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azazyel
Tell Alan Turing that.
nevernotbelievin
definition of slippery ethical slope right here
elgalileo
Yeah! Let's be inhuman with Bad people! This way we will be all very Good !
TurtleTwoTimes
And that's supposed to stop molestation too?
solispegasus
Last I checked, you don't need balls to rape. Just sayin'. . . .
TheSideQuestsOfZelda
holy hell, I don't mean to pick on you specifically but apparently a large amount of you don't know what chemical castration is...
madetheaccountjustforyou
No it doesn't you fucking barbarian twat.
TypicalShmosby
This is barbaric AF. Therapy would likely be the most effective/humane route.
Zokalwe
Go get a phD in psychiatry and endocrinology before assuming how it works you moron.
impulsespeed37
How about we start by NOT making it illegal for someone to seek help if they feel urges that may lead to something awful. Let's HELP them.
webcamtarantula
Don't be ridiculous this is imgur. We hate rehabilitation, just slit their throats and throw them in a ditch.
woozle
Argentina, Australia, Estonia, Israel, Moldova, New Zealand, Poland and Russia.
woozle
not sure if TOTALLY accurate.
imaginedear
Except that it doesn't fix anything. Sex abuse is as much about power as desire. you can be abusive without a hard dick.
UnintentionalMasculineMicroaggressions
or...you know.... treat the underlying psychological disease … make it possible for people to get help before they commit a crime…
MilkofAmnesia
But wouldn't it be cheaper to just use a knife?
conputer
I thought they found that this does not in fact remove the urges?
CasualMcFly
I believe therapy is a much better choice. Simply punishing people and mutilating them does not stop an urge that caused criminal behavior.
JagoAldrin
Why the Hell was that downvoted?
krapmyself
This might stop the ones that get sexual satisfaction from it, but not the rapist types, it would only make it worse for victims.
BlasserDuennerJunge
If you think this helps, you're stupid. This doesn't take the lust, just the ability to masturbate. It often leads to back events.
BlasserDuennerJunge
Poland is doing this and the results are as you could expect. Shit. Better offer therapy for people with this sexual abnormality to >
BlasserDuennerJunge
> prevent this. Like Netherland and Germany are already offering these options.
Zoeoliver28
They're currently trialling this in HMP Whatton in England!
webcamtarantula
Fuck me that is worrying. I hope there is enough sanity left over here to stop that happening.
Tehadam
They already did it to Alan Turing, because he was gay. Which, led him to commit suicide.
amanwithapickleandascam
The US won't chemically castrate sex offenders due to the fact it prevents the use of genitalia but not the urges that caused them to action
nyxicus
In Sweden, paedophiles can enter a study voluntarily and be chemically castrated to prevent them becoming sex offenders.
iamthisguy247
Makes sense, if they can recognize the urge before acting on it, why not be proactive and avoid the issue.
TheBigGay
cool. and if someone acts on it they should be executed by hanging.
webcamtarantula
Now that is a good idea. Actually fucking helping people. I know it's a hard concept for the imgur community to grasp though.
flowseeker
Some states in the US allow offenders to opt for it in return for a reduced sentence.
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nyxicus
The subjects are paedophiles who have called a prevention-hotline and been offered to participate in the study, so I don't think normal 1/?
nyxicus
people would encounter it really. They're studying the effects of a drug named Degarelix, I assume the reason the test subjects are 2/?
nyxicus
paedophiles is simply to protect children who can't defend themselves or even understand what's going on. 3/3
tellaman
But does it work?
ScientificallyScientificScience
Isn't that what they did to Alan Turing? This doesn't seem civil if done involuntarily.
Kittynomnoms
Nope. Sorry, but fucking with peoples' bodily autonomy (generally considered a human right) is wrong, even if the person is a criminal. 1/2
Kittynomnoms
Even in a perfect world where nobody has this done unjustly, forcing it on them makes you almost as bad as them, in a way. 2/2
HandsomeJackWilshere
As someone who's father was falsely accused of sexual assault of a child, and was ultimately found not guilty, I'd worry that some people 1
HandsomeJackWilshere
Would be falsely found guilty, once you do something like this you can't exactly reverse it.
TheSideQuestsOfZelda
I'm sorry that happened to your dad, but to reverse it you'd just stop taking the drugs....
HandsomeJackWilshere
Really? I believe you, I just figured it was something like a one time vaccine. Autism and infertility, hell of a way to live. /s
voidedhen
That's fucking stupid
sDsnAlien
Explain why
MechaNinja
The problem with "this should be done everywhere" is that folks in the US can become sex offenders for drunkenly peeing in public.
Daloth
Fuck that. You can be a sex offender for having nudes sent to you without your consent.
ecodude
Fuck that! You can be a sex offender if you're a teen and send another teen your own nudes, when both of you consent.
barnwolf
Ya, what's so wrong with a nineteen year old guy send dick picks to his thirteen year old girlfriend. /sarcasm
ecodude
More like a sixteen year old girl sending pics to her sixteen year old boyfriend gets both jail time and registered as sex offenders if they
barnwolf
Pretty sure that's going to depend on the state. Most states probably won't give jail time for that.
ecodude
Are actually caught.
Daloth
In 20 years we will look back on this & say how stupid we were as a species once we have the science to both detect and treat pedophiles.
Daloth
Pro tip: We're already almost there. We can already measure the hormonal and physiological differences in their brains.
LonelyBrannigan
Terrible idea: the convicted innocent, even if exonerated, will still be castrated.
alchemist12345
I thought its being done in the US too.
Mirawatts
I've heard it's an option you can take to lower your sentence. However mandating it would violate the 8th amendment. (i.e. Cruel & Unusual)
KangeeGold
Chemically? I say it should be mechanically.
Etazin
With a hammer
imaginaryPeppers
Maybe manually
Manaslu
Chemistry is cooler
LordThursday
8th amendment prevents shit like that in the US
DicksTakeDickpicsWithSelfieSticks
Then send them to an unofficial CIA base somewhere.
KangeeGold
The 8th amendment was written when it was common to marry 12 year olds.
Daloth
The age of consent being 18 is literally less than 50 years old in America, and still isn't in most states or civilized countries.
NihilistArbysBannedAccount
That was never common
Muddskipper2
*cough cough* Islam *cough cough*
Daloth
Christians were far worse for it. Hell, Mary was fucked by an infinitely old deity when she was just 12.
HD226868
Ah yes, the old 'it's old therefore it's bad' argument. Cousin to the 'it's new therefore it's bad'.
KangeeGold
I'm not saying it's bad because it's old, I still believe in the 5th amendment, but the 8th amendment was created before crimes like (1/2)
KangeeGold
(2/2) statutory rape were a becoming a problem. We need now more than ever, guarantees that any crime is never a repeat offence.
AceOfBlack
Uh huh... Unless the penalty for rape is death or life in prison, you will never have any such "guarantee".
NQA1
I too prefer the old fashion way.
pptninja
Can't beat manual
Thistly
I can understand why people want to punish pedophiles harshly; but by the time they've committed the crime, society has already failed (1/2)
Thistly
to protect a child- which quite frankly is what matters. We need better preventative methods, for instance detection/watch-lists. (2/2)
skwint
Unfortunately, lacking a small army of telepathic pedosensitive mutants, preventing it happening _again_ seems to be our only option.
Thistly
Perhaps. although, offering assistance to those pedophiles who are trying to not act on their impulses would be a good start.
TakWriterOfWorlds
That would require a rational informed discussion though.
Postgradconfused
There is literally 0 way to do that without infringing on the nation as a whole
TakWriterOfWorlds
There's one way: remove the stigma from the mental disease paraphilia so that people dealing with it get treatment before they offend.
Thistly
Sick name Btw Tak.
TakWriterOfWorlds
Thanks!
Postgradconfused
I'm American and there is 0 change of the stigma of sexual assault of children will change.
Thistly
What @TakWriterOfWorlds is saying, I believe, is to remove the stigma around pedophiles getting help before they commit an assault.
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Postgradconfused
It starts with one thing and the end will be when our civil liberties are all gone.
fromagewit
And to give up privacy is quite a big step to deal with like 5% of the cases the grand majority of abuse is by family and friends
IMadeThisOnlyForDestinyCodeBegging
Actually what should be done is deal with the stigma of being a pedophile and help them get psychological help to prevent the crimes.
Thistly
Yes, this as well. Unfortunately, the sorts of policies needed are hard to fully express in 140 letters.
IMadeThisOnlyForDestinyCodeBegging
Agree with you on that one. Too hard to explain the difference between a pedophile and a child molester with only 140 letters.
Muddskipper2
Type it up, screencap it, post link to the image of your reply. That's how you can give your full answers, unless you're too lazy