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Feb 14, 2015 5:51 PM
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schubox
frankly, balancing a checkbook takes kindergarten math and a modicum of organizational skills. that is not what algebra class is for.
hwatL4bloopy
It was very dramatic I cried
GandalfTheUltraViolet
Y'know, as a teacher, I laughed and felt annoyed the whole way through.
CorgisButtsDriveMeNuts
Be free my niggas
The8obman
WarmGiggles
All these numbers and you still don't add up
Petitepal
OH MY GOD I'M SO GLAD I GRADUATED. Not being in school anymore is seriously the best.
LawAndIDGAFAboutEthics
In the teachers defense, balancing your checkbook is basically like dealing with imaginary numbers...
StormtrooperOfSickSpins
Powerchondria are the mitohouse of the cell
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Pyrowolf1
Nah, he was looking for Powerchondria, the mitohouse of the cell
ThatLemonStealingHorse
Youtried.jpg
aaront50
I lold thanks
iwanttobealurkerbutcant
Uhhh, ummmmm, uhhhhh, see what you did there.
WeShallDoubleOurEfforts
Carbon is the party animal of the periodic table.
OriginalCommenter938
You deserve more up votes.
InboxMeYourBeards
I had to read this several times before I understood. Then again, I've had nearly two bottles of wine so there's that
owlest
people who think maths is useless are so annoying and stupid
kncomics
YouCantKeepJetpackingAwayFromYourProblemsBrian
We learned it for a few weeks in 9th grade, but I don't remember most of it anymore. Checkbooks, taxes, etc. Taxes went right over my head.
kncomics
It was part of the curriculum. I'm not sure why it was taken out...
solosysygy
Let's be realistic: a class on taxes and checkbook balancing is way more dull than imaginary numbers. IMAGINARY. NUMBERS.
weeman5872
Calculus with complex numbers!
Dokramuh
How lazy can your parents be to not teach you the basics on running a household. It's like them not teaching you to do laundry/make your bed
ImgurFairy
Some just simply don't know how to do it themselves or assume the schools teach u how to do that. A lot of parents dont realize how
ImgurFairy
Important it is to teach their kids that while they're still young and a lot of kids dont realize that's a necessary life skill to ask about
Cupcakemaiden
Unfortunately not everyone has good responsible parents either.
Imadethisaccounttosay133
Not necessairly lazy, both my parents worked 80 hour weeks to pay the bills, so they didn't have the time or energy to teach me everything
Imadethisaccounttosay133
Thank god for the internet and basic problem solving abilities
McBook
Twive!
Jesusdo
No, the number you're looking for is threeve.
THEBESTUSERNAMEINTHEWHOLEWIDEWORLDEVERSINCETHEBEGINNINGOFTIME
I love you
McBook
I like you,too
iDrinkDrano
Yes, but one is used more by the common person.
YamatoIouko
School is suppose to be more than just surviving in the world.
iDrinkDrano
School should help you provide for Maslows needs from the bottom up, more or less. Sometimes it seems to do top down.
Trecares
Zero also.
TimeFoDat
Angrily scrolled down to write a checkbook balancing comment ... Damn looks like everyone has it covered.
bluecheesefries
Thought the first one was gonna go down a lil differently
InspectMyClouseau
that last one. i can picture this in my head. everyone very sad and such...
Dociousaliexpilisticfragicalirepus
I REALLY lost my shit at that one. Like laughing loudly alone in my living room.
eksoskel
But really though, imaginary numbers are like some of the coolest shit. Hella important too.
baronridiculous
Well, and also, he's not in vocational school, right? Art, music, literature, math, you're not learning welding. You're becoming educated.
aquaticMisanthrope
Also, what kind of school would EVER just introduce the concept of imaginary numbers without AT LEAST a week of buildup of the Algebra (1)
aquaticMisanthrope
behind it and why they're important. You don't just spring that shit on kids, man! I got those in Freshman year and I was fine with it (2)
aquaticMisanthrope
because they made sure we understood their importance and applications before we ever did a problem with them (last).
Drpurrpurrpurr
Balancing a checkbook is addition and subtraction. If you can't do that, how did you get as far as a class with imaginary numbers?
aliciazombie
I think the problem is kids don't know what they need to do. If they had one lecture on what they needed to do, they'd be set.
Drpurrpurrpurr
I think the problem is kids just wait for someone to tell them what to do, instead of figuring it out or ASKING.
Anononononon
Its actually not just that. Its paying attention to your income and expenses. Which is something everyone could learn.
Drpurrpurrpurr
Good luck teaching people the 'paying attention' skill.
rakeezy
Yeah, fuck people who are prepared. Fucking douches
XIXXXVIVIII
I want to punch #4 in the face so damn much.
IUpvoteYourCatPics
As a perfectionist, I will over study for this test if I damn well please!
Drsolders
Go for it, won't stop me from getting a 100 on the Bio final asshole. #curvekiller
eronth
Imaginary numbers are useful. Unless you would rather us not have a good way of creating electronics.
FMZerek
#8 Well fucking done.
crazydaisy13
My daughter got dress coded for wearing soccer shorts that were knee length...while surrounded by boys wearing the same that had no issues.
HavingABadDay
Did you bring it up to anyone's attention? You should, you really might expose some stuck up sexist values someone's been able to hide.
crazydaisy13
She also got in school suspension this year for wearing a Bowling for Soup concert shirt with the word beer on it.
errazzecka
Anyone else just want to go for a really long hike around the world for a few years and see all the cool places you've ever wanted to see?
FunCinnabun
I'm down, yo. I propose Iceland.
errazzecka
Cool, as in cold, as in the temperature, not your attitude
MnemonicMonkeys
Imaginary numbers are useless? WTF? How about I take your computer and your car's suspension then, as those wouldn't be possible without 1/2
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ThatOneGuyWithTheAnnoyinglyLongUsernameThatSeemsToNeverEverEnd
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu231/HelloBeautiful--ox/2v8s760.gif
MnemonicMonkeys
those "useless" imaginary numbers. Stupid little shit. 2/2
Marxthird
Chill out, damn.
Anononononon
I think he means more outside of specific areas imaginary numbers aren't used where as everyone could use knowing basic accounting.
mrlemonofbanana
Basic accounting: 1) Make two columns. 2) Title them "Spending" and "Income" 3) Fill both and add each up 4) Check if "Income" > "Spending.
Anononononon
Including budgeting and preparing for unexpected expenses.
FeltMountain
To be fair, not everyone needs to know them?
poffli
This pissed me off so much!!! Yeah, lets just go and abandon everything related to complex numbers, oszillations, angles... to be fair.. (1)
poffli
(2) its probably the school systen, which fails to teach kids the importance and beauty of eulers theorems.
oldenoughtonotbedoingthis
No, it's a culture that's spent three generation telling kids that being good at math makes you a social pariah. The schools can't compete.
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rekcilthis1
"Wait... why are we learning algebra? I'm clearly a fucking clown and should be learning how to juggle" what he really meant.
FunCinnabun
And literally everything with a circuitboard.
MoonPotadoh
Yeah, you know, imaginary numbers are kind of useless for people not going into a field where they have to know them. Especially (1/2)
MoonPotadoh
when they're taught in the place of everyday life skills like cooking or doing taxes. So many new adults experience anxiety because (2/3)
MoonPotadoh
they haven't learned how to function outside of an academic setting.
PhiIIipJFry
learning anything complex and exercising your mental faculties is never useless
stinkiinki
Thank you. That one always bugs the shit out of me.
dizzyplaya
Chill out hot damn.
lolimserious
Imaginary numbers are useless *for most people to learn. Yes.
H0dari
Checkbooks are actually a very outdated method of payment.
DoctorOwly
Balancing a checkbook helps teach you how/why to pay attention to your fiances. I used them until I trained myself then switched methods.
steely94
Eh, they're still very widespread in certain businesses. The more practical ones, anyway. Not that they'd be using many imaginary numbers.
cogs
I fully expected #1 to turn into porn. This place has ruined me.
Calyrica
My favorite day of junior high was learning about imaginary numbers in algebra. No joke. I begged our teacher to teach us more about them.
Anononononon
I let my homework on fire....
JustARichard
I DON'T CARE, I LOVE IT
Irishda
Apparently he needs to not let all his homework on fire
belligerentrightdoer
He's about to let his bed on fire. His whole dawn house might get let if he's not careful.
Pencillin
brit spotted
SomeWateryTartThrewASwordAtMe
Who needs to balance a checkbook, online banking does it for you now!
rainbowcoloredpoop
"Oh look, I have 200 euro left this month. This is going to boost my interest on my savings account by 2 cents. Awesome!"
whitter86
I don't know if you know this, but banks do make mistakes.
probablydrunk69
What a time to be alive.
TheCrowFather
I record payments before my bank does it. Also I have multiple account, checking, saving, credit cards, ect. In 1 place.
TheThingNoNotThatOne
Yeah. And some kids like math and learning how to use imaginary numbers will be helpful to them. But continue being self-centered
inspiringandfunnyusernamecoolheh
Well anyone working in technical field with some kind of acdc should learn the math.
KatWomanTeaches
I teach a financial literacy class to 8th graders. Its eye opening how much they don't know. And that they will probably never write a check
nuclearpotatoDK
Checkbook?? WHAT YEAR IS THIS?!
ShadowXII
I'm 27, own my home, my wedding is next year, and about to change careers. I have never had or wish I'd had a checkbook.
LordFreezer
check books? do people still use them? haven't seen one since I was a wee lad.
smasher543
I just sit inside with my 3 best friends: penny, chip, and used napkin
TheLegendarySuperStrayan
I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT BALANCING A CHECKBOOK MEANS! As an australian, thanks obama
theseventh
^This. Honestly have no idea what it means. I'm guessing making sure income exceeds outgoings? But how do you need to be 'taught' that?
YamatoIouko
Because that guy is either a troll or an idiot.
YamatoIouko
The guy in the pictures, I mean.
WilhelmvonSchlapphand
Who can't add and subtract numbers? Taxes are just percentages and filling out boxes. If you pay attention it's not that hard either. (
WilhelmvonSchlapphand
I will admit that forms are annoying and tedious though. Especially scary when you involve money.
dpidcoe
That and there are some people (myself) who will always find a way to misinterpret the instructions. Still doesn't stop me from doing taxes.
AncalagontheBlack
If people learn how to do that shit on their own, my job field is going to get a hell of a lot more narrow.
isometimesgetreferences
I thought you said if " people learnt to shit on their own"
LogicalAbsurdities
Don't worry. Just picture someone of avg intelligence and remember that half the planet is dumber than that motherfucker. Your job is safe.
WhyAreThoseCaptchaThingsSoFuckingHardToRead
Median*
MartialSpork
We'll assume median is approximate to the mean because we don't have the data right now.
LordFreezer
what do you do exactly? I've never used a checkbook. .
DenimBeard
Me either. I use mint.com and my bank will mail out all my bills for me. Never had a paper check, have yet to need one.
blahblah1994
Well I don't know about OP but I'm an accountant and I'd love it for people to learn to do it themselves
thuperduperthpeshul
Don't worry, I plan on remaining oblivious.
Lavitzzzzzzzzzz
Amen.
mmgamoio
All that addition and subtraction in checkbooks. Too hard for the guy taking more advanced math.
tooomanysteves
How about listening to your parents for once? They can teach you life skills.
icanmakeagoodusernamelaterright
Plus, research suggests learning general maths is more beneficial for future financial behaviour than specific financial education (1/2)
icanmakeagoodusernamelaterright
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-smart-way-to-teach-children-about-money-1422849602 (2/2)
DoctorWatchamacallit
I just hate this argument against analytic math. Not only do people assume its worthless for no real reason, but they act like 1)
vanyathalias
What if they know what job they want and analytic math IS useless for them?
bingotown
Most of school is about learning how to learn and think and making you a well-rounded person.
MegaZambam
Studying math can still increase critical thinking skills.
skelitor120
All I know is that I have no idea how banks, loans, financing or buying cars/houses work but I've spent 2 years learning geometry.
DoctorWatchamacallit
school isn't supposed to be vocational/life training. anyone who thinks so misses the point. School is about developing critical thinking 1)
DoctorWatchamacallit
3) undergo. You may not necessarily use complex numbers in your line of work, but your increased analytical skills by using them will
DoctorWatchamacallit
2) work ethics, analytical skills, and cultural awareness, that will make you a more productive member of society in whatever you choose to
DoctorWatchamacallit
2) doing math will Never even benefit your critical thinking skills and will never serve anyone, ever.
boobert
Wholeheartedly agree
NimulosMaltibos
And they imply you need to learn basic math again for financial interactions
dxblacker
Hard? Or USELESS? Too much useless math is taught as a generality...as if it happens in everyday life and you need to use it. You dont. Wont
angelicforsworn
I don't understand the concept of it bc it was never introduced to me by anyone. Yet I was honors/AP through high school and now in college
Mozzy4Ever
I've been asked by financial advisers if I've balanced my checkbook and I have no idea how the fuck you do it. I'm good at math, just dunno
triggernometry
Write down how much money you have in your checking account. Then update every time you make a deposit, withdrawal, debit purchase, or check
xxkkpyy
you just subtract your purchases from the original amount in your bank account.
Mozzy4Ever
To those responding - Seems like it's already taken care of by online banking lol
TheCrowFather
Microsoft Money Sunset. It's free. Just record your purchases and reconcile them against your bank statements each month.
CheddarDreams
You make money, you add it to the balance. You spend money, you subtract it from the balance. Nothing to it
angelicforsworn
But no one ever explains this, which is kinda the point.
thisistoomuchwork
I think most people don't even know what balancing a check book requires. I think the fact no one knows speaks for itself.
wylker
Honestly what kid in school today is ever going to write a check?
nomorecah
I wrote checks right after I graduated, but they shouldn't give checkbooks to college kids. Bad decisions were made.
MyCatWatchesMeMasturbate
my town doesn't allow utilities to be paid with debit, I HAVE to write checks. It happens
Imghurrr
My city utilities are automatically paid online.. the future is now.
MyCatWatchesMeMasturbate
we don't even have online billing :/
TheCrowFather
That's not quite what it means. It means more of balancing a log of your finances.
revenfett
Who even writes checks anymore...
TK84
Do you pay rent in cash?
revenfett
automatic bill pay, or I use a debit card
TK84
My landlord is an individual person, not a company, so he doesn't have this option.
mnsu
So transfer money from your bank account to the landlord's account. Should be as easy as writing a check.
EquinoxActual
American, right? I never figured out why US banks can't seem to get their shit together and provide basic transaction options.
revenfett
Automatic bill pay is through my bank
weliveinaspaceshipdear
Seriously, I hate this argument. "Balance a checkbook" is a SPED class for a reason. If you're in Algebra II, figure it the fuck out.
pickleton
Yeah elementary school math gives you enough knowledge to balance a checkbook. If people can't apply it that's on them.
TheCrowFather
It's not even that hard. Microsoft Money Sunset is free and all you do is press a few buttons.
dxblacker
And when your computer doesn't work...
TheCrowFather
Well then you need to keep your receipts. Check the receipts against the bank statement mailed to you.
dxblacker
So you'd rather keep a volatile sheet of thermal paper as a record instead of your checkbook. Right...
Drlakata
THANK YOU. I get so sick of people complaining about stuff like this. If you truly want to learn it, there are resources online for you.
CrookedMan
Resources online are not the same thing as having a teacher.
derpbread
'Resources online are not the same thing as being forced to learn it'
Drlakata
True, but I do think many people choose to complain about what they didn't have rather than use what they do.
Sacurason
There are resources online for learning most levels of math as well.
luckycharms4life
I think the intent is more about learning/understanding/focusing on understanding personal finance, not specifically a checkbook.
ILikeThisPlanetYouGetOff
I learned some pretty useful personal finance stuff in calc. The point is they teach you a skill and you apply it.
AmFireAmDeath
Had the choice, of taking an online personal finance class over the summer vs an economics class... it was pass fail based on whether or 1/2
AmFireAmDeath
Not we got over 80% on the one test that was graded, the questions were taken from 5 practice tests, which I just had open in 2/3
AmFireAmDeath
Other tabs, there was no time limit, I found every answer without having to think, yeah horray for personal finance
weliveinaspaceshipdear
Most high schools require finance/economics classes so, I'm not at all sure what you're talking about.
ILikeThisPlanetYouGetOff
Mine didn't. People just didn't listen in Alg 2 when the teacher taught us compound interest. And then bitched about real world application.
AdmJota
These schools, trying to teach me useless crap like exponents or calculating terms in a series, when all I want to know is how to 1/2
warick
They teach that. Exponential functions.
hoopyhoop
heh
AdmJota
figure out how much money will be in my savings account after a few years. 2/2
eggmuffin
School has already taught you that. It's called basic mathematics.
DoctorWatchamacallit
Why? I really hate this argument. Just because something isn't the minimum required to survive doesn't mean pursuing it won't benefit you
DoctorWatchamacallit
For example, exponents and imaginary numbers become key in mathematics of wave theory, which become critical for analysis of dampening
argentfenix
Is counting to 20 really that hard? :D
DoctorWatchamacallit
a wrong analysis of this math means that the bridge you have might go say... the way of the Tacoma narrows bridge
FlatPlutoSociety
Fucking yes, thank you. "Balance a checkbook" is just a metaphor for learning about finances in general.
FlatPlutoSociety
Or, synecdoche.
Rheios
happens.Take positive difference and put some of it into an IRA. Continue with this procedure until retirement. If you are currently f'd (2)
Corrodias
Well it's a pretty poor metaphor, considering it's second grade material.
eggmuffin
And seeing as school teaches you everything you need to know to figure that out for yourself, it's a terrible argument.
YamatoIouko
That requires thought to get to, though. :P
Rheios
Decrease outcome until less than income, then continue with the nonfucked path. Lesson. Fucking. Done.(3)
Einbrecher
So, addition, subtraction, and exponents (if you want to get fancy and figure out compounding interest). You learn that already.
Rheios
If your outcome is greater than your income, you are fucked.If your income is greater than outcome save the difference for when the first(1)
Xalrus
We had a class that taught stuff like this. Turns out, it was super simple and the class was pretty my a joke.
iDrinkDrano
Just because its simple doesn't mean it's not worthwhile, though.
ps238principal
It'd be more worthwhile to teach how things like high speed trading and other accounting tricks means you're likely screwed for life.
nomorecah
It's just something they should have a short class on; a week or two. Teach (high school) kids taxes, checks, basic life skills.It (1/2
dxblacker
Making sure you don't live in a cardboard box is a joke. Hahahahah it's cold in here...
YouCantKeepJetpackingAwayFromYourProblemsBrian
We had a 4-week course as part of Computers covering finances and using a checkbook. I remember nothing. It was not very helpful.
dxblacker
It will be when you have to manage your finances/budget...something imaginary numbers wont wont be used with.
thesplashingblumpkins
I honestly don't understand what you could mean by balancing a chequebook. Is that like maintaining your own personal ledgers?
ErogenousEnigma
... I don't make enough money for my checkbook to qualify as "ledgers"....
llaziw
That's right. It's simply a matter of keeping track, independently, of your expenses. It's not difficult.
thesplashingblumpkins
oh, thanks. Yeah, just export your bank statements to excel. Simples
cloneboy
There was a time before personal computers and electronic banking were ubiquitous, so people had to keep track of their expenses with paper.
GeorgieLeech
It's still more a question of diligence than math though. If you can add and subtract, you have everything you need.
otebear
Imaginary numbers aren't considered advanced math anymore. It's algebra II.
rickim24
wait is algebra ii not advanced anymore? when I graduated high school, I don't think it was a requirement.
otebear
When was that? At least in NJ, students have to be well versed in geometry and alg II. Most students take calc AB or BC (or multivar, etc.).
mmgamoio
All I said was that imaginary numbers are more advanced than addition and subtraction.
DoctorWatchamacallit
well, the basics are. But complex numbers have applications well into advanced math. Differential equations use them a lot for example
YamatoIouko
They're also important to modeling cyclical motion such as springs, pendulums and AC circuits. Taking Class Mech this semester.
DoctorWatchamacallit
I know. I'm also a physics student.
YamatoIouko
Oh. High five?
daegon789
I learned it in algebra 1a last semester...
YamatoIouko
This means nothing without knowing your age or grade level.
daegon789
Highschool freshman, fifteen years of age.
YamatoIouko
Yeah, that's about when I'd expect, honestly. i isn't even a difficult concept.
weliveinaspaceshipdear
Still more advanced than the ability to add and subtract simple numbers to two decimal places.
a55mu11e7
What we're getting at here is how alot of us learned useless shit in school, like how we know how to write without lifting our pens. 1/2
a55mu11e7
like seriously...who uses cursive? 2/2
YamatoIouko
*raises hand* It's much faster for taking notes than print writing, IMO.
elpadlina
Most of the Europe afaik. At least as long as it's handwritten.
otebear
Anyone who has taken the SAT. Seriously. I'm not entirely sure I understand why it's on there.
Lectricanman
Though I don't personally use it, it is a much faster way to write as you are not stoping at each individual letter.
dickpuns
The fact we don't consider algebra 2 advanced pleases me
YamatoIouko
No kidding. Because it's really not. I really wish the advanced kids would be allowed to get into higher math earlier, too.
otebear
I did alg II and geometry in 7th/8th grade. If the school won't provide, there are always extracurricular classes (G&T, MIT OCW, etc.).
YamatoIouko
Sadly, those weren't commonly available when I was in 7th/8th grade.
dickpuns
I was taking Geom in 8th grade homeschooled. Switched to public school, and they threw me in pre-alg...
dickpuns
I had to take 2 math classes sophomore year just to be able to take AP calc senior year.
YamatoIouko
That's super messed up.