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Nov 23, 2016 3:51 AM
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oratoriotangram
Oh George
GregorSamsa
Back? Dis you leave? Who even are you?
WisconsinHome
He may not of use the word conversion, but we all know what he meant
nipplepanties
I am ok with this.
tehhehrc
Nice username.
Bortus
Isnt Pence the really homophobic fella'?
DonnaNobleHasLeftTheLibrary
Heliolost
I don't think the state should dictate psychological treatments, and while I would never support a parent making a child do this, 1/2
shhep
Being gay isn't curable, as it isn't illness. Conversion shouldn't be allowed, because people that go through it, end up requiring medical
shhep
and psychological help. It fucks you up. And fucked up people can't work and pay taxes. Gvt is usually against people breaking themselves.
NOINOON
What's your stance on vaccinations?
Heliolost
an adult should have the right to find treatment anywhere, if they so chose.
NinjaFood
Agreed
SerialKitten666
Being gay isn't a mental illness/disorder. This is not a valid psychological "treatment" in any form. Religion does NOT belong in medicine.
thisworldisweird
Treatment for what?!?
LiterallyWorseThanHitler
I would agree, for treatments that have been shown to work and be not harmful. Conversion therapy is both useless and harmful.
JohnDoeisdead
*figurativelyworsethanhitler if this post is anything to go by :p
JohnDoeisdead
Comment*
LiterallyWorseThanHitler
No, I am literally worse than Hitler at being evil :P
WildBluntHickok
What if they're not gay just Jewish? Should they be allowed to take medical treatments to cure that too?
ButterfaceTaintClown
Strawman. This post specifically relates to Childhood.
MediaMuerte
The real joke is that you can read on Snopes how Pence didn't support electroshock therapy.
TrijezniMujo
electroshock therapy is actually helpful for some (real) diseases.
weliveinaspaceshipdear
You're thinking of severe depression. That's not the kind used in conversion therapy.
TrijezniMujo
No, it was against seizures of some kind. People voluntarily go for "shock" therapy (now tho irl it is different than portrayed in movies)
SherMattLockSmith
I'm sorry, where in this post does it even mention electroshock therapy? Oh that's right, nowhere cause it didn't fucking mention it.
AndresVargas
What is conversion therapy?
bobbynixon
Like you want an MP3 and you only have a wav
WonderWaage
It's torture used to make gay people kill themselves
guyfawks
Linked: Conversion therapy attempts to change someone’s sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual through psychological treatment
khora
A hoax.
Mavgurian
I guess the downvoters think you meant to say that C.T. does not exist, rather it not working and being non-sense.
khora
It's working for those who get paid.
AdrianAmato
Either religious therapy or shock therapy to "cure" lgbt people.
nanyatenyaa
And pence has openly supported and suggested it as an option, and has opposed legislation that prevents discrimination
AdrianAmato
Yeah I know :( he sucks.
AndresVargas
Thanks for the explanations guys & gals.
Odiin46
Barbaric biblical torture to gays
ASithInTraining
You like the cock you get the shock
TrijezniMujo
Sooo, shock most women then?
theimgurappsucksballs
There's a t-shirt slogan in that, somewhere
wysmith777
You like the dong you get zapped on
TrijezniMujo
Kinky.
Mrflufikins
Well yeah except the "patients" don't get to have safe words
TrijezniMujo
Yup, life sucks and not in the good way either :/
Mrflufikins
It doesn't even swallow :(
IWasInThePool
People treat homosexuality like a disease that can be cured. They try to convert gay people to straight.
aleister94
David yost tried to do conversation therapy after leaving the power Rangers
fr1080f
I'm a recovered homosexual. It's not easy, but it's the right choice.
Cralus
You were probably always bi. S'up to you what you do man but there is no moral imperative to be straight.
Sttargh
This a joke?
theimgurappsucksballs
judging by the downvotes it's not being taken as one
fr1080f
I should have added a /s at the end.
Deathfrombelow
You should have just not said anything.
beergolem
Institutionalized religion pretending to be psychiatry, treating patients for a disorder that does not exist with methods that do not work.
akalien
It works but is just torture, trains their brain to associate gay attraction with pain.
akalien
It works but is just torture, trains their brain to associate gay attraction with pain.
akalien
It works but is just torture, trains their brain to associate gay attraction with pain.
Xalaqia
Tending to cause long term emotional trauma.
akalien
It works but is just torture, trains their brain to associate gay attraction with pain.
akalien
It works but is just torture, trains their brain to associate gay attraction with pain.
akalien
It works but is just torture, trains their brain to associate gay attraction with pain.
akalien
They work but it's torture. Trains there brain to correlate gay attraction to pain.
akalien
It works but is just torture, trains their brain to associate gay attraction with pain.
akalien
It works but is just torture, trains their brain to associate gay attraction with pain.
Camelspotting
You should probably go ahead and delete these.
akalien
Bloody hell, that was not supposed to happen
akalien
It works but is just torture, trains their brain to associate gay attraction with pain.
akalien
It works but is just torture, trains their brain to associate gay attraction with pain.
akalien
It works but is just torture, trains their brain to associate gay attraction with pain.
akalien
They work but it's torture. Trains there brain to correlate gay attraction to pain.
akalien
It works but is just torture, trains their brain to associate gay attraction with pain.
shhep
I, for one, upvoted all of this. It's hilarious, whatever the hell caused imgur to have stroke while you commented.
akalien
bloody hell that's not supposed to happen.
LargePenguin
I heard he never actually said anything about conversion therapy
lifeisshortsoshutthehellup
Pence, and similarly minded conservatives don't say it outright. It is heavily implied though. Considering the source it's a solid guess.
thisworldisweird
http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/jul/28/gavin-newsom/true-mike-pence-advocated-conversion-therapy/
johnzaku
"Resources should be directed toward those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior."
JeffreyDohmerWithAnO
It still is a somewhat crazy idea, but that quote seems to lack further context.
sexymeetzey
Yeah, not their sexual orientation. Pence wanted abstinence not conversion, look at his other legislation.
ichangedmyusernamebecauseiregretmyoriginaldecision
so gay people should just never have sex? hmmm
JeffreyDohmerWithAnO
See, that doesn't state that he's for forced orientation treatment. That quote implies the individual has made the choice to want to change
unefemmeingenieur
But it also says to redirect funds meant for treatment of HIV/AIDS to organizations that "treat" homosexuality. That's malicious.
Camelspotting
That's like saying "I want therapy because I blink occasionally." The act is natural and no doc would ever sign off on it.
JeffreyDohmerWithAnO
I'm not saying his proposal is ok, but that specific quote wasn't the greatest example since it leads you to believe he wants to give
JeffreyDohmerWithAnO
The individual the choice, which is not his intention.
ITalkAboutGoats
Yeah, cause that's not at all due to serious emotional pressure. Also these programs don't work, and tend to cause lasting emotional damage
JeffreyDohmerWithAnO
I agree. But the quote lacks the context of the forced aspect. This one makes it seem like the individual has all the decision making power
unefemmeingenieur
But it also says to redirect funds meant for treatment of HIV/AIDS to organizations that "treat" homosexuality. That's malicious.
JeffreyDohmerWithAnO
No it doesn't. The link does in previous comment from a different user, but that specific quote makes it seem like he wants to make it their
JeffreyDohmerWithAnO
choice if they want to change. When in reality that's not the case. All I was saying was the quote lacked full context to be relevant.
unefemmeingenieur
The resources alluded to in that quote are are resources that were earmarked for HIV treatment. I Agree the quote needs more context.
unefemmeingenieur
Or rather he should have used the full quote. It's right there in the campaign platform though, if anyone cares to look at it.
Sevett
The one thing I've seen is a statement from 2000. And maybe, possibly, if you read it one way, a bill passed in 2015.
MagicUmbrellas
You're wrong
TossABabyYodaToYourWitcher
TheFourthLaw
Just gonna hold onto this for later...
TheFourthLaw
The gif, that is.
Kiore
Meanwhile in Texas: http://www.houstonpress.com/news/state-senator-wants-texas-schools-to-out-gay-and-trans-students-to-parents-8959695
theimgurappsucksballs
that's fucked
WrongUn
Well, I don't know too much of the world but this Konni sounds like a fucking idiot.
phoenixmask
https://i.imgflip.com/ks6xr.jpg
shhep
I'm no lawyer, but that breaks UN Children's Rights convention. Which equates children to adults. Right to secrecy and privacy is mentioned
shhep
explicitely.
boyanthebard
Even without any laws, this is straight up horrible.
Tunaccat
I don't get it, I don't see that in the bill? http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/85R/billtext/pdf/SB00242I.pdf#navpanes=0
popejubal
TL;DR - school has to out the child because the parent has a "right" to that information according to that new law change.
popejubal
even if child or teacher/councilor/administrator believes that there would be serious negative consequences for the parent having info 2/2
popejubal
page 1, line 21 through page 2, line 19. School must notify the parents of all information about child even if the child objects and 1/2
Tunaccat
But it doesn't say that. It says "reports of behavioral patterns; and other records relating to the child ’s general physical, 1/2
Tunaccat
psychological, or emotional well-being"That doesn't sound like "If a teacher finds out their student is gay, they MUST TELL THE PARENTS" 2/2
popejubal
It might not sound like that to you, but when the TX attorney general and TX courts and DOE all decide that it means what the legislature1/2
popejubal
is saying that it means, then the fact that you think it means something else won't work as a defense. 2/2