What fresh hell is this?

Feb 8, 2022 3:05 PM

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“The influential rightwing lobby group the American Legislative Exchange Council (Alec) is driving a surge in new state laws to block boycotts of the oil industry. The group’s strategy, which aims to protect large oil firms and other conservative-friendly industries, is modelled on legislation to punish divestment from Israel.

Since the beginning of the year, state legislatures in West Virginia, Oklahoma and Indiana have introduced a version of a law drafted by Alec, called the Energy Discrimination Elimination Act, to shield big oil from share selloffs and other measures intended to protest the fossil fuel industry’s role in the climate crisis. A dozen other states have publicly supported the intent of the legislation.

Texas has already begun compiling a list of companies to target for refusing to do business with the oil industry after the state passed a version of the law last year. Top of the list is the world’s largest asset manager, BlackRock.”

“In January, Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick asked the state comptroller to put BlackRock, which manages an estimated $10 trillion worth of assets, at the top of its list of blacklisted companies because he said its pledge to work toward decarbonising the energy sector “will destroy the oil and gas industry and destabilize the economy worldwide”.

TL;DR A right wing lobbying group known as ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council) is pushing to have laws, notably the ENERGY DISCRIMINATION ELIMINATION ACT, passed in U.S. states to block companies from boycotting the oil industry because of their effects on climate change.

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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/08/rightwing-lobby-alec-blacklist-companies-boycott-oil-industry
https://web.archive.org/web/20211204022222/https://www.alec.org/model-policy/energy-discrimination-elimination-act-2/

Well someone has to look out for the little guys and protect the oil industry against those evil people trying to protect the planet.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Hey I need a captain, can someone dumb down for me what the block would be/do? Blocked from what?

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The "but my freedums!" crowd are awful keen to curtail business' freedom to not support the oil industry...

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Is this the "cancel culture" I keep hearing about?

4 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 1

That's a pretty fucking visible hand, and it's sure not respecting the free market.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Evil is winning people. You need to vote out Republicans or you are going to have a fascist dirty planet where you cannot dissent.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Yeah, we know DJ. We're trying.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

"shield big oil from share selloffs" - Not even the owners can choose not to own those companies anymore

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

What about Free Market and Free Speech?

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Oh hell, if Texas wants to go to war with Blackrock, that's... Hooo, that's gonna be fun to watch.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ahhh yes the American right ! Finding new and inventive ways to be counter productive and and working against their own self interests.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"This is a Free Market! If you don't like it, vote with your dollars!" to "It's now illegal to not buy our product" real fast.

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Gov abbott, LtG patrick and AG paxton are all up at midterm. Vote these worthless fucks out with me 11/8/22, Texans. #morebluein22

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Unfortunately solar is not the answer right now. Nuclear js our best bet, but the infrastructure is decades away.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

ALEC = Legion of Doom

4 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

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4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

In Oklahoma they have deals with the gas companies that make you pay a $1500 fee if you leave and go solar. Crooked fucks.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I think I would be sick to my stomach if I went to work to do evil shit like that all day. How, as a living human, are they okay with that?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The fact that corporations can draft laws is an absolutely breathtaking act of government corruption

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Oil, Oil, Über Alles!

4 years ago | Likes 192 Dislikes 2

Damn it. I dont remember all the words to the song to make witty addition to your parody song. Let's just pretend I did. No? Damn.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

My German father sang Zwei Kartoffel und dass ist alles! Two potatoes and that is all. Reference to shortages during the war.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Capitalize your acronyms please (ALEC)

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

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4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Alec is not a "lobbying group"; they write legislation, give it to jr state lawmakers & get it passed. And then go to Congress & argue to

4 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

Make it federal because "x states already have it." https://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/What_is_ALEC%3F

4 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

I’m disappointed but not shocked, considering Texas is a petrostate.

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I mean they already have laws about boycotting Israel

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Right to jail!

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

*Every oil CEO has knowingly and systematically lied about climate change for forty years.

4 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

Seems more like 50 yrs to me (since the first Earth Day) that they've known they need to transition.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Will they share their list of companies they hate? Because I might be more interested in shopping there

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Yes, they will have to make these lists public so state agencies know who they can't contract with, that's the whole idea.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sorry, must’ve forgotten my /s… they’ll be public so the red hat sheep can be told where not go as well

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The fossil fuel industry is an enemy of all humanity, and either they go down kicking and screaming or they take us all with them.

4 years ago | Likes 529 Dislikes 3

Why not both

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Then go upstairs and give your mom the keys to her minivan back

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I vote kicking and screaming

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They already have *gestures vaguely at everything*

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And the industry has so many adamant but ignorant defenders.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

It's most likely both. Kicking and screaming and dragging us all down with them.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Yup, I don't care if it pays the bills, but if you work for them, you are just as complicit as the CEOs. Same with the military contractors.

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that's why i do fiber optics! I give people porn and memes, i can sleep at night. Despite all the waste in this industry also.. can't win.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Idk, a lot of us work for wretched corporations. It's hard to find a company with any ethics. Don't make the perfect the enemy of the good.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I don’t blame workers surviving however they can in this fucked system, but there’s a level where you’re making decisions. Fuck those guys.

4 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Welcome to the tactics they used to kill nuclear energy, everyone else.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This is why as an environmental science student I came to the conclusion that capitalism will be the downfall.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

They know their time is coming.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

If it could come a little faster that’d be swell.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Agreed, we're already about 30 years late

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

“1970” - my brain. “1992” - a meaner, more accurate part of my brain.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Oh god

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Given how far along we are wrt climate crisis, and how fast and drastically we need to change, I'd say both will happen concurrently.

4 years ago | Likes 77 Dislikes 1

I’d say we’re fucked as a species, but that’s just my opinion

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

We probably are, but we have no choice but to try our best to stave off the worst, imo. If not for us, then for all other life on Earth.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Other life will survive, although many species will go extinct. Humanity as a whole will survive. But there will be unimaginable suffering.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I’m America freedom of speech ends when you use your wallet to protest. Free markets my ass.

4 years ago | Likes 83 Dislikes 1

*in

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm also American and you're take is wrong. Boycotts are legal and protected, how you spend your money IS freedom of expression.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I think the point of this article is that they are making it illegal.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

They're not making it illegal, they're saying the state won't do business with you if you boycott someone else, a key distinction.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Sounds like discrimination involving the allocation of government funds by using laws that violate first amendment rights.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It might sound like that, but it isn't. It's fine if you think it's bad and shouldn't happen, but it's not unconstitutional.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sounds like a pretty cut and dry violation of the First Amendment.

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No you see in america you don't have free speech if you criticize the money or Israel.

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States can limit who they contract with. That's the basis of both boycott Israel and disadvantaged business preference.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Yeah, they wanted money to be free speech so corporations can have no limits, then punish corporations for using that $ how they want.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

“Money is free speech! Use it to enrich yourselves!…. No, not like that!!”

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Too bad the Supreme Court is supermajority fascist for the next decade at least

4 years ago | Likes 103 Dislikes 3

Sounds like yall need some dead judges

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Anyone know how to get in touch with Motherfucker Jones?

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

People just don't understand how much the Federalist Fuckoffs won under Trump. Their precedents will have centuries of influence.

4 years ago | Likes 53 Dislikes 2

Probably not, because their rulings will accelerate the climate crisis and kill us all off in a shorter time frame.

4 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 0

Glass the planet to own the libs. That’s actually pretty consistent with like… every fkn science fiction story ever written. Sad

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It doesn't seem cut and dry to me because I don't see how it is that at all. Dastardly, sure, but not 1A violating at all.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 17

So you don't think your 1A rights would be violated if the government told you you can only shop at, say, Walmart and never Winn Dixie?

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

That scenario has very little to do with the 1A, and even less to do with whats being discussed in this article.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 9

the 1 a includes freedom of association not just speech. The Gov't can't tell you what you are and are not allowed to boycott

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

The government can decide if it wants to do business with someone or not. That doesn't violate 1A

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Man the upvote downvote equation here is troubling. Y'all just like to be outraged, but don't even know what you're mad about.

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