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CalvinandH0bbes
#5 looks like a hellfire droid from Star Wars
DiracsDelta
These ideas range from "why?" to "that will last 10 miles tops".
MaplePhoenix
https://media2.giphy.com/media/4I6apM8epR7bi/giphy.gif
Vernietiging
Just another pack of wet dreams by hipster designers who do not know jack shit about engineering and production.
Drzhivago138
General Grievous approves, but only if you add a set of legs.
preparetosigh
Some of these ideas have been around for a long time. I can point to books or movies that had a couple of them. Cool visualizations. +1
nasreal
Yeah, first one is directly out of Snow Crash with YT's skateboard.
mybrothersmario
Can we please for the love of god stop sensationalizing these shit designs done by designers with no engineering experience?
TheMovieGalaxyQuest
This is what happens when you let artists design technology instead of engineers. Looks cool, is utter shit.
Ultrin
I can see the iPlay having some uses: https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/9/9f/Hailfire_droid.jpg/revision/latest?cb=200804
GlennBecksChalkboard
Here's how the actual tires of the future look like:
GigavoltFox
I think I read about Flexup in Snow Crash
whoisyourdaddy
#9 teleportation will eliminate the need for cars altogether. (Praise me, I am so brilliant)
SchrodingerCatTax
It's an eternity in there.
cousteau
You need a fancy gif to back your claim.
prodmerc
Everyone working on EVs, rockets & shit - if someone actually invents a teleporter, he's likely to be murdered and his work destroyed :D
Roboholic
ineedtotalkaboutsomethings
It's horizen zero dawn
Roboholic
Love that game. Playing it now
ineedtotalkaboutsomethings
Saaaame it's my favorite
Moljnir
Snow Crash!
peterjolly5
Thank you!
Mengmoshu
Exactly what I thought of when I saw the wheel adapting to the steps!
XenoWoof
Gave up looking for sauce in comments: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e91z1kaO_jo
FurToaster
Serioiusly??? There is a watermark on each of the GIFs & the last GIF has credits! Did you not watch the moving pictures??
XenoWoof
That's how I found the youtube video, using the credits so yes, I wasn't that blind :(
FurToaster
ahhh... MilaWoof... i forgot the last one... mybad. i got it from Futurism.com
jcom210
For some background this is a student project. Each concept was done by different students and the video was produced separately by Hancook.
MostSereneDoge
If you listen closely, you can hear the faint sound of engineers crying.
VindictiveRidge
It's not all that faint; my husband's practically weeping in my ear as he looks over my shoulder.
Osarphi
oh god. So it's true. Some crazy people DO marry engineers... How is it ? The taste of spreadsheets in the morning ?
SkippedOver
More like "Five Transportation Concepts for Kickstarter" guaranteed to make a lot of money that won't deliver due to scientific issues like
SkippedOver
Solar Roadways, Thorium Cars, Self Filling Water Bottles, and many more!
FckyourselfSarah
I love the designs that require indestructible materials and "magic" movement.
Tunisia
Concept = fiction
FurToaster
Yes, thats how one starts the process...
TheMovieGalaxyQuest
One starts the process by letting engineers work out concepts, and not artists.
FurToaster
NO!! give me this tomorrow & without the sassy Engineer tuder please ;) http://fsd.trekships.org/operations/images/tricorder-6.gif
TheMovieGalaxyQuest
I would sell my left... no, that guy's left testicle for a tricorder!
TheMovieGalaxyQuest
But yeah, there are new ideas, and there are stupid bullshit things, that are invalidated by half a minute of thinking. These are the latter
FurToaster
I mean Comon... The flexup wheels on skateboards powered by handheld magneto-harpoons attaching to cars with ShiftTrac would be SWEEET!!!!
IWishIWereNotAllergicToCats
It's a bit like how children "invent" spaceships and games consoles and shit, with similar skill at naming
uzerok
iPlay? What's the deal with putting a lower case i in front of a capitalized letter if you aren't Apple or a programmer?
Cheomesh
It has been fashionable for years.
CrazyCatLad
iCan't stand it.
VoiceOfVerisimilitude
To attract iDiots.
aesta
Bah! Hungarian notation is the work of the devil and should be purged from modern programming standards.
cousteau
szjhklmgf32pYou're right.
NachoPete
iDon'tKnow
cousteau
It's not lowercase though; maybe it's IPlay because it has an IP address
uzerok
It kind of is at the beginning of that segment:
cousteau
It seems I am an iDiot. m(
CrissCross35
Because then you can charge people extra
uzerok
iPay more?
digitalist1
FurToaster
https://media.giphy.com/media/374pcIBVEGb6g/giphy.gif
Cordite101
Did the Flex Up tire give anyone else visions of the skateboard wheels that Y.T. used in Snowcrash?
VulpisFoxfire
From skimming the comments...sounds like a *lot* of people recognized that. :-)
HardRockAnal
Ah yes, the classic : looks cool and runs on good spirits - theres literally no engines, on any of these. Welp, thats why thet are concepts
Folio77
Yeah, great for movies, not so much for real-life today.
Cheomesh
I keep thinking about that concept bicycle that has not only no real way to transmit from the pedals,but has a tiny set of gears to 1/
Cheomesh
spin the rear tire.Yay, stupid high gear ratio FOREVER. 2/2
TehButternaut
Its all fun and games until that bus turns into a trash compactor and people start leaking out of the windows.
jmuije
Hey. I would play the SHIT out of that game. Sounds more fun than these concept videos.
LupusLilium
I was more worried about the 'vehicle' with two wheels which is just asking for death.
WhalesVirginia
You mean a motorcycle?
LupusLilium
I meant the one with the wheels on the side, but I guess it's asking for death the similar way that motorcycles are. Except you can jump off
LupusLilium
of a motorcycle before you get hit if you see it coming.
TehButternaut
Basically
alchemist12345
UrinalCakeUranium
You read my mind.
Gayforbae
Well that just looks like a good time
dolphinbagel
Still a better idea than the ones above.
tokensmedium
So you really, truly believe that?
FurToaster
His user name is 5dollarfootlong.... guy loves the IT from South Park.... or having Aids... one of the two.
MudkipsRevenge
http://imgur.com/IJeJ4
DannyVino7
thevehiclemagician
This needs more points. U bring the gif
ItsaMeMaaario
Still better than flying commercial.
Strugg1eBuss
Was waiting for this comment
thevehiclemagician
Why u no gif
poTAYtoesBOILemMASHemSTICKeminaSTEW
I was expecting a gif under this comment
HorsefaceBeeguy
Wasn't this in steamboy but wooden and without the sucking and fucking.
tgtaptarget
Dreadric
fedmoney
Yep. Instantly thought of this.
Hankheals
Came here for this. Not disappointed.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
I like the murder bus that smashes everyone into an accordion. That one is the funniest.
dagg3r
Hahahha
mylivewire
Yea, hate to be in that during a software bug.
rezurok
Beckdel
That was my first thought, when iRobot happens that bus can literally pick up a full load and turn into a trash compactor
prodmerc
All of these concepts look very useful for "managing" an overpopulation problem -_-
TheNameOfMyCatIsEmergencyFoodSupply
Pushing deformable frame to the limit
TakoBandito
Everyone like murder buses.
Fjellsmell
well. first they need to be able to build roads that does not look like a mortar strike hit it.
Hoodwinker27
Lol
370zSteve
101, 280
Buckbeak1486
Do*
CattMan
Around here, they'll pave a new road and a month later dig a trench to run pipe or conduit under it.
Arsikere
lookin at you, PENNSYLVANIA
ILikeNewEnglandBeer
I love New England Beer, but I don't really love New England Roads
10mm404
A company in Texas made a machine that repaves a mile of road in 1 day and at 20% the cost of common repaving using material the road is 1/2
10mm404
Made out of. It heats up the asphalt, grinds it up, and lays it back down. Only using new gravel & tar to fill in spots where holes were 2/2
MechanusIncarnate
That is gonna kill so many jobs.
10mm404
It'll create more jobs because cities, businesses, and homeowners will be far more willing spending less money to have a better road :) ;)
BeerTaxer
I see you have driven Norwegian roads
DespiseEveryone
Check the Netherlands. It is quite easy.
d1d1t4t3hlulz0hl4wdy
Illinois ran out of money, shut the lottery down, and basically stopped all road construction, even if it was in the works. GL with that!
harambedaycare
Sounds like you need some good ol' fashioned Socialism!
denigreur
Are you from Montreal ?
Fjellsmell
norway. so same problems you got there we got here.
muhvitus
Roads. We don't need roads where we are going.
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TheEvenPrez
The struggle is real in New England
SederHishtalshelus
Fucking correct
ThisMahSwamp
IMO the sheer cost of the product would make it unappealing
CommentsAreDumb
Easy. Don't let the government manage roads.
EggFooYung
Oh god no. Do not let private companies manage the roads. They'll charge you for usage and mileage, and then break traffic to charge more.
obamalamadingdongditch
Wanna go down MY street? That'll be $35
sparky2212
Its because Americans demand low taxes. That and our military budget. Germans are taxed a lot more than the US, but their roads are better
HeThrustsHisFistsAgainstthePostsandStillInsistsHeSeesYourMom
Tolls, tolls for all
ag166
You only have to pay tolls if you drive on the road. Now gasoline for any purpose is taxed, and electric cars pay no taxes. That ain't fair.
Einstein9073
Not sure if trolling, dangerously naive, or just dumb.
AlmostScientist
then who will do it? A private company that will ultimately prefer profit than producing actual solutions?
ag166
Companies that provide bad services lose business. Governments that provide bad service just raise taxes and increase the budget.
Nigglesnush
This already happens with government.
DimasPrasetya
Hi, transportation engineer here working for federal government. Road projects construction are done by lowest responsible bidder contractor
InvadingYourSpaces
Ratings based systems where your company loses budget the worse the roads are, paving the way for better companies to take your contracts.
idonthavetimeforthiseither
Good idea, because that's worked soooo well in the past
HeThrustsHisFistsAgainstthePostsandStillInsistsHeSeesYourMom
And who enforces that system? The government?
calldrdaley
"ultimately prefer profit than producing actual solutions" I have never heard a more backwards explanation of how business works.
AlmostScientist
Except for when the fossil fuel industry and others like it prefer to continue making profits instead of exploring new alternatives to fuel.
calldrdaley
You mean go bankrupt? They'll be more efficient within their industry but it's government that protects them from phasing out as they should
CascadianTwilight
Libertarianism is astrology for men
jaredisawesomeandstuff
I'm going to steal this, thank you
idonthavetimeforthiseither
Good one, can i steal that?
CascadianTwilight
Sure. I stole it from dankmtl
idonthavetimeforthiseither
Good rule of thumb; steal from the best
Bystandr
The tires can help with that , too
Strongharbour432
Well the first step is to actually have roads.... We can go from there
SinsOftheErectPhoenix
yeah, our roads could use some of these concept ideas. these transportation concepts seems limited to cities
DrTacticalKeyboard
Solar roadways yo
cousteau
Because roads made of a material specific for roads aren't already hard enough to maintain!
DrTacticalKeyboard
go look them up, its a modular design that is holding up better under testing than current materials
cousteau
What about grip, price, and ability to get rid of water? Because currently the best alternative to asphalt is concrete and it sucks.
DrTacticalKeyboard
http://www.solarroadways.com/Specifics/Numbers here is the website, all those issues are addressed by the tabs on the left
CapnYoaz
But we can replace those roads with science.
MrMightyMackerelMan
I live in Michigan and I honestly thought about how nice the roads look in those gifs. Where do you live?
Fjellsmell
norway. these roads will never happen here :(
Talmorean
But that Budgetary spending yo...
Annemoon
We generally have those in the Netherlands, we take pride in our roads!
WolfeBZ
I live on an island here in Belize and we still make our roads from cobblestone.
cousteau
Nah, just make all the wheels based on Flexup
AlmostScientist
The issue with this is that in any area that experiences winter conditions the plows will always fuck up the roads. (1/)
Gayforbae
What about those glass solar panel roads of the future that were discussed?
AlmostScientist
those might work in areas without snow...but plows would destroy them.
Gayforbae
Install heating pads in them? They're already supposed to have LEDs in them to replace paint markers.
Rakugabi
Science will just have to find a way to get rid of winter then. No biggie.
PSTN0
We're working on it. Winter should be a thing of the past by 2100.
AlmostScientist
then it'll be forever summer, bring on the 200 degree asphalt that melts tires.
ThrowMamaFromTheTrain
There won't be tires by then.
AlmostScientist
Another problem that arises is the fact that many times the roads and sewer lines are on top of one another and can cause sinkholes (2/)
CraftyyWitch
Another issue is state governments actually funding road repairs
FlorbFnarb
Or maybe we could just accept that wheels that require perfect roads are a bad idea.
jdizzleforizzle
That happen
jdizzleforizzle
That is caused by utility crews not compacting the soil as they put it back over the utility lines. If a crew does a good job, you wont have
samsonguy920
An additional problem is the asshole who didn't put the manhole cover back and now I need help getting out. Help?
DarkUranium
An additional problem is idiots getting stuck in manholes after you remove their covers.
AlmostScientist
and the ground itself moves depending on the weather and area you live in. Mudslides, runoff erosion, and even tectonic activity (3/3)
twostepsfromlost
You forgot the the exansion and contaction of ice when it warms enough to melt into the cracks during the day and freezes again at night.
SirNames
Yes, these problems need innovative solutions so our roads don't look like they barely survived a mortar strike.
pineapplesuprise
What about building roads out of those meta materials that heal themselves? Sure it'd be expensive but that would probably work?
EternalSunshineOfTheSpotlessMind
I was thinking more like developing a flexible material, maybe a type of rubber such as what they use for running tracks, except stronger.
kawwmoi
The problem is exactly that it's expensive. Why spend a fortune to fix what already works?
Andalite
Did you just read an entire comment chain about how roads don't work, and then say they work?
jamineal
because the roads where I've lived don't work
jknight384
Unless its a major break in the sewer line, they won't cause sinkholes. There had better be minimal leaks, or get contaminated ground water
AlmostScientist
even small leaks in a line can cause a sinkhole if the ground material is susceptible to it. Clay is easily eroded.
Bobwithglasses
What about limestone?
ThePotatoBandit
Limestone plates are easily eroded by groundwater. A lot of sinkholes and cave systems. "Karst topography"
Cthulhukitten
The plows? The roads gets fudged when the ground frost thaws.
anthaneezy
This doesn't Explain the 405 in LA. Even the 10 inbound is a shitshow. Like driving on a washboard.
AlmostScientist
idk dude the 270/495 roads in MD are in decent shape only cuz the government is constantly repairing them.
gaidinbdj
There are several alternatives to commonly-used road surfaces that would avoid that problem. The issue is they're expensive as fuck.
weregonnaneedashitloadofdimes
But climate change will hear it up so much, no more snow. Prob solved. Cool tires here we come.
jridley
It's not the plows that cause the damage. It's frost heave. The roads look just fine all winter w/plows, but in spring they fall apart.
DrTacticalKeyboard
solar roadways yo
Ziek
What about the concept that solar panels in the road which heat the road so plows are not needed
soepie7
Not where Iive, and we have winter conditions.
FurToaster
Wow.... So, do you assume the sun is falling into the horizon and breaking back out of the earth EVERY day?? Caus its only once per week ;)
soepie7
FurToaster
Seriously? After that abortion of engish grammar you tried to write as your 1st comment? "Not where live, and have winter...." wtf?!?!?
cardboardwhales
Everywhere is different bro
soepie7
He said "in any area with winter conditions." It's already not true for the Netherlands
sansansan
"Winter" :)
Vicari0usMe4
Isn't just the plows, temperatures going above and below and above and below 0 will cause water to erode roads quick. Springtime in Canada
Vicari0usMe4
is Pothole Season
Jufasa
This on top of heavy rains can really destroy roads, one tiny pothole or crack and an extreme rainstorm can become a huge problem as well
Movietimeme
That would be nice if that really could be the excuse but i live in CA where it dose not snow and the road is still shit.
AlmostScientist
idk bruh MD's government takes care of our roads on a regular.
Cthulhukitten
Maintenance, they're cheap bastards
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TanithRosenbaum
The Autobahn does crack, occasionally. But we repair it within a few hours. Source: I'm German. (Btw, why does it cost jobs? *confused*)
rbudrick
Beacuse it is not under perpetual construction like most highways.
TanithRosenbaum
You're mistaken there. Every year, quite a bit of it is a construction zone for a month or two (over summer break) cf: https://goo.gl/d4gx7J
Onesuavegrizzly
Fewer repairs would need to happen so we wouldn't need thousands of people in every state just to maintain our busted excuse for roads.
Delta7x
I'm not even sure those thousands of those jobs exist in NY. Taxes keep getting raised to "fix roads" but they're still Swiss cheese.
TanithRosenbaum
Ahhhh I see. Uh, I'm sorry, but that sounds like a stupid way of thinking (and one that pretty effectively prevents progress...)
Ryebread91
But isn't it always under construction as well?
Jufasa
The autobahn doesn't have to endure very extreme tempuratures like different places throughout the us though
LeBayer
Are 40 to - 20 °C not extrem enough for you?
Jufasa
Idk where you got those numbers, out your ass? http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/climate/Germany.htm
Nephus
It also has a huge initial overhead cost. Unions love repair bills, but a township won't budge on a multi-million dollar remodel.
mirria
In Quebec they've finally got wise enough to build highways with concrete. Then 20 years later they put asphalt on top. Lasts a lot better.
Ryebread91
So combining the two?
Nephus
Here's hoping Canada just invades the US and we let them have it. Just don't try and make me speak French. It's not happening.
lintwizard
In Michigan, the salt they cover the roads with is corrosive and causes the most significant damage. Source: my civil engineering profs.
sbow242
They use a mix of salt and sand, at least where I live in MI
AlmostScientist
Yeah there are other salts but regular salt is the cheapest and it's highly corrosive. Calcium Chloride is less corrosive but it's expensive
lintwizard
I know in Colorado they use sand, which I imagine isn't corrosive. Salt is waaaaay more available in Michigan, though.
AlmostScientist
I think sand is good but I think the problem is that it doesn't dissolve. I'm not too sure cuz I'm not a civil engineer lol
ThrowMamaFromTheTrain
The sand just increases traction. It doesn't melt ice.
Jufasa
In NY they use both which can be worse, sand blasting away at the paint/coating leaving openings for the salt to attack
AShortLongUserName
As an engineer, way too many moving parts to be a valid concept at this moment
Rivalyn
I'm not an engineer and I can see obvious, concept-killing flaws with all of these things.
ChiLLeCheeze
As a consumer, I bet those would be expensive to replace when they wear out.
PoopertonUnit
This is literally reinventing the wheel
SometimeLurker
I don't know how this doesn't have more points.
Insomnia297
And why would the wheels of the bus need to link on later?
1Lion4Owls
Calling it the "iPlay" invalidated the concept, no matter how many moving parts.
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnm
Why iPlay? Why the i? Why the fucking Play? Is it an Apple design? What's so "Play" about it? This makes me so fucking angry...!
10mm404
They add the letter "i" in front of basic words so it sounds cool and people will buy it because they're stupid!
Overcucumbered
And I doubt it will be even slightly worth the price for what it does. Why go up stairs smoothly? Just build a ramp or endure the shaking
hangemhigh13
I love the fact that there is a casual hoverboard, as if it's a new concept and hasn't been tried endlessly.
EveryonesCousin
Not to mention power requirements.
PatrikLilja
All of them are more complex and have none or very little gain.
DevonGronka
wtf reason is there to detach wheels? a clutch could easily do the same thing with virtually no energy wasted/ no wear on parts.
McGreed
Yeah, these concepts might be valid if they are for vehicles on a spacestation or something, but not on a planet, unless indoors.
cousteau
I once tried to design an "always stable adapting 4-legged table 'hypertripod'" with moving legs. It'd permanently fall.
cousteau
My point being, I don't think something with so many moving parts will even be stable and have enough power.
DevonGronka
I'll take "unmanageable, needlessly complex ideas" for 600, Alex.
Cheelio
As an engineer as well. I agree with your statement.
fearandloathinginaz
The biggest problem is grip- we already have cars that maximize the available traction. We need that vacuum car they made back in the 80's.
Gayforbae
The Lamborghini veneno has enough downforce that it could be driven upside down at like only 100mph. Actually a lot of hypercard can
fearandloathinginaz
My point being those goofy wheels wouldn't make it turn any better.
WhalesVirginia
I wanna see proof :)
WhalesVirginia
Non-mathematical is preferred, a sketch is ideal, and a video would be perfect :D
Gayforbae
Essentially, the down force is greater than the cars weight
Gayforbae
Well it's pretty much math only because no one would be stupid enough to drive a multi-million dollar car, 1 of 3, upside down.
calpiico
The first gif definitely seems doable in the next 10 years
rmmmm
the pure and dirtless/faultless world hasn't come yet. But is it really a thing we want?
Prebez
^^That
retgarr
No engineering degree needed. Just need to not be from a movie studio or marketing department.
10mm404
It's a cool idea but they'd wear out quickly and break easily!
AShortLongUserName
Exactly... Too many moving parts
10mm404
Maybe that's why men get erectile dysfunction, they have sex way to much ;)
AShortLongUserName
Are you flirting with me? Cause I'm drunk and I see that as flirting
10mm404
No, but if you want me to flirt with you? I'm typing until you keep reading this so you don't see that I'm joking.
Znayx
What is your take on the stair climbing wheels and the two-wheel personal carts? What might be the issues?
Nightcaste
The stair climbing thing is begging for debris to get jammed in it, and... Ramps are a thing. The two wheel thing: how do you get in?
mindstorm8191
I think u need a design 1st to discuss issues. With the stair wheels, maybe fill shocks w/ air to extend them?
DirectorBright
The first has way too many moving parts. The second would start spinning when you tried to brake or accelerate. Reinventing the wheel.
CpaoV
Retard people falling over and creating demands.. ruining the company and entering an age of Anarchy while beating the bourgeoise.....
Znayx
Has that happened with motorcycles, bicycles or unicycles?
CrazyWithTheCheeseWiz
Nope only tricycles
Znayx
... People sued over falling over on tricycles. I don't want to live here any more.
AShortLongUserName
The two wheel carts are fine but the stair wheels, how to actuate and power each "wedge" as well as how to stabilize and keep it intact
HPCmonkey
Not to mention normal tires can climb stairs just fine as long as they have a little bit of tread.
PatrikLilja
I don't see any benefit from the two wheeled cart over any four wheel design. Its just made to look futuristic. 1/2
Syrpynt
Welcome to marketing... Where people call engineers 'bad' because we can't come up with something cheap AND functional for every solution.
PatrikLilja
I dont see any reason it would "optimize" car sharing in cities any more than a normal car... 2/2
thevehiclemagician
I thought of non active flexible fingers that will contour to rough surfaces. Anyone wanna run with that?
Obsidianpick9999
Or how about a thick reinforced flexible material in a loop, then a rubber tube filled with air to take some more of the strain then (1)
Obsidianpick9999
have that around a metal hub. Maybe give it a nice name and then create a special surface for it to reduce danger to pedestrians. (End)
FungusForge
As a sort of layman, I imagine gyroscopes would maintain yaw/roll (within reason). As for actuating the wedges, isn't there that ...
FungusForge
ferrofluid suspension? I know that's probably trademarked or whatever, but I mean, in theory.
Syrpynt
So this thing will costover $9M in R&D and sell each one for $200k+ because there is low demand or that they wouldn't make enough profit?
FungusForge
This isn't to say its practical, as I can only imagine this in an office complex or something, where segways and ramps would do instead.
Threepointonefourblahblah
If you dislike moving parts, was engineering the best career choice?
Gayforbae
I love intricate moving parts, but unfortunately. They're expensive
IllusivePanda
You see moving parts, we see points of failure and clients who demand space program results on lemonade stand budgets
Dekker3D
Any engineer will be happier with fewer moving parts, even though many sorts of engineering are all about moving parts.
Gayforbae
Not true. But it does make our life easier.
Ravenwing14
Even as non-engineer, my first thought was "yeah, and then one rock gets in there and poof". Tires are simple, work consistently.
EveryonesCousin
Exactly. Tires work and are easy to manufacture. Want more grip? Wider tires.
GaryTheCuttlefish
No. We need smaller tires on the big tires for maximum tireage.
Tarelgeth
Because yeah those sideways sliding wheels are never going to have a panel snap loose due to high sheering force
n8wishim
As a fellow engineer, there's so much bullshit it's not even worth to enter a discussion.
cousteau
But it looks cool!
denigreur
That and flying cars. Oh shit
chesterthegreat
In terms of physics or because they would cost like 80k per wheel?
gaynorvader
I'm a programmer, not an engineer and even I can see that these'll probably never happen
LazyEngineer
No ai can control that shit fast enough
LazyEngineer
Being one, i come here to get laughs and only crush peoples dream when no single comment has , just let them have their fun
Syrpynt
Let's start with a lesson in manufacturability, material strengths, and limits of physical reality!
LazyEngineer
These guys need mech 101 and control systems 101
Syrpynt
Servos or motors need power supply IN THE WHEEL. More unbalanced weight. Also, business folks will say: "Is there a profitable demand?" NO.
mindstorm8191
The stair-climbing wheels would be great for wheelchairs. Had a similar idea before. Maybe use flexible bars in a circle, but you'd have
mindstorm8191
to have a way to adjust for different weights of the rider
bowerpower631
The exponential growth of technology will certainly allow these to happen.
n8wishim
You can type a letter on a typewriter, scan it to pdf and send it by email. Just because the technology allows it doesn't mean it's useful.
Syrpynt
Growth only happens when the rich throw money at it for more profit. Or for weaponizing something. But even the gov has budgets.
Nutjob
And if frogs had wings they wouldn't slap their ass when they hopped
StevenAlequin
That is because engineering went from being about advancment to "how much money can it make us?"
GrootyMcGrootface
Unfortunately, engineering doesn't pay for itself.
TinyRocktopus
No the first concept wouldn't make a car turn any better even if it could be produced this is just cool looking bullshit
StevenAlequin
I understand. Some of the concepts are silly, but it does not negate my comment.
Athorable
Designers watching this are probably in need of some new underpants. Engineers watching this are looking for their whiskey.
Rexli78
It all looks stupid,
FernandoRumdebum
I'm a high school drop out and a fucking IDIOT but even I can see that these just won't work ha
Gayforbae
As an engineer, don't make assumptions about me! I'm already figuring out in my head how to make these, itll just cost the GDP of coruscant
iSoulend
The thing I love about those kinds of concept videos, is that the thing they're presenting never make it.
iSoulend
I'm not even kidding with a reverse survivor bias, I actually mean it, concept that makes it don't look like that.
LazyEngineer
Damn this rekt this post
IraqiWalker
100% accurate.
NexiKuro
Most are also bad from a non engineering standpoint, especially #5 , what's the point of sharing a car in a city with no room for luggage? 1
NexiKuro
2/2 The one edge a car has in a city with halfway decent public transportation is moving more than you can conveniently carry yourself.
mybrothersmario
I'm not a designer or engineer, I just think that all of this stuff looks like complete shit.
PokoOnoandtheJamJams
Well. You're right
DocBenny
Drifters are looking at #2 and scoffing.
TristanBomb
Designers grab the champagne, engineers grab the vodka.
btraqnasty
And the architects are too busy with their crayons
HPCmonkey
I already have the balvenie 12 out.
pixelsnader
Design = form + functionality. What you mean are design students or artists.
SL4pthePANCAKES
Also from a law enforcement view at the "flex up" no one would ever vandalise this thing sitting in a public place like that...
Thefluffernutter
My city has public bikes out on the street in the same way and no one has stolen them or really vandalized them.
SL4pthePANCAKES
You are very fortunate
GlennBecksChalkboard
This is why shit like Fontus gets ~$350k in funding. For some reason people think "It looks cool = it works".
DiracsDelta
As an engineer, well put
redbagelpuppies
So... About those flying cars.
Osarphi
Ask physicists. Engineers are busy.
Syrpynt
You got giant drones/quadcopters. What more do you want? Normal citizens to get their pilots licenses??? LOL gg
redbagelpuppies
"What more do you want?"
applesforjuice
Engineer here. Thought of all of these (besides last one) as a child. Knew then there were issues. These designs are worse than I'd imagined
SergeantSalsa
Engineers looking at this just laugh because they know this shit ain't happening
FsImgur
Just build it out of solar power and vegetable matter.
Agouti
The hyper-mobility wheel is an attempt at a real problem in wheel dynamics and could improve grip; if it makes it into Formula 1 then maybe.
physicsisalwaysrelevant
To survive formula 1, that have to be more durable then conventional tires. Every one of these is more parts that break
InternationalPhoneticAlphabet
yeah, like F1 cars aren't already able to corner faster than the driver's body can handle.
GrootyMcGrootface
*laugh*
Znayx
Well... Those stair climbing wheels and the two-wheel personal carts seem decently reasonable. Could you point out the faults in those?
hugh705
The climbing wheels would beat the shit out of everything they hit, be heavy as shit, and have too many moving parts.
hugh705
The dual wheels would need to have some crazy counterbalance and braking ability to not spin you around. Also massive wheels are shit.
BattleCheese
Stair climbing wheel: This is how tires work today, just with air pressure instead of mech. Just deflate them a little. (1/2)
BattleCheese
(2/2) Mountain bikers use this effect all the time.
SergeantSalsa
"not happening" as in not going to be an everyday thing as cars for example are. And how would you brake with the two wheeler?
governmentgavemeagun
We already have one-person compact vehicles with two wheels... they are called motorcycles and have been around longer than cars have.
Osarphi
Cugnot's car : 1771 Michaux's motorcycle : 1867
governmentgavemeagun
Interesting... not sure if Cugnot's counts as a car (as it's a trike with no body), but otherwise timelines seem pretty matched. TIL
bochikiniki
wait for an accident... those drives are coming home in a body bag.
DarthSedition
Yes, if everyone else is driving a large steel wrecking Ball. By the time these would see large commercial use we'll have been working on
DarthSedition
Reducing carbon emissions long enough that most large vehicles should be off the roads.
bochikiniki
That's not the problem. it suffers from the same problem that smart cars have; small crumple zones.
2dozen22s
The more complex the machine, the more points of failure.
Anthemius
Hence the longevity of bikes.
SterlingDangerZoneArcher
Maintenance costs due to complexity. Fin
MasterUryi1
In my opinion the amount of miniaturization required is incredible
SquanchingonImgur
All mechanical shock obsorbtion is shit, and those wheels that large are just silly they have too many flaws.
Blurbsmith
I could imagine it being much slower and allowing bots to more cleanly navigate wreckage, but as personal transport, it seems unlikely.
Znayx
Why couldn't it be hydraulic shock absorption?
Znayx
Or is that also mechanical
Athorable
(Climbing wheels) So, you know how moving parts tend to break? You just put about ~50 moving parts in a wheel. Not to mention how heavy
Drarra
Hmm, I could imagine every piece being in a rail, driven by electromagnets. That should be fairly break-proof. Only issue is the power suppl
ServantOfTheGodEmperorOfUsersub
Also huge safety issue. Whoever rents those will get sued constantly. And everything here will break and cost a fortune.
Athorable
the whole thing will be and the massive moment of inertia.
Znayx
I understand the worry, but with leaning forward and the fact the wheels are still spinning and pulling you forward, shouldn't be terrible.
Znayx
But I totally get the moving parts issue. That makes a lot of sense. More points of failure.
CamelaShy
The wheels, as cool as they are, do not seem sustainable or cheap. Precision fitted parts + constant wear... Yeah nope...
gamejeepboi
Also the fact that all of the force and wear not shown would be on the edges of the individual pieces. Great way to shred tires.
Athorable
(Two large wheels) Try to brake and you start somersaulting. You need to develop a counter torqueing mechanism to make it work.
DarthSedition
The design seems to have that in mind, watching it accelerate and decelerate it appeared to shift the weight of the carriage accordingly.
APinkDragon
You seem to be implying that I don't want to be somersaulting.
Mortuos
Been done by an Australian uni group (idk which), twas actually quite functional. Surprisingly.
Athorable
At that point, why bother?
MufinMcFlufin
I think the point of that one was more building shocks into the wheel itself, but then you might as well just use a regular inflated tire.
Znayx
I figured having another small wheel contacting the ground just in front of the vehicle would help
JoeSaraza
and how about when you accelerate? a wheelie bar?
Athorable
You just invented a bicycle.
CptRobotNinja
Do you want a phone that can give your car bad directions? Cause thats doable
Syrpynt
MechanicalDesignEngineer here! Goodluck other engineers! I sure as fuck don't want to b the laughing stock when thePrototypes never work lol
PokoOnoandtheJamJams
Our lead ME used to work for Brammo and he would laugh his ass off at these lol
RatoMolhado
Another ME: let the prototypes be made by designers with their 3D printers. Then sit, relax, and laugh.
CrazyCatLad
As a 3D modeler in the construction toy industry, I'm already thinking of how to scale these down into toys.
OnePostCloserToAHappierLIfe
Please remember that your designs can and will affect future generations for good or ill.
playlikeachamp
If you get one made, can I get one for me.....i mean my kid?
CrazyCatLad
Best I can do right now considering the weekend: https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/fs/fa2c0852053433.59029d6ed1e8c.jpg
playlikeachamp
Now that....is sexy. Knex take me back to childhood.
CrazyCatLad
K'Nex laid me off 10 days after I posted that image. They can't handle my creativity.
HypersonicHero
Looking for A LOT of whiskey. It's all shit. 100% undiluted shit
Plaaant
Aww...
Athorable
Is the whiskey shit or your life?
d0o0o0d
Good engineers can afford good whisky.
Athorable
Valid point, but let's not throw the mediocre engineers under the bus. They are fighting the same fight here.
d0o0o0d
Sorry, the point I was trying to make is that only bad engineers would be drinking swill.
IUsedToBeTheWalrus
I'm looking at some of these thinking, "it's cool, but look at all the failure points!"
SteevyT
I'm not even looking for failure points yet I'm trying to figure out how any of this shit comes remotely close to supporting it's own weight
alchemist12345
Supposedly thats what an FMEA is for.But then again, most companies treat those as some bullshit papers they can make an auditor happy with.
Athorable
Classic case of "failure point is designer"
NotAHugeSpider
In tech support, it's known as the loose nut behind the keyboard.
StatelyRavenOfTheSaintlyDaysOfYore
There is an issue with the interface between the chair and keyboard is what I always use
Obsidianpick9999
Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard. PEBCAK, or an ID10T error.
kryoptik
#5 - The problem with a single axle design is that it lacks high-torque acceleration and will somersault upon hard braking.
10mm404
They wouldn't somersault, the person would just spin in the opposite direction.
Cheomesh
That exact style of "car" has been in like, every other PopSci magazine since 1950.
thevehiclemagician
Hehe. I know what you mean.
cgam1322
If the vehicle carrying people is automated then shouldn't that lead to less "stomping on the brakes"? Maybe these concepts are all "smart"?
asalamibacon
Or maybe they only look cool and are designed by someone with a lack of general understanding of physics
Tkeleth
^this
gleely
that's called the "quick dismount" and it's not a problem, it's a feature you have to pay extra to opt out of.
Znayx
What if you stuck a single (turning) wheel (closely attached pair) extended in front of everything?
Gayforbae
Soooooo a top fuel dragster?
SierraTM
But then it would just look stupid! Oh. Wait.
Znayx
I mean like the size of the wheel on a shopping cart, except actually well made. But yeah I know what you're actually getting at.
asalamibacon
So a 4 wheeled car with an unnecessarily complicated design and no storage capacity or passenger seats? People would definitely buy that.
Znayx
I'd keep it close to the "body" too
Falkh12
similar issue with the magnetiv plate. with the small surface it's hard to balance yourself, and inertia will win more than once.
Talmorean
That's what the helmets are for...
GoodbyeCassini
Also it will take like half an hour before some jackass sticks his arms between the moving wheels and accidentally gets his arms amputated.
hawkesnightmare
Looks like that was combatted by lowering the center of gravity and putting a long base on the cabin.
instantbeetle
That doesn't fix the problem at all. If you lock the axles up, you're only using resistance against the cabin, the wheels will keep going ->
thevehiclemagician
If a crazy person put the equivalent of wheelie bars on front and back...
thevehiclemagician
And keep moving forward while I puke on myself
N0HATS
Not to mention it's a deathtrap in of its shape and size alone
barnwolf
And the wheels are huge and expensive, and it turns like shit and...
Morg729
And parking
10mm404
You could use parallel parking by driving into it like it's a normal parking spot
Overcucumbered
And it lacks a purpose other than looking sci-fi. What's the point of making a big, impractical scooter?
thevehiclemagician
For free Internet points from people who are new to the game, of course
BarrettM
Well we dont have any segways with beefy tires or useless hoverboards...Oh wait...
kryoptik
Segways have the same problems and it would be many-times amplified if they ran at highway speeds.
thevehiclemagician
That's why there needs to be an intelligent computer system to control all of them. I know a corporation that is working on it now
MufinMcFlufin
It's a safety feature! If you break too hard you must be in danger so it launches you out!