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SpacemanSpiff1000
Yea cause any normal gun user said 9 "mm" rounds instead of 9 "millimeter" this is just stupid
andrews042
No, in fact, this may be the only realm where 'Muricans are fluent in the metric system.
DNIme
We have no problem using metric in the space of a decimeter. Once you get over that feet and miles just seem more natural.
GrandProtectorDark
Not really
NotVeryCashMoneyOfYou
You're not an american if you didnt know that the mm stands for millimeter
GTimgur
That's why true Americans keep it .45 and .50!
Woody2shoez
500 magnum is always nice
wraith3
This might be THE dumbest thing on imgur! EVERY American gun owner knows that. We'll measure however the hell we want!
MerkNowitzki41
Rednecks know all about that shit. I know you wanna seem clever and smart and dunk on gun owners but this is stupid.
CuttleFishOfCthulu
As a sidenote, I think a lot of these posts we're seeing this afternoon are in response to the US womens team beating England today.
manmadeReligion
Idiot anti gun memes...
Voidac
I've never heard anyone not acknowledge the mm as anything other than millimeter. Like, EVERYONE ONLY calls it by 9 millimeter.
comehomefransbrauder
The UK uses stone to measure weight. Y'all change, we'll change. No we won't just saying.
lucivjov
Do you not say things out loud? How do you say 9mm bud?
Pheehelm
Thus the metric system did not really catch on in the States, unless you count the increasing popularity of the 9mm bullet. – Dave Barry
ReilyOHanlon
And 7.62x51, 7.62x54 and 7.62x60
Raiderbeater
That’s why you use a .45 ACP!
catsandcoke
We use metric in science here
Kazooski
I own a Glock 19 with 0.354331in rounds
Onlyrepostsmakethefrontpage
Thats why god created .45 acp
lenzio
UhhhhhNick
You could call it a .380 but that’s a different round. Same diameter though
ReilyOHanlon
Length of the bullet and length of the case. Otherwise, identical.
RomanLegionary
Yes, but you’d probably want to call it a .355 (or .356/7/8) bc that’s a 9mm’s actual diameter. .38 is a hold over from old converted 1/
RomanLegionary
revolvers from percussion to cartridge and that diameter is that if the case mouth not the bullet. Almost .38s are actually 9mm calibre 2/2
BurntRamen
You should tell them what the 5.56 they loaded their AR-15s with stands for.
GeneralGinger531
I mean, our larger sodas are also measured in liters, our science is in Celcius, a lot of our maps even have km on them. Personally, I find
GeneralGinger531
When I said science is in Celcius, I realize not I just meant metric in general. Temperature is the first thing I thought of when measuring
GeneralGinger531
the universe.
GeneralGinger531
meters clunky when used for personal use, as humans are between meters. Average height for men is 1.7526 meters, or 5 foot 9 in.
GeneralGinger531
4'10 is 1.47 and 6'4 is 1.9. The height difference is remarkable, but still both fall under the range between 1 and 2.
GeneralGinger531
I would also like to point out that time nor degrees of a circle are metric compatible. You can cut a circle into 100ths and use a decimal.
Friday0089
When you tell a non-American they're wrong 'cause.. 'Merica! *freedom intensifies*
kakivara
But nobody says "nine em em", they say "nine millimeter." Yer tellin' me millimeter stands for millimeter?
ThisGuyHere
Exactly. I feel this was made by someone who doesn't know how to refer to calibers other than "nine" "forty five" and so on.
notafan89
ReplyingToTopCommentsIsHowIGetPeopleToReadMyComments
It would just be weird talking about your "0.354331 inch"...
TommyRottn
Well Bless Their Heart
BigTittyJesus
My thoughts exactly.
Ryebread91
Who’d of thought?!
astrielx
Have. Not of.
RenegadeSci
People wanted to ban Arabic numerals in school because they didn't know 1-9, etc, are Arabic numerals.
Mikstrix
9mil
KellyofRose
Honey, some of them aren't going to make the connection. There's always someone.
bigfatpanda89
Bless their hearts...
Lucidnumber9
Gg
nonCanadianGoose
9 mil at the shortest
Jennandjuice17
Really? Cause I have a “9”.
browncheez
N
nonCanadianGoose
That’s weird. I just realized you can call a gun a “9” but it’s awkward to refer to bullets that way.
demolitionlover09
9 millillillimeter at the longest.
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kakivara
When I read that comment I said "millimeter" in my head. My dad has a Remington one, we've said that a lot. Or just "seven mag."
HyunJ00n
Don't let common sense get in the way of the "muricans are stoopid" circlejerk bruh
iHateNicolasCage
LightingSquirrel
I mean americans take the piss out of everyone else why is it not fair that others would do it back bruh
rauche
I have to say, the amount of shit talking toward America outweighs the reverse by a fuckload.
boogablend
Lol errybody be hating on Americans
kakivara
You don't need to take my piss, if you asked nicely I'll just give it to you.
kakivara
If you're "taking the piss," are you British? Because the British have no cause to make fun of the units anyone else uses.
LightingSquirrel
Units?
NoodleKeeper
of measurement* (I'm assuming)
iamthemadz
Plus, the world isn't as free of imperial measurements as Europe tries to convince everyone.
bippityboppitybuttsex
*5.56mm use an American round if you are going to make this joke.
Ninjainslippers
But 5.56 is a NATO round...
bippityboppitybuttsex
M193 is a US round, M855 is the FNH, NATO round... they are substantially different (one sucks).
dommen
If you insist on that already you should call the 5.56mm round .226 remington due to historical reasons
RicksterMax
.223.
bippityboppitybuttsex
... the best example is the Ruger Mini14 which is chambered in 223, but a lot of people fire 5.56 out of it, life expectancy will be lower.
bippityboppitybuttsex
We do not. 223 Remington is the parent of 5.56, 5.56 is 8k higher psi chamber pressure than 223 (don't fire a lot of 5.56 in a 223 gun)...
echonite
My AR can safely shoot both. The barrel is designed for 5.56.
dommen
ah good to know. thought it was comparable at least regarding the dimensions
bippityboppitybuttsex
... wear out faster.
bippityboppitybuttsex
case dimensions are identical... 5.56/223 will chamber in each other perfectly... lower pressure of 223 could cause cycling issues;...
bippityboppitybuttsex
... higher pressure of 5.56 will damage the gun after awhile (5.56 is still within the proof pressure of 223, so it won't explode, just...
CuttleFishOfCthulu
We're taught metric in grade school, Jeeves.
boogablend
If you are a stem major you know metric like the devil knows Jersey
MetaSomma
This^^
kanoPositivityMaker
Yea Jeeves! Who asked you?
LizardEnterprises
That varies state by state, actually.
floriandg
Not sure if you are making a school shooting joke or actually learned it
ChoovaMonster
It's taught in elementary school (10ish years old) then in all science classes in high school (15+ years old).
amoeba15
Actually learned it and used it frequently in schools. Went to school in four states and all taught metric, even Alabama.
comehomefransbrauder
Even in Greenbow, alaBAMA??
sophware
We all learn it. Then, we learn to be defensive about it.
inugod
what school?
Thanshin
At the junior gun range, you mean.
MetaSomma
It's funny how virtually everyone I know knows metric yet this is a joke. We just hate having to switch from one to the other.
CuttleFishOfCthulu
Its mostly people not from our country that think we're all a bunch of morons.
FahKinGai
Yeah I wonder why...
LP1988
Having experienced your schools first hand, you really are but it's not really your fault, damn high school is a soul crushing institution.
Lexion86
I want to disagree with you on the moron part, but yeah, high school is generally a waste of four years.
hugyourdogs
Tween and teen daycare, community colleges and state schools have to maintain remedial classes just to let us catch back up. :(
capughe
No one really thinks you're stupid for that, just contrary and outdated. Mostly when people ask "what is that in freedom units?" But I'm 1/
Corin
I mean, we don't do it to be contrary. We're an incredibly large and populous country. It'd cost so much in infrastructure to switch now.
CuttleFishOfCthulu
"Freedom units" is a term used in memes. Recently. Most of us who payed attention in school know metric. We just dont use it long distance >
CuttleFishOfCthulu
< measurements. Imagine someone not from your country insisting they know everything about it. Theyd probably sound like an ass, right?
MetaSomma
Fuck, everyone owns a metric socket set, and everyone knows what 10mm looks like because it's always missing
capughe
Never really thinking negatively, just get confused about temp in F and distance in miles. Canadian so inches & feet are common to me 2/2
foundtheincel
yeah i live in canada now and imperial is everywhere - even in my last two workplaces, which were part of enormous industries.
Urmomsdirtyfriend
1 mile = 5280 feet and 22'C is 71'F which is around room temp
capughe
Well sometimes negatively but not seriously thinking anyone deserves my negative thoughts. XD
1fella
The cost for all of our road signs, plus all the work to replace them would be a lot.
JasonMaggini
Thing is by the 80s, they had already started putting dual mi/km road signs up. Then turned around and undid all that.
MetaSomma
And rewrite the entire education system, all computer systems, the tax system, etc. No big deal.
redwesley
The tax system? Do you use imperial units of money or something?
MetaSomma
Yes, one imperial dollar is .78 metric dollars. In all seriousness, some taxable assets are measured by weight/volume
3141593653589793
If you know metric, how come you stick with that crazy ass system that you use?
kneeknow8
Depends on the job/profession
KalteKartoffeln
May be hard to believe but we're capable of using two systems. It's just more comfortable to use imperial
BrisketSandwich24
What a silly question. You act as if the average person has some sort of control over what happens in their country.
CuttleFishOfCthulu
So, to get this straight; we know two systems, but use only one for long distance. You cant comprehend using both, so WE'RE the dumb-dumbs?
ericruff
We use metric! How many yards long is a US football field between endzones? 100 yards! Can’t get much more metric than that.
NotWelcomehere
We use both, just not on road signs.
kneeknow8
You know damn well what would happen when we change our speed limit signs from 65 mph to 100 kph.
mongolandia
3141592
3141593653589793
Did you calculate that in metric or imperial? :D
BrisketSandwich24
But Pi literally is 3.14159265. so I don't get the downvotes. I'll assume your U/N is wrong because someone beat you to it. But he's still
BrisketSandwich24
Correct
3141593653589793
It is wrong because im not perfect as pie. I tried to fix the downvotes.
comehomefransbrauder
Thank you! Fuck sake. Leave us alone. Meanwhile, I'm 5'8" . Zero fucks how tall that is in metric. Lol
Shardinian
Canadian here - I'm 5'5", and don't give a fuck how tall that is in metric. We all measure ourselves in feet and inches, so...
The1stBellicose
1.77 metres. Why are you saying "thank you" for acknowledging that you learn this in school yet you can't do the conversion?
nitroghost
wrong. 1.73~ m
comehomefransbrauder
Oh, I (we) can do the conversion. But, I (we) give zero fucks about doing the conversion, though. Maybe you missed that.
toolazytothinkaboutaname
And they use stones in weight, not kilogram
The1stBellicose
Who is "they?" Canada uses metric and uses kgs/lbs not stones.
MetaSomma
Stone is a uniquely UK thing, I believe.
BrisketSandwich24
Neither the US not Canada measure weight in stones
theyar
177cm. No one uses meters for their height.
The1stBellicose
nitroghost
wrong. 173~ cm
The1stBellicose
Show me where they list them in cm: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls008376682/
eliteIMP
https://m.imdb.com/list/ls063167165/ it all depends on what you search for ;)
Thanshin
It's under 6', so either you're a woman, or it doesn't matter.
comehomefransbrauder
Lol yes. I am a chick on the tall side.
Roundaboutssuck
Fuck metric the 10mm socket is cursed you can never find one!
ReilyOHanlon
Use a 3/8. I'm American. i can work in fractional inch, decimal inch and metric and usually make the conversions in my head.
Roundaboutssuck
I am American and it is a common joke the 10mm is always missing.
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
That's because 10mm is 1cm.
d3jake
I mean... AR15's shoot 5.56, not 9mm.
CompletelyUniqueUsername
357 AR MAX. 9MM AR15 Round... 358 YETI 9mm ar10 round...
RicksterMax
And .223, and lot's of 30 cal. It's a platform, not a specific chamber. M4, now that is specifically 5.56 NATO.
d3jake
The AR15 typically refers to 5.56/.223. AR9/AR10, etc. refer to differently chambered rifles.
RomanLegionary
Some ARs do shoot 9mm. Not many and most don’t really count as AR-15 (different firing mechanism) but some do.
Sh4d0wM4nt1s
Oh, really?
RomanLegionary
The AR-15 platform has been chambered in nearly every conceivable cartridge, from .22lr to (sort of) .50 bmg
d3jake
Yeap, I agree. The AR platform fires many different rounds. Except the meme mentions 9mm, which the AR15 doesn't shoot.
RomanLegionary
It’s arguable what constitutes an AR-15: as the “AR” platform is more appropriately the AR-15 platform due to it not being as related 1/
RomanLegionary
to, or at least the same size as, other ARs like the AR-10 or AR-18. 2/2
d3jake
Sure, it's been used to refer to different rifles. Except the AR-15 itself is a .223 Remington as developed by Eugene Stoner.
RomanLegionary
It depends on your definition of AR-15; I would count anything with the same operating system and having standard size part comparability
mtndewandmarlboros
They are definitely AR's chambered in 9mm. https://palmettostatearmory.com/ks-47-ar-45-ar-9/ar-9/ar-9-complete-firearms.html
mtndewandmarlboros
There* damn talk-to-text
d3jake
I never said the AR isn't used for different rounds. I'm saying the AR15 is specifically for the .223
Foxtrot0245
We know and use the metric system except for temp, bc a scale from water freezing to boiling doesn't help a human plan their day.
grumpy173
I definitely have to completely change my wardrobe if the temp goes from 45F to 47F.
Geraint782
To remember Celsius temps, i was taught "30 hot, 20 nice, 10 cold, 0 ice."
Sinus23
Oh it does. Because 10°C and 12°C don't make enough of a difference to make any change to any plans. 45°C or 47°C still too warm either way.
Foxtrot0245
Not even joking, I don't understand that. But I know that below 55° F is jacket weather, above 75 is shorts, between is jeans and t shirt.
Ber4nger10
You're just used to the scale. For me under 15c is jacket weather, over 20c is shorts. Oh and 0c and below WATER CAN FREEZE. You know, snow.
Ber4nger10
0c and below means ice and snow. How exactly does that NOT help you plan your day?
Ninjainslippers
The average American doesn't know and use metric except mechanics and scientists. But yes, Fahrenheit is better for weather reports.
Foxtrot0245
But, yes, I am a mechanic, so I probably do over estimate others' ability and affinity to work with metric tools.
Foxtrot0245
I'm pretty sure every medication I've ever taken was prescribed in mg, I ran 5k's in high school, etc
Ninjainslippers
I don't think many Americans could tell you what a gram looks like unless they sell drugs.
Ninjainslippers
I'll give you the 5k but you know who made the dosages? Scientists.
Foxtrot0245
Fair point, lol
Ulthirm
We learned metric in elementary here, its just not worth using it in traditional conversation since most people know Imperial.
Ulthirm
The US is slowly becoming more metric though it doesn't help constantly mocking Americans for it. Makes it us vs them and you result in
ReilyOHanlon
I worked as a die-maker. In the machine trades you have to be adept with all of them AND several different ISO standards. Always learning.
Ulthirm
People getting very into their group for no reason than to say f you to the opponent
Ulthirm
Here's a question, how many of you actually use deci and deka meters? Why is that a thing i had to learn
nonCanadianGoose
You’d be surprised how adept Americans are at metric when you apply it to guns.
JustinSane6
*Drugs
SuperTacticalSandwich
As an American, I can't understand for the life of me why we still use imperial. It's inferior in every way. Thanks, britain
Jaynecobb7
yer goddam right.
CreepyPhlox
Guns and drugs.
wolfpreist
5.56, 7.62, 7MM,
SlackerTactical
Don't worry. We still use feet per second for muzzle velocity
luigimoneybags3000
It's the equivelant of Kevin Malone knowing math only when pies are involved
dduncan55330
And tools
geosynthetic
We're just really bad at meters, kilometers, units of mass, and Celsius. But if it's a unit regularly used for guns or alcohol, we got it.
Matthew1130so
Shhhhh.
MoveAsideMidoYouLittleShit
It’s like Kevin’s math with pie
lawideas
And drugs.
SMopfamn
Or computer hardware. Like size of case fans or even celsius temps for thermals.
Thelema
But not screen size, because reasons.
MayaMacabre
Or weed.
Mondvogel
this. op really thinks gun folks don't know this?
doihearanamen
Boom. Headshot.
thatsnotaknife
Truth
dorkowastaken
And car engines...
Woody2shoez
we still like our cubic inches
Donttouchthatwithoutgloves
We're are fine at knowing what they are. Most of us are just bad at converting them to freedom units.
miles4pints
Why that’s how I learnt metiricacations
ipheltabubi
Yeah, Asians use metric too right?
Crawmak
Literally the only part of imperial I'm unwilling to part with is Fahrenheit. I'm just fond of it. It's good for cooking and weather.
Nantes
Celsius: water freezes at 0, boils at 100. Fahrenheit: water freezes at 32, boils at 212. Veeery human indeed!
Crawmak
Fahrenheit: Human comfort is centralized between around 50 degrees.
HiddenSanity
I mean, so is Celsius?
ImpliedConsent
Generally it is easier/more accurate to cook in F. And it is easier to distinguish living temperatures in whole units in F.
Crawmak
The smaller numbers for precision make it nicer imo.
10tacles
For general use it is accurate enough, for precision use there are subunits. mm is millimeters, you are basically using meter to measure
10tacles
Small things. Same thing with nanometer, picometer or in the opposite side of the scale kilometer. So for everyday usage °C is accurate
Ber4nger10
There's this new thing called a decimal point...
Dynme
But then I could just add a decimal point to a Fahrenheit number and still be more precise than the same number of decimals in Celsius.
TheNeub
And drugs
6Oh4
Lol
StankyPankySammich
Yes like I know which pew-pews take 7.62x39 mm and which take 5.56x45 mm.
MaelinStarpyre
5.56 is usually AR and 7.62 is usually AK
MaelinStarpyre
But I have an AR chambered in 7.62 cause it's cheap ammo
TommyRottn
Yeah but do you have an AR chambered in 7.62 NATO?
StankyPankySammich
Super cheap ammo is available. Just cleaning your rifle IMMEDIATELY after using it.
GozerDerZerstorer
And soft drinks (2 liter)
Amwaysalesdept
Had a metrology professor that asked how many grams in an ounce on the first day- whoever answered he said "found the drug dealer"
buttondick
In culinary arts we were going over measurements. Teacher said there are 28.3g/oz. One kid bitched about how he was getting ripped off.
viila
That's harsh. Could've been a buyer.
Dorsk84
5.56(AR), 7.62(M-14, M134), 20mm(Vulcan), 30mm (BRRRRTTTT), 105mm, 120mm (Abrams) 155mm
sciencebasedlifeform
Because...NATO...
jakaii
you forgot 12.7mm is .50 cal
clb1016
Yet I have had people who don't believe me when I say their 5.56 AR platform rifle is a .22 cal.... They know 5.56 =.223 but not .223 = ~.22
RicksterMax
.308, .223 and use Google for the rest. Blame it on the US adopting NATO ammo despite saving the free world, twice.
Gover57
USA showed up 2 years late both WW1 and WW2, war had already started turning in favour of the Allies. Joining just shortened the timespans.
koops
Twice?
Gover57
I'm guessing they don't teach actual history in the US either. just whatever feeds more into their national patriotism
Regflex
No they do, AP European history, AP World history, AP government & politics & AP American history are all offered courses. 1/2
BigBeeOhBee
Twice equals 2 in freedom units
koops
That would be metric where the number matches the term. Two in freedom would be 6/32th’s of a dead kings stretched foreskin.
Slimpickins42
Ironically, both of those calibers' NATO adoption came at the insistence of the US military. You're thinking of 9mm NATO
ceestand
Ironically, 7.62x51 and .308 are NOT interchangeable. Same for .223/5.56
AmericanAdvocate
Not true. 7.62×51 and .308 are identical. 5.56 and .223 have different pressures but .223 can be fired from a 5.56 rifle. But not vice versa
ceestand
Even a simple web search provides correct info: https://www.ammoland.com/2017/06/7-62-nato-vs-308-winchester-ammo-whats-the-difference
LP1988
*jumping over and beating an almost downed opponent in the very last part of the fight twice.
largemouthbass
Why mangle history like this?
FurFetishist
*Sending fresh reinforcements to tired battlelines to make the final push and win both wars. Not to mention fighting on two fronts in one.
Schrenk212
Don't forget rebuilding Europe
DeDeMegaDooDoo
Almost all of engineering degree was taught in metric. Now that I’m working, it’s kinda hard to do the same work in freedom units.
RicksterMax
It takes an entire page to explain what slug is. Mass and weight are the only problem I have with imperial measure.
Keairan
Fuck the slug, and fuck the foot-lb.
k4FoodSmasher
Freedom doesn’t come easy. And it isn’t free.
GenitalWars
+1, perfect.
pookieeatworld
Yeah I've got a machine that uses inches for positioning but the program is in mm, so we just went through and divided everything by 25.4
BurntRamen
What does the machine produce?
pookieeatworld
It's an end mill that we use to put angles on spline teeth on gears so they shift easily. Some places call them dog teeth...
BurntRamen
Ahhh, that makes sense. Just making sure you weren't talking about precision parts for commercial airliners.
mymothertoldmetopick
Numbers divided by 25.4
pookieeatworld
Among other things, yes...
CuttleFishOfCthulu
Or tools. Or measuring distance....
AlphaKenneyBody
God damn 10mm wrench/socket
nonCanadianGoose
Anyone who does any drug....
romicra88
Currency.
nonCanadianGoose
Except we get lost at 10mm
vipe650r
Only because it’s way more expensive per round.
iamzcr99
My grandfather still has a 10mm socket
onlyhereforthehotfuzzreferences
I always thought the empty spot for the 10 was just a placeholder for when you find one in the wilderness
legofham
We all do mate, we all do
ApplesdaKitty
Amazon prime needs to add periodic10mm subscription to various sockets.
fartbiscuit
What is that? Never heard of it
VitaminJay
Or any actual science...
reineseele
Magnets?
Psionickitten
It's almost like some Americans even have brains and can understand more than one measuring system.
VitaminJay
Steven054
It's almost like every school teaches both in middle school and high school, and in college (assuming you don't take a liberal arts major).
Beezlebubble
Thanks science, engineering, and kerbal space program
BionicToad
I use the metric system for work, but I still have to convert it to feet to truly appreciate the size of a design or the weight
Aldante92
A lot of us understand it, it uses a 10-based system after all. But we're so used to imperial that we have trouble visualizing metric.
Aldante92
I can roughly picture how long a yard is, but if it weren't for the fact that I know a meter is a yard and 3 inches I couldn't visualize one
Cap808
Except that one time we blew up a mars rover because one team was doing everything in imperial and the other in metric. Not our finest hour.
VitaminJay
After that kerfuffle the scientific community in the US went to Metric.
Cap808
Yeah that was quite the kerfuffle. Then again we used a SKY CRANE TO DROP A ROVER FROM LIKE 60 FEET UP. That was so cool.
LadiesInboxMeYourInsecurities
Measuring distance? I don't know anyone over here in the states that could tell you roughly how far a km is.
IllicitEloquence
.62 miles
IllicitEloquence
Also why our marathons are better, fuck your system 'Merica
LadiesInboxMeYourInsecurities
No one uses metric for distance here though, that's the point.
Pauly79
I’d agree with that. We’re good at feet, yards or miles. KM means nothing to a lot of us Americans.
Innoculo
1,000 meters
LadiesInboxMeYourInsecurities
I feel it's fairly obvious the intent was judging physical distance not just spitting out the meter or foot equivalent.
wastedpoptart
Most people are terrible at eyeballing miles as well. “A mile up the road” is either 2 blocks or 5 states over.
LadiesInboxMeYourInsecurities
But they still use miles. I know of no one that uses metric for distance outside of marathons.
Ben92
Marathons at 26.2 miles who knows that in km
Woody2shoez
It’s 1000 meters duh. So I would say a little over 3000 feet.
LadiesInboxMeYourInsecurities
3300 feet is closer. But still. Most people here don't go by metric for distance.
paragraph
True, but most people know there's 1,000 meters in a km and most people approximate 3 feet to the meter because it's close to a yard.