Jan 25, 2017 7:22 PM
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Wuz314159
Customer: Wendy's it is!
Iwillratenudes
Except the customers are too complacent for this and Wendy's will probably follow suit shortly
Panda4hire
My local Mcdonalds just moved everyone into the back. I get my food faster and they have the same # of people working there.
youeatpiecesofshitforbreakfast
Where's my Royale with cheese?
impulsespeed37
I love to point out logical errors...this is coming sooner or latter. The system never calls in and the cost will pay for itself.
carrotsoup
I like to point out spelling errors.... Later* :(
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
YOU'VE ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD
DbzFanZero
When evolution becomes political fodder. Put down swords for rifles. Put horses to pasture for autos. There will forever be something new.
Gawky
Humans need not apply
dei1c3
First they automated the fast food jobs and I did not speak out because I didn't work in fast food.
Then they automated the transportation jobs and I did not speak out because I was didn't work in transportation.
Then they automated office jobs like HR, accounting, and paralegals, and I did not speak out because I did not work in those jobs.
Then they automated my job and there was no one left to speak for me.
And before you think your job is safe: http://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/downloads/academic/The_Future_of_Employment.pdf
testevo
Those are Boss! The less people I have to talk to the better...
LoneWolfingIt
Wrong, this was an experiment they had been working on long before the wage increase
jaybizzlr
Going to work though
Loverloofah
They haven't yet, I saw ordering stations 15 years ago in Arby's. They sucked then and they suck now.
True but wage increase pushes have been going on for a long time, not a recent trend it is just gaining more traction in the past few years.
secondbest
It's not the wages that are increasing its automation that's becoming cheaper. This cannot be stopped.
True enough, though wage increases only speed this along. However, labor will never be 100% replaced, until AI anyway
Not all labor will be replaced, but these people still need to live. Redistribute to pay people for creative work.
That would be most preferable, I wonder if we could convince congress to give artistic wages, like a stipend for producing art (or similar)
Verelse
The minimum wage is too low.
BaltimoreBlackSkins
$15*
The701
The lesson is, just shut up and live with a lousy situation, because trying to improve anything will only backfire on you.
Actually the lesson is get an education so you don't have to work minimum wage at mcdonalds
shutsman
Cause millions of people can just 'get an education and find a good paying job' it's just that simple
Some people work at McD's while getting an education. But if you think people should just "get jobs" point them to where they are.
When did I say "just get jobs"?
Minatex
1 education doesn't equal a job just a better chance. And 2 heaven forbid a job pay enough so you can at least pay rent.
Well first I'll direct you to the Card & Kreuger (1999) a paper detailing (although their conclusion is wrong and doesn't follow the data) 1
low income rent and basic needs which would actually make purchasing power higher for minimum wage employees and maybe slow the cycle to 4
In other words no matter how much minimum wage is increased to the wage is not the problem, the purchasing power is.
JustPornStuffs
Most economists agree that min wage increases has little effect on cost since indiv have more spending power and increase Econ activity
would be preferred because otherwise we are just in an endless cycle of wage increase price increase. This could be pushed onto primarily 3
what happens during a minimum wage increase, prices increase more dramatically than wages, thus price ceilings (although they create a DWL)2
periodic adjustments for general inflation.
mondeo88
These have been in France for years.
Bloodtearer
Because France has higher minimum wage and hopeless employer conditions.
FuturePerfectTense
What, black people?
Yeah
BrianforBrains
Or, you know. . CEOs could take a fraction less of their exorbitant income.
l0VvD053d
Or you know...people who want more money could obtain a new skill set or higher education like so many in history have done.
Yeah totally. Tell that to the child of meth addicts who lives in the inner city with no money, transportation, or adequate education.
A lot of people have been born into shitty situations and have gone on to become very successful. You get more by doing more. It's simple.
Yeah. Okay...
About what I expected...read up on Lori Petty, Gen Colin Powell, Isaac Brock, Jim Carrey, Oprah Winfrey, Charlize Therron...just a few/
banned20times
play stupid games, win stupid prizes
StarvingGarbage
Wanting a livable wage is stupid? Who knew?
putting yourself out of a job for one is... everyone knows that
No, it really isn't, because without a livable wage you can't, you know, LIVE. You either take the risk or you fall into crushing poverty.
so yuo CAN live with $15 and you CANT live without it. With it is crushing poverty, without it is homeless starvation.
They weren't getting the $15 in the first place. You aren't articulating your point well enough for me to know what to respond to.
I'll try though: basically they demand a livable wage. Without it they'll have to live on government assistance which I know you love.
Wuz314159
Customer: Wendy's it is!
Iwillratenudes
Except the customers are too complacent for this and Wendy's will probably follow suit shortly
Panda4hire
My local Mcdonalds just moved everyone into the back. I get my food faster and they have the same # of people working there.
youeatpiecesofshitforbreakfast
impulsespeed37
I love to point out logical errors...this is coming sooner or latter. The system never calls in and the cost will pay for itself.
carrotsoup
I like to point out spelling errors.... Later* :(
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
YOU'VE ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD
DbzFanZero
When evolution becomes political fodder. Put down swords for rifles. Put horses to pasture for autos. There will forever be something new.
Gawky
Humans need not apply
dei1c3
First they automated the fast food jobs and I did not speak out because I didn't work in fast food.
dei1c3
Then they automated the transportation jobs and I did not speak out because I was didn't work in transportation.
dei1c3
Then they automated office jobs like HR, accounting, and paralegals, and I did not speak out because I did not work in those jobs.
dei1c3
Then they automated my job and there was no one left to speak for me.
dei1c3
And before you think your job is safe: http://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/downloads/academic/The_Future_of_Employment.pdf
testevo
Those are Boss! The less people I have to talk to the better...
LoneWolfingIt
Wrong, this was an experiment they had been working on long before the wage increase
jaybizzlr
Going to work though
Loverloofah
They haven't yet, I saw ordering stations 15 years ago in Arby's. They sucked then and they suck now.
Iwillratenudes
True but wage increase pushes have been going on for a long time, not a recent trend it is just gaining more traction in the past few years.
secondbest
It's not the wages that are increasing its automation that's becoming cheaper. This cannot be stopped.
Iwillratenudes
True enough, though wage increases only speed this along. However, labor will never be 100% replaced, until AI anyway
secondbest
Not all labor will be replaced, but these people still need to live. Redistribute to pay people for creative work.
Iwillratenudes
That would be most preferable, I wonder if we could convince congress to give artistic wages, like a stipend for producing art (or similar)
Verelse
The minimum wage is too low.
BaltimoreBlackSkins
$15*
The701
The lesson is, just shut up and live with a lousy situation, because trying to improve anything will only backfire on you.
Iwillratenudes
Actually the lesson is get an education so you don't have to work minimum wage at mcdonalds
shutsman
Cause millions of people can just 'get an education and find a good paying job' it's just that simple
Verelse
Some people work at McD's while getting an education. But if you think people should just "get jobs" point them to where they are.
Iwillratenudes
When did I say "just get jobs"?
Minatex
1 education doesn't equal a job just a better chance. And 2 heaven forbid a job pay enough so you can at least pay rent.
Iwillratenudes
Well first I'll direct you to the Card & Kreuger (1999) a paper detailing (although their conclusion is wrong and doesn't follow the data) 1
Iwillratenudes
low income rent and basic needs which would actually make purchasing power higher for minimum wage employees and maybe slow the cycle to 4
Iwillratenudes
In other words no matter how much minimum wage is increased to the wage is not the problem, the purchasing power is.
JustPornStuffs
Most economists agree that min wage increases has little effect on cost since indiv have more spending power and increase Econ activity
Iwillratenudes
would be preferred because otherwise we are just in an endless cycle of wage increase price increase. This could be pushed onto primarily 3
Iwillratenudes
what happens during a minimum wage increase, prices increase more dramatically than wages, thus price ceilings (although they create a DWL)2
Iwillratenudes
periodic adjustments for general inflation.
mondeo88
These have been in France for years.
Bloodtearer
Because France has higher minimum wage and hopeless employer conditions.
FuturePerfectTense
What, black people?
mondeo88
Yeah
BrianforBrains
Or, you know. . CEOs could take a fraction less of their exorbitant income.
l0VvD053d
Or you know...people who want more money could obtain a new skill set or higher education like so many in history have done.
BrianforBrains
Yeah totally. Tell that to the child of meth addicts who lives in the inner city with no money, transportation, or adequate education.
l0VvD053d
A lot of people have been born into shitty situations and have gone on to become very successful. You get more by doing more. It's simple.
BrianforBrains
Yeah. Okay...
l0VvD053d
About what I expected...read up on Lori Petty, Gen Colin Powell, Isaac Brock, Jim Carrey, Oprah Winfrey, Charlize Therron...just a few/
banned20times
play stupid games, win stupid prizes
StarvingGarbage
Wanting a livable wage is stupid? Who knew?
banned20times
putting yourself out of a job for one is... everyone knows that
StarvingGarbage
No, it really isn't, because without a livable wage you can't, you know, LIVE. You either take the risk or you fall into crushing poverty.
StarvingGarbage
No, it really isn't, because without a livable wage you can't, you know, LIVE. You either take the risk or you fall into crushing poverty.
banned20times
so yuo CAN live with $15 and you CANT live without it. With it is crushing poverty, without it is homeless starvation.
StarvingGarbage
They weren't getting the $15 in the first place. You aren't articulating your point well enough for me to know what to respond to.
StarvingGarbage
I'll try though: basically they demand a livable wage. Without it they'll have to live on government assistance which I know you love.