffic" usually refers to cyclists who insist on taking up too much of the lane, making it impossible to safely pass.
polioroid
I bike to work through Manhattan most days. I stop at 90% of lights, specifically all 4-way intersections. I do my best to follow all (1/?)
polioroid
laws, but I hit 20 or so T-junctions with one way streets that make no sense for even the cars to stop at. I know I should stop at all (2/?)
polioroid
of the lights, but sometimes it just don't make no sense. I should note these are basically empty one ways. I hate bikers who don't (3/?)
polioroid
respect any of the lights. They give us a bad name. I try to do my part, and I know that sometimes I fail. For that I apologize.
MrMarksman
And if you refuse to make vroom vroom noises!
CanadianCanadianCanadian1
How about you fuckin motorists stop parking in the bike lanes?
AJWILLIKERS
And also to every other driver not following the laws (speed, signalling, following to closely)
illogicalphallusies
But if another car hits you while driver is being an idiot, their insurance pays. A biker being an idiot and runs into you...you pay
Lassannn
You didn't mean that "all due respect" part.
OneZebraInAHerdOfWildebeests
With all due respect, FUCK YOU LASSANNN
thesixthcourier
I'm guessing the second half of that phrase was silent... "with all due respect [which is none]"
mithiwithi
On the contrary, @OP meant exactly as much respect as was due.
peopleperson
Which is still, slightly more than drivers.
CATSandDRAGONS
Not a whole lot of respect due here
bond100
Sure he does. It's just that the "due respect" that they're due is precisely "zero".
kitterskills
Cars kill people. Bikes don't. Stop complaining.
waffle911
A car coming to a screeching halt for a bike running a stop sign nearly caused me to run into it on my motorcycle. So yeah, it could have.
Cheomesh
Getting hit by a bike can still kill you.
BeardyGlasses
Anything can kill you so your argument is invalid.
previoustopcomment
Probability, statistics and risk assessment are a thing, your counter is idiotic.
BeardyGlasses
The Darwin Awards beg to differ ;)
previoustopcomment
the Darwin awards are for single incidents, which puts the probability and risk for the population at next to nothing.
BeardyGlasses
Statistics are recorded only when they can be so all records are inaccurate when causes of death are concerned.
ourari
Lack of infrastructure for cyclists isn't the cyclists fault, but the (local) government's. Consider working together on getting it sorted.
harleenVT
Yes because going through red lights is totally the govs fault for not making it clear enough red means stop
AJWILLIKERS
I'll never understand why the design is get up to 40 for 1 min just to wait for 1 min at a light. Just make 20 whole time with roundabouts.
CanadianCanadianCanadian1
How about the cars stop parking in the bike lanes, and I'll stop running reds.
waffle911
Of the two, running red light or a stop sign on a bicycle is more likely to get you killed.
CanadianCanadianCanadian1
The red light yea, that's nuts. But a stop sign? Not so much. I only stop if there are cars around me. If it's totally empty, I don't stop
waffle911
Too many blind intersections around here. Nearly got into an accident on my motorcycle because a cyclist blew through a 2-way stop.
ourari
Fix the big problems first, then focus on getting them to behave.
Tyrannotron
I forgot how motorists don't break traffic laws ever.
waffle911
Motorists don't habitually run red lights or blow through stop signs like certain bad apples in the cycling community.
Tyrannotron
They do regularly break other laws, though.
waffle911
And that gives cyclists an excuse for putting themselves in situations to cause accidents and get killed?
rncd89
Dude! I nearly killed someone today because they thought it was convenient to follow pedestrian laws while biking
Tyrannotron
As far as I can tell from this thread cyclists are assholes if they follow car rules, pedestrian rules, or think they get their own rules.
KnightsAgainstOrganizedSeriousness
Hit them. They won't make the mistake twice and you won't be held accountable.
CanadianCanadianCanadian1
Lol are you an idiot? If you hit a biker you are fucked. Especially if they are hurt. Really really stupid advice. What, are u fuckin 12?
UserNameThatWasntTakenWhenIFilledOutThisField
In the U.S. (maybe not all states, but at least mine) if they aren't walking in a crosswalk they aren't pedestrians, you don't have to yeild
AJWILLIKERS
Depends on the country. That why in the states we call them "accidents." Nobody has fault in an oopsies.
CanadianCanadianCanadian1
In Toronto , unless it's glaringly the bikers fault, the motorist is boned.
AJWILLIKERS
Well you're welcome to run over bicyclists or pedestrains maybe while drunk here in the States and do like a year, tops.
KnightsAgainstOrganizedSeriousness
Sarcasm is lost in text, it seems.
CanadianCanadianCanadian1
Sarcasm is hard to pick up without hearing people's tone.
MadlyIrrelevant
This isn't a confession
Darkivan64
True, in another news, I clicked tour username by accident, you have a pony obsession, I shall follow you.
EasilyButthurtCitizen
Is it ever really a confession?
Akroasis
I know in Florida, bikes are considered vehicles. So they're supposed to be in the road, but no-one cares.
Moghul
Irrelevant; Your statement does not make this post a confession.
uhhhnowwhat
Same in California. Yet traffic laws aren't followed. As a cyclist who follows rules, they're made so we don't get run over. Plain & simple.
HappyShark
I like you
uhhhnowwhat
Thanks. It's more for our safety. Cars have metal shells, bikers (and motorcycles too) just have our bodies and stuff. If we crash... :(
aninterestingbuffalo
Not a confession, just bitching.
mcupobob
Maybe he hit a biker recently because of this?
FWAKADATHOOM
That would do it
cycleguru
As a cyclist I agree with everything except "roads were built for cars." They were built for transportation. If there is a bike lane, (1)
cycleguru
Stay in it. If not, stay close to the shoulder and don't be a douchebag. But that goes both ways.
ChloeRed
I'll agree with you there. I hate things like "car lane" "fast lane" being used when they are "lane" and "overtaking lane" here.
Billy2sweet
I hate seeing bike riders not stop for lights / stop signs.
Itsnotminehonest
For lights yes stop, but for stop signs? It is incredibly hard to stop and start all the time, and honestly there isn't the need.
Megapead
When driving I will stop at a stop, when biking I'll stop if there's a car,I check. It's a lot of effort to get going again 20km in the bike
fructoric
Why? Cars don't even stop at stop signs, and they are dangerous to others.
fayseman
Speaking as both a guy that bikes to work every day and someone that has hit a reckless biker breaking a red light in my car, it's a 1/2
AUMXC
Red light sensors won't pick up a bike, and stopping and starting is a lot harder to do on a bike. I don't think a full stop is necessary.
GentlemanTechnologist
As a cyclist I take full responsibility for my own safety (no-one else does). If I think I'll be safer going on red, I go on red.
corditedelite
Cars dont stop at stop signs eithwr
Cheomesh
Srs. About half the ones in my area that I go through are "rolling stops" for most people.
peopleperson
And yet give cyclists grief for doing the same thing. Most people don't care about "safety" they just want to be first.
aleister94
I hate almost getting hit by cars every time I bike because they cut me off when it's my turn
rustyspade
In Idaho they are not required to come to full stop at stop signs or red lights. "proceed safely" is what the law says.
cashalot
This. It's been proven that it's safer for bicyclists to yield at stop signs and red lights.
Ravben
Cyclist almost hit me, with me clear on the crosswalk. He saw it come on/me starting to walk in time to react so it was a clear decision.
Ravben
He was turning right on the side I was, so he almost side swiped me to boot. I actually had to jump back out if his way, the prick.
AJWILLIKERS
But at least you've never been stuck behind a bicyclist on the phone when the light turns green?
Billy2sweet
Ofc not, after I rev my engine they start to go.
tokomak
This HAPPENS? I pull over to use my phone 'cause I'd be scared shitless someone would hit me otherwise.
bamcockseverywhere
Yes. I've seen it
previoustopcomment
Lights yes, but stop signs are often put in to slow drivers in low traffic areas and are extremely impractical for cyclists to follow.
peopleperson
When drivers lean on their horn because I creep through a stop sign we arrived at at the same time and we're the only ones there... yeah.
tokomak
I'll slow down at an intersection, but the time/physics involved coming out of a full stop put me more at risk, so I'll avoid stopping.
SpeedysComing
People fail to understand this. We don't simply push a gas pedal and go. And still have to deal with the impatient asshole behind us.
Kemphis
Same here, my main priority when biking is to stay out of everyone's way and make it home alive.
F1Jester
Yep, I see a car, I avoid it. I'm commuting but also exercising. Terrifying how many up votes these comments always get.
tokomak
That is to say, I give right of way to whoever has it, be it crosswalks or other cars. Only after checking do I glide through.
zachtidmore
You can get a ticket for that
tokomak
I'll take my safety over a potential ticket for laws that police never seem to enforce on bikes. But yeah, there is that risk.
fayseman
spectrum. Bikers that dont yeild to cars or go slow at intersections are reckless. A complete stop at an empty intersection is impractical 2
gettodachopper69
Yeah, it's impractical for cars too douche, but it's important and it's the law.
previoustopcomment
Pushing the peddle down is far different than peddling back up to speed from a dead stop, Idaho stops should be the norm for cyclists.
tokomak
Coming out of a full stop on a bike is /more/ dangerous, jerkwad.
SpitAce
And picking up momentum after a full stop is the worst part
gettodachopper69
You're such an entitled little douche bag. You are why drivers hate bikers.
tokomak
I'm not being entitled, I'm being safe, for both of us.
Megapead
I suggest you actually commute 20-30km a day on a bike before complaining. Bikes go slow enough to be able to yield at a stop 1/2