Jan 21, 2017 3:55 AM
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dizcostu
This is a stupid person's guide to ranting beyond their intelligence level.
SaintMaceToTheFace
He is right. When the dems try to make shit into a nanny state people get fed up.
yetanotherpsychstudent
I don't know about that... You had trump for 4 years and tbh I never saw anyone happy. I get the sense a lot of people are perma angry nmw.
PandaFoodMonster
ninjabot405
I am going to upvote this because I don't want to live in an echo chamber. It's not a good argument. I don't agree. I listened. It's wrong.
Many who or Dem don't think like you. There is a "listen to me for your own good" mentality there
WadaShami
It happened because the Democratic party rigged their primaries and let the worst candidate in History run against Donald.
ruckittothewest
All rational people agree that banning interracial marriage was racist. How is banning gay marriage not homophobic? Church and state, bitch.
Hoojamufasijer
An over-generalization of cherry-picked individuals whose views make it easier to disagree and hold a bias against the, "other side."
pickingaclevernameishard
This sentence could describes both directions equally (e.g., Republicans are Fox News).
stripeypurple3
You, sir, have just described the entirety of modern public discourse in one sentence.
ChesterCopperpots
I didn't do any of the things on this list and still didn't vote for Mr Trump
TommyRottn
Just because you are not a part of the problem, doesn't make you part of the solution.
You speak as if there is a clear solution. I'd love to be part of that
539 million people from almost literally the whole world of cultures and ideals coming together is as difficult of task as there is.
The biggest country in the EU (Germany 88 million) has only recently unified in 1989.
rockyhorrorisme
Another sad, little man who is unhappy he isn't being praised for just existing.
ThatDwarfWhoStealsYourOpinions
His whole argument is that people shouldn't be treated as special in a way that affects the freedom of others. Try harder, bud.
I think you need to think harder, sweetie.
seeingsalty
Me not wanting second hand smoke, or wanting to be able to marry who I want and receive the same rights as others, affects whose freedom?
Gay marriage is a tiny, irrelevant part of his argument, and if you don't like someone smoking in public, move. Not that oppressive.
If gay marriage is irrelevant, I shudder to think of how highly you might regard super-size sodas! And no, I won't move. Smoke travels. >
Gay marriage is not irrelevant. I'm just saying that gay marriage doesn't fit the argument he's trying to make.
< You move. You and your unhealthy habit don't own the space. You don't get to dictate the health of others with your garbage.
aleister94
This is a perfect assessment
YourThoughtsOnTransgenderIssuesAreReallyReallyImportantToMe
Oh goddammit, as a gay person, FUCK that gay marriage thing. Yes, opposing gay marriage is homophobic. Sorry if that offends you.
WhatAmIDoingHereIveGotWorkToDo
This is exactly why extreme right wing Marine Le Pen is scoring higher and higher in France. So much the same!
cptcr
post gets 354 upvotes... all top comments are trashing it and being dismissive. Is that called a microcosm?
kudichan
That isn't what a microcosm is. But it's pretty typical of politics on imgur; the top comments are usually people complaining about the OP.
And Russia helped a little bit.
RetConMan
With what? Technical indicators aren't exactly proof, and how is the timing of releasing condemning information worse than the information?
That is a little bit of help, and they didn't release any dirt on Trump or GOP. Don't tell me there wasn't any dirt on the other side.
hannagator
Because we wanted people to stop treating others like shit? Good try
seafirezero
also because the media was ridiculously anti-trump
NanoNago
It's almost as if he is objectively a fucking idiot
YouWillNotLikeThis
Do you guys still belive that?
And generally anti republican. Fox has so much power because everyone else hates the right
gorillaClutch
and yet they featured him every 10 goddamn seconds. cnn ran a story every time he fucking tweeted
Fahargo
because they thought it hurt him and the RNC. Give as much air time to the buffoon as possible so he's our easy competitor. Backfired fastaf
epipenis
Because they thought it would drive viewership and they would make money. Media outlets have that in mind first.
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
...I don't think sodas and smoking caused Trump to be elected...
The point is the left tried to make the government into your nanny to take care of you for your own good
Well the smoking one is kind of reasonable second-hand smoke isn't something that those people are exactly choosing so it needs restrictions
PotassiumLover
Yeah those two points were a bit stretched
I think you're missing the point
Grootality
Those were kind of red flags for me lol
badonkadon
The point was how people were concerned about little things
Soufange
Discrimination based on sexual orientation, religion, and skin color are little things? Hot damn, tell everyone protesting the muslim ban!
JamBarn
I'd elect goddamn Hitler if I meant I could drink a big gulp while smoking a lucky strike in public park. Hitler.
It's an example of trying to control peoples' lives.
Yep now Trump can get back to freedom instead of this petty shit, you know the kind that tells people who they can and can't marry.
I don't remember that being anywhere in his first 100 day plan.
see his supreme court nominees
beanblanket
Well if their poor life choices have such a significant impact on others then they should be controlled.
Boom. Thought police bullshit like that
QED
TotesNotTheNSA
How is some fatty drinking a soda going to have a significant impact on your life?
GymTinderLaundry
Healthcare costs. Obesity is expensive.
And now that is why healthcare shouldn't be government. It's a personal decision and no of your concern
In the long run, obesity is much less expensive than being healthy and living to 100.
Facebook rants are usually nonsense and I see that this was no exception
That is where you are wrong. This whole thing can be summed up as Repubs are fed up of thought police behaviors
RyeInACan
I beg to differ. As a Canadian with conservative-republican parents, these defined their reasonings to a Tee. They would have voted Trump.
I mean, obviously not all of these points applied, (Example, smoking outside) but the ones that did connect were ALL the points.
Voidkom
People seem to have no problem with them when they are from democrats.
Doesn't mean those aren't nonsense too. Maybe make your own decisions about what's stupid and what isn't instead of being reactionary.
EdMcBain
As a Democrat and tremendously anti-Trump (aka small fingered piss golem): This post is pretty much on point.
UncivilizedEngie
I didn't do any of these things, although I did call climate change deniers that because they deny climate change.
I guess you don't get a participation trophy then.
roscoirish
Trump happened because people voted for him...simple...America has confirmed what the world thought it always was...cheap and trashy
CariG
Yeah, I don't know how people aren't understanding this.
They can think what ever they like. Little bitches still run to us when shit goes wrong
blitz220
The only reason most of the country isn't in poverty is that they set the bar to be included to low. I live in N VA and 50k a year you ..
will be barely able to live here.
youcantbanmeimabadbitch
Do you plan on paying cat tax for this sob story?
IhaveAdogAndAnxiety
trollingworld
So asking people to eat healthy, stay healthy and respect others were a crime. Why do we need laws to stop blowing smoke at others face?
There's a difference between asking and telling.
NurseSlacky
Because mah freedoms. If I wanna smoke while pregnant, that's on me and my baby Cheeseburger Dale Jr., not you, city slicker.
People can still smoke and drink while pregnant. Also, fat people generally use fewer medical resources over their lifetime than others do.
Alright red. U smoke and let ur baby come out with some shit like down syndrome and u will end up with fucking cancer.Later expect1/3
Government to pay for ur treatment with our tax money.I dont care what you do to urself or ur baby in the privacy of ur trailer park.2/3
I wud love to have clean air to breath while i am outside. I dont want you to pollute it with ur ignorance.
That infringes upon my rights to pollute! Asshole!
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Whoosh?
ChloePrice
Yeah opposing equal rights for gays isn't homophobic... And denying climate change is not dangerous at all. Fucking moron.
boaja
calm down chole
Sonicdahedgie
You're embodying the point he's making. You've ignored the entire rant because of one or two sentences that happened to be contained in it.
Because we only have 140 characters here that are too little to dissect every detail of it. I can say tho, it all around seems backwards.
evildrcatfish
And behold, the very people described will now demonstrate what you've described at you, and see no irony in it. To the comments!
snipekill1997
Because saying that opposition to gay marriage is homophobic and stating that climate denialism is dangerous are both absurd right./s
Controlling hostile behavior won't correct those beliefs, only embolden them. You must teach and understand, not shame. 1/
The hateful, arrogant, self-serving methods of social justice convince no one, and are in turn causing a huge rise in conservatism. 2/2
It's pretty funny (and depressing) to see people personify this behaviour while also claiming that it's an alt-right strawman.
Yep
It's fucking spooky just how much of that is going on. "Oh so I shouldn't control what you do and believe even though you're wrong?"
Syriio
This seems to be shit talking hipsters and college liberals... the age group and locations of majority of Trumps voters would disagree
PaintedSlate
But they ARE mad that they heard about how people were saying these things.
Whose they? I don't understand what you're trying to say rephrase
They're mad, because people on the right told them people were saying these things, and they react as if it were a constant, growing threat.
Maybe I'm being obtuse but that clarified nothing, stop using ambiguous titles for the groups your discussing.
The people who voted for Trump on the basis of OPs arguments in light of the prior commenter's explanation. You need the context. On mobile?
Terwin94
Smoking in public is an infringement on my right to breathe :P The thought policing shit even pisses me off as a liberal.
OliverClothesoff70
What about farting? Should we pass anti-farting laws, too?
Asking the real questions +1
Farting is a natural bodily function, smoking can trigger asthma attacks and is generally worse for everyone around you than it is for you.
taxiviolence
If it has links to causing cancer and also sets off children's/ adult asthma
Buretsu
When you can get cancer from second-hand farts... yes, we can pass anti-farting laws.
GodEmperor0fMankind
What reason would you have for opposing gay marriage other than homophobia?
Religion. Good luck proving that your religion is more valid than someone else's.
Then that religion is homophobic.
peachiepie
If you're against it, even for religious reasons, it's still a dislike of gays or gay lifestyle. That's their own thing, but it can't...
You can be gay but to me by definition marriage is a man and a woman
And that's all well and good, but the state and fed government has to treat us all as equals. Their definitions are what matter to me. (1/2)
I'm okay w/ you not liking my marriage and calling it sin. I just want equal rights, despite someone else's beliefs. (2/2)
Impede someone else's right to marry and get all the other rights that come with it. They want to have secular, discriminatory beliefs...
Without the title, because homophobic doesn't sound so righteous. Ppl used to use religion as an excuse for hating interracial couples...
Too. If you hold the belief, own it, including the title it earns you.
lifeisshortsoshutthehellup
Because the DNC rammed a corrupt old bitch into the nomination. All this other crap is posturing. Because smoking in parks...
That people still belive that only proves that Trumps victory was a result of opinions being viewed as facts
anunpronounceablestringofcharacters
Well the issue is primary voters aren't representative of gen election voters resulting in two strongly disliked candidates. The DNC (1/?)
A. Writing a dissertation? B. Little chance of winning? C. Are you serious? Bernie would have beat trump easily.
Maybe, analysis is mixed on that subject. But that's not what I said, he would have lost handily to a mainstream republican.
race had one true opponent who stood very little chance in the general vs a traditional GOP candidate. While the GOP primary was a damn 2/?
circus/clown show with fucking jv debate stages. Chaos led to Trump's early lead and he rode the momentum (3/3).
Was banned? You're just as stupid as the people you're mocking.
But! Mah freedoms!
Braina77
I get what your saying but if you don't think shit like this contributed 30000 fuck it votes then your denying human nature.
TheMaXX37
30,000 votes was not the margin of victory. Also, you're* x2. Come on seriously?
ForALimitedTimeOnly
Banning smoking in parks is a good idea, who's upset about that ?
Honestly me. If I'm chilling smoking a cig I'm not bothering anyone if I'm out of the way
Ithinkthisishowimakeafakeaccountalso
I'm a smoker and I'm okay with this. I also agree with the $500 littering fine for people who throw their butts out the window.
Shukusatsu
'murricans.
CloudberryMoose
I don't mind no smoking zones, but please do provide zones to smoke in at least, no? I want to respect people, but I need a way to do so.
Idiots who think the world revolves around them, everyone else be damned.
dubone99
Brendan O'Neill
Me for one - I'm out fucking side. Pretty sure your car is putting out more carcinogenics than me.
valen00
Have you actually seen what cars are allowed to put out? I'd say you are quite incorrect there
GodEmperorOfImgur
People who like to smoke in parks?
DrStoeckchen
Wait, you seriously banned smoking in the park? wtf?
BleedEffect
I quit smoking and I'm not a fan of the smell but I am a fan of letting people do what they want within reason.
Yep, people can smoke with in reason, just as long as they don't make it another persons problem.
PennnnnyLane
Smokers.
Natsumori
The angry smoker who wrote this.
TheNudeJumper
I second this.
majortool
Canada here: Not sure I like the gun comments, either. I know this is a heated subject, but in Canada the police protect us. I like that.
Millillion
Libertarians and selfish smokers.
tommyfever
Most of those mentioned are "good ideas" but they infringe on the rights of free people. If smoking is bad make it illegal, not controlled.
People should be free to smoke in their homes, that's fine, just try not to bring it to other people.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
They tried that with alcohol...didn't really work out the way they thought it would...
And now you understand the role of government - once the people who voted for Her do as well, we might get somewhere better.
Notme68
I am. I don't smoke, but it is outside. That is a little much.
Second had smoke is just as bad as first hand. No one wants to hang out near a chemical dump, no one wants to go were people smoke, it's1
Unhealthy and people who smoke shouldn't just be allowed to spew nicotine everywhere, especially in a public place. Smoke at home.
BajaChicken
Second hand is not as bad as first. At certain levels it can still be dangerous, but those levels are locked in a room with a smoker 1/2
levels of smoke, not I walked by a couple of smokers on the way to work levels. 2/2
Sticklebrickk
Think, for one second, about smoking in parks. Think.
I could see why many people support smoking in public areas, we just can no longer please ignorance about its health affects.
Then ban it outright. Don't half-ass things.
Honestly, I would like to see a ban on smoking, but I know right now its not realistic, but to see less public smoking would be nice.
storebrandproductmascot
As a former smoker who now hates the smell, I still think banning smoking in outdoor areas is ridiculous.
theflyingnun
They need to keep it away from playgrounds, at least.
Asterfix
I am currently a smoker and I support smoking being banned in places where people go to sit around. You should smoke where people aren't at.
So, where do they put the designated smoking areas? Oh wait, there aren't any.
lawlphailure
It was more to prevent the litter of cigarette butts in parks, than the principal of smoking. It's a lot of work to clean those things up.
cheeseguy3412
My sister has had to be taken to the ER from outdoor smoking, I've just been made to cough until I puke. I'm all for the ban.
pugofstardock
Because those pigs trew the buds everywhere
Equalcharlie
Ash trays used to be part of garbage bins. Then they took them and were shocked when butts ended up on the ground.
People litter that shit and smoke right on the playground. Just because it's outside doesn't mean people can't smell that shit.
The second you leave your home your going to smell things you don't like. Get over it.
Again, it isn't just about me. Littering, safety of others, etc..
Nize426
Yup. Also a fire hazard and people holding lit cigs at waist level is eye level for kids.
I am all about individual freedoms, but when they impede the safety and/or happiness of others, then what do we do?
No one can say smoking is good. When people smoke outside they're just exhaling poisonous gas in to the air, it's second hand smoke, its bad
You are the retard that has seeped its way I to our nation.
Oh yeah, I know I'm an outlier in this situation, I'm not saying what I think is prefect, nor will I riot until I get my way.
RosegoldEverything
What did they say that isn't true? Genuinely wondering if I missed something.
OctopusStinkhorn
Outdoor areas that are primarily for children?
MoonMoonGreen
I think it's obvious we are not talking about playground. Smoking outdoor remain acceptable. non smoker here
screamingwinemaker
Are you talking about a school yard or a public park? Public parks should be OK. Schools? Nah, mate.
Do you have kids? Have you been to a school lately? With all the busses and cars picking up and dropping off, who could smell the difference
So what if they catch a tiny whiff of smoke? Look at the smoke big trucks belch out and we don't protect the children from that.
Exactly
Tonisaurus
I think it's more an issue of cigarette ends being littered everywhere where kids play, makes them copy and pick them up
You'd think then that they wouldn't be constantly removing public ashtrays in every city.
I don't understand that argument. If people are littering, there are laws in place to deal with that. Enforce them.
Eh, I'd rather not be subjected to others' second hand smoke. It's not healthy and it's just gross, and I think most would agree.
And this comes from someone with a smoking "kink" and a fiancé who's just quitting and smoked since long before we met.
Literally why downvotes
Meaning, it's not out of hatred or disdain for smokers.
To either of these
chloramphenicolderivative
Just don't smoke near entrances to parks, and then people can avoid it.
JellyfishAlpaca
Explain how being against gay marriage cannot be homophobic
Because I believe marriage ins a union by god between a man and a woman.
hypnokrote
I'm against gay marriage bc nobody should have to waste their money on a worthless pos ritual to give de beers more money
FeWill
Well... you're a dumbass. You don't need a ring for a marriage certificate, and it comes with a number of convenient legal benefits.
Sttargh
This is super important especially for issues that regard health care.
thecattlebarron
Are you aginst polygamy?
No why would I? Doesnt matter who people marry how many times
thoushaltnotpass
You can replace "gay" with "mixed race" in every argument against gay marriage and it looks like a '60s era racist issue.
The word Phobia describes a person with an exaggerated fear. People who express opinions counter to yours are not full of fear.
Homophobia isnt a fear just google it
The term was made up using an inappropriate component- Phobia. This was done intentionally to suggest illness for certain opinions.
Err um......YOU'RE JUST A TRIGGERED SNOWFLAKE!
No. Should I be?
No I just fine that supporters of same sex marriage are often against polygamy, and I find that funny
Fusstin
I don't desire to be around gays but I still want them to get married. Is that homophobic?
hangryasian
Doesn't homophobia have to do with being afraid of gay people? If that's the case than I still can be against it and not afraid of the peopl
But if you have no problems why deny equal rights? Its a weird lack of common sense
Religion mostly. Oh and I'm not against it. I'm just throwing seemingly direct definitions out there for controversy.
I getchu
rainmakerab
Doesn't phobia in general, mean fear of...? people can say they don't like potato chips, it doesn't mean they have a phobia of said chips
Are you reinforcing my point or trying to say something else? Because you just said the same thing I did.
I would lean towards the reinforcing angle. I find the word homophobic is way too often used as an insult, rather than accurate.
NEALSMO
"Dislike or prejudice against gay people" not a fear of them.
Colloquial definition, now enshrined as fact. "Phobia" is fear, not hate.
Fear or aversion to something
I've learned something new
Mofodo
I thought it was for a while because of the "phobia" part but I don't think the name matches what they intend it to mean very well.
Definitions do tend to change
Which is a bad thing.
That's just how languages are created.
Lifk
Its not "afraid" it's "hate of". Phobia loose it greek meaning long time ago.
Lost*
No it didn't.
DontReadMyBio
I had a gay professor in college that was against gay marriage cuz he believed it was trivial and there were greater issues to deal with.
Mavgurian
It is also trivial to just allow it and move on to greater issues then.
That's not logical. If your house is on fire you don't just say welp... There are bigger issues. Many issues matter. He sounds defeated.
I agree, he was around 40-something at the time and seemed emotionally drained. I just thought it was an interesting pov.
CrissCross35
Of course there are greater issues to deal with, that still don't make it right to be against gay marriage. You could just not support it.
"Not supporting" something, is often times being against said thing.
Theres a big difference between not supporting and being against. It's like not voting instead of voting yes or no.
Im sorry but in the political world there is absolutely no difference, and that is what were are discussing here so...
PoweredbyOSengine
So If I said I did not support gay marriage you would not assume I am against it?
I mean, man, you can think being gay is wrong without fearing teh gay. I don't think it's wrong but I know peeps who do.
You can think it. You cannot prevent people from living their lives harmlessly because of your own archaic beliefs.
kawwmoi
Personally I'm not against it but I know people who believe marriage is a Christian thing and should be between a man and woman 1/2
SpruceCaboose
Who cares? Even if the Christians invented it (they didn't), separation of church and state is a goddamn thing for a reason.
But otherwise don't care what two men/women do in the privacy of their own home. 2/2 not homophobic, just anti gay marriage.
Doesn't that just mean the religion is fundamentally homophobic, by excluding that specific group inclusion in a sacrament? A religion 1/
that believed marriage could only be between white people would get called out as racist in a heartbeat. 2/2
This is where separation of church and state is supposed to work
TallDude
But that also means against legal rights granted through legal marriage, both for hospital visitations and taxes.
That's the government's fault, not religion's.
People are using religious reasons to deny people rights that would be granted through the gov't. So it's religious folks doing it.
That's because the government chose to name it after a religious practice. If they just called it a legal union this issue wouldn't exist.
It's been called marriage for a LONG time, so the name makes sense. Or are you saying to change the name only for homosexual couples?
zapsdiputs
I don't even know where to start in this world of generalization...
Not to mention the things that are just pure fantasy
spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaccee
The whole thing is a straw man.
Do you even know what a straw man is?
dragonthc
I think it's you who doesn't know about quinoa and fascism.
ArgonSpark
How so?
Emal
Theres a straaaaw maaaaan waiting in the sky!! No?...
Might I suggest starting here http://imgur.com/MRQSLmp
slightlyhotcontents
PennyRoyalTea1010
I mean he was pretty specific about several things, Caitlyn Jenner, bathrooms, smoking in parks, gun control...
GreaterDog
If your response to overreaching political correctness is to give racism a free pass, I don't think the PC crowd is to blame
eddine
May I suggest quinoa and fascism?
Powerlessbananahead
I love you
Shakenpeachtree
Cool band name.
Tirade
I was thinking maybe a web comic, but it'd work for that too.
*or - pretty sure you meant or, or you didn't read / understand that particular point
CwmMakesPeopleCryInScrabble
"Denier" as a slur is pretty good too, since it's literally just descriptive of people who deny climate change...
ohyouhere
Or: I'm not homophobic but gay people should have less rights?
DreadCarcass
They dont see it as taking rights its more of a scar on their idea of what marriage should be
Still, it grants less rights to a group of people.
diehardlance
Inaccurate, if gays were given something equal but not called marriage it wouldn't be an issue. Yo me its semantics but to themit's importan
dizcostu
This is a stupid person's guide to ranting beyond their intelligence level.
SaintMaceToTheFace
He is right. When the dems try to make shit into a nanny state people get fed up.
yetanotherpsychstudent
I don't know about that... You had trump for 4 years and tbh I never saw anyone happy. I get the sense a lot of people are perma angry nmw.
PandaFoodMonster
ninjabot405
I am going to upvote this because I don't want to live in an echo chamber. It's not a good argument. I don't agree. I listened. It's wrong.
SaintMaceToTheFace
Many who or Dem don't think like you. There is a "listen to me for your own good" mentality there
SaintMaceToTheFace
Many who or Dem don't think like you. There is a "listen to me for your own good" mentality there
WadaShami
It happened because the Democratic party rigged their primaries and let the worst candidate in History run against Donald.
ruckittothewest
All rational people agree that banning interracial marriage was racist. How is banning gay marriage not homophobic? Church and state, bitch.
Hoojamufasijer
An over-generalization of cherry-picked individuals whose views make it easier to disagree and hold a bias against the, "other side."
pickingaclevernameishard
This sentence could describes both directions equally (e.g., Republicans are Fox News).
stripeypurple3
You, sir, have just described the entirety of modern public discourse in one sentence.
ChesterCopperpots
I didn't do any of the things on this list and still didn't vote for Mr Trump
TommyRottn
Just because you are not a part of the problem, doesn't make you part of the solution.
ChesterCopperpots
You speak as if there is a clear solution. I'd love to be part of that
ChesterCopperpots
539 million people from almost literally the whole world of cultures and ideals coming together is as difficult of task as there is.
ChesterCopperpots
The biggest country in the EU (Germany 88 million) has only recently unified in 1989.
rockyhorrorisme
Another sad, little man who is unhappy he isn't being praised for just existing.
ThatDwarfWhoStealsYourOpinions
His whole argument is that people shouldn't be treated as special in a way that affects the freedom of others. Try harder, bud.
rockyhorrorisme
I think you need to think harder, sweetie.
seeingsalty
Me not wanting second hand smoke, or wanting to be able to marry who I want and receive the same rights as others, affects whose freedom?
ThatDwarfWhoStealsYourOpinions
Gay marriage is a tiny, irrelevant part of his argument, and if you don't like someone smoking in public, move. Not that oppressive.
seeingsalty
If gay marriage is irrelevant, I shudder to think of how highly you might regard super-size sodas! And no, I won't move. Smoke travels. >
ThatDwarfWhoStealsYourOpinions
Gay marriage is not irrelevant. I'm just saying that gay marriage doesn't fit the argument he's trying to make.
seeingsalty
< You move. You and your unhealthy habit don't own the space. You don't get to dictate the health of others with your garbage.
aleister94
This is a perfect assessment
YourThoughtsOnTransgenderIssuesAreReallyReallyImportantToMe
Oh goddammit, as a gay person, FUCK that gay marriage thing. Yes, opposing gay marriage is homophobic. Sorry if that offends you.
WhatAmIDoingHereIveGotWorkToDo
This is exactly why extreme right wing Marine Le Pen is scoring higher and higher in France. So much the same!
cptcr
post gets 354 upvotes... all top comments are trashing it and being dismissive. Is that called a microcosm?
kudichan
That isn't what a microcosm is. But it's pretty typical of politics on imgur; the top comments are usually people complaining about the OP.
ninjabot405
And Russia helped a little bit.
RetConMan
With what? Technical indicators aren't exactly proof, and how is the timing of releasing condemning information worse than the information?
ninjabot405
That is a little bit of help, and they didn't release any dirt on Trump or GOP. Don't tell me there wasn't any dirt on the other side.
hannagator
Because we wanted people to stop treating others like shit? Good try
seafirezero
also because the media was ridiculously anti-trump
NanoNago
It's almost as if he is objectively a fucking idiot
YouWillNotLikeThis
Do you guys still belive that?
SaintMaceToTheFace
And generally anti republican. Fox has so much power because everyone else hates the right
gorillaClutch
and yet they featured him every 10 goddamn seconds. cnn ran a story every time he fucking tweeted
Fahargo
because they thought it hurt him and the RNC. Give as much air time to the buffoon as possible so he's our easy competitor. Backfired fastaf
epipenis
Because they thought it would drive viewership and they would make money. Media outlets have that in mind first.
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
...I don't think sodas and smoking caused Trump to be elected...
SaintMaceToTheFace
The point is the left tried to make the government into your nanny to take care of you for your own good
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
Well the smoking one is kind of reasonable second-hand smoke isn't something that those people are exactly choosing so it needs restrictions
PotassiumLover
Yeah those two points were a bit stretched
TommyRottn
I think you're missing the point
Grootality
Those were kind of red flags for me lol
badonkadon
The point was how people were concerned about little things
Soufange
Discrimination based on sexual orientation, religion, and skin color are little things? Hot damn, tell everyone protesting the muslim ban!
JamBarn
I'd elect goddamn Hitler if I meant I could drink a big gulp while smoking a lucky strike in public park. Hitler.
RetConMan
It's an example of trying to control peoples' lives.
epipenis
Yep now Trump can get back to freedom instead of this petty shit, you know the kind that tells people who they can and can't marry.
RetConMan
I don't remember that being anywhere in his first 100 day plan.
epipenis
see his supreme court nominees
beanblanket
Well if their poor life choices have such a significant impact on others then they should be controlled.
SaintMaceToTheFace
Boom. Thought police bullshit like that
RetConMan
QED
TotesNotTheNSA
How is some fatty drinking a soda going to have a significant impact on your life?
GymTinderLaundry
Healthcare costs. Obesity is expensive.
SaintMaceToTheFace
And now that is why healthcare shouldn't be government. It's a personal decision and no of your concern
RetConMan
In the long run, obesity is much less expensive than being healthy and living to 100.
JamBarn
Facebook rants are usually nonsense and I see that this was no exception
SaintMaceToTheFace
That is where you are wrong. This whole thing can be summed up as Repubs are fed up of thought police behaviors
RyeInACan
I beg to differ. As a Canadian with conservative-republican parents, these defined their reasonings to a Tee. They would have voted Trump.
RyeInACan
I mean, obviously not all of these points applied, (Example, smoking outside) but the ones that did connect were ALL the points.
Voidkom
People seem to have no problem with them when they are from democrats.
JamBarn
Doesn't mean those aren't nonsense too. Maybe make your own decisions about what's stupid and what isn't instead of being reactionary.
EdMcBain
As a Democrat and tremendously anti-Trump (aka small fingered piss golem): This post is pretty much on point.
UncivilizedEngie
I didn't do any of these things, although I did call climate change deniers that because they deny climate change.
TommyRottn
I guess you don't get a participation trophy then.
roscoirish
Trump happened because people voted for him...simple...America has confirmed what the world thought it always was...cheap and trashy
CariG
Yeah, I don't know how people aren't understanding this.
SaintMaceToTheFace
They can think what ever they like. Little bitches still run to us when shit goes wrong
blitz220
The only reason most of the country isn't in poverty is that they set the bar to be included to low. I live in N VA and 50k a year you ..
blitz220
will be barely able to live here.
youcantbanmeimabadbitch
Do you plan on paying cat tax for this sob story?
IhaveAdogAndAnxiety
trollingworld
So asking people to eat healthy, stay healthy and respect others were a crime. Why do we need laws to stop blowing smoke at others face?
TommyRottn
There's a difference between asking and telling.
NurseSlacky
Because mah freedoms. If I wanna smoke while pregnant, that's on me and my baby Cheeseburger Dale Jr., not you, city slicker.
RetConMan
People can still smoke and drink while pregnant. Also, fat people generally use fewer medical resources over their lifetime than others do.
trollingworld
Alright red. U smoke and let ur baby come out with some shit like down syndrome and u will end up with fucking cancer.Later expect1/3
trollingworld
Government to pay for ur treatment with our tax money.I dont care what you do to urself or ur baby in the privacy of ur trailer park.2/3
trollingworld
I wud love to have clean air to breath while i am outside. I dont want you to pollute it with ur ignorance.
NurseSlacky
That infringes upon my rights to pollute! Asshole!
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Whoosh?
ChloePrice
Yeah opposing equal rights for gays isn't homophobic... And denying climate change is not dangerous at all. Fucking moron.
boaja
calm down chole
Sonicdahedgie
You're embodying the point he's making. You've ignored the entire rant because of one or two sentences that happened to be contained in it.
ChloePrice
Because we only have 140 characters here that are too little to dissect every detail of it. I can say tho, it all around seems backwards.
evildrcatfish
And behold, the very people described will now demonstrate what you've described at you, and see no irony in it. To the comments!
snipekill1997
Because saying that opposition to gay marriage is homophobic and stating that climate denialism is dangerous are both absurd right./s
evildrcatfish
Controlling hostile behavior won't correct those beliefs, only embolden them. You must teach and understand, not shame. 1/
evildrcatfish
The hateful, arrogant, self-serving methods of social justice convince no one, and are in turn causing a huge rise in conservatism. 2/2
kudichan
It's pretty funny (and depressing) to see people personify this behaviour while also claiming that it's an alt-right strawman.
SaintMaceToTheFace
Yep
RetConMan
It's fucking spooky just how much of that is going on. "Oh so I shouldn't control what you do and believe even though you're wrong?"
Syriio
This seems to be shit talking hipsters and college liberals... the age group and locations of majority of Trumps voters would disagree
PaintedSlate
But they ARE mad that they heard about how people were saying these things.
Syriio
Whose they? I don't understand what you're trying to say rephrase
PaintedSlate
They're mad, because people on the right told them people were saying these things, and they react as if it were a constant, growing threat.
Syriio
Maybe I'm being obtuse but that clarified nothing, stop using ambiguous titles for the groups your discussing.
PaintedSlate
The people who voted for Trump on the basis of OPs arguments in light of the prior commenter's explanation. You need the context. On mobile?
Terwin94
Smoking in public is an infringement on my right to breathe :P The thought policing shit even pisses me off as a liberal.
OliverClothesoff70
What about farting? Should we pass anti-farting laws, too?
TommyRottn
Asking the real questions +1
Terwin94
Farting is a natural bodily function, smoking can trigger asthma attacks and is generally worse for everyone around you than it is for you.
taxiviolence
If it has links to causing cancer and also sets off children's/ adult asthma
Buretsu
When you can get cancer from second-hand farts... yes, we can pass anti-farting laws.
GodEmperor0fMankind
What reason would you have for opposing gay marriage other than homophobia?
RetConMan
Religion. Good luck proving that your religion is more valid than someone else's.
snipekill1997
Then that religion is homophobic.
peachiepie
If you're against it, even for religious reasons, it's still a dislike of gays or gay lifestyle. That's their own thing, but it can't...
SaintMaceToTheFace
You can be gay but to me by definition marriage is a man and a woman
peachiepie
And that's all well and good, but the state and fed government has to treat us all as equals. Their definitions are what matter to me. (1/2)
peachiepie
I'm okay w/ you not liking my marriage and calling it sin. I just want equal rights, despite someone else's beliefs. (2/2)
peachiepie
Impede someone else's right to marry and get all the other rights that come with it. They want to have secular, discriminatory beliefs...
peachiepie
Without the title, because homophobic doesn't sound so righteous. Ppl used to use religion as an excuse for hating interracial couples...
peachiepie
Too. If you hold the belief, own it, including the title it earns you.
lifeisshortsoshutthehellup
Because the DNC rammed a corrupt old bitch into the nomination. All this other crap is posturing. Because smoking in parks...
YouWillNotLikeThis
That people still belive that only proves that Trumps victory was a result of opinions being viewed as facts
anunpronounceablestringofcharacters
Well the issue is primary voters aren't representative of gen election voters resulting in two strongly disliked candidates. The DNC (1/?)
TommyRottn
A. Writing a dissertation? B. Little chance of winning? C. Are you serious? Bernie would have beat trump easily.
anunpronounceablestringofcharacters
Maybe, analysis is mixed on that subject. But that's not what I said, he would have lost handily to a mainstream republican.
anunpronounceablestringofcharacters
race had one true opponent who stood very little chance in the general vs a traditional GOP candidate. While the GOP primary was a damn 2/?
anunpronounceablestringofcharacters
circus/clown show with fucking jv debate stages. Chaos led to Trump's early lead and he rode the momentum (3/3).
lifeisshortsoshutthehellup
Was banned? You're just as stupid as the people you're mocking.
NurseSlacky
But! Mah freedoms!
Braina77
I get what your saying but if you don't think shit like this contributed 30000 fuck it votes then your denying human nature.
TheMaXX37
30,000 votes was not the margin of victory. Also, you're* x2. Come on seriously?
ForALimitedTimeOnly
Banning smoking in parks is a good idea, who's upset about that ?
SaintMaceToTheFace
Honestly me. If I'm chilling smoking a cig I'm not bothering anyone if I'm out of the way
Ithinkthisishowimakeafakeaccountalso
I'm a smoker and I'm okay with this. I also agree with the $500 littering fine for people who throw their butts out the window.
Shukusatsu
'murricans.
CloudberryMoose
I don't mind no smoking zones, but please do provide zones to smoke in at least, no? I want to respect people, but I need a way to do so.
seeingsalty
Idiots who think the world revolves around them, everyone else be damned.
dubone99
Brendan O'Neill
TommyRottn
Me for one - I'm out fucking side. Pretty sure your car is putting out more carcinogenics than me.
valen00
Have you actually seen what cars are allowed to put out? I'd say you are quite incorrect there
GodEmperorOfImgur
People who like to smoke in parks?
DrStoeckchen
Wait, you seriously banned smoking in the park? wtf?
BleedEffect
I quit smoking and I'm not a fan of the smell but I am a fan of letting people do what they want within reason.
ForALimitedTimeOnly
Yep, people can smoke with in reason, just as long as they don't make it another persons problem.
PennnnnyLane
Smokers.
Natsumori
The angry smoker who wrote this.
TheNudeJumper
I second this.
majortool
Canada here: Not sure I like the gun comments, either. I know this is a heated subject, but in Canada the police protect us. I like that.
Millillion
Libertarians and selfish smokers.
tommyfever
Most of those mentioned are "good ideas" but they infringe on the rights of free people. If smoking is bad make it illegal, not controlled.
ForALimitedTimeOnly
People should be free to smoke in their homes, that's fine, just try not to bring it to other people.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
They tried that with alcohol...didn't really work out the way they thought it would...
tommyfever
And now you understand the role of government - once the people who voted for Her do as well, we might get somewhere better.
Notme68
I am. I don't smoke, but it is outside. That is a little much.
ForALimitedTimeOnly
Second had smoke is just as bad as first hand. No one wants to hang out near a chemical dump, no one wants to go were people smoke, it's1
ForALimitedTimeOnly
Unhealthy and people who smoke shouldn't just be allowed to spew nicotine everywhere, especially in a public place. Smoke at home.
BajaChicken
Second hand is not as bad as first. At certain levels it can still be dangerous, but those levels are locked in a room with a smoker 1/2
BajaChicken
levels of smoke, not I walked by a couple of smokers on the way to work levels. 2/2
Sticklebrickk
Think, for one second, about smoking in parks. Think.
ForALimitedTimeOnly
I could see why many people support smoking in public areas, we just can no longer please ignorance about its health affects.
tommyfever
Then ban it outright. Don't half-ass things.
ForALimitedTimeOnly
Honestly, I would like to see a ban on smoking, but I know right now its not realistic, but to see less public smoking would be nice.
storebrandproductmascot
As a former smoker who now hates the smell, I still think banning smoking in outdoor areas is ridiculous.
theflyingnun
They need to keep it away from playgrounds, at least.
Asterfix
I am currently a smoker and I support smoking being banned in places where people go to sit around. You should smoke where people aren't at.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
So, where do they put the designated smoking areas? Oh wait, there aren't any.
lawlphailure
It was more to prevent the litter of cigarette butts in parks, than the principal of smoking. It's a lot of work to clean those things up.
cheeseguy3412
My sister has had to be taken to the ER from outdoor smoking, I've just been made to cough until I puke. I'm all for the ban.
pugofstardock
Because those pigs trew the buds everywhere
Equalcharlie
Ash trays used to be part of garbage bins. Then they took them and were shocked when butts ended up on the ground.
PennnnnyLane
People litter that shit and smoke right on the playground. Just because it's outside doesn't mean people can't smell that shit.
Equalcharlie
The second you leave your home your going to smell things you don't like. Get over it.
PennnnnyLane
Again, it isn't just about me. Littering, safety of others, etc..
Nize426
Yup. Also a fire hazard and people holding lit cigs at waist level is eye level for kids.
PennnnnyLane
I am all about individual freedoms, but when they impede the safety and/or happiness of others, then what do we do?
ForALimitedTimeOnly
No one can say smoking is good. When people smoke outside they're just exhaling poisonous gas in to the air, it's second hand smoke, its bad
Sticklebrickk
You are the retard that has seeped its way I to our nation.
ForALimitedTimeOnly
Oh yeah, I know I'm an outlier in this situation, I'm not saying what I think is prefect, nor will I riot until I get my way.
RosegoldEverything
What did they say that isn't true? Genuinely wondering if I missed something.
OctopusStinkhorn
Outdoor areas that are primarily for children?
MoonMoonGreen
I think it's obvious we are not talking about playground. Smoking outdoor remain acceptable. non smoker here
Sticklebrickk
Think, for one second, about smoking in parks. Think.
screamingwinemaker
Are you talking about a school yard or a public park? Public parks should be OK. Schools? Nah, mate.
TommyRottn
Do you have kids? Have you been to a school lately? With all the busses and cars picking up and dropping off, who could smell the difference
storebrandproductmascot
So what if they catch a tiny whiff of smoke? Look at the smoke big trucks belch out and we don't protect the children from that.
TommyRottn
Exactly
Tonisaurus
I think it's more an issue of cigarette ends being littered everywhere where kids play, makes them copy and pick them up
storebrandproductmascot
You'd think then that they wouldn't be constantly removing public ashtrays in every city.
BajaChicken
I don't understand that argument. If people are littering, there are laws in place to deal with that. Enforce them.
RosegoldEverything
Eh, I'd rather not be subjected to others' second hand smoke. It's not healthy and it's just gross, and I think most would agree.
RosegoldEverything
And this comes from someone with a smoking "kink" and a fiancé who's just quitting and smoked since long before we met.
RosegoldEverything
Literally why downvotes
RosegoldEverything
Meaning, it's not out of hatred or disdain for smokers.
RosegoldEverything
To either of these
chloramphenicolderivative
Just don't smoke near entrances to parks, and then people can avoid it.
JellyfishAlpaca
Explain how being against gay marriage cannot be homophobic
SaintMaceToTheFace
Because I believe marriage ins a union by god between a man and a woman.
hypnokrote
I'm against gay marriage bc nobody should have to waste their money on a worthless pos ritual to give de beers more money
FeWill
Well... you're a dumbass. You don't need a ring for a marriage certificate, and it comes with a number of convenient legal benefits.
Sttargh
This is super important especially for issues that regard health care.
thecattlebarron
Are you aginst polygamy?
JellyfishAlpaca
No why would I? Doesnt matter who people marry how many times
thoushaltnotpass
You can replace "gay" with "mixed race" in every argument against gay marriage and it looks like a '60s era racist issue.
ExploratoryDentalSurgery
The word Phobia describes a person with an exaggerated fear. People who express opinions counter to yours are not full of fear.
JellyfishAlpaca
Homophobia isnt a fear just google it
ExploratoryDentalSurgery
The term was made up using an inappropriate component- Phobia. This was done intentionally to suggest illness for certain opinions.
aleister94
Err um......YOU'RE JUST A TRIGGERED SNOWFLAKE!
thecattlebarron
Are you aginst polygamy?
rockyhorrorisme
No. Should I be?
thecattlebarron
No I just fine that supporters of same sex marriage are often against polygamy, and I find that funny
Fusstin
I don't desire to be around gays but I still want them to get married. Is that homophobic?
hangryasian
Doesn't homophobia have to do with being afraid of gay people? If that's the case than I still can be against it and not afraid of the peopl
JellyfishAlpaca
But if you have no problems why deny equal rights? Its a weird lack of common sense
hangryasian
Religion mostly. Oh and I'm not against it. I'm just throwing seemingly direct definitions out there for controversy.
JellyfishAlpaca
I getchu
rainmakerab
Doesn't phobia in general, mean fear of...? people can say they don't like potato chips, it doesn't mean they have a phobia of said chips
hangryasian
Are you reinforcing my point or trying to say something else? Because you just said the same thing I did.
rainmakerab
I would lean towards the reinforcing angle. I find the word homophobic is way too often used as an insult, rather than accurate.
NEALSMO
"Dislike or prejudice against gay people" not a fear of them.
tommyfever
Colloquial definition, now enshrined as fact. "Phobia" is fear, not hate.
NEALSMO
Fear or aversion to something
hangryasian
I've learned something new
Mofodo
I thought it was for a while because of the "phobia" part but I don't think the name matches what they intend it to mean very well.
hangryasian
Definitions do tend to change
tommyfever
Which is a bad thing.
Mofodo
That's just how languages are created.
Lifk
Its not "afraid" it's "hate of". Phobia loose it greek meaning long time ago.
hangryasian
Lost*
tommyfever
No it didn't.
DontReadMyBio
I had a gay professor in college that was against gay marriage cuz he believed it was trivial and there were greater issues to deal with.
Mavgurian
It is also trivial to just allow it and move on to greater issues then.
epipenis
That's not logical. If your house is on fire you don't just say welp... There are bigger issues. Many issues matter. He sounds defeated.
DontReadMyBio
I agree, he was around 40-something at the time and seemed emotionally drained. I just thought it was an interesting pov.
CrissCross35
Of course there are greater issues to deal with, that still don't make it right to be against gay marriage. You could just not support it.
DontReadMyBio
"Not supporting" something, is often times being against said thing.
CrissCross35
Theres a big difference between not supporting and being against. It's like not voting instead of voting yes or no.
DontReadMyBio
Im sorry but in the political world there is absolutely no difference, and that is what were are discussing here so...
PoweredbyOSengine
So If I said I did not support gay marriage you would not assume I am against it?
JamBarn
I mean, man, you can think being gay is wrong without fearing teh gay. I don't think it's wrong but I know peeps who do.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
You can think it. You cannot prevent people from living their lives harmlessly because of your own archaic beliefs.
kawwmoi
Personally I'm not against it but I know people who believe marriage is a Christian thing and should be between a man and woman 1/2
SpruceCaboose
Who cares? Even if the Christians invented it (they didn't), separation of church and state is a goddamn thing for a reason.
kawwmoi
But otherwise don't care what two men/women do in the privacy of their own home. 2/2 not homophobic, just anti gay marriage.
FeWill
Doesn't that just mean the religion is fundamentally homophobic, by excluding that specific group inclusion in a sacrament? A religion 1/
FeWill
that believed marriage could only be between white people would get called out as racist in a heartbeat. 2/2
taxiviolence
This is where separation of church and state is supposed to work
TallDude
But that also means against legal rights granted through legal marriage, both for hospital visitations and taxes.
IhaveAdogAndAnxiety
That's the government's fault, not religion's.
TallDude
People are using religious reasons to deny people rights that would be granted through the gov't. So it's religious folks doing it.
kawwmoi
That's because the government chose to name it after a religious practice. If they just called it a legal union this issue wouldn't exist.
TallDude
It's been called marriage for a LONG time, so the name makes sense. Or are you saying to change the name only for homosexual couples?
zapsdiputs
I don't even know where to start in this world of generalization...
aleister94
Not to mention the things that are just pure fantasy
spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaccee
The whole thing is a straw man.
TommyRottn
Do you even know what a straw man is?
dragonthc
I think it's you who doesn't know about quinoa and fascism.
ArgonSpark
How so?
Emal
Theres a straaaaw maaaaan waiting in the sky!! No?...
RetConMan
Might I suggest starting here http://imgur.com/MRQSLmp
slightlyhotcontents
PennyRoyalTea1010
I mean he was pretty specific about several things, Caitlyn Jenner, bathrooms, smoking in parks, gun control...
GreaterDog
If your response to overreaching political correctness is to give racism a free pass, I don't think the PC crowd is to blame
eddine
May I suggest quinoa and fascism?
Powerlessbananahead
I love you
Shakenpeachtree
Cool band name.
Tirade
I was thinking maybe a web comic, but it'd work for that too.
TommyRottn
*or - pretty sure you meant or, or you didn't read / understand that particular point
CwmMakesPeopleCryInScrabble
"Denier" as a slur is pretty good too, since it's literally just descriptive of people who deny climate change...
ohyouhere
Or: I'm not homophobic but gay people should have less rights?
DreadCarcass
They dont see it as taking rights its more of a scar on their idea of what marriage should be
ohyouhere
Still, it grants less rights to a group of people.
diehardlance
Inaccurate, if gays were given something equal but not called marriage it wouldn't be an issue. Yo me its semantics but to themit's importan