1326 pts ยท January 15, 2013
Hello, come say hi. "You can't take the sky from me"
You win
I'm away at uni and I can no longer drink Banks's =(
Out of all the aliens in Avatar you have to pick one that's not actually an alien?
There is a problem if they don't feel that they will be believed. There's an even bigger issue with the fact they may be right.
Victims do not come forward because they don't think they will be believed and may even be accused of lying. Thus the rape goes unreported.
No I didn't. I also made it clear my issue was with the image not the title.
How not being inclined to believe rape victims, will make it harder to report/convict rape? How is that not "actually explaining"?!
You said, "In fact, the caption says the opposite." Which we have just worked out is not true. I never claimed the title meant, "common."
So because it *might* be more than a few percent, it's acceptable to treat a woman reporting a rape as a possible suspect?
That negates the many men and women who have had a deaf ear turned to their rape claims how?
I know. But the fact that a poster exists suggests that the rate is high enough to warrant it. That is why I have an issue with it.
No. I'm saying that treating all rape victims like there's a high chance they're lying is a bad thing.
No I'm really not.
I'm not talking about in court. I mean when it's reported. Thinking there's a decent change she's lying is going to make it harder to report
No one is denying that.
What?
Real victims find it harder to be believed because people have that view because they think it's common. And that is the issue.
Rape already has very low reporting/conviction rates. Putting extra suspicion on victims just makes that even worse . That is how it's bad.
"Not always true" does not mean, "Rare". It just means not 100% of the time. You might want learn how words work.
I'm on about the actual image that is being posted, not the caption, (which doesn't actually say the opposite.)
Suspicion when it's being reported is a bad thing and it makes the victim less likely to report.
No. Promoting belief that this is common leads to being automatically suspicious of anyone reporting a rape in case they're lying.
I'm genuinely not there is a big problem with how rape victims are treated. My point is that posts like this only make a bad situation worse
Posting promotes the idea that it's something that is common, whether it says so or not. Then people will not trust rape victims.
The fact that it's posted promotes the idea that the rape victims should be regarded with suspicion and doubt.
Thinking this is common leads to disbelieving rape victims. Thinking I'm trolling because I pointed out you're bad at statistics is moronic.
No I'm not. I'm saying treating this like it's more common than it is, promotes not believing rape victims, which allows rapists to go free.
You are casting suspicion on all rape victims because of one person you know and others that you "heard" of, and I'm the one out of touch?
In court. A rape victim shouldn't be treated with suspicion when they're reporting the crime in the first place.
I'm not claiming that it doesn't. Just that it's rare and that treating it like it's common only harms the victims and helps the rapists.
You win
I'm away at uni and I can no longer drink Banks's =(
Out of all the aliens in Avatar you have to pick one that's not actually an alien?
There is a problem if they don't feel that they will be believed. There's an even bigger issue with the fact they may be right.
Victims do not come forward because they don't think they will be believed and may even be accused of lying. Thus the rape goes unreported.
No I didn't. I also made it clear my issue was with the image not the title.
How not being inclined to believe rape victims, will make it harder to report/convict rape? How is that not "actually explaining"?!
You said, "In fact, the caption says the opposite." Which we have just worked out is not true. I never claimed the title meant, "common."
So because it *might* be more than a few percent, it's acceptable to treat a woman reporting a rape as a possible suspect?
That negates the many men and women who have had a deaf ear turned to their rape claims how?
I know. But the fact that a poster exists suggests that the rate is high enough to warrant it. That is why I have an issue with it.
No. I'm saying that treating all rape victims like there's a high chance they're lying is a bad thing.
No I'm really not.
I'm not talking about in court. I mean when it's reported. Thinking there's a decent change she's lying is going to make it harder to report
No one is denying that.
What?
Real victims find it harder to be believed because people have that view because they think it's common. And that is the issue.
Rape already has very low reporting/conviction rates. Putting extra suspicion on victims just makes that even worse . That is how it's bad.
"Not always true" does not mean, "Rare". It just means not 100% of the time. You might want learn how words work.
I'm on about the actual image that is being posted, not the caption, (which doesn't actually say the opposite.)
Suspicion when it's being reported is a bad thing and it makes the victim less likely to report.
No. Promoting belief that this is common leads to being automatically suspicious of anyone reporting a rape in case they're lying.
I'm genuinely not there is a big problem with how rape victims are treated. My point is that posts like this only make a bad situation worse
Posting promotes the idea that it's something that is common, whether it says so or not. Then people will not trust rape victims.
The fact that it's posted promotes the idea that the rape victims should be regarded with suspicion and doubt.
Thinking this is common leads to disbelieving rape victims. Thinking I'm trolling because I pointed out you're bad at statistics is moronic.
No I'm not. I'm saying treating this like it's more common than it is, promotes not believing rape victims, which allows rapists to go free.
You are casting suspicion on all rape victims because of one person you know and others that you "heard" of, and I'm the one out of touch?
In court. A rape victim shouldn't be treated with suspicion when they're reporting the crime in the first place.
I'm not claiming that it doesn't. Just that it's rare and that treating it like it's common only harms the victims and helps the rapists.