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itsawerewolfbarmitzvah
I predict feminism being broken down into extremist semantics so dudes online don't have to consider how others feel about the world.
mcbubba12321
Simpsons...so hot right now...Simpsons
khaleesidany
What the hell is going on Imgur? There's been 5 of these circlejerk posts on the front page today
Donexize
...http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/dead-horse.gif
Sterkmann
???
MysticJoJo
Anita Sarkeesian used exactly this argument in her video series, I think in the "women as decoration" vid. "The subject-object dichotomy."
jacquesrobespierre
Not feminism*
Quigonjinnandjuice
What we should take away from this is that marge was a stone cold fox. Basically, I'm saying "The ass was fat"
kelpsie
But seriously though, college Marge was bangin'.
blameitonmyjuice
"I miss you. And by that, I mean, 'I own you.'" - Me, to my boyfriend slave.
FaithAlone
This isn't feminism, this is a man manipulating a woman into sleeping with him because he believes she is dumb enough to fall for it.
shadowex3
this is pretty much word for word what feminists like amanda marcotte do.
FaithAlone
She manipulates women into sleeping with her?
shadowex3
She manipulates women using rhetoric like this.
FaithAlone
For what purpose? This guy did it for sex. What do women feminist do it for?
shadowex3
Power. Money. Fame. Self-aggrandizement.
shadowex3
Look at how obscenely rich Sarkeesian/McIntosh have gotten off of plagiarism lies and this kind of sophistry.
objectorbit
WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING
ldraptor
funny, it still reaches front page but all the top comments are calling out it's BS. I'm going to go with people just like Simpsons.
ChaosLierLen637
Because the usersub crowd thinks a lil differently & apparently in a less feminist manner than most Imgurians.
LinguisticBitch
What's with people posting stuff about feminism?
mrgills1993
People like this give feminism a bad name. Feminism is all about equality for both genders. This isn't feminism, it's insanity.
aramil31
This sort of thought process is what is being taught in colleges today. To see everything as systems of oppression against women.
mrgills1993
YOUR COMMENT HAS OFFENDED SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE. REPENT.
aramil31
I'm offended by their opinions. I require a safe space to be free from discussion and thoughts that I disagree with!
khaleesidany
This isnt even a person! Imgurians are really sinking low today
mrgills1993
What I was saying is that the attitude DISPLAYED here isn't feminism, it's the attitudes of an insane person. Calm yourself, friend.
khaleesidany
I know... I am calm... I'm adding to your point...
mrgills1993
LIAR. BE MORE CALM, RIGHT NOW. SEE HOW I'M DOING IT? CAPS LOCK IS CALMING, YES?
shadowex3
No true scotsman fallacy. funny how nothing bad is EVER feminism.
diabolicaljazz
Feminism is an ideology, and as such it can be logical to exclude certain ideological opposites and non-sequiturs.
shadowex3
Except you're still blamed as "antifeminist" for fighting those people.
diabolicaljazz
Not by everyone. I'm vehemently opposed to Cathy Brennan, for example, and only TERFs would call me antifeminist for that.
shadowex3
And Amanda marcotte?
plainoldfool
I can't believe I am about to dive into a feminist post (I swore I would never do this). Yes, I agree with many here who are saying (1)
plainoldfool
this is not feminism. It's not. However, there are folks with this kind of radical thought process that claim to be feminists. It (2)
plainoldfool
is not the responsibility of feminists to some how combat this extreme logic, but do realize it does exist, although extremely rare.
LinguisticBitch
This is friendzone attitude, not feminism.
thisisausernameyeah
There is a difference between "feminist" and "pessimistic asshole". Feminists have the radical idea that women are people too.
shadowex3
feminists have the "radical idea" that women are more than people and men are less than people.
thisisausernameyeah
Amy Poehler addresses that the best in Parks and Rec, Pie-Mary. I'm not even going to try. It's been done! By better minds than mine!
shadowex3
like vawa and "primary aggressor" and sb967 screwing men and male victims, even the harvard law review is covering their abuses and excesses
shadowex3
Amy poehler addressed fuck all. Feminists erase half of all rape and abuse victims, commit felonies to silence male victims, pass laws
thisisausernameyeah
No fucking way am I soapboxing with you in an imgur thread where no discernible good will come of it.
PieluverCaolan
bit of a leap to say that non-feminists don't think women are people
thisisausernameyeah
I suggest you look up the concept of "logical inverse", because you're doing it wrong.
itsawerewolfbarmitzvah
But people who can't take a joke, are too sensitive, looking for attention, or are making big deals out of nothing. As antifeminists say.
MildlyFictitiousStoryTeller
It's more, I think, the difference between what each deems important. Women being people are less important ideals that others being brought
PieluverCaolan
women are no more or less important than anyone else, I have never seen anyone dispute that women are people
MildlyFictitiousStoryTeller
I think words vs actions and interactions is the problem mainly. Not everyone is following your mindset
PieluverCaolan
and not everyone is following yours, try finding one person who doesn't think women are people in everyday life and you won't
SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE
I'd say most feminists are pessimistic assholes honestly. The fact that the $0.77/$1 ratio is brought up so much is proof of that
shadowex3
especially because its not nor has it ever been true, that figure was pure bad math from the very beginning. The death gap on the other hand
thisisausernameyeah
You wouldn't be an asshole if that ratio applied to you? It doesn't apply to me, but if it did, I'd be pissed about it.
SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE
The ratio is deceitful. That's the point. It's a study on overall gender income, not comparing two people of the same job/experience
NexiKuro
2/2 Meanwhile having a kid costs a woman a fuckton of money, both in expenses and lost income.
NexiKuro
One of the main reasons for the difference is that men don't get paternity leave and keep building experience. 1/2
BenSwol0
He is only saying this to get into her pants. Liek David Lee ROth said, "everybody wants some."
notmicrowavesafe
I don't even know why I bother anymore with this site; it's these shit posts on a daily basis nowadays.
diabolicaljazz
Seriously. Everyone's like "buh it's just a joke," but it's not even fucking funny (except in its original context. The Simpsons is funny.)
PicardShowerCap
yeah, imgur's feeling pretty damn one-sided lately. I'm gonna move on.
induren
Oh my god deconstructionism. God oh god no. I thought that shit was dead.
yogurtisthespawnofsatan
It's like griffin. We think it dies but it's reborn from the ashes. But not so majestic.
pancakesplatter
That's a phoenix.
KeithESS
Who are the troll people who post this stuff and upvote it? What bridges do you call home?
PyroBeast
Guys hes trying to break them up. This is completely unrelated to feminism...
JesseJames18241
They don't care, they just don't care.
GridCube
i dont think you know what the word feminism means op
shadowex3
Everyone knows what the dictionary says. The problem isn't the dictionary, the problem is the real world.
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all of those
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kindsoberandfullydressed
Feminism carries w/ it a horrible connotation most of the time, b/c as w/ many groups, the ones we note are the horrible, uneducated 1/2
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extremists who don't actually understand that feminism is plainly about equality and not about being better than men. Which is why 2/?
kindsoberandfullydressed
Many will hesitate to call themselves a feminist. Women/self-proclaiming feminists who disregard other groups (such as men) are NOT 3/?
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GridCube
and do you think any of those apply to op's picture? i think not
ElementOfConfusion
No one does anymore.
Moocat
Thanks to associating bullshit like this with it.
madisunmadeit
not since the accident
GridCube
that, is probably true
TheWayADrillWorks
Username is relevant
roonmian
As if that wouldn't stop him and people like him.
AustinTOth
He is saying that is how extreme feminists think... How is that hard to understand?
khaleesidany
Please don't use The Simpsons to bash feminism, it really feels wrong and dirty.
treadwords
The great thing about the Simpsons is that it is so irreverent that you could use it to bash anyone.
wifeaggro
I'm sorry you think this is feminism.
Jrex42
Especially since they've used Lisa's character to make some really awesome points for feminism. But this kind of stuff goes over op's head
SliceofLife309
Imgur has more feminist strawmen than Gloria Steinem's corn field.
shadowex3
a straw man by definition is not real. Because there are not only real people like this but real people that are very popular
shadowex3
by definition this can not be a straw man.
ChaosLierLen637
That's true, but labeling what's depicted as representative of the whole feminist concept isn't accurate either.
shadowex3
Sarkeesian/McIntosh literally just got piles of cash for doing exactly this.
roelleinad
No....this is feminism: /a/9x0aL
gettotheslapchoppah
I really thought it was gonna be the hulk triggered gif :(
ImAlwaysContentWithCatContent
too much thinking .. gives us wrinkels *hihi hihi*
Khakestar23
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/mnhjb-GSw5o/hqdefault.jpg
LordofGoats
Hey, that was actually feminism and not a joke about feminism! Huzzah!
randomfolkart
Harrumph!
bpsquid
This is the part where the mic drops.
killfire
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/dwifOuuMkfo/hqdefault.jpg
kittyskittles
Yes thank you!
sozensloth
I love this episode... I don't remember how it ends?
ImAlwaysContentWithCatContent
lisa develops lisa lioanheart doll, but then malibu stacy comes with a new hat and everybody buys that one instead of the clever one
signer94
That made me sad ):
NexiKuro
Oh for fucks sake, the Simpsons did TF2's hat meta? Goddamn you Matt Groening! Goddamn you all to hell!
reijigin
Simpson's did it!
PlutoIsSoAPlanet
Except for one girl who buys Lisa's doll, implying change is difficult and slow, but that doesn't mean it isn't meaningful.
roelleinad
Good guy Matt Groening
MisterM069
+1
weirdpuppy
That makes me want to cry :(
isthisnecessary
I think you missed the point of this. I think it drove right past you and didn't even slow down.
NewtonWren
Looked out the window and sped up a bit.
applejackcrunch
Not surprising with the name of @wizardking though.
Moocat
This isn't feminism. Why do you say these things?
shadowex3
no of course not nothing bad or criticisable is ever feminism. funny how that works.
beejabah
thx
LtCmmdrData
bc, like fox news, these people don't care about definitions. more so in trying to prove a false point? (or in this case an outdated joke)
NexiKuro
More about getting them sweet add revenue/imaginary internet points.
ComeOnAndSlam
The thing is, the definition of feminism is *extremely* volatile and subjective. Extremists and moderates both use the term, but neither can
ComeOnAndSlam
be clearly, absolutely determined to be false, because it's an idea open to a range of interpretations. It's like religion in that sense.
DasOgre
There was a feminist Ted talk where this very idea was discussed. So, this is feminism to some
Moocat
There are a lot of bullshit Ted talks.
treadwords
It's a joke.
beejabah
I mean, truthfully, this is what feminism has become
Halfpintprissykitty
No
beejabah
Yes
fatsthankstodominoes
Cock Block Carl
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
For me if a woman wants help to fix a relationship I am there. If she wants help out of one I can help with that too. I might be a douche./2
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
but I don;t try to convince them either way. I just offer what I can on whichever way they want to go.
TheManYourManCouldSmellLike
Carlquan.... Fuck you, Carlquan...
iLynux
Cock block, Coral.
Rindin101
Filing this away for later use.
VitaminJay
I thought that was the Dean of Women's Studies...
BuckBoost
So Dick Block Dean?
VitaminJay
Dean Dick Block. :D
kanyebest
That's not Carl, Carl is cool and black
FearlessFapper
Mess with the best, die like the rest
KrisKringlez
That isnt Carl Carlson
blainetog
This isn't feminism. This is an asshole trying to manipulate someone into sleeping with him.
BlueWolf159
It’s a cartoon actually
liliputian7
that's the JOKE friend
TheCornDogger
Thank you captain obvious! you have saved us yet again!
shadowex3
This is pretty much how feminism works these days.
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SirPercy
...no shit.
blainetog
Should be obvious but the title apparently begs to differ.
Hattersin
This is the general reasoning today within first world feminism.
OkramTheBarbarian
Feminism
killer10347
Nah, it's pretty much modern feminism. Trying to find sexism in places it doesn't exist.
howyougonnaripitlikethisson
So like the opposite of feminism, because people fark at the end?
lolalupe
Just like my ex boyfriend. :(
shitduke
Yeah! these days feminism is assholes trying to manipulate someone into shutting up and changing their art/movie/games to fit their ideology
misskittyamazing
That's the joke...or at least that's how I'm taking it.
NotSoSmartAlek
It basically is what happens in the show.
thegrrlnextdoor
OP doesn't seem to know that.
TheHypestShit
It's how the writers intended it, but it's not how OP's taking it.
JesseJames18241
It is, the episode is a whole 90s parody about how Marge almost left Homer for this college professor. Homer also invented Grunge aparrently
misskittyamazing
Oh I know and remember the epsiode well. I just said it like that because people seem to want to get offended, but then again, Internet...
JesseJames18241
This great/terrible thing called internet. Your intentions could be anything if not clearly spelled out and even then.
misskittyamazing
Even then...
importvita
You'll take it however HE tells you to take it! *runs for cover*
misskittyamazing
I mean can he at least buy me a steak dinner first? And not Outback Steakhouse, like $200 dinner steakhouse.
importvita
I mean, if that's all it takes I'm available. :)
misskittyamazing
I get the feeling if I agree to this, the sex will be had in a van and not a proper apartment or house.
fuzzyjew
No ... This is the Simpsons.
ultrapwnd
No this is patrick
thegrrlnextdoor
When a guy tells me he's a feminist, my internal skeve detector pings. If he tells other guys he's a feminist? That's a good sign.
Corin
I make sure to tell other guys I'm a feminist so that women won't get suspicious. Works a lot of the time.
shadowex3
When a guy tells you he's a feminist he's trying to suck up to his gods. When he tells other guys he's a feminist he's being a kapo.
ComeOnAndSlam
whats a kapo
shadowex3
Google it.
grantavius
It's similar to when a used car salesman tells you "I'm an honest guy"
RoomTemperatureCoffee
Because it is a reasonable assumption that any man who says something about himself has a manipulative agenda and this only applies to men.
afterdinneromelets
I agree, if the guy's bringing it up out of nowhere like it's impressive or admirable. If it comes up while we're on the topic, it's fine.
KosherToaster
Or he sincerely holds the far fetched idea of gender equality. But yeah your jaded skepticism works too.
ashleypomeroy
You have to wonder why he would make a point of it. It's like saying "I'm not racist"; it implies that you don't have faith in your actions.
RoomTemperatureCoffee
No one ever said that it came out of the blue. Even in that case, it could be just as good as any other conversation topic.
PastaIsLife
Not unless it comes up in the conversation.
Malkiot
I'm for gender equality, but I'd never call myself feminist because feminism gives off a bad vibe.
RoomTemperatureCoffee
This, because the word "feminism" immediately suggests the exclusion of one gender despite all claims of neutrality.
Malkiot
Also many things being pushed in the name of feminism aren't for equality but are just plain discrimination against men.
djrip
I'll just be for gender equality, which is what feminist means, and not worry about what other people who call themselves feminist are doing
DapperDanAdoresYou
Pretty certain that is the ENTIRE point, Mr. Literal
blainetog
I know that, and you know that, but the OP apparently doesn't know that.
Tavarain
Well, ACTUAL feminists make the "Object/Subject" argument, so it's apparently surprisingly accurate.
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
3) If there's no RIGHT answer, you can't blame men for using one or the other. That said, again, language CAN matter. Just not here.
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
2)... for feminists, in that you're either making the woman the object, or you're "forcing" her as subject into the framework set by men.
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
1) Language used CAN influence how we think and perceive (colors/directions would be exemplars here). This particular argument is a problem
khaleesidany
Awful lot of Anti-feminist circle jerking on the front page today...
shadowex3
is Ayaan Hirsi Ali an antifeminist? Amanda Marcotte? Malala? Cathy Brennan? The phrase antifeminist is so broad its meaningless.
diabolicaljazz
Cathy Brennan is a piece of shit is all I know. Feminism that throws trans people under the bus is bullshit.
shadowex3
And yet Cathy Brennan is still a feminist. So is Amanda Marcotte. So is Meghan Murphy.
diabolicaljazz
Sortof a moot point. There's a distinction to be drawn between other feminists and TERFs, and an important one.
shadowex3
Marcotte isn't a TERF, but i'm still an antifeminist for opposing her despicable views.
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shadowex3
The term antifeminist is meaningless, it is nothing more than mccarthyism. its a witch hunt word. a scarlet letter. pure ad hominem.
shadowex3
Irrelevant, They are all diametrically opposed in their views. They can't ALL be feminist because they believe polar opposite things.
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shadowex3
Acids can not be bases, black can not be white, red can not be blue.
shadowex3
antifeminist is meaningless as a word because opposing cathy brennan's criminal hate group is as antifeminist as opposing malala.
shadowex3
Again they can not all be feminist anymore that black can be white and white can be black. they are all diametrically opposed to one another