May 26, 2020 9:31 AM
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AlwaysDownVote
This has been reposted so many times, she prob 90 yrs old by now
Queuellioklif
jesusisherelookbusy
v
LetMeinNow
Nice!
Crooki
Can she do the halo song tho..?
Iwasoutedbyatroll
Thanks for the religious experience
ilsalta
I love that smile. That was a “Damn that was awesome.” smile.
grizzy86
This is way too short a clip, more please
https://youtu.be/ZPEBYXrfVQw
MyHouseOnMars
Her singing is beautiful.
sgtxsarge
I can smell the incense
carriedeservedbetter
Chills
WillemHellfire
My blood pressure is normal now.
shaftofbread
"You work at car phone warehouse, and you just did that? I was not expecting that!"
quinnmann
This isn’t the Halo song! Wth??
joers
A perfect 5/7
EzraFell
That's the most beautiful thing I've seen and heard today. Thank you.
i2ocker89
I know wtf and cuts off right when I'm into it
Imademyselfsquirtle
They making babies atm.
CJCaruso
https://youtu.be/IlNBnzyiomU
Thank you ?
Judoka12
Do free Bird
eazfb
I thought it was Sasha Grey until I saw the youtube link posted....
stinkbeaner
Is there a full video of this?
EirikurDC
Check out Malinda’s YouTube channel. She posted the other two videos shot in that building
kc2syk
https://youtu.be/8DRyrKPFRgo
DigiT00l
That is not the full video, she does have it on her channel though
No it has the full video and two others she hadn’t posted before in it and the backstory
I thought full video was the one she recorded later in DC
https://youtu.be/ZPEBYXrfVQw this one? This is in a different place. The post is in a church in Spain.
GuardsmanMiku
pretty easy to believe how people where so religious in the past when entering a cathedral in person. Just got this aura about the place
DasDovian
I remember walking into Catholic mass as a child and thinking we were walking into a castle.
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
Catholicism: the most successful business in the world. Has owned multiple countries and nearly an entire continent.
CatilioPlaceresCannabicos
Have you read how an angel looks like according to the Bible?
or0b0ur0s
The magical acoustics of a Big-Ass Stone Room. Takes six figures' worth of audio equipment to get that effect in a studio.
Thebestusernamewasalreadytakensoihadtopickthisone
That's a better reverb than most digital pedals out there (even the pricey ones)
TheePerfectComment
Zukai25
Haha I love the ending, "Thank you, please be seated."
RequiescatInPace
I am cackling
StenYngve
Top comment talks about how we could build like that back then. This clearly shows we still can.
DumbandConfused
This is the low budget version
CrucialComma
Name checks out
Toolbone
Someone's wearing their steel toes
LightingSquirrel
I like this a lot
IWouldJustLikeToSay
This is Melinda Kathleen Reese. She has a YouTube channel you should check out!
She has 2, Translator Fails and MALINDA
Whole church video https://youtu.be/IlNBnzyiomU
probshouldntsayitbut
I never knew there was more!! Thanks!
CatsandDnD
TsunamiJohn
Don't mind me just looking at the comments on this post
Piizzle
Kirkwardo
Not a single one of them on key
rowrowyerboat
I thought they were singing Ace Ventura’s “Alrighty Then” monk chant
WristDeepInaBook
Get to homeroom. And to whoever is flushing the paper towels: that's a paddle'n
WatermelonForScale
Watching this without sound was kinda strange
majorserenity
Senddankmemeshere
I always love this haha.
Wikipedo
If something isn't filmed, did it happen?
dannne
All the girls in the girl bathroom: WTF is going on in there?!?
DaftKid
https://cdn3.whatculture.com/images/2014/03/Halo-2.jpg
FeyDecay
There is a female PoV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRG9KwvbVhk
NarratesTheDarkerStory
Honestly, while watching OP's vid, knowing it's annactual hymnal, I was still waiting for the buhbuhbuhDUHhhhh buhbuhbuhDUHHHH
Duffman26
eltrim
Seeing all those people so close together gives me anxiety under the current climate. XD
NurgleErik
That still give me the chills. Remind me of the first time I played Halo, with three friends on a 120” projector screen and my home stereo.
Green11ndys
Halo was the best when on a projector
The first and best co op experience I’ve had. Graphic, story, game play - all gets better. But that feeling will never be topped. Life peak.
GoogleFu
Malinda, here she talks about it; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DRyrKPFRgo
angry0tter
BeardedCactusJack
Thank you for sharing!
ShearWind
Doot
saysomethingcool
They build stuff like this in the medieval ages! And today people think the earth is flat. What happened?
Too be fair, most people back then believed the Earth was flat
Jasfmpgh
They had the smart people build it and the dumb people were dumb in private. Now we let the dumb people share with the whole world.
oloolooloolooloolo
dark ages will be back soon, that is what is happening.
SyrusDrake
The internet, mostly. Every town has always had a "village idiot". But today, the global population of village idiots can communicate.
ArgentXero
internet
Mxlespxles
The American educational system has been gutted over generations
ImgursLibertarian
The DOEd started in 1980.
The HEW was started in 1953. So I guess your argument is that the federal government getting involved gutted the system.
MlLKA
Build built built
OnlyAlphanumericCharactersAreAllowedYouStupidFuck
We don't have slaves any more to force them to make giant unnecessary shit.
TinyLiehon
All the mountains got flattened while carving the stones for these structures
orbitn
until at least the 1700s they called the information of a trade 'mysteries'.. I recently read all sorts of old family docs, and one dude >
got apprenticed in the 1790s and the contract said "A full set of tools, food, and to be instructed in the mysteries of cooperage"
Other family documents were less fun to stumble on.. "A bill of sale for the negro girl called helen" and the like :(
TheMostCynicalBastard
What's that law where people think old stuff is always better because the old shitty stuff breaks? Cunningham's law or something?
nch77
Survivorship bias
PotatoThunder
They thought the earth was flat then too. It doesn't really affect your ability to build a building.
CoffeeZombie
Educated people have known the Earth was round since the ancient Greeks. Flat Earthism is a modern thing.
Your face is a modern thing
Hey, now, I've been told I have a face for radio!
Proffesional1Downer
We peaked as a species. It’s all down here from here.
pupperscatdog11
I'm not a believer of evolution but I certainly see the case for de-evolution.
mrose50
Thankfully facts don't require belief. *Thumbs up* Yes I'm an asshole. If more assholes talked down to idiots the world would be better off.
You missed my point but okay.
Yeah after you said "I'm not a believer in evolution" I stopped believing in air and just passed out after that. Wanna try again?
I was trying to agree with OP. Seemed like he was saying we have taken a step backward since medieval times ie long ago we were capable of
TheAdventuresofCarltheIncompetentLabAssisstant
Scientists and engineers built a telescope to view a black hole. We're doing alright.
Etlac
An object the size of the solar system, 55 million lightyears away.
They've also detected a radiometric decay event of a single Xe-124 atom, which has a half life of 18 sextillion years.
Imalwaysready
We still have some capable people...who are increasingly losing funding as less educated masses turn on them.
BeKindToAll
That’s just in the Western world. Asia’s doing much better...
JackieTreehornProductions
Social media allowed the village idiot to find fellow idiots and build a cult of idiots. Strength and danger in numbers of unchecked idiots.
AlaSnackbar
And internet gave them the megaphone they needed to shout their stupidity.
Whatwhatsomethingbutt
We literally evolved to believe the 1st thing we hear. Many sources today and few of them experts + bad actors spreading misinfo purposely
Richter12x2
That sounds 100% true!
AllTheGoodOnesWereGone
Obviously humans could not have constructed such incredible structures so it must have been aliens.
jesting
Meritocracy was demonized by the Idiocracy and now ignorance is just as important and expertise.
amop
You’re saying feudal times were based on meritocracy? At the risk of sounding like a 37yo dennis, it’s all about class
FiendishDoctorWuTangClan
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scavenger98888
That... that is not at all true of the middle ages...
Mechame
I believe @jesting is talking about scientific discovery, and you are talking about political power.
Social, not political, and i’d say more people lacked scientific understanding then than now even considering contemporaneous deniers
The internet hands deniers the giant megaphone of salience.
MmeElspeth
Still maintain it's an ignorant statement then, that's not how the process scientific discovery works now, or really ever.
Mokelzwerg
Not sure if you‘re being ironic...
CaptainHedgeHog
You know most people in the middle ages knew the world was round right?
vangundy15
Did they still believe the Earth was the center of our solar system?
buskill
The common man probably thought of the earth as a ”round like a table rather than an apple”. Source Wikipedia.
Round? Idiots didn't even know it was actually a slightly oblate spheroid! Morons.
Are... Are you suggesting spheroids aren't round?
MASSIVESPACEMONKEY
Oblate ones? Not really round.
Silas007
You know most people in medieval times couldnt read let alone educated about the fuckin shape of earth with 0 implications on their life.
You really dont know your history do ya mate.
That's also... not true.
Based on what? I am intrigued if you have a decet source contradicting all literacy rate numbers I read in some quick internet research.
kramnelladoow
Social media/the internet gave all the village idiots the biggest megaphone in history, unfortunately.
Markamanic
IIRC some dude in Egypt figured out the earth's curvature by measuring the shadows on obelisks placed different distances from the equator.
Around about 3000 BCE
StoicOptimist
Back then it was punishable by ex-communication or worse.. today we lol at it online 8)
Dukenewcmb
The cult of ignorance has a louder voice but smaller numbers.
DVSBSTrD
Depending on when this church was built, the might also have thought the earth was flat.
RedKale
Well. People who build these believed in God.
cjandstuff
So did the father of modern genetics and the guy who proposed the Big Bang theory.
Gregor Mendel and Chuck Lorre for those who want to save a google.
And if you did google or know who the three people involved are with this joke, you're welcome.
That doesn’t matter really. There are scientists who believe in god. But people who built these believed the earth was flat!
Baard
People of the middle ages, even religious, believed that the earth was round, the idea of the flat earth became popular in the 1800s
ccman87
I'll bet the same percentage of people believed the world is flat in both times (i.e. a really small number but not 0)
Grifter9000
The workers maybe, but not the architects. Educated people have known the earth was curved since the classical period.
batcavedweller
It's a common misconception that Earth was believed to be flat in the Middle Ages.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth
Khatvogel
It's easier to believe in a higher power if your planet is the centre of the universe. They didn't think the earth was flat though
SeeYaLaterMethamphetaGator
wasn't the curvature of the earth discovered in ancient Egypt, then later proven again in ancient Greece?
asm80dfa8sdfj
It was proven not-flat by many cultures. The last being China in 17th century. But even in science driven countries many didn't believe.
i think we should probably remember that the uneducated were certainly not the ones designing masterpieces.
Yes. Learned people haven't thought the world was flat for 3,000 years now. Peasants maybe, but not many with educations (like engineers).
Here's a world map from 1893 making fun of "globe theory" as it was called. https://imgur.com/NXTLwMt
Man, both the cartoon on the far right and the plea for money in the bottom right corner are gold, Jerry. Gold!
You are absolutely correct. They calculated the circumference to be 40,000 Km (in modern units). The actual circumference is 40,075 Km.
Dontbelieveeverythingyouread2718
Oh you guys are going to give facts. People are trying to make a point, facts don't come into it.
tdammers
Or pretended to.
BaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaBATMAN
Isaac Newton himself was a devout Christian. He was convinced he proved the existence of God when proving that due to gravitational pull,
Newton didn't build churches though.
planets and stars should be pulling each other together but they don't.
Hw wrote 10 times as much on theology than he did on math, physics and science in general.
Honorius77
Democratization of information and power is a double edged sword. The dark side of it is idiots today can have a powerful voice.
She doesn't look THAT old...
TanithRosenbaum
There were dumb people back then too, and there's people who build smartphones and quantum computers today. Not really much changed. The>>
>>only thing that has changed is that in the past, dumb people had no Facebook to give them an audience outside cousin Fred and aunt Millie
Cruxador
Unironically the fault of the YouTube algorithm.
Although related dumbfuckery like anti-vaccination can be attributed to facebook
And there's plenty of blame to lay at the feet of conventional media as well.
mikereClicker
My working theory is that dumb people lack impulse control. This leads to them breeding more.
And ignoring the centuries of class disparity that encourages lack of education/birth control/assistance for lower classes, intentionally.
Idiocracy?
EmeraldMoreLikeUninstall
You should watch this 2006 documentary about it. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/
No you really shouldnt.
TheS4ndm4n
Terry crews would be a massive improvement.
welcometothedanktrix
In all fairness tho- Terry Crews would be a massive improvement to most things
csullivan
hijindc
I don't understand
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world
What a difference a thousand trips around the sun can make...
Wow, that's...basically 100% inaccurate.
Ladet
We should couple that map with relative wealth of a nation, or standard of living
thebitterswed
I dont know Dubai is pretty wealthy so is Turkey and iran still lots of religious bs
christooss
Missing yellow America.
DickPicEnthusiast
America used to be Red, White and Blue. But now it's just orange.
LychFinderGeneral
But...the OP literally shows incredible medieval science in acoustic engineering.
seuratparrot
Getting your central library burned in a abrahamic religion-off will definitely do that.
TemetNosce000
Well put
buttcreambandit
The library of Alexandria? That burned from a turf war after Alexander’s death. Fire started in docks on purpose to clear the way for 1/2
More ships to dock and lend support, it spread to the city and burned a shitload of it down including the library
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
Depending on when it was built, the people who built it may have all believed the Earth was flat.
Goodburrito
To be fair, they thought the earth was flat too....
That’s true. Don’t know why you’re being downvoted.
People have known the earth was round for quite a long time. At this time they thought the earth was the center of the universe
You‘re right... whoops
Yeah guess what. It is rumored some people know the world is round even today. That argument has no merit.
My argument is that the idea that the world is round has been around since antiquity.
GodEmperorOfImgur
Thing is, even you can perform experiments to verify that the earth is round. I dare you to verify it's flat (IE, not anecdotal). :P
People do not think the earth is flat. A very tiny minority think that.
luigo90
NO ONE should believe that the earth is flat to begin with ..
There are stupid people everywhere, I’m not surprised some believe it.
pritolus
The random people in the street started "doing their own research" instead of listening to the established experts
greyspears
You know nobody really believes the earth is flat they are trolling.
I know people who do, in fact, really believe the earth is flat. It's insane.
This is in America iirc, the woman is American at least
Oh,it was in Spain
She later made a similar video in the Washington cathedral though
"Anywhere on Earth an American stands is, at that moment, a part of America." - Quote I made up and attributed to Teddy Roosevelt
Like I said she later did a similar video in Washington, I forgot she did 2 of those, and remembered she recorded one in Washington cathedra
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
For almost 1000 years, the Catholic and Orthodox churches were the safekeepers of knowledge in Europe and Asia Minor and they showed it.
Sfingks
The song is an example of the wrong they did. Its a call to european religious extremists to wage a holy war on the Persian empire.
ashcans
Then everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked.
GeneralRaven
Only the Pope master of all Christian elements could save them.
GrumpyOldMillennial
.....literally the pope is the cause of the Great Schism. He couldn't save them because the caused the war in the first place.
Does this mean the Pope is fire nation?!
Or maybe a water bender cuz of baptisms? And water to wine sounds very much like water bender so maybe Jesus was water tribe?!
Rignak
Safekeepers? You mean jailers more like.
thewittyfool
Before the dark times. Before the empire.
SeanBeanDiesAlot
From when to when? Much of those 1000 years were the dark ages, it was the Abbasid Dynasty that was the most mass educated post-Romes fall
LuffyDmonkey1
Nah
rando84
Rome never really fell. Constantinople lasted for another 700 years &, when it fell in 1453, the Italian Renaissance was already 100-200 (1
WhateverICanGet
It's better to say that it did fall. Otherwise history nuts will argue over who was the true successor to the roman empire.
It did fall, just not in the sense that it was a total collapse or all Roman culture/institutions disappeared.
years old (things like the Carolingian Renaissance notwithstanding)—the Dark Ages as a period of no progress has fallen out of favor (2
Kuzcosgroove
In terms of mass education the West was pretty rough, but many many many valuable manuscripts were preserved and copied by Catholic Monks.
Just never into native languages for the locals...like the bible...which kept people wholly dependent on the church for salvation 1/
Back then if your could afford a book you could read Latin (or at least hire someone to translate it for you).
Back then being literate essentially meant being able to read Latin. Religious instruction of the common folk was restricted to sermons. 1/2
Not because of any nefarious plot to keep information out of the hands of common folk, but simply because most people couldn't read. 2/2
it was 1 of the main reasons for the Reformation, the church exploited low castes egregiously for centuries with the threat of damnation 2/2
Half of Europe spoke some kind of vulgar Latin and Latin was the language of secular learning. Threats of damnation increased dramatically(1
FabulousBadass
*gatekeepers
ShieldAnvil1
Not really, today yes, then no. A lot of the knowledge we have about ancient times is because churches preserved it.
maskedrabbit
But they also resisted making knowledge accessible. Church leaders were not happy about the bible being translated from latin.
1) The Orthodox Church has a long tradition of translating Scripture into local languages. 2) Several translations of the Bible into 1/
English predated the Protestant Reformation, even going back to Old English. Eastern and Western missionaries even created alphabets to 2/
HedonistBeard
Potato potato.
It's potato, sheesh...
In a way yes, but at the same time, the Orthodox church is the only reason we still have ancient greek plays.
Sure, sure . that's what the church wants you to think. Imagine how much information was destroyed in the name of religion.
Not really...much of any, actually?
lol. That delete tho.
It wasn't worth going on a tarade. Some people just need to agree to disagree and leave it at that.
The Eastern Orthodox churches weren't the same as the Benedictine churches. The Dark Ages were very much a European thing.
The Eastern Orthodox monasteries pretty much carried on as they had been, and pretty much as they currently do.
Imagine how much information was destroyed in other cases as well. Library of Alexandria wasn't destroyed due to religion. I just so 1/2
happen to have studied ancient greece at university, so, part of that includes how their texts survived. About 80% of the texts lost 1½/2
AlwaysDownVote
This has been reposted so many times, she prob 90 yrs old by now
Queuellioklif
jesusisherelookbusy
LetMeinNow
Nice!
Crooki
Can she do the halo song tho..?
Iwasoutedbyatroll
Thanks for the religious experience
ilsalta
I love that smile. That was a “Damn that was awesome.” smile.
grizzy86
This is way too short a clip, more please
Queuellioklif
https://youtu.be/ZPEBYXrfVQw
MyHouseOnMars
Her singing is beautiful.
sgtxsarge
I can smell the incense
carriedeservedbetter
Chills
WillemHellfire
My blood pressure is normal now.
shaftofbread
"You work at car phone warehouse, and you just did that? I was not expecting that!"
quinnmann
This isn’t the Halo song! Wth??
joers
A perfect 5/7
EzraFell
That's the most beautiful thing I've seen and heard today. Thank you.
i2ocker89
I know wtf and cuts off right when I'm into it
Imademyselfsquirtle
They making babies atm.
CJCaruso
https://youtu.be/IlNBnzyiomU
i2ocker89
Thank you ?
Judoka12
Do free Bird
eazfb
I thought it was Sasha Grey until I saw the youtube link posted....
stinkbeaner
Is there a full video of this?
EirikurDC
Check out Malinda’s YouTube channel. She posted the other two videos shot in that building
kc2syk
https://youtu.be/IlNBnzyiomU
EirikurDC
https://youtu.be/8DRyrKPFRgo
DigiT00l
That is not the full video, she does have it on her channel though
EirikurDC
No it has the full video and two others she hadn’t posted before in it and the backstory
DigiT00l
I thought full video was the one she recorded later in DC
EirikurDC
https://youtu.be/ZPEBYXrfVQw this one? This is in a different place. The post is in a church in Spain.
GuardsmanMiku
pretty easy to believe how people where so religious in the past when entering a cathedral in person. Just got this aura about the place
DasDovian
I remember walking into Catholic mass as a child and thinking we were walking into a castle.
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
Catholicism: the most successful business in the world. Has owned multiple countries and nearly an entire continent.
CatilioPlaceresCannabicos
Have you read how an angel looks like according to the Bible?
or0b0ur0s
The magical acoustics of a Big-Ass Stone Room. Takes six figures' worth of audio equipment to get that effect in a studio.
Thebestusernamewasalreadytakensoihadtopickthisone
That's a better reverb than most digital pedals out there (even the pricey ones)
TheePerfectComment
Zukai25
Haha I love the ending, "Thank you, please be seated."
RequiescatInPace
I am cackling
StenYngve
Top comment talks about how we could build like that back then. This clearly shows we still can.
DumbandConfused
This is the low budget version
jesusisherelookbusy
CrucialComma
Name checks out
Toolbone
Someone's wearing their steel toes
LightingSquirrel
I like this a lot
IWouldJustLikeToSay
This is Melinda Kathleen Reese. She has a YouTube channel you should check out!
DigiT00l
She has 2, Translator Fails and MALINDA
IWouldJustLikeToSay
Whole church video https://youtu.be/IlNBnzyiomU
probshouldntsayitbut
I never knew there was more!! Thanks!
CatsandDnD
TsunamiJohn
Don't mind me just looking at the comments on this post
Piizzle
Kirkwardo
Not a single one of them on key
rowrowyerboat
I thought they were singing Ace Ventura’s “Alrighty Then” monk chant
WristDeepInaBook
Get to homeroom. And to whoever is flushing the paper towels: that's a paddle'n
WatermelonForScale
Watching this without sound was kinda strange
majorserenity
Senddankmemeshere
I always love this haha.
Wikipedo
If something isn't filmed, did it happen?
dannne
All the girls in the girl bathroom: WTF is going on in there?!?
DaftKid
https://cdn3.whatculture.com/images/2014/03/Halo-2.jpg
FeyDecay
There is a female PoV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRG9KwvbVhk
NarratesTheDarkerStory
Honestly, while watching OP's vid, knowing it's annactual hymnal, I was still waiting for the buhbuhbuhDUHhhhh buhbuhbuhDUHHHH
Duffman26
eltrim
Seeing all those people so close together gives me anxiety under the current climate. XD
NurgleErik
That still give me the chills. Remind me of the first time I played Halo, with three friends on a 120” projector screen and my home stereo.
Green11ndys
Halo was the best when on a projector
NurgleErik
The first and best co op experience I’ve had. Graphic, story, game play - all gets better. But that feeling will never be topped. Life peak.
GoogleFu
Malinda, here she talks about it; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DRyrKPFRgo
angry0tter
BeardedCactusJack
Thank you for sharing!
ShearWind
Doot
saysomethingcool
They build stuff like this in the medieval ages! And today people think the earth is flat. What happened?
StenYngve
Too be fair, most people back then believed the Earth was flat
Jasfmpgh
They had the smart people build it and the dumb people were dumb in private. Now we let the dumb people share with the whole world.
oloolooloolooloolo
dark ages will be back soon, that is what is happening.
SyrusDrake
The internet, mostly. Every town has always had a "village idiot". But today, the global population of village idiots can communicate.
ArgentXero
internet
Mxlespxles
The American educational system has been gutted over generations
ImgursLibertarian
The DOEd started in 1980.
ImgursLibertarian
The HEW was started in 1953. So I guess your argument is that the federal government getting involved gutted the system.
MlLKA
Build built built
OnlyAlphanumericCharactersAreAllowedYouStupidFuck
We don't have slaves any more to force them to make giant unnecessary shit.
TinyLiehon
All the mountains got flattened while carving the stones for these structures
orbitn
until at least the 1700s they called the information of a trade 'mysteries'.. I recently read all sorts of old family docs, and one dude >
orbitn
got apprenticed in the 1790s and the contract said "A full set of tools, food, and to be instructed in the mysteries of cooperage"
orbitn
Other family documents were less fun to stumble on.. "A bill of sale for the negro girl called helen" and the like :(
TheMostCynicalBastard
What's that law where people think old stuff is always better because the old shitty stuff breaks? Cunningham's law or something?
nch77
Survivorship bias
PotatoThunder
They thought the earth was flat then too. It doesn't really affect your ability to build a building.
CoffeeZombie
Educated people have known the Earth was round since the ancient Greeks. Flat Earthism is a modern thing.
PotatoThunder
Your face is a modern thing
CoffeeZombie
Hey, now, I've been told I have a face for radio!
Proffesional1Downer
We peaked as a species. It’s all down here from here.
pupperscatdog11
I'm not a believer of evolution but I certainly see the case for de-evolution.
mrose50
Thankfully facts don't require belief. *Thumbs up* Yes I'm an asshole. If more assholes talked down to idiots the world would be better off.
pupperscatdog11
You missed my point but okay.
mrose50
Yeah after you said "I'm not a believer in evolution" I stopped believing in air and just passed out after that. Wanna try again?
pupperscatdog11
I was trying to agree with OP. Seemed like he was saying we have taken a step backward since medieval times ie long ago we were capable of
TheAdventuresofCarltheIncompetentLabAssisstant
Scientists and engineers built a telescope to view a black hole. We're doing alright.
Etlac
An object the size of the solar system, 55 million lightyears away.
TheAdventuresofCarltheIncompetentLabAssisstant
They've also detected a radiometric decay event of a single Xe-124 atom, which has a half life of 18 sextillion years.
Imalwaysready
We still have some capable people...who are increasingly losing funding as less educated masses turn on them.
BeKindToAll
That’s just in the Western world. Asia’s doing much better...
JackieTreehornProductions
Social media allowed the village idiot to find fellow idiots and build a cult of idiots. Strength and danger in numbers of unchecked idiots.
AlaSnackbar
And internet gave them the megaphone they needed to shout their stupidity.
Whatwhatsomethingbutt
We literally evolved to believe the 1st thing we hear. Many sources today and few of them experts + bad actors spreading misinfo purposely
Richter12x2
That sounds 100% true!
AllTheGoodOnesWereGone
Obviously humans could not have constructed such incredible structures so it must have been aliens.
jesting
Meritocracy was demonized by the Idiocracy and now ignorance is just as important and expertise.
amop
You’re saying feudal times were based on meritocracy? At the risk of sounding like a 37yo dennis, it’s all about class
FiendishDoctorWuTangClan
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scavenger98888
That... that is not at all true of the middle ages...
Mechame
I believe @jesting is talking about scientific discovery, and you are talking about political power.
amop
Social, not political, and i’d say more people lacked scientific understanding then than now even considering contemporaneous deniers
Mechame
The internet hands deniers the giant megaphone of salience.
MmeElspeth
Still maintain it's an ignorant statement then, that's not how the process scientific discovery works now, or really ever.
Mokelzwerg
Not sure if you‘re being ironic...
CaptainHedgeHog
You know most people in the middle ages knew the world was round right?
vangundy15
Did they still believe the Earth was the center of our solar system?
buskill
The common man probably thought of the earth as a ”round like a table rather than an apple”. Source Wikipedia.
Imalwaysready
Round? Idiots didn't even know it was actually a slightly oblate spheroid! Morons.
jesting
Are... Are you suggesting spheroids aren't round?
MASSIVESPACEMONKEY
Oblate ones? Not really round.
Silas007
You know most people in medieval times couldnt read let alone educated about the fuckin shape of earth with 0 implications on their life.
CaptainHedgeHog
You really dont know your history do ya mate.
MmeElspeth
That's also... not true.
Silas007
Based on what? I am intrigued if you have a decet source contradicting all literacy rate numbers I read in some quick internet research.
kramnelladoow
Social media/the internet gave all the village idiots the biggest megaphone in history, unfortunately.
Markamanic
IIRC some dude in Egypt figured out the earth's curvature by measuring the shadows on obelisks placed different distances from the equator.
Markamanic
Around about 3000 BCE
StoicOptimist
Back then it was punishable by ex-communication or worse.. today we lol at it online 8)
Dukenewcmb
The cult of ignorance has a louder voice but smaller numbers.
DVSBSTrD
Depending on when this church was built, the might also have thought the earth was flat.
RedKale
Well. People who build these believed in God.
cjandstuff
So did the father of modern genetics and the guy who proposed the Big Bang theory.
ImgursLibertarian
Gregor Mendel and Chuck Lorre for those who want to save a google.
ImgursLibertarian
And if you did google or know who the three people involved are with this joke, you're welcome.
Mokelzwerg
That doesn’t matter really. There are scientists who believe in god. But people who built these believed the earth was flat!
Baard
People of the middle ages, even religious, believed that the earth was round, the idea of the flat earth became popular in the 1800s
ccman87
I'll bet the same percentage of people believed the world is flat in both times (i.e. a really small number but not 0)
Grifter9000
The workers maybe, but not the architects. Educated people have known the earth was curved since the classical period.
batcavedweller
It's a common misconception that Earth was believed to be flat in the Middle Ages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth
Khatvogel
It's easier to believe in a higher power if your planet is the centre of the universe. They didn't think the earth was flat though
SeeYaLaterMethamphetaGator
wasn't the curvature of the earth discovered in ancient Egypt, then later proven again in ancient Greece?
asm80dfa8sdfj
It was proven not-flat by many cultures. The last being China in 17th century. But even in science driven countries many didn't believe.
SeeYaLaterMethamphetaGator
i think we should probably remember that the uneducated were certainly not the ones designing masterpieces.
Imalwaysready
Yes. Learned people haven't thought the world was flat for 3,000 years now. Peasants maybe, but not many with educations (like engineers).
asm80dfa8sdfj
Here's a world map from 1893 making fun of "globe theory" as it was called. https://imgur.com/NXTLwMt
Imalwaysready
Man, both the cartoon on the far right and the plea for money in the bottom right corner are gold, Jerry. Gold!
TheAdventuresofCarltheIncompetentLabAssisstant
You are absolutely correct. They calculated the circumference to be 40,000 Km (in modern units). The actual circumference is 40,075 Km.
Dontbelieveeverythingyouread2718
Oh you guys are going to give facts. People are trying to make a point, facts don't come into it.
tdammers
Or pretended to.
BaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaBATMAN
Isaac Newton himself was a devout Christian. He was convinced he proved the existence of God when proving that due to gravitational pull,
tdammers
Newton didn't build churches though.
BaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaBATMAN
planets and stars should be pulling each other together but they don't.
BaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaBATMAN
Hw wrote 10 times as much on theology than he did on math, physics and science in general.
Honorius77
Democratization of information and power is a double edged sword. The dark side of it is idiots today can have a powerful voice.
tdammers
She doesn't look THAT old...
TanithRosenbaum
There were dumb people back then too, and there's people who build smartphones and quantum computers today. Not really much changed. The>>
TanithRosenbaum
>>only thing that has changed is that in the past, dumb people had no Facebook to give them an audience outside cousin Fred and aunt Millie
Cruxador
Unironically the fault of the YouTube algorithm.
Cruxador
Although related dumbfuckery like anti-vaccination can be attributed to facebook
Cruxador
And there's plenty of blame to lay at the feet of conventional media as well.
mikereClicker
My working theory is that dumb people lack impulse control. This leads to them breeding more.
MmeElspeth
And ignoring the centuries of class disparity that encourages lack of education/birth control/assistance for lower classes, intentionally.
cjandstuff
Idiocracy?
EmeraldMoreLikeUninstall
You should watch this 2006 documentary about it. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/
Silas007
No you really shouldnt.
TheS4ndm4n
Terry crews would be a massive improvement.
welcometothedanktrix
In all fairness tho- Terry Crews would be a massive improvement to most things
csullivan
hijindc
I don't understand
csullivan
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world
Imalwaysready
What a difference a thousand trips around the sun can make...
CoffeeZombie
Wow, that's...basically 100% inaccurate.
Ladet
We should couple that map with relative wealth of a nation, or standard of living
thebitterswed
I dont know Dubai is pretty wealthy so is Turkey and iran still lots of religious bs
christooss
Missing yellow America.
DickPicEnthusiast
America used to be Red, White and Blue. But now it's just orange.
LychFinderGeneral
But...the OP literally shows incredible medieval science in acoustic engineering.
seuratparrot
Getting your central library burned in a abrahamic religion-off will definitely do that.
TemetNosce000
Well put
buttcreambandit
The library of Alexandria? That burned from a turf war after Alexander’s death. Fire started in docks on purpose to clear the way for 1/2
buttcreambandit
More ships to dock and lend support, it spread to the city and burned a shitload of it down including the library
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
Depending on when it was built, the people who built it may have all believed the Earth was flat.
Goodburrito
To be fair, they thought the earth was flat too....
Mokelzwerg
That’s true. Don’t know why you’re being downvoted.
TheAdventuresofCarltheIncompetentLabAssisstant
People have known the earth was round for quite a long time. At this time they thought the earth was the center of the universe
Mokelzwerg
You‘re right... whoops
Silas007
Yeah guess what. It is rumored some people know the world is round even today. That argument has no merit.
TheAdventuresofCarltheIncompetentLabAssisstant
My argument is that the idea that the world is round has been around since antiquity.
GodEmperorOfImgur
Thing is, even you can perform experiments to verify that the earth is round. I dare you to verify it's flat (IE, not anecdotal). :P
nch77
People do not think the earth is flat. A very tiny minority think that.
luigo90
NO ONE should believe that the earth is flat to begin with ..
nch77
There are stupid people everywhere, I’m not surprised some believe it.
pritolus
The random people in the street started "doing their own research" instead of listening to the established experts
greyspears
You know nobody really believes the earth is flat they are trolling.
CoffeeZombie
I know people who do, in fact, really believe the earth is flat. It's insane.
DigiT00l
This is in America iirc, the woman is American at least
DigiT00l
Oh,it was in Spain
DigiT00l
She later made a similar video in the Washington cathedral though
Imalwaysready
"Anywhere on Earth an American stands is, at that moment, a part of America." - Quote I made up and attributed to Teddy Roosevelt
DigiT00l
Like I said she later did a similar video in Washington, I forgot she did 2 of those, and remembered she recorded one in Washington cathedra
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
For almost 1000 years, the Catholic and Orthodox churches were the safekeepers of knowledge in Europe and Asia Minor and they showed it.
Sfingks
The song is an example of the wrong they did. Its a call to european religious extremists to wage a holy war on the Persian empire.
ashcans
Then everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked.
GeneralRaven
Only the Pope master of all Christian elements could save them.
GrumpyOldMillennial
.....literally the pope is the cause of the Great Schism. He couldn't save them because the caused the war in the first place.
GeneralRaven
Does this mean the Pope is fire nation?!
GeneralRaven
Or maybe a water bender cuz of baptisms? And water to wine sounds very much like water bender so maybe Jesus was water tribe?!
Rignak
Safekeepers? You mean jailers more like.
thewittyfool
Before the dark times. Before the empire.
SeanBeanDiesAlot
From when to when? Much of those 1000 years were the dark ages, it was the Abbasid Dynasty that was the most mass educated post-Romes fall
LuffyDmonkey1
Nah
rando84
Rome never really fell. Constantinople lasted for another 700 years &, when it fell in 1453, the Italian Renaissance was already 100-200 (1
WhateverICanGet
It's better to say that it did fall. Otherwise history nuts will argue over who was the true successor to the roman empire.
rando84
It did fall, just not in the sense that it was a total collapse or all Roman culture/institutions disappeared.
rando84
years old (things like the Carolingian Renaissance notwithstanding)—the Dark Ages as a period of no progress has fallen out of favor (2
Kuzcosgroove
In terms of mass education the West was pretty rough, but many many many valuable manuscripts were preserved and copied by Catholic Monks.
SeanBeanDiesAlot
Just never into native languages for the locals...like the bible...which kept people wholly dependent on the church for salvation 1/
Kuzcosgroove
Back then if your could afford a book you could read Latin (or at least hire someone to translate it for you).
Kuzcosgroove
Back then being literate essentially meant being able to read Latin. Religious instruction of the common folk was restricted to sermons. 1/2
Kuzcosgroove
Not because of any nefarious plot to keep information out of the hands of common folk, but simply because most people couldn't read. 2/2
SeanBeanDiesAlot
it was 1 of the main reasons for the Reformation, the church exploited low castes egregiously for centuries with the threat of damnation 2/2
rando84
Half of Europe spoke some kind of vulgar Latin and Latin was the language of secular learning. Threats of damnation increased dramatically(1
FabulousBadass
*gatekeepers
ShieldAnvil1
Not really, today yes, then no. A lot of the knowledge we have about ancient times is because churches preserved it.
maskedrabbit
But they also resisted making knowledge accessible. Church leaders were not happy about the bible being translated from latin.
CoffeeZombie
1) The Orthodox Church has a long tradition of translating Scripture into local languages. 2) Several translations of the Bible into 1/
CoffeeZombie
English predated the Protestant Reformation, even going back to Old English. Eastern and Western missionaries even created alphabets to 2/
HedonistBeard
Potato potato.
FabulousBadass
It's potato, sheesh...
GodEmperorOfImgur
In a way yes, but at the same time, the Orthodox church is the only reason we still have ancient greek plays.
Rignak
Sure, sure . that's what the church wants you to think. Imagine how much information was destroyed in the name of religion.
CoffeeZombie
Not really...much of any, actually?
GodEmperorOfImgur
lol. That delete tho.
Rignak
It wasn't worth going on a tarade. Some people just need to agree to disagree and leave it at that.
GrumpyOldMillennial
The Eastern Orthodox churches weren't the same as the Benedictine churches. The Dark Ages were very much a European thing.
GrumpyOldMillennial
The Eastern Orthodox monasteries pretty much carried on as they had been, and pretty much as they currently do.
GodEmperorOfImgur
Imagine how much information was destroyed in other cases as well. Library of Alexandria wasn't destroyed due to religion. I just so 1/2
GodEmperorOfImgur
happen to have studied ancient greece at university, so, part of that includes how their texts survived. About 80% of the texts lost 1½/2