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eightytwoeightytwoeightytwo
I'll take boom boom Russia for $200 Alex
Doismellbacon
Gryphonosiris
Unlike Russia, our military budget has been used to make some seriously kick-ass weapon system. The Ruskies are about to learn the hard way.
culturalrebel
Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.
wysisntwyg
Just goes to show what an amazing force for good the US can sometimes be. Google the lend-lease act.
Zainadin
DUDE the Paladin is going to WRECK!!!!
WeMistbornsNeedNotMakeSense
Prowler2142
As far as I'm concerned, all that shit was invented to fight the Russians anyways. I'm glad its getting used for self defense.
admiralawesome4213
russia is about to learn why we dont have universal healthcare in the US
HansJonsin
https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3261263/more-than-3-billion-in-additional-security-assistance-for-ukraine/
APrettyFdupOhLaLa
And..these are spares. They have more. They are making more. There are even other weapons and vehicles more menacing. These is so much more
ScottNapalm
Yeah this is basically outdated spares we had in storage, and it's still some heavy shit
JustaSimplePlumber
I hope it all came with a single note attached: “make it rain”
MrPoopcicle
Was gun crew on an M109A6 can confirm those paladins will indeed make it rain.
historycat
This deciding you have too much crap in your house but think a garage sale isn't worth the effort so you give stuff away to a college kid.
FlintNorth44
Remember...NO RUSSIAN.
vladimirtheliberator
Those Bradley's about to fuck shit up
CgnCalling
If the Leopard 2‘s are leaving anything to be fucked up
Noahbalboa82
Combine Ukrainian military excellence and Russian incompetence, you might be right
8FootedAlgaeEater
hahaha!
Thispostisaboutacat
Can not wait to read about what those Bradleys are going to do.
darabbit
Man I really need to pick up some Lockheed Martin and Raytheon stock
AutoFox
And this is a drop in the bucket. We can keep sending them this shit for years, there are massive stockpiles of retired and/or stored >>
AutoFox
>> munitions and vehicles.
TheUtahn
And the military industrial complex slept soundly.
comacomacomacomachameleon
how convenient that Russia decided to invade right after indefinite supply Afghan contracts were being terminated
Wubbalubbadubdubb101
Sleeping? They're still partying, doing blow and banging prostitutes.
Huor
Gotta get some MBTs in there. Uncle Fritz gotta come through with some goddam Leopards.
TurdBurglar3000
Why not Abrams, Leclerc or Challengers?
Huor
Abrams too heavy, Leclerc too few. Challengers would be good, if they’ve been maintained.
Panzerkeks85
There are hundreds of Leo 2 readily available. Allmost all sales since the 90s come from former German and Dutch stocks.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
Wish they were M3 Bradleys rather than M2s but that is a juicy package nonetheless.
Jamroast
They don't have the command and control needed, it is excessive for them, M2A2's are perfect.
itsallaboutthecones
Do you prefer the M3 for the addition the TOW missiles? I didn't know the difference so looked them up.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
Well it's mostly in role. The M2 is an APC, meant to bring a squad of infantry to combat. The M3 is a highly mobile scout platform.
ElbowDeepInUserSub
They are very very similar in most aspects, other than the role that they play. So I don't know, maybe they asked for APCs.
Athol
I could see that, because it's let the UA phase out their Soviet-era BMPs which would both further reduce the risk of 'Blue-on-Blue'
Athol
and increase surviveabilty, as even when they were new BMPs were considered death traps in combat.
LogicDude
Do you mean "additional"? Because the M2 has a dual TOW launcher.
itsallaboutthecones
Yes, I did mean additional.
Jamroast
Many of the M2's have been getting the turret pulled in order to maximize troop capacity.
Jamroast
Not to mention the maintainence time goes way down with no weapons systems.
LogicDude
There's no removal of turrets from any Bradleys in the US Army. You've likely seen pics of the AMPV which is a new vehicle based on the 1->
Thajurriesexcuesed
If they're using it to kill Russian soldiers, then it's a bargain!
Vendura
Thewayofthebear
They had that just laying around. You lot are ridiculous.
DirtyFiveThirty
you know there are some fun things laying around in the desert . 40.153630, -120.127723
tyr2180
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Eiladar
Lying around? I'm pretty sure this is just stuff we needed to get rid of because we ran out of storage space.
Eiladar
Vis a vis; 138 Humvees. 138. Not 135. Not 140. Oddly specific 138.
Hammertulski
10 12-packs and an 18-pack. Yes, I used to drink heavily.
matthias451
This ain't shit. We got thousands of Bradley's and Abrams alone just sitting in motor pools in the desert just "in case." This is nothing
Delathi
It's old and out of date, and still better than what Russia has left.
RandomGuy12345678910
Not just laying around. This is excess, almost out of date equipment that won't even be missed
ScottNapalm
Yeah I'm a little surprised to hear we still had any M113s around at all
GadenKerensky
M113s are pretty good vehicles. Old and not suited for combat duties, but pretty good because they're basically boxes. Good for modification
RandomGuy12345678910
I'd guess some guard unit just begging to get rid of them.
AutoFox
We stared down the USSR for almost 50 years, and our preferred strategy for victory was to out-spend them. We have absolutely MASSIVE >>
AutoFox
>> stockpiles of stuff we basically only built to piss off the Soviets, and which cost us too much to justify throwing out. Now at least >>
AutoFox
>> it's all being used to do the things it was all designed to do! Namely, fight a land war in Europe against Russia.
Ilikedyourimage
We've made all that stuff and kept in cold storage so long for this exact purpose. A protracted land war with Russia
Thewayofthebear
That's Hilarious
TheSecondPiewackit
This is a General wanting to get rid of some hand receipts. This is like less than half a Brigade Combat Team.
TheSecondPiewackit
Jesus "less than half" this is enough for a couple thousand people. Oh shit wait... that's ~2000 Ukrainians rocking American Steel.
JohnnyLawlessEsq
Feels a bit like a weird light cavalry regiment with no tanks. I wonder if some of those 113s are mortar carriers.
TheSecondPiewackit
IDK. MTG and the like want to bitch about how much we're giving them... this is honestly probably going to save us money on maintenence.
JohnnyLawlessEsq
MTG embodies Samuel Clemens' quip, "Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself."
CrazedDrifter
Look, if the Pentagon doesn't spend its annual budget this year, they can't get a *bigger* one next year.
Yupurineutah
Capitalism 101
JohnnyLawlessEsq
1) Look, multiple generations of U.S. combat equipment was designed for the sole purpose of killing Russians. I’m not saying Russians should
JohnnyLawlessEsq
2) be killed or deserve to be killed, but that *is* what it was designed for, and we built a hell of a lot of it.
PineappleLoopsBroether
We really need healthcare and so many other priorities, but America is 12 corporations in a trench coat made to dominate the world by force.
lightfoot2
Sounds like the makings of a hell of a party.
paragraph
A guy could go to Dallas and have a good time with all that
pianostacatto
Man, everything is happening in Texas and it really does make me jealous! Heck, the Astros won the World Series there last year!
whitewater0034
Want to point out to everyone that Putin is dying and we are giving his enemies the means, lets hope he does not decide to take us with him.
alienInvader999
To a dictator everyone is an enemy.
RhymingEverything
Just need to make sure it ends up in the right hands, I have heard stories of rampant corruption within the Ukrainian military
RhymingEverything
I don't understand the downvotes, ARE YOU FOR CORRUPTION?!? (or do you take "let's try to do this right" as being against Ukraine?)
lightfoot2
Yeah, those just started coming out this week. Funny that......
RhymingEverything
https://youtu.be/TCbD4WBqPg4 not meant as a political statement, I watched this video a month ago, forget what part he talks about corruptio
Pentjotal
I've heard...the best reference after i've seen a FB video.
RhymingEverything
https://youtu.be/TCbD4WBqPg4 (the corruption bit might be in part 3)
secretoaster
Hell. Yeh...
TieflingDelivery
Paladins were what I was trained on, mobile artillery built like a tank. Loooong range. Many ammo types.
TieflingDelivery
Can fire 4 rounds 24 km in a minute and roll away.
HiddenSanity
Yup, very good way to say 'hi' to the Russian army
SometimesOthertimesAnytime
Is there a source for this?
qtRaven
America baby!
jrobertdobbsjr
Hulkbest.ytmnd.com YUP still have it memorized ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
qtRaven
I have it on my workout playlist.
StandUpYoda
Is there money for this?
firefighter26
It's the American military; they pretty much get a blank cheque to run with. Besides, it clears out a lot of aging stock and materials.
DaveSamsonite
There’s always money in the banana stand.
zerosava
There's ALWAYS money for killing folks. Helping folks, now that seems to be much, much more difficult for some reason. (spoiler alert: ->
zerosava
that reason is republicans who think that only rich white people matter. And rich people don't need free healthcare.)
Maxgaap
More debt and an unbalanced budget
LiberalViking
These are aging surplus supplies that would expire soon. We're not building and sending new things. This is recycling.
Maxgaap
Thank God someone thought of the defense CEOs, they can all afford third yachts because we'll be replacing all of this prematurely axed gear
pixelsnader
Reduce reuse reconquer.
HypersonicHero
If you didn't do these things it would make almost no debt in the deficit. Which by the way decreased substantially under Biden
Maxgaap
https://amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/10/21/politics/deficits-debt-joe-biden/index.html?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp
HansJonsin
https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3261263/more-than-3-billion-in-additional-security-assistance-for-ukraine/
RAJrios
MVP
SometimesOthertimesAnytime
Thanks!
DuckPlanetKing
*Tanks
plutonium
Unfortunately not.
Requiem1309
GadenKerensky
On the Sea Sparrows, they were designed to be launched from ships. The Ukrainians, using some fucking Slavic Black Magic, put them on Buks.
Feralkyn
The Ukrainians have done some CRAZY resourceful shit with weaponry. The Pentagon's actually studying what they're doing w/ drone warfare rn,
Feralkyn
because coordinated military actions with 500+ drones in the air are apparently not uncommon atm and it's nothing the US has ever done. They
Feralkyn
*supposedly* also used a modified remote-controlled fucking *Jetski* to DRIVE a drone within firing range of a Russian mainland base that
Feralkyn
would've been out of range on its own, as a sort of remote launch platform. Insane stuff.
qtRaven
Russia's about to find out why Americans don't have healthcare.
FeedTheRats
*Been done
QuietAsADemonsWhisper
OMG you fucking nailed it!!!???
Arkenov
Healthcare would cost effectively nothing but legislative costs when you consider how much we're already footing
ProppaGanda
US would literally save money on Universal Healthcare that it could then put into the military budget.
Sacrelicious
I may be drunk and high, but this is one of the funniest/realest things I've ever read.
solopeace
We kill our own citizens so we can afford to slaughter anyone that might try to kill us.
wiltsjunk
Yeah its the one thing we do well
Gaelwyn
Eh. We don’t really. We have a ton of former soldiers with debilitating issues from their service. If we did it well we’d take care of them.
wiltsjunk
Yeah you're right. I meant specifically buying military equipment
Madderrs
Golden Comment.
JurgenWindcallerz
While I love the joke, you Americans really deserve healthcare. Even if that means Europe pays more for its protection.
Elsuave
As an European, I angrily agree
BrdCdn
1/ They already spend more gov money on Healthcare per capita than a universal system. Europe does need to start taking defence spending
BrdCdn
2/ seriously however. Germany's readiness levels are pathetic. Ships tied up at port with no crews, planes broken down with no pilots.
JurgenWindcallerz
I’m German and I couldn’t agree more. The state of our military is pathetic.
Mr21782Man
And this is all ancient surplus equipment. I wouldn't be surprised if its older than Zelensky.
thefeckamisigningupwithfacebook
Ah. You mean the stuff that is ‘about a generation younger than 90% of the stuff the Russians are using’ then?
Mr21782Man
Two generations
GeneralPrower
The Zuni rocket system was retired from front-line service in the 90s.
INeverWaitForIt
Funnily enough, America could have universal healthcare and still keep its runaway military budget.
Shaodyn
But anytime someone suggests that, everyone yells "Communism!" until they shut up.
Elsuave
Irak war was worth 75 years of universal healthcare. Probably more
CongratsYouAreHereNow
I’m all for those Wagner dorks getting their dicks blown off, but I’m not going to celebrate innocent Russian conscripts getting blown up,
CongratsYouAreHereNow
But I am happy ukraine will be able to better defend itself. It’s not their fault those kids are getting conscripted
BrdCdn
1/ The innocent Russian conscript myth is up there with the clean wehrmacht myth. Lots of the atrocities are carried out by conscripts.
BrdCdn
2/ The videos you see of Conscripts complaining about going to war, if you read the translations, they are just mad their equipment sucks.
BostonThighnamics
*sad Universal Healthcare Soldier noises*
Snarklepuff
We could have the most generous per-capita universal healthcare in the world and still pay less than we do now.
DickMercenary
Yeah but insurance companies don't want it and they have the money to bribe.. i mean 'lobby' to keep it this way.
drcookieninja
Then how will they keep the poor people hungry and desperate enough to kill brown people on the other side of the planet?
MotherEffinSatan
Because here in the U.S., "corporations are people."
ExTechOp
I do hope there are proper plans for comprehensive training for Ukrainians, as equipment isn't very useful without it.
FellaWithUmbrella
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2022/12/15/us-to-begin-training-hundreds-of-ukrainian-troops-every-month/
bourbonandbaddecisions
Goddamn.
icbkr
TBF, Russia doesn’t have much of a healthcare system either…
SpoilsburyToastMan
This is the Russian healthcare system in action. They're reducing their own population so it costs less.
PhailRaptor
Yes, but for completely different and unrelated reasons
factcheckmate
Corruption in education and infrastructure systems
blindlynx
'Corruption and oligarchs' sounds like the same reasons
clumsygoat
I would rather break my arm in Russia than the USA. I would be less scared about my future in a Russian hospital.
madeejit
Russia's about to get more than their arm broken.
Mindshard
Yeah, at least there you know you'll "fall out the window", in the US they string you along!
TakeAChillPill16
In Soviet Russia, ARM breaks YOU.
loononHHL
Have fun fighting on the front lines with one arm
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
That's a big list. I'm glad the US is being a good ally to Ukraine.
zerosava
Compared to what we really could give them, we are barely even wishing them good luck. Good news, a under armed and funded military that ->
zerosava
is emotionally invested usually has little trouble with Russia outside of Russia. Wikipedia search "Winter War"
SputterSpark
As a nurse routinely caring for that generation of Finns it wasn't a fair fight for the poor Soviets, those people are bulletproof.
GravyEducation
Time to find out why we don't have Healthcare
JustBoone
That's nothing, we could send triple that and it would barely amount to a % of the amount we buy yearly for home defense. USA USA!
VibratingNipples
The problem is that we will run our stock supply dry at this rate in a year or two. We need to be making more to keep up with demands. 1/2
lronMaiden
That's mostly old stuff that was already sitting in surplus storage/mothballed. You underestimate how much money USA spends in weapons
zxwaffen
That list isn't really running any stock dry, it's almost all older. They've been given very little new hardware.
VibratingNipples
We just don’t have enough factory’s open to mass produce ammo and vehicles.
VibratingNipples
When war break out with China, we won’t have enough to defend Taiwan with. Kinda worrying