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Happy Birthday America! Never forget what makes us strong!
Jul 4, 2017 3:21 PM
ElectroluxType2
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Happy Birthday America! Never forget what makes us strong!
breakingcode
The disunity is party sponsored theater. The parties work hand in hand to ensure the "Us vs Them" mentality. It's good for control purposes.
trippingthelightfantastic
"Chamomile Tea Party"!
ImmaLifeguardImHereToHelp
I'm more of a Boston tea party guy myself
wwny
Hmm, let me sleep on it.
Dagordae
So we are using shitty gears? Need to stop buying China's cheap shit.
Kewlair
Disunity? You mean Collectivist Identity Politicing
ThanksIHateThis
I'll refer you to Washington's farewell address about political parties...
JunglePygmy
Never read the word "disunity" before now.
5P4RK4
Is America the only country in the world where its center-right (liberals) vs right wing? Liberal != left y'all.
GeneralPigly
I know somebody who occasionally posts stuff like this to fb. ...She also tends to ramble about how evil conservatives are.
RayLynch
This is why "honoring diversity" is 100% bullshit. We should be honoring the things that make us the same, not different!
Arsikere
the knife should be Want For Ad Revenue
kellerstern
This is very effective imaginery of that liberal can't look/work exactly the same as conservative. Differentiation rather than disunity.
BanThisIfYouDare
LIBRULS ARE MORE BROKEN THAN US !!! KEEP TRYING BOYS !! KEEP TRYING !!!!!
IOnlyUseSmallCaps
The worst part is these comments is that any liberal view is up voted to space, but any conservative view is down voted into oblivion.
Chandraven
Except we were never supposed to have opposing parties because this level of pettiness and lack of unity was predicted.
ThisAccountisforvoting
This poster implies Liberals and Conservatives are helping destroy disunity at grave expense to themselves.
ThatswhatIwasthinking
That's what I was thinking
spudcosmic
The two ideas are clear here and it's evident they're trying to work together but "disunity" is forcing them apart
AnAccountToPostThis
Look at what actually being destroyed though. Disunity isn't even scratched.
SpankyFantastic
Maybe that's what is happening. Polarisation of ideologies at the expense of an intelligent conversation. But I'm in the UK 1/2
SpankyFantastic
And we are just amazeballs right now so who am I to comment? 2/2
DemSumBigAssRidges
The knife isn't breaking though, but maybe you're just 5edgy7me...
Crumply
that's not how gears work
Rakorsky
I like how conservatives are less damaged than liberals xD
ImgurCelebrity
Yeah, a bayonette was actually a poor choice. Should have been a monkey wrench.
0112358132134558914423337761098715972584418167651094617711
Gears aren't a weapon dude.
FizzleBurger
And since it says "We're losing our...edge", it implies that we should stop that from happening. Keep disunity strong and pointy!
techley
If only.
ElectroluxType2
You. I like you. Can you be the next President?
ThisAccountisforvoting
Canadian. Flattered, but Canadian.
SPICYDlCKMlLK
If trump can be anybody can
UndeadGopher
PUSH HARDER! THE LIBERALS ARE CRACKING!
labyrinthconvention
SAD!....but perceptive
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Found the bayonet
nopenononope
ElectroluxType2
It's really ... dicking things up.
zma123456
People have forgotten that Dissent is American. The whole idea of America is embracing our differences, and beliefs.
d0o0o0d
...right on schedule.
beeblebroxian
Yeah... Except conservatives voted for a fucknut who ran on a platform of disunity. So. About that.
ilovegramsalot
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gIuotFZnBtk
IOnlyUseSmallCaps
Still more united than the Democrats.
HaveGinWillBabble
Those guys still exist?
dennydorko
"But her emails!"
RydiaX
Yes, well, as an independent, I can blame both sides equally.
Ellimem
You can blame both sides equally if you're an idiot. As a Republican, it's pretty clear which of the two parties is hurting the people more.
VeskaiTsumonit
Both sides are to blame. that the republicans could gain so much ground says a lot for what the Democrats haven't done.
dennydorko
"what the Democrats haven't done"? The Republican platform was almost literally "Everything Obama did was bad" and their main (1/2)
dennydorko
(2/2)constituency is old people who think they should be the ONLY ONES to have health care provided by the government and fuck the poor.
IOnlyUseSmallCaps
Republicans almost always will tell you NO free or government health care for anyone, and if at all, a minimum. Anything else is a lie. Most
RydiaX
Republicans have their issues. That tea party movement put in office some guys who are too rigid to get anything done in Congress.
illegalacorn
yours? lmao
Ellimem
Uh, yea.
PriestOfLordVote
Congratulations, you're the bayonet of disunity.
IronicUsername
I just want to second the "you can blame both sides equally if you're an idiot" assertion. Both sides are not equal and right now one [1]
IronicUsername
of them holds pretty much all the power on a federal level. [2]
d0o0o0d
That makes it sound like the voters blame one side more than the other.
illegalacorn
The important thing is that you've found a way to feel superior to both.
VeskaiTsumonit
So, you are the bayonet of Disunity?
doogah
No one feels this way anymore. Politics has done away with unity in favor of "governmental sports teams"
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Aeav8r
An upvote for accuracy, and a downvote for sadness. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul...
FlorbFnarb
There are real differences between liberals and conservatives.
gurglingsteak
Except the one that ties us all together. We are all AMERICANS...
FlorbFnarb
I get that, but there's two kinds of calls for "unity": (more)
FlorbFnarb
The first is to ask people to remember what you just said - that we're all Americans. (more)
FlorbFnarb
The second is to attempt to gloss over those real differences and expect people to treat them as basically trivial, when (more)
FractalPrism
Decentralize the power structure no more positions of power. &instead use Scientific Consensus for all policies. no binary voting.
CarthAntilles
Suck it colonials; Our Empire lasts fo- Oh wait, Shit.
Grenther
They should wear sport uniforms with their sponsors on it.
TheGriffin
Except they're not trying to score on each other. They stand at opposite ends scoring in their own nets as much as they can
GeniusGT
Hey! It's that gif I made. :D
HaveGinWillBabble
We need to come up with a catchy derogatory term for this.
kasaku
There's never been unity. Have you seen the shit they said in the first few election in the US?
odinragnarok
it got way worse after you posted this
euphoricopportunity
Yeah - I'm particularly annoyed that the media encourages this more and more with every year - almost no coverage of issues, tons on polls.
flummoxes
"Governmental sports teams" is a great term, surprised I've never heard it before.
dudds6699
Jersey voters
doogah
Yeah I've felt like that since high school (I'm 31 now). People act like their political party is winning the Super Bowl... it's ridiculous.
Sapotaattori
Sounds like one of the earliest political "parties" from history. Specifically Byzantine Empire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nika_riots
flummoxes
Chariot racing is life.
Ellimem
I don't know how you haven't. It's talked about quite frequently.
Niittomies
It's going to be Nika riots all over again.
IronicUsername
Nah, fuck that. "Governmental sports teams" implies an arbitrary choice. It's not. I don't want the GOP to lose because they're not [1]
IronicUsername
the "team" I picked, I want them to lose because they've become the party of authoritarianism and religious extremism and their [2]
IronicUsername
platform threatens my ability to prosper and live among my fellow citizens as an equal. [3]
snewsh
and the dnc, releasing thousands of criminals and raising taxes exponentially, are any better?
LordIndica
Lol, put the moonshine down, scooter
IronicUsername
1) The DNC doesn't legislate. You mean Democrats and yes, they are absolutely better. 2) Unnecessarily long prison sentences,
hearthstoneaccount3
Higher taxes leads to a better working class and prisons only train people to be better criminals they're worthless.
gurglingsteak
It's simply divide and conquer, well control in this instance. Point anger at other side vs let anger be united at govt. Old as war itself
manslut
Yeah, just like sports. One team wants to strip my rights away and the other nominates an inelectable candidate for all the wrong reasons.
bwchronos
This attitude is part of the problem and certainly doesn't speak for my position.
gurglingsteak
100% correct. Repubs and dems have us all fooled. They still yacht and attend gala's together. Point us at each other instead of themself
bwchronos
They benefit the most from the increasing divisiveness between the two parties. Can't be a hero if you don't have an enemy.
gurglingsteak
Eggg zachly
KawaNyx
Governmental sports team is an awesome way to describe it. Fuck this 2 party system
Sapotaattori
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nika_riots From byzantine empire.
Nuttsy
Nit: While you guys might take it to extremes, much like shitty healthcare and obesity, that kind of attitude is not exclusive to the US.
HaveGinWillBabble
Fuck it well and proper.
hearthstoneaccount3
Shame theres no parties worth supporting other than those 2. Greens cant plan a manifesto, Libertarians are crazy and its worse from there.
Datdudez
No serious candidates run on the 3rd party tickets because no one takes the 3rd parties seriously.
jsktrogdor
It's kinda hard to feel "unified" when Republicans are kicking 24 million Americans off their healthcare over petty political bullshit.
TheYoungGod
It's not about the emotion. Fundamentally, Republicans are right, our healthcare system is broken. "Lololol make it free" doesn't come...
gurglingsteak
Read every piece, literally exactly correct though NO one likes it. I don't want my auto mechanic and surgeon to change careers...
jsktrogdor
Everyone thinks the healthcare system is broken, that's not a republican thing. And the bill they tried to pass is going to make it worse.
HaveGinWillBabble
I don't see how making it worse helps.
TheYoungGod
I'm not saying they after going about it the right way. But they weren't wrong about healthcare being broken. We need to come together
TheYoungGod
And solve this. What I'm saying is that our habit of fighting each other instead of attempting to understand each other is gonna run us down
TheYoungGod
Close to the complex solution needed. Our Medicare current system penalizes and rewards hospitals based on performance. It's fucking stupid
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Here's the complex situations biggest issue we as a nation are fine with people dying because treatment is so expensive. Because capitalism
TheYoungGod
Because the hospitals in more "ghetto" areas, just end up getting worse and worse.
TheYoungGod
Moreover, we want to avoid a situation like the NHS in the UK where healthcare providers are stuck on food stamps.
ElectroluxType2
You prescribing how others feel might be part of the problem. Its our system, don't vote for blind party loyalists. G. Washington warned us.
Sacurason
What? He's agreeing with the content of the post.
doogah
You're prescribing what to do instead of how to feel. what's more dangerous?You're doing exactly what I am
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ElectroluxType2
You cant know how anyone else feels. And a suggestion to correct your perceived "teams" issue is met by trolling. Have fun under the bridge.
thingifound
Don't assume people are homeless:(
TwoCheese
That sounds like you're saying he's going to be homeless.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
The hatred between liberals and conservatives on social media is hilarious because in real life the discussion is always very friendly. 1/2
Jet7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWuoxek04t8 <- "friendly" Not using this as pointing fingers, just saying it's become a toxic topic now.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
I personally think social media is quite responsible for this division. And yes I know that's not an original idea.
doyouevenrobot
My coworkers and I always refer to it as "antisocial media".
Onceamarineoncewasenough
I mean it dosn't have to be original to be correct.
gurglingsteak
Not just social media, all media. And the commons citizens desire to listen to a pop star about politics is staggering to me. 1/2
gurglingsteak
HS drop out with fantastic vocal talent is leading (some) people's political charge! Like they are intelligent because they hold a tune.
gurglingsteak
That's because the political elite vacation and hold fundraisers together. They care about their spot in life, not about societal problems
314ror
Of course, people never talk about politics in person because they know it's inappropriate. They should behave the same online :[
Dontdearabbyme
It's easier to be a dick when you're anonymous. If I called you an asshole online, there's not much you could do to me. You could call me 1
Dontdearabbyme
One back.. but generally nothing too damaging. In person, though, there's way more options and you'd know who I am. 2/2
314ror
We all saw where this kind of behaviour went in January, was correct regardless.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
But I'm a New Yorker visiting Alabama and I've had so many great civil discussions with trump supporters. It's so refreshing 2/2
Ferrumkit
The key is that you've met them, others that oft call them flyovers and bumpkins, hicks , rednecks etc. often only see a caricature.
roads88mph
And that goes the other way as well.
StrangelyGrimm
Strawmanning someone's argument is way too common nowadays.
VeskaiTsumonit
The people of the land tend to be less offended by those that talk to them vs. those that stay in their towers.
BHPaperstacks
I've had a man scream in my face for saying corporate culture is causing stagnant wages rather than immigration and unions.
mmurrbles
The reality is stagnant wages are a result of too much labor supply and not enough demand. Should see wages go up soon though.
TheGifMaster
HaveGinWillBabble
This.
ElectroluxType2
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/07/the-founding-fathers-tried-to-warn-us-about-the-threat-from-a-two-party-system.html
NerdN1
We'd need to significantly change our system to make a multi-party system viable such as with ranked voting or run-off systems. >>
NerdN1
Fractional representation might also work. The problem is that any serious shift to the system would require support from those in power. >>
NerdN1
Those in power have figured out how to stay in power under the current system and are unlikely to want to change the rules.
bamcockseverywhere
Yeah it really sucks that a lot of the math in the constitution sounded good to educated dudes in 1787 but then game theory happened :(
NerdN1
They intended to make a safe system. This means that a fleeting majority can't dominate, but it also makes it harder to get things done.
Rebonack
Well maybe they shouldn't have set up a shitty voting method that ensures a two party system, then.
just4favs
Close your Facebook account and stop watching cable news. The world becomes a much better place. Political tribalism is the most cancerous.
Uzernaime
A house divided against itself...
theboyssoul
I wish people would realize criticizing one side is not the same as supporting the other. They both suck. They just take turns sucking more.
HaveGinWillBabble
Yeah. Just because Trump doesn't mean I voted Hillary.
ilovegramsalot
mmurrbles
What's wrong with you? You can't use reasonable arguments that's against the rules.
thevortexmaster
From what I've seen you guys seem pretty divided these days but it's just the internet and media I'm sure
ElectroluxType2
Life imitates art, and the lines are starting to blur. You can tell from some of the comments.
thevortexmaster
Ya I've noticed quite a bit of hostility between the two sides but I've never seen it when I actually go down there
VeskaiTsumonit
Oh, we get pretty divided... over bathroom use. Not who should get food, and as a nation we react in close unity about water.
Fenderzilla
It's not
NewToTheEnterwbs
I hear people all the time saying that "Liberals are ruining xxxxx" and then say some mid western state is better and they are leaving
NewToTheEnterwbs
4 like the elderly to keep their cheques, females their birth control, a right to keep current gun laws, or children having an education.
mmurrbles
Those are insanity you must be a moderate.
NewToTheEnterwbs
(Cali) for a better state. There is a ton of dividing going on. I saw some guys try to fight a Hindu man because they thought he was Muslim.
NewToTheEnterwbs
3 now if people even think you are on either side they will try to argue with you or laugh at you because you are "crazy for wanting things
gurglingsteak
As I've said before & almost every comment I post. Politicians want to maintain their status and lifestyle more than contribute to society
thevortexmaster
1) Huh? I'm just talking regular people yelling at each other stuff like "libtards" and "republicunts" and just plain not get along even in
thevortexmaster
2) fellow citizens in your own country
thevortexmaster
Sorry I screwed up my comment a bit hahaha
Dontdearabbyme
I think the person you're responding to meant that not matter the side, party leaders don't care about citizens, they just want wealth and 1
Dontdearabbyme
Power. So, fanatically supporting either side does nothing for the common person, bc we're not the focus. The money/power is. 2/2
danishjuggler21
It's not. I've heard my own mother say that we need a new civil war to "take care of these liberals".
HaveGinWillBabble
Stupid liberals and their compassion. I hate them.
thevortexmaster
Jesus
GuntherHunter15
That's horrible, tell your mom to think about other people as people, and to reapect them, and you know, The horrors of war...
Dontdearabbyme
I feel like if we have a new civil war, people are gonna try the whole "watch the battles while having a picnic!" Thing again.
MyEnigma
But civil war will erupt, whether you like it or not. The signs are getting more easy to spot as the state propaganda and society crumbles.
DrewBerg
That more sounds like wishful thinking on your part. It will happen if people like you justify it with idiotic excuses. Grow the fuck up.
Mikeynikeye
The problem is that there are some radical liberals taking identity politics to the extreme. It's dividing people rather than uniting.
The2ndHank
If you think that's the worst of American politics you've got you're head up your ass.
Mikeynikeye
Should have clarified as "Part of the problem". Of course a bunch of crazy millennials aren't derailing the country. It is a problem though.
imooforyou
Lots of GOP family members. I find they are biggest shit talkers out there. All bluff and bluster. Like Trump. They like to talk 'tough'.
DrewBerg
I'm pretty sure I could take your mom.
GuntherHunter15
Yea, i got a liberal mindset but i also got a pumpaction shotgun, i hope she'll be okay with discussing The problems then.
jmgrey
Congrats on the scatter gun. For every one of you, there are 5000 liberals whose greatest weapon is blocking someone on Twitter.
HaveGinWillBabble
TonawandaBlue
This assumes both sides can be a loyal opposition. The Cons haven't been loyal to America for 25 yrs. Trump only won with Russia's help.
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madbydesign
Fundamental difference: media like InfoWars and Brietbart wouldn't admit to outright lying despite caught lying.
BigGovernmentIsEvil4
You'll believe any non provable lie the media tells you huh?
madbydesign
Like Pizzagate?
IOnlyUseSmallCaps
Did people actually believe that though? I can assure you a fair amount didn't.
bwchronos
This...this is the exact problem. A differing opinion != disloyalty.
mmurrbles
Really? have you been watching too much Rocky and Bullwinkle?
IAmCheops
You haven't been paying attention have you?
ElectroluxType2
Its as if Divide and Conquer was what Russia wanted all along... hmm... Listening works better than speaking to find common ground. :)
ItTastesLikePurple
Russia wanted someone who would be soft on their bullshit, not a "divide and conquer" of America
Dagordae
No, divide and conquer is exactly what they wanted. The greatest threat to America is America. Nobody else can touch us but prod us just
Dagordae
right and our nation will rip itself apart in self righteous fury. It's an old tactic, one we have used quite a few times.
IronicUsername
Yeah, why can't we all just band together in unity to support a president with increasingly likely ties to Russia? Sure, the white [1]
bwchronos
Disliking the president and uniting over intelligent discourse in spite of our differences aren't mutually exclusive.
IronicUsername
house is letting Russian diplomats break the rules with impunity, giving classified into to Russians in meetings our press is barred [2]
IronicUsername
from, and attempting to halt sanctions against Russia for attempting to interfere with our Democracy but we need unity guys! We [3]
IronicUsername
shouldn't acknowledge that our President seems to have no interest in the fact that Russia interfered and is currently trying to gather [4]
habanero
I agree with the message but Cons have controlled Congress since 2010, have controlled Senate since 2014. They control everything right now.
IOnlyUseSmallCaps
Oh wow, let's point out that one part of the government is controlled be one political party, but ignore that another is the opposite party.
IOnlyUseSmallCaps
Not actually parties but whatever
IOnlyUseSmallCaps
Also perfect example of downvoting into oblivion, but whatever
seppdietrich
Genuinely curious: what are you talking about? House, Senate, White House: all are Republican-controlled right now.
IOnlyUseSmallCaps
But you were not referring to right now.
seppdietrich
Not my original comment. But the current situation is relevant, don't you agree? He wasn't "conveniently ignoring" it.
IOnlyUseSmallCaps
I missed your last sentence, but in point still holds. I just hope that conservatives will be able to get something done for once this time.
VoltageXL1
It literally said "Right now" LOL
IOnlyUseSmallCaps
Wow, thanks for mocking me when I made a simple mistake that does not effect in point one way or another.