Oct 8, 2021 6:30 AM
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JhericFury
As someone on a shitty wage, let me tell you, the difference between having to pay rent and being somewhere I didn't have to was everything
ProbablyDrunkAgain
What about a $8k doctor bill is typical?
Peachcappuccino
The student loan payments in Australia get taken out of your tax return. Apart from the indexing it's good.
3dartwork
What food besides a salad and where can I buy lunch for $8? Seems everywhere it's pushed the $10
wordheard
Do you eat lunch every day?
Th3Lionheart
Laughs in 1000 dollar student loan payments
RideTheStimutacs
You don't need to post every single thing he tweets, Imgur.
IntentiomalTypo
Sounds like they just need to buy a car and stop wasting all their money on lyfts. /S
TarrkertheNewt
People are paying $2,000 in rent? Yeesh. It's the opposite for more. Got like $400 in rent but thousands each month in loan payments. x_x
WhatBackWaterCountry
In what backwater country are medical bills that high? It sounds like a dystopia.
Commentsaboutyourusername
What back water country, definitely a dystopia
goatbible
TheOtherBoleynGirl
It's obviously the states, where have you been?
Right here! I swear you're just like your sister. You'd lose your head if it wasn't attached!
Evilpercy
You know if they just tied minimum wage to the rate of inflation this would never have happened.
I work in government and get a 3% cost of living raise every year. It's a simple solution.
BlairBarley
You forgot the $12k avocado toast. That's the problem right?
madeejit
You gotta get value out of it. Leave the nutrient rich skin on the toast, and then power through the stone afterwards.
YourMomWasHere
Srs point tho- why the hell do people like Avocado Toast... what the fuck?
Froggie243
Everything bagel seasoning and 12 grain toast. It offsets the other unhealthy stuff I eat and tastes yummy. Good egg substitute in sammies.
mydogisbetterthanyourdog
As a big fan: it’s all in the spices on top. It’s the perfect healthy fat to add onto. I do lemon zest and juice, goat cheese, red pepper,
Turmeric, coriander, salt & pepper, paprika. Soft boiled egg to ooze on top and it’s perfection. I make mine so I can eat 4 slices at a time
wintermute93
In other words, it's hummus on bread but with chickpeas swapped out for avocado.
Soufange
Just avocado and toast sounds like a diet plan I can slowly give up on life with. But on turkey sammies it's good. Hot avocado= butter.
Ah... that might be why I can't subscribe to it T_T I really hate that molten avocado kinda thing, prefer them crisp and cold xD
Faradesti
Yeah, hot avocado has a weird flavor to me also.
Se7enPr1me
Avacado toast is very high in fat and carbs
So the perfect peasant food. CHECKMATE, RICH MEN.
breadedfishstrip
Buy less candles
FattyLumpkin3
No
drbarbour91
Netflix is 17 dollars now. I know this because they took what I had in my account on Tuesday
Betterbecauseofthem
Wait. Millennials can afford to see the doctor?
PwnageHobo
If you live in a civilised country, sure.
TogepiOmelette
I live in Canada, but still paid for my prescriptions (some of it was covered) my IUD, root canal, brand new tooth all our of pocket.
someone's gunna joke that this was all in one day
kd7uns
How much for the root canal in Canada?
out of pocket? up to $1500 depending on your dentist. Just prepare for the worst...
That's only slightly more that what I paid here in the U.S. and I have "good" insurance.
The701
Walk past the building and look in through a window. That's not too expensive, unless you make eye contact with the doctor.
MisspentYouth333
America is a wild place
Truly. It's where I spent my youth, Miss
sheatarco
It sucks here.
I’m sure you had a better childhood than me, unless the TV shows lied to me
GribCake
It’s not as good as it could or should be, but that’s reductive. You’re privileged being in America.
buttcreambandit
Dude I really have noticed that food is expensive as fuck and fast food is very cheap. I’m fairly certain if I ate of dollar menus and
Skipped drinks I could save a fuckload of money compared to what I do now (extremely rarely eating out, buying and cooking my own meals)
IllegalDuckling
That's also an extremely expensive coffee. Or is it soft drinks containing traces of coffee from Sbucks?
ryansmVillain
99cents at Cumberland farms. Any size hot coffee
That sounds more like a normal price
Today was free. Free coffee Fridays in October
CatatonicCowMoo
Most places it costs 4 for even a small coffee. My local coffee place has a small latte for 3 and change. Hell even at McDonalds a large/
Iced caramel macchiato is 3-4 after tax
PerpetuityPhoto
Depends on the coffee. If you just get black caraffe stuff, you can find it cheap AF. But if you love yourself, you tend to pay a bit more.
EXACTLY
Nakiepanda
$4 a coffee is cheap. McCafe coffee here is about $6 for a large. (Australia).
DarkUranium
$6 AUD *is* about $4 USD.
Oh right. Brain fart moment again.
TBF, you'd have to normalize it to local wages. But I've no idea how Australia compares to USA.
Yeah our minimum wage for a casual adult depends on the industry. But it isn't under $17 an hr as far as I am aware.
Elvirana
I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment, but comparing monthly and daily payments is a little difficult.
one coffee less and lunch at home in this scenario would amout to 210€.
CameForNatalieDormer
That's the issue, though. Imagine you save $210(sorry, American)/month by eating lunch and making coffee at home, at the end of the 1/2
Yeah, I know, as I said, I agree with the sentiment. Also when I didn't have any money I didn't go out for lunch in the first place - and
didn't really have a possibility to cut back even further. Also it's often those little things like dining out once in a while that make
everything a little more bearable. To ask (poor) people to cut back on those things is cruel.
Year you have save $2,520, or enough to pay for almost a third of that medical bill or one month's rent. Do it for 10 years for a new car...
The issue isn't that saving the money is hard, it's that the total we make is simply too low. How do you buy a house on 35k/year?
Tarmaccian
Dan Price distorting facts for popularity on social media?! I’m shocked! /s
JustTBH
The longer you look, the worse it gets! 3 coffees, serious visit to to md, two lunches, a brunch and zero groceries.
quzar
I had a roommate who would be habitually broke. We were 3 in a house and her chunk of the rent was 500$. She had no medical costs, no >
> student loans. She was making ~ 85k (more than me). I was the one on the lease, so I asked to help go over her budget. ~500 a week on >
> eating out/coffee (not counting drinking) on top of that groceries that exceeded my own (whole foods vs costco). She could not wrap her >
>mind around how excessive it was and accused me of boomer thinking for suggesting she'd be able to cover rent with less starbucks.
Mandarinduckmama
Groceries are twice as expensive as they were just a few years ago, and no one is talking about it.
Bhargo
I've always cooked for myself and rarely go out to eat, price of groceries has me eating 1-2 times a day at this point
Honestly, no one needs to eat 3 times a day. If I have a big lunch, I rarely get inspired for a good dinner. But, that's besides the point.
Ham has gone from ten/ bucks to nearly 20, now. I'm all for eating less ham, but that's beside the point.
afatrollofmyown
If I meal-planned well, went to winco/costco, Icould squeak by on <$200/month for one. Now I'm spending $350/month and I still go without
I just spent 15 dollars for a bottle of laundry soap!! Face soap is like 7 bucks a bottle. My friend gets $188 food stamps for he and his
Disabled Mom a month. Who are they kidding? Forget fruit. Grapes are 7 to 8 bucks a bunch, now.
TsNightmare
In college I lived off of $20-30 a week for groceries. Now its $70-80. Mostly the same stuff too. Fucking insane.
Thank you!! A $300 shopping trip is now 600 to 700 bucks. I shop for long spans of time because I hate shopping, same stuff, twice da price
I just bought stuff for a lasagna no meat mind you. A 12pk soda, some bananas, broccoli, a pack of cookies, bagels, and deodorant. $73
Haha...i know, right? It's weird how those prices have all sneaked up completely under the radar...yet minimum wage, not so much...
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
I don't check how much money I have in the bank, I realise that's a touch reckless, but I just can't be fucked worrying about money. /2
2/ I live as cheaply as I can, and have done so most of my life - even while flush, and work on the idea that I am doing the best i can. /3
3/ If I run out of money while doing that, then really I was going to run out of money anyway and why spend time worrying about it.
robkyky
I agree with some, but not all. This is relative to where you are in the country. 8k for a medical bill?!
cricketHunter
"Typical" medical bill, too. Such nonsense.
Galfronon
If the "/s" isn't obvious, this is the CEO who raised all of his worker's minimum wages to $70,000
KevlarOctopus
The real problem was that the replies weren't sarcastic, and a lot of them were pretty hateful and completely removed from reality
zfournier16
Possible the only one on earth that treats people like people
leeian44101
Well he did for get the 98$ I spent at the bar before I got that Lyft
wwilddoge
Where does one get an application to the work place of said CEO
SithElephant
Which is great, until you realise that his buisness has zero traditional 'customer service' people that interact directly with people. It's
all automated. This rather takes the shine off, as it's very much easier for this sort of buisness to pay lots.
Cenodoxus
Why would you ever contact his business? If there's a problem you'd contact your bank or credit card provider and they'll handle the rest.
Since it seems they only handle behind the scenes things about money transfers (?)
Pimparoo3
Not every business needs customer facing people like that though.
JStengah
All a massive pr stunt to screw over his brother who sued him for overpaying himself millions of dollars and almost bankrupting the company
wadatahmydamie
Salpinus
I started looking at your sources, and practically all of it is from one guys blog...
Read the about page on that blog. It’s… something else all right. Specifically the part about 2nd amendment rights for school kids.
Textuality
So bloomberg, forbes, esquire, entrepeneur, and others are "some guy's blog?"
4 blog articles. 3 from those you mentioned, one of which doesn't even back this guys claims. Come on...
An investigative journalists blog. Where he posts court documents and police reports and direct quotes from people he's interviewed to back
up what he's reporting.
If you've got your own homepage (not a news agency), have no journalist education, and worked with marketing most of your life - it's a blog
Oh, also: I don't think the guy is a Saint. You don't get to that position by being a nice guy all your life. But, it's a good thing when
CEOs reduce their own pay and increases their workers. It's a step in the right direction. Now, when you show that it's possible then maybe,
just maybe, it will make some other CEOs do something similar.
he mentally abuses and harasses employees, but has a strict nda that won't let them talk to the press about it without opening themselves up
EngorgedPhallus
An nda doesn't prevent someone from reporting illegal shit, or workplace violations.
No, but you have to be able to afford to fight it. Dan's exactly the type to make it a drawn out and expensive legal battle.
to a lawsuit. He also raped a sleeping woman, tortured & abused his ex-wife, likely committed fraud for years, uses his company's funds for
Woah you got a source for this?
End of the chain, imgurs been eating my links lately though so if they're not there Google dan price rape or hundredeightdegrees dot com
I really doubt he does, because this is the shit that gets parroted on all of Price's stuff lately without good evidence.
private expenses, breaks contracts regularly, and habitually lies about his past.
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-gravity-ceo-dan-price/
I'm legit worried that people actually need to see the "/s" nowadays.
Jandegrote
Shit from America is so beyond fucking crazy that you dont always know whats real and whats not my man.
HistoryDogs
Tricky to write something so ridiculous that no real person would hold that opinion. Because there’s a lot of ridiculous people out there.
SlyMrFox
Poe's Law
They always have
Elonth
remember kids. The last time someone didn't throw out the "/s" people stopped getting vaccinated and started drinking bleach.
lljkstonefish
I'm on board with the latter part.
Spanked84
Didn't need it here but after 4 years of waking up to news & thinking 'did the orange monkey really say that?'...it's skewed my perception.
Shaodyn
Poe's Law. Without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to make a parody of extreme views that won't be mistaken for
a genuine expression of the views being parodied.
Tielatto
Nobody needs to see it. People just put it there for no actual reason.
'But it tells when you're sarcastic!' - If they can't rub two brain cells together, use context and shit, fuck 'em, let 'em drink bleach.
Not everyone else is the same as you, has had the same life experiences, and the has same sense of humor... so yeah, "/s" is often needed.
Who said anything about the same humor? I'm talking about the basic ability to use context and general critical thought to deduce sarcasm.
CaptainSomebody
Poe's law. Don't be a pedantic douche.
RexMori
Eh. It's useful for people who have autism. I find it better to be safe than sorry
Have you ever considered that maybe you are the one with autism?
I do have autism.
Well your post came across as a dis on people with autism...
Totallynottheguy
/s?
chetnixandflill
/sex. /s
Cedricle
sarcasm
badatediting
PancakesAreDinner
And, maybe worth adding, lowered his own to 70k as well.
SuperEasyBarelyAnInconvenience
I'm sure he takes home anything over 70k after everyone's got theirs but he's also made sure everyone got theirs so he can have it. 1/2
GrouchyOscar
The one CEO that deserves a raise
jeeps005
how long til shareholders vote him out
TrustmeIamdutch
Hasn't it been like 5 or 6 years already?
That’s what his brother is suing him over, I think
But since he cares about his employees he's probably throwing out bonuses whenever possible.
isaypoopythingabecausemostofyouannoyme
He’s also being sued by his brother.
ZeroLogain
Assuming the brother was a business partner?
Snowdemoman
He's probably got a spreadsheet of "excuses" he can use for when he gives out bonuses. Summer's going to be hot, bonus for ice-cream.
Lucallia
"it was a little chilly yesterday, go get some jackets"
AntRam95
And he gets monthly bonuses of only a couple dozen million
GriffithCantelope
Can't we praise a human for being a leader in doing the right thing then being a narcissist about it?
goodisunpopular
Reminds me of the McDonald's budget plan
MechKelly
600 rent, 20 insurance, 150 car payment. When was this made? 40 years ago?
JustEatingBagelBites
$20 insurance? Try $1200/month for a family plan.
doombabies
I just did some quick math, if it's 2060 net, it'd be about $2500 gross or so. At $8.25 that's working 78 hrs a week between 2 jobs.
amandapandacomics
Spending money… you mean FOOD?
Just get a second job, poors. Make more money and then you can survive! /s
venster
They didn't include food....
CapFwiffo
If the 2nd job pays $8.25, too, that's 22 days of 11 hours and 21 minutes of work every month...
tacodinosaurbrunch0
My god. Between McDonald’s and Visa This is the pinnacle of the dystopia they are creating for us
I think they only added "second job" because they realised they couldn't do it on ONE JOB & that'd throw the whole propaganda out.
bacontender
LOL They actually think health insurance costs $20/mo??
DangerTrain
All you need to do is pay only 20 dollars a month for health insurance, because lol.
elusivebadger53
This is from about 8 years ago and even then was considered insane. Look for the Forbes article about it on Google.
Cruxia13
$600 rent, $20 health insurance, no heat, two jobs. No mention of groceries, either. Just freeze and starve and you'll be fine!
Healthcarecrisis
Health insurance for $20?????
thanksfoenothing
Two jobs and no heat.
Zakierra
Hah. Right. 80 work hours weekly. What a load of shit.
DrunkDru
Sure… if you call that living…
BenBateman
lol $600 rent and $250 for car/insurance payments
cheddarhat
Did it in 2014. $550/mo rent, $90/mo car payment. $100/mo insurance.
IwishIcouldblowmynose
$20 for healthcare!? Sign me tf up.
HootSloot
I like their income assumes between two jobs you have $2k take home a month at $8.25 an hour.
That's 250hrs a month if absolutely nothing is being pulled from your paycheck.
Superchief86
Well you're always going to be at work anyway. What the fuck do you need heat for, fancy pants?
Where's the /s!?
Not in America.
Zalophus
The takeaway is min wage actually needs to be OVER 15 dollars an hour to just live modestly.
Depends on where you live, really. Up where I live $15/hr is enough to live fairly well on. I was making that much and renting a 3br house.
If it's in any of the "big cities" (SF, LA, NY, Seattle, etc), then yeah the prices there are insane.
Unfortunately I live in CA. Not even in a big city, but costs are very high here. I should really move somewhere cheaper, but easier said.
I live in CA too. When I first moved up here, I was renting a 3br house for $900/mo. Prices have gone up a bit, but still not bad at all.
Where I am average is over 2k for an apartment.
MaximusUltima
If minimum wage had kept up with the CPI since 1969, when it had the most buying-power, it would be ~$23 an hour right now.
ThisIsWhyIDontTrustPeople
$600 for rent? What is this 1975?
Dear god. I would never work a job that was only worth $1,000 a month. That's "I still live at home with mom & dad" pay. -_-
cjorl
Sweet privilege you've got there
LoL right? Says the guy who was unemployed for seven years that one time. x_x
angrytaco
You're a fucking spoiled bitch
Not to worry. I have suffered greatly in many, other ways.
NotWelcomehere
So you had the privilege of being able to stay safe and fed while you didn't have a job? That's privilege in spades bud.
I was agreeing. Sorry I didn't almost die?
sarkonas
This is obviously monstrous, but I'm curious- since 2nd jobs are commonly talked about in U.S., how many hours weekly are we talking total?
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Been working 2 jobs 55-60 hours a week for two and a half years. Only make about $2000 a month. And they both pay slightly more than minimum
ThePickliestRick
I live in Canada, but for me when I worked 2 jobs it varied between 55-70 hours depending on scheduling, no weekends off.
Also, here a business wouldn't schedule you for more than 36 part time hours so they wouldn't have to treat you like a full time employee
So it wasn't uncommon for some to work 3 jobs to hit those 60 hours. And coordinating scheduling was a nightmare.
MrSisterFister
Well in this scenario since no one making minimum wage really pays taxes it comes out to about 62 hours per week which is a lot.
FoxyLoxyMoxy
I feel sorry for those that need 2 jobs to survive. It's more than half your waking life working for some cunt who doesn't give a shit..
Back when I had two jobs, it was about 65hrs/week. It sucked, had to quit the 2nd job after about two months because I felt like death.
seentoomuchdeath
clerk, then intern, for 2 years, rarely a day off, at 60-120hrs/wk for $3G then $23G a yr, a nightmare, unnecessary, dangerous. One suicide
It varies wildly. For me, I worked 2 jobs and logged between 55 and 60 hours weekly, always had Sunday off, and made 50k/year. A further 1/2
Issue is that our politicians still use jobs as a success metric, so having 1 person take 2 isn't ideal for our society. But here we are...
BiggestofBears
$50k a year and you worked 20 hours of overtime...but didn't get paid in overtime wages. That's shitty as fuck.
Yes and no. I was pretty lucky in that my second job, bartending, paid $25/hour on average. But working 2 jobs is awful and unsustainable.
tehdrmonkey
Is everyone missing the fact of…WHERE THE FUCK CAN YOU GET A PLACE TO RENT FOR $600 a month?
In that sheet I believe it came out that it was modelled after someone who lived with 3 roommates who split rent.
Also no food listed
lookbehindyouathreeheadedmonkey
They are working at McDonalds, there must be some leftovers.
forsale90
What kind of health insurance costs 20$/mo?
BlowjackHorsejob
I was gonna fucking say. I get health insurance through my job and it's still 40 a week and I'm young and healthy.
bandito1578
SAME. Our health insurance is about $250/mo and the shitty thing is we still have like a $3k deductible and a $700 ER visit copay. YAY!
'MURICA
T0nak
Fuck I'd take that over what I have. Mine is $650/mo and $2500 deductible with a $500 er copay. Not much better but not worth the cost.
Damn, my deductible is 6k, which I'm about to max with one surgery in about a week. This goddamn country I swear.
There's lots of inaccuracies. The "young college kids" they say is the average McDonalds worker would be paying about $300/mo car insurance.
regestereddomainname
where is the food part is that supposed to be the other for 100?
StSycho
wtf are these car insurance prices? Most expensive I had when I took one for my first car and it was about 1K€/year.
Nowadays I have car and two bikes and with combined insurance cost of 750€/year. Need to compete insurance companies again next year
Here in the US, insurance rates vary by age, car leased/financed status, and the accident statistics of the city you live in. For a 20yr old
aetherfox
If you're paying 3.6k / year on car insurance, you're getting robbed
Elhifel
What state are you from?
New Hampshire
ihaveblunderedyetagain
I had full coverage for like $70/mo in my early 20s and it wasn't a shit car either. Though, $600 gets you half a 1 bed apt so that's BS
IrateMeatAndMeatAccessories
The ironic part is that my apartment is 1100/mo... nearly double... excluding utilities.
That's what I meant. For $600 you'd have to share a 1 bed apt with a second person.
St. Louis. Baltimore. Parts of Chicago. Oklahoma. Try those real estate apps.
Metalbawkses
.....I rent out my old place for $650
Well if you share an apartment with 4 or 5 other people that you kinda like but wish that you could hate...
Natdictit
That’s how much I pay for a place that was 400 5 years ago, in a small town in the middle of no where
Yeah that was the first thing I noticed, was this made in the 90s?
ProxyPlayerHD
it hurts to read american comments like these were 600 bucks for rent is considered unrealistically low. i wish you guys luck for the future
jobokai
I paid 550 for about 7 years. Place was crap but at that price I wasn’t moving until I had my house
And luckily for me landlords never raised my rent in that time.
thegreatninjaman
are we ignoring the fact that this assumes a second job?
BobHubert
Small towns or splitting rent between people. I split a 2 Ned house with a guy, total was 750 which isn’t terrible for a whole house. Paying
2k a month like the original post suggests seems a bit ludicrous to me
shimmerkitten
750 a month for a 2 bedder is amazing! For a room in a share house that usually has min. 6 rooms, prices start at $150 a week here.
And that has dropped due to covid. Used to be $195
Where do you live geez?
If you're willing to live with roommates and split your room, you could probably get down to like $550 a month easily!
Vaelborn
Depends heavily on location. It would be... challenging in southern California. Still way cheaper than any alternative though.
I dunno, a 2 bedroom split across 6 people, shouldn't be impossible. Just grab those bootstraps!
Ohh, sure. I didn't consider cramming 3 people to a single room barracks style. Rent can get very low if you do that haha. I'm good though.
alluro2
Living the dream! Just work 2 jobs and you'll be able to live in a shitty place, eat, and maybe not freeze.
8gigsofshark
Nah, no eating, there's no grocery line item in that budget. No food for you!
flexistraw
And $0 for heating
MajorSession
So, just work two jobs for a total of ~60hours a week?
GottaGetThoseSeedsMorty
It’s closer to 70; they’re assuming net pay, so you need to account for the hours worked to cover taxes
The fact that I can work, live in poverty, and still get 22% of my income slashed off the top for taxes that don't give me healthcare... ugh
Also, who the fuck only spends $600 a month on rent/mortgage!? It's $600 a week.
pancakeEwokEscapade
At 23 I got a union job, with my parents for 18 months and saved 20% for a $165k house (2004). My rent in Missouri is around $800 / mo ->
Without the connections to get a job with UAW, I don't know where I'd be.
Well this budget came out back in 2013 when $600 rents were slightly easier to find in some places. Only slightly.
westellar
All of the expenses are conservative. $90 on power? Try $300.
Where are you averaging $300/mo on power? AZ? Even cooling a large house through summer I never broke $300
... I was actually being conservative. Mine currently averages closer to $500. I guess the rates here are just higher than wherever you are.
Could be the rates where they are. Arizona charges fairly cheap rates compared to Hawaii where they average 32¢ per KWh
JhericFury
As someone on a shitty wage, let me tell you, the difference between having to pay rent and being somewhere I didn't have to was everything
ProbablyDrunkAgain
What about a $8k doctor bill is typical?
Peachcappuccino
The student loan payments in Australia get taken out of your tax return. Apart from the indexing it's good.
3dartwork
What food besides a salad and where can I buy lunch for $8? Seems everywhere it's pushed the $10
wordheard
Do you eat lunch every day?
Th3Lionheart
Laughs in 1000 dollar student loan payments
RideTheStimutacs
You don't need to post every single thing he tweets, Imgur.
IntentiomalTypo
Sounds like they just need to buy a car and stop wasting all their money on lyfts. /S
TarrkertheNewt
People are paying $2,000 in rent? Yeesh. It's the opposite for more. Got like $400 in rent but thousands each month in loan payments. x_x
WhatBackWaterCountry
In what backwater country are medical bills that high? It sounds like a dystopia.
Commentsaboutyourusername
What back water country, definitely a dystopia
goatbible
TheOtherBoleynGirl
It's obviously the states, where have you been?
Commentsaboutyourusername
Right here! I swear you're just like your sister. You'd lose your head if it wasn't attached!
Evilpercy
You know if they just tied minimum wage to the rate of inflation this would never have happened.
ButIBuildAThousandBridges
I work in government and get a 3% cost of living raise every year. It's a simple solution.
BlairBarley
You forgot the $12k avocado toast. That's the problem right?
madeejit
You gotta get value out of it. Leave the nutrient rich skin on the toast, and then power through the stone afterwards.
YourMomWasHere
Srs point tho- why the hell do people like Avocado Toast... what the fuck?
Froggie243
Everything bagel seasoning and 12 grain toast. It offsets the other unhealthy stuff I eat and tastes yummy. Good egg substitute in sammies.
mydogisbetterthanyourdog
As a big fan: it’s all in the spices on top. It’s the perfect healthy fat to add onto. I do lemon zest and juice, goat cheese, red pepper,
mydogisbetterthanyourdog
Turmeric, coriander, salt & pepper, paprika. Soft boiled egg to ooze on top and it’s perfection. I make mine so I can eat 4 slices at a time
wintermute93
In other words, it's hummus on bread but with chickpeas swapped out for avocado.
Soufange
Just avocado and toast sounds like a diet plan I can slowly give up on life with. But on turkey sammies it's good. Hot avocado= butter.
YourMomWasHere
Ah... that might be why I can't subscribe to it T_T I really hate that molten avocado kinda thing, prefer them crisp and cold xD
Faradesti
Yeah, hot avocado has a weird flavor to me also.
Se7enPr1me
Avacado toast is very high in fat and carbs
Soufange
So the perfect peasant food. CHECKMATE, RICH MEN.
breadedfishstrip
Buy less candles
FattyLumpkin3
No
drbarbour91
Netflix is 17 dollars now. I know this because they took what I had in my account on Tuesday
Betterbecauseofthem
Wait. Millennials can afford to see the doctor?
PwnageHobo
If you live in a civilised country, sure.
TogepiOmelette
I live in Canada, but still paid for my prescriptions (some of it was covered) my IUD, root canal, brand new tooth all our of pocket.
TogepiOmelette
someone's gunna joke that this was all in one day
kd7uns
How much for the root canal in Canada?
TogepiOmelette
out of pocket? up to $1500 depending on your dentist. Just prepare for the worst...
kd7uns
That's only slightly more that what I paid here in the U.S. and I have "good" insurance.
The701
Walk past the building and look in through a window. That's not too expensive, unless you make eye contact with the doctor.
MisspentYouth333
America is a wild place
Commentsaboutyourusername
Truly. It's where I spent my youth, Miss
sheatarco
It sucks here.
MisspentYouth333
I’m sure you had a better childhood than me, unless the TV shows lied to me
GribCake
It’s not as good as it could or should be, but that’s reductive. You’re privileged being in America.
buttcreambandit
Dude I really have noticed that food is expensive as fuck and fast food is very cheap. I’m fairly certain if I ate of dollar menus and
buttcreambandit
Skipped drinks I could save a fuckload of money compared to what I do now (extremely rarely eating out, buying and cooking my own meals)
IllegalDuckling
That's also an extremely expensive coffee. Or is it soft drinks containing traces of coffee from Sbucks?
ryansmVillain
99cents at Cumberland farms. Any size hot coffee
IllegalDuckling
That sounds more like a normal price
ryansmVillain
Today was free. Free coffee Fridays in October
CatatonicCowMoo
Most places it costs 4 for even a small coffee. My local coffee place has a small latte for 3 and change. Hell even at McDonalds a large/
CatatonicCowMoo
Iced caramel macchiato is 3-4 after tax
PerpetuityPhoto
Depends on the coffee. If you just get black caraffe stuff, you can find it cheap AF. But if you love yourself, you tend to pay a bit more.
CatatonicCowMoo
EXACTLY
Nakiepanda
$4 a coffee is cheap. McCafe coffee here is about $6 for a large. (Australia).
DarkUranium
$6 AUD *is* about $4 USD.
Nakiepanda
Oh right. Brain fart moment again.
DarkUranium
TBF, you'd have to normalize it to local wages. But I've no idea how Australia compares to USA.
Nakiepanda
Yeah our minimum wage for a casual adult depends on the industry. But it isn't under $17 an hr as far as I am aware.
Elvirana
I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment, but comparing monthly and daily payments is a little difficult.
Elvirana
one coffee less and lunch at home in this scenario would amout to 210€.
CameForNatalieDormer
That's the issue, though. Imagine you save $210(sorry, American)/month by eating lunch and making coffee at home, at the end of the 1/2
Elvirana
Yeah, I know, as I said, I agree with the sentiment. Also when I didn't have any money I didn't go out for lunch in the first place - and
Elvirana
didn't really have a possibility to cut back even further. Also it's often those little things like dining out once in a while that make
Elvirana
everything a little more bearable. To ask (poor) people to cut back on those things is cruel.
CameForNatalieDormer
Year you have save $2,520, or enough to pay for almost a third of that medical bill or one month's rent. Do it for 10 years for a new car...
CameForNatalieDormer
The issue isn't that saving the money is hard, it's that the total we make is simply too low. How do you buy a house on 35k/year?
Tarmaccian
Dan Price distorting facts for popularity on social media?! I’m shocked! /s
JustTBH
The longer you look, the worse it gets! 3 coffees, serious visit to to md, two lunches, a brunch and zero groceries.
quzar
I had a roommate who would be habitually broke. We were 3 in a house and her chunk of the rent was 500$. She had no medical costs, no >
quzar
> student loans. She was making ~ 85k (more than me). I was the one on the lease, so I asked to help go over her budget. ~500 a week on >
quzar
> eating out/coffee (not counting drinking) on top of that groceries that exceeded my own (whole foods vs costco). She could not wrap her >
quzar
>mind around how excessive it was and accused me of boomer thinking for suggesting she'd be able to cover rent with less starbucks.
Mandarinduckmama
Groceries are twice as expensive as they were just a few years ago, and no one is talking about it.
Bhargo
I've always cooked for myself and rarely go out to eat, price of groceries has me eating 1-2 times a day at this point
Mandarinduckmama
Honestly, no one needs to eat 3 times a day. If I have a big lunch, I rarely get inspired for a good dinner. But, that's besides the point.
Mandarinduckmama
Ham has gone from ten/ bucks to nearly 20, now. I'm all for eating less ham, but that's beside the point.
afatrollofmyown
If I meal-planned well, went to winco/costco, Icould squeak by on <$200/month for one. Now I'm spending $350/month and I still go without
Mandarinduckmama
I just spent 15 dollars for a bottle of laundry soap!! Face soap is like 7 bucks a bottle. My friend gets $188 food stamps for he and his
Mandarinduckmama
Disabled Mom a month. Who are they kidding? Forget fruit. Grapes are 7 to 8 bucks a bunch, now.
TsNightmare
In college I lived off of $20-30 a week for groceries. Now its $70-80. Mostly the same stuff too. Fucking insane.
Mandarinduckmama
Thank you!! A $300 shopping trip is now 600 to 700 bucks. I shop for long spans of time because I hate shopping, same stuff, twice da price
TsNightmare
I just bought stuff for a lasagna no meat mind you. A 12pk soda, some bananas, broccoli, a pack of cookies, bagels, and deodorant. $73
Mandarinduckmama
Haha...i know, right? It's weird how those prices have all sneaked up completely under the radar...yet minimum wage, not so much...
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
I don't check how much money I have in the bank, I realise that's a touch reckless, but I just can't be fucked worrying about money. /2
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
2/ I live as cheaply as I can, and have done so most of my life - even while flush, and work on the idea that I am doing the best i can. /3
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
3/ If I run out of money while doing that, then really I was going to run out of money anyway and why spend time worrying about it.
robkyky
I agree with some, but not all. This is relative to where you are in the country. 8k for a medical bill?!
cricketHunter
"Typical" medical bill, too. Such nonsense.
Galfronon
If the "/s" isn't obvious, this is the CEO who raised all of his worker's minimum wages to $70,000
KevlarOctopus
The real problem was that the replies weren't sarcastic, and a lot of them were pretty hateful and completely removed from reality
zfournier16
Possible the only one on earth that treats people like people
leeian44101
Well he did for get the 98$ I spent at the bar before I got that Lyft
wwilddoge
Where does one get an application to the work place of said CEO
SithElephant
Which is great, until you realise that his buisness has zero traditional 'customer service' people that interact directly with people. It's
SithElephant
all automated. This rather takes the shine off, as it's very much easier for this sort of buisness to pay lots.
Cenodoxus
Why would you ever contact his business? If there's a problem you'd contact your bank or credit card provider and they'll handle the rest.
Cenodoxus
Since it seems they only handle behind the scenes things about money transfers (?)
Pimparoo3
Not every business needs customer facing people like that though.
JStengah
All a massive pr stunt to screw over his brother who sued him for overpaying himself millions of dollars and almost bankrupting the company
wadatahmydamie
Salpinus
I started looking at your sources, and practically all of it is from one guys blog...
wadatahmydamie
Read the about page on that blog. It’s… something else all right. Specifically the part about 2nd amendment rights for school kids.
Textuality
So bloomberg, forbes, esquire, entrepeneur, and others are "some guy's blog?"
Salpinus
4 blog articles. 3 from those you mentioned, one of which doesn't even back this guys claims. Come on...
JStengah
An investigative journalists blog. Where he posts court documents and police reports and direct quotes from people he's interviewed to back
JStengah
up what he's reporting.
Salpinus
If you've got your own homepage (not a news agency), have no journalist education, and worked with marketing most of your life - it's a blog
Salpinus
Oh, also: I don't think the guy is a Saint. You don't get to that position by being a nice guy all your life. But, it's a good thing when
Salpinus
CEOs reduce their own pay and increases their workers. It's a step in the right direction. Now, when you show that it's possible then maybe,
Salpinus
just maybe, it will make some other CEOs do something similar.
JStengah
he mentally abuses and harasses employees, but has a strict nda that won't let them talk to the press about it without opening themselves up
EngorgedPhallus
An nda doesn't prevent someone from reporting illegal shit, or workplace violations.
JStengah
No, but you have to be able to afford to fight it. Dan's exactly the type to make it a drawn out and expensive legal battle.
JStengah
to a lawsuit. He also raped a sleeping woman, tortured & abused his ex-wife, likely committed fraud for years, uses his company's funds for
FattyLumpkin3
Woah you got a source for this?
JStengah
End of the chain, imgurs been eating my links lately though so if they're not there Google dan price rape or hundredeightdegrees dot com
CameForNatalieDormer
I really doubt he does, because this is the shit that gets parroted on all of Price's stuff lately without good evidence.
JStengah
private expenses, breaks contracts regularly, and habitually lies about his past.
JStengah
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-gravity-ceo-dan-price/
ButIBuildAThousandBridges
I'm legit worried that people actually need to see the "/s" nowadays.
Jandegrote
Shit from America is so beyond fucking crazy that you dont always know whats real and whats not my man.
HistoryDogs
Tricky to write something so ridiculous that no real person would hold that opinion. Because there’s a lot of ridiculous people out there.
SlyMrFox
Poe's Law
IllegalDuckling
They always have
Elonth
remember kids. The last time someone didn't throw out the "/s" people stopped getting vaccinated and started drinking bleach.
lljkstonefish
I'm on board with the latter part.
Spanked84
Didn't need it here but after 4 years of waking up to news & thinking 'did the orange monkey really say that?'...it's skewed my perception.
Shaodyn
Poe's Law. Without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to make a parody of extreme views that won't be mistaken for
Shaodyn
a genuine expression of the views being parodied.
Tielatto
Nobody needs to see it. People just put it there for no actual reason.
Tielatto
'But it tells when you're sarcastic!' - If they can't rub two brain cells together, use context and shit, fuck 'em, let 'em drink bleach.
kd7uns
Not everyone else is the same as you, has had the same life experiences, and the has same sense of humor... so yeah, "/s" is often needed.
Tielatto
Who said anything about the same humor? I'm talking about the basic ability to use context and general critical thought to deduce sarcasm.
CaptainSomebody
Poe's law. Don't be a pedantic douche.
RexMori
Eh. It's useful for people who have autism. I find it better to be safe than sorry
kd7uns
Have you ever considered that maybe you are the one with autism?
RexMori
I do have autism.
kd7uns
Well your post came across as a dis on people with autism...
Totallynottheguy
/s?
chetnixandflill
/sex. /s
Cedricle
sarcasm
badatediting
PancakesAreDinner
And, maybe worth adding, lowered his own to 70k as well.
SuperEasyBarelyAnInconvenience
I'm sure he takes home anything over 70k after everyone's got theirs but he's also made sure everyone got theirs so he can have it. 1/2
GrouchyOscar
The one CEO that deserves a raise
jeeps005
how long til shareholders vote him out
TrustmeIamdutch
Hasn't it been like 5 or 6 years already?
GrouchyOscar
That’s what his brother is suing him over, I think
SuperEasyBarelyAnInconvenience
But since he cares about his employees he's probably throwing out bonuses whenever possible.
isaypoopythingabecausemostofyouannoyme
He’s also being sued by his brother.
ZeroLogain
Assuming the brother was a business partner?
Snowdemoman
He's probably got a spreadsheet of "excuses" he can use for when he gives out bonuses. Summer's going to be hot, bonus for ice-cream.
Lucallia
"it was a little chilly yesterday, go get some jackets"
AntRam95
And he gets monthly bonuses of only a couple dozen million
GriffithCantelope
Can't we praise a human for being a leader in doing the right thing then being a narcissist about it?
goodisunpopular
Reminds me of the McDonald's budget plan
MechKelly
600 rent, 20 insurance, 150 car payment. When was this made? 40 years ago?
JustEatingBagelBites
$20 insurance? Try $1200/month for a family plan.
doombabies
I just did some quick math, if it's 2060 net, it'd be about $2500 gross or so. At $8.25 that's working 78 hrs a week between 2 jobs.
amandapandacomics
Spending money… you mean FOOD?
RexMori
Just get a second job, poors. Make more money and then you can survive! /s
venster
They didn't include food....
CapFwiffo
If the 2nd job pays $8.25, too, that's 22 days of 11 hours and 21 minutes of work every month...
tacodinosaurbrunch0
My god. Between McDonald’s and Visa This is the pinnacle of the dystopia they are creating for us
afatrollofmyown
I think they only added "second job" because they realised they couldn't do it on ONE JOB & that'd throw the whole propaganda out.
bacontender
LOL They actually think health insurance costs $20/mo??
DangerTrain
All you need to do is pay only 20 dollars a month for health insurance, because lol.
elusivebadger53
This is from about 8 years ago and even then was considered insane. Look for the Forbes article about it on Google.
Cruxia13
$600 rent, $20 health insurance, no heat, two jobs. No mention of groceries, either. Just freeze and starve and you'll be fine!
Healthcarecrisis
Health insurance for $20?????
thanksfoenothing
Two jobs and no heat.
Zakierra
Hah. Right. 80 work hours weekly. What a load of shit.
DrunkDru
Sure… if you call that living…
BenBateman
lol $600 rent and $250 for car/insurance payments
cheddarhat
Did it in 2014. $550/mo rent, $90/mo car payment. $100/mo insurance.
IwishIcouldblowmynose
$20 for healthcare!? Sign me tf up.
HootSloot
I like their income assumes between two jobs you have $2k take home a month at $8.25 an hour.
HootSloot
That's 250hrs a month if absolutely nothing is being pulled from your paycheck.
Superchief86
Well you're always going to be at work anyway. What the fuck do you need heat for, fancy pants?
afatrollofmyown
Where's the /s!?
Superchief86
Not in America.
Zalophus
The takeaway is min wage actually needs to be OVER 15 dollars an hour to just live modestly.
Textuality
Depends on where you live, really. Up where I live $15/hr is enough to live fairly well on. I was making that much and renting a 3br house.
Textuality
If it's in any of the "big cities" (SF, LA, NY, Seattle, etc), then yeah the prices there are insane.
Zalophus
Unfortunately I live in CA. Not even in a big city, but costs are very high here. I should really move somewhere cheaper, but easier said.
Textuality
I live in CA too. When I first moved up here, I was renting a 3br house for $900/mo. Prices have gone up a bit, but still not bad at all.
Zalophus
Where I am average is over 2k for an apartment.
MaximusUltima
If minimum wage had kept up with the CPI since 1969, when it had the most buying-power, it would be ~$23 an hour right now.
ThisIsWhyIDontTrustPeople
$600 for rent? What is this 1975?
TarrkertheNewt
Dear god. I would never work a job that was only worth $1,000 a month. That's "I still live at home with mom & dad" pay. -_-
cjorl
Sweet privilege you've got there
TarrkertheNewt
LoL right? Says the guy who was unemployed for seven years that one time. x_x
angrytaco
You're a fucking spoiled bitch
TarrkertheNewt
Not to worry. I have suffered greatly in many, other ways.
NotWelcomehere
So you had the privilege of being able to stay safe and fed while you didn't have a job? That's privilege in spades bud.
TarrkertheNewt
I was agreeing. Sorry I didn't almost die?
sarkonas
This is obviously monstrous, but I'm curious- since 2nd jobs are commonly talked about in U.S., how many hours weekly are we talking total?
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Been working 2 jobs 55-60 hours a week for two and a half years. Only make about $2000 a month. And they both pay slightly more than minimum
ThePickliestRick
I live in Canada, but for me when I worked 2 jobs it varied between 55-70 hours depending on scheduling, no weekends off.
ThePickliestRick
Also, here a business wouldn't schedule you for more than 36 part time hours so they wouldn't have to treat you like a full time employee
ThePickliestRick
So it wasn't uncommon for some to work 3 jobs to hit those 60 hours. And coordinating scheduling was a nightmare.
MrSisterFister
Well in this scenario since no one making minimum wage really pays taxes it comes out to about 62 hours per week which is a lot.
FoxyLoxyMoxy
I feel sorry for those that need 2 jobs to survive. It's more than half your waking life working for some cunt who doesn't give a shit..
goodisunpopular
Back when I had two jobs, it was about 65hrs/week. It sucked, had to quit the 2nd job after about two months because I felt like death.
seentoomuchdeath
clerk, then intern, for 2 years, rarely a day off, at 60-120hrs/wk for $3G then $23G a yr, a nightmare, unnecessary, dangerous. One suicide
CameForNatalieDormer
It varies wildly. For me, I worked 2 jobs and logged between 55 and 60 hours weekly, always had Sunday off, and made 50k/year. A further 1/2
CameForNatalieDormer
Issue is that our politicians still use jobs as a success metric, so having 1 person take 2 isn't ideal for our society. But here we are...
BiggestofBears
$50k a year and you worked 20 hours of overtime...but didn't get paid in overtime wages. That's shitty as fuck.
CameForNatalieDormer
Yes and no. I was pretty lucky in that my second job, bartending, paid $25/hour on average. But working 2 jobs is awful and unsustainable.
tehdrmonkey
Is everyone missing the fact of…WHERE THE FUCK CAN YOU GET A PLACE TO RENT FOR $600 a month?
BiggestofBears
In that sheet I believe it came out that it was modelled after someone who lived with 3 roommates who split rent.
Pimparoo3
Also no food listed
lookbehindyouathreeheadedmonkey
They are working at McDonalds, there must be some leftovers.
forsale90
What kind of health insurance costs 20$/mo?
BlowjackHorsejob
I was gonna fucking say. I get health insurance through my job and it's still 40 a week and I'm young and healthy.
bandito1578
SAME. Our health insurance is about $250/mo and the shitty thing is we still have like a $3k deductible and a $700 ER visit copay. YAY!
bandito1578
'MURICA
T0nak
Fuck I'd take that over what I have. Mine is $650/mo and $2500 deductible with a $500 er copay. Not much better but not worth the cost.
BlowjackHorsejob
Damn, my deductible is 6k, which I'm about to max with one surgery in about a week. This goddamn country I swear.
goodisunpopular
There's lots of inaccuracies. The "young college kids" they say is the average McDonalds worker would be paying about $300/mo car insurance.
regestereddomainname
where is the food part is that supposed to be the other for 100?
StSycho
wtf are these car insurance prices? Most expensive I had when I took one for my first car and it was about 1K€/year.
StSycho
Nowadays I have car and two bikes and with combined insurance cost of 750€/year. Need to compete insurance companies again next year
goodisunpopular
Here in the US, insurance rates vary by age, car leased/financed status, and the accident statistics of the city you live in. For a 20yr old
aetherfox
If you're paying 3.6k / year on car insurance, you're getting robbed
Elhifel
What state are you from?
aetherfox
New Hampshire
ihaveblunderedyetagain
I had full coverage for like $70/mo in my early 20s and it wasn't a shit car either. Though, $600 gets you half a 1 bed apt so that's BS
IrateMeatAndMeatAccessories
The ironic part is that my apartment is 1100/mo... nearly double... excluding utilities.
ihaveblunderedyetagain
That's what I meant. For $600 you'd have to share a 1 bed apt with a second person.
cheddarhat
St. Louis. Baltimore. Parts of Chicago. Oklahoma. Try those real estate apps.
Metalbawkses
.....I rent out my old place for $650
cjorl
Well if you share an apartment with 4 or 5 other people that you kinda like but wish that you could hate...
Natdictit
That’s how much I pay for a place that was 400 5 years ago, in a small town in the middle of no where
Bhargo
Yeah that was the first thing I noticed, was this made in the 90s?
ProxyPlayerHD
it hurts to read american comments like these were 600 bucks for rent is considered unrealistically low. i wish you guys luck for the future
jobokai
I paid 550 for about 7 years. Place was crap but at that price I wasn’t moving until I had my house
jobokai
And luckily for me landlords never raised my rent in that time.
thegreatninjaman
are we ignoring the fact that this assumes a second job?
BobHubert
Small towns or splitting rent between people. I split a 2 Ned house with a guy, total was 750 which isn’t terrible for a whole house. Paying
BobHubert
2k a month like the original post suggests seems a bit ludicrous to me
shimmerkitten
750 a month for a 2 bedder is amazing! For a room in a share house that usually has min. 6 rooms, prices start at $150 a week here.
shimmerkitten
And that has dropped due to covid. Used to be $195
BobHubert
Where do you live geez?
ThePickliestRick
If you're willing to live with roommates and split your room, you could probably get down to like $550 a month easily!
Vaelborn
Depends heavily on location. It would be... challenging in southern California. Still way cheaper than any alternative though.
ThePickliestRick
I dunno, a 2 bedroom split across 6 people, shouldn't be impossible. Just grab those bootstraps!
Vaelborn
Ohh, sure. I didn't consider cramming 3 people to a single room barracks style. Rent can get very low if you do that haha. I'm good though.
alluro2
Living the dream! Just work 2 jobs and you'll be able to live in a shitty place, eat, and maybe not freeze.
8gigsofshark
Nah, no eating, there's no grocery line item in that budget. No food for you!
flexistraw
And $0 for heating
MajorSession
So, just work two jobs for a total of ~60hours a week?
GottaGetThoseSeedsMorty
It’s closer to 70; they’re assuming net pay, so you need to account for the hours worked to cover taxes
afatrollofmyown
The fact that I can work, live in poverty, and still get 22% of my income slashed off the top for taxes that don't give me healthcare... ugh
MajorSession
Also, who the fuck only spends $600 a month on rent/mortgage!? It's $600 a week.
pancakeEwokEscapade
At 23 I got a union job, with my parents for 18 months and saved 20% for a $165k house (2004). My rent in Missouri is around $800 / mo ->
pancakeEwokEscapade
Without the connections to get a job with UAW, I don't know where I'd be.
goodisunpopular
Well this budget came out back in 2013 when $600 rents were slightly easier to find in some places. Only slightly.
westellar
All of the expenses are conservative. $90 on power? Try $300.
HootSloot
Where are you averaging $300/mo on power? AZ? Even cooling a large house through summer I never broke $300
westellar
... I was actually being conservative. Mine currently averages closer to $500. I guess the rates here are just higher than wherever you are.
goodisunpopular
Could be the rates where they are. Arizona charges fairly cheap rates compared to Hawaii where they average 32¢ per KWh