There's a difference between appropriation and appreciation.

Apr 7, 2022 3:24 PM

sleeperkid

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Once had a white girl yell at me because I accepted a dreamcatcher as a gift. Shit was stupid.

As a Mexican I love speedy Gonzalez and slowpoke

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It was only when Slowpoke Rodriguez talked to them that Cartoon Network decided it was in their best interest to reverse course.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ok, but that wasn't people being offended. That was the studio self-censoring to avoid offending people, despite having got no complain.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Can you clarify your caption? I’m wondering specifically if you got the dream catcher as a gift from a Native person.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We Hispanics were just proud that we were actually being included for once besides that little mouse was awesome lol

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If Speedy is Hispanic, is Bugs White?

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Bugs is literally Groucho Marx

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Funny how people’s minds work. I grew up with all of those cartoons; I loved them, they were funny. And in the context of my youth 1/2

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 3

2/2 they will always be funny.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 3

What is there to "beware" exactly? A cartoon went away and then came back. What a drama queen

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Absolutely loved this show

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Where's the rest??

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Tio Choko! He's on YouTube!!! Lol!!! https://youtu.be/C6MbzLgCh00

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Thank you rabbit hole

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cares for his family, not a single bad bone in his body, charming personality, Speedy is like one of the few 100% wholesome Looney Tunes

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What about slow poke

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Love speedy...I'm central American btw. One of my favorite characters

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Maybe ask the parties that are referred to, before you ban things ?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This reminds me when they replaced Brock with Tracey in Pokémon because I guess the creators were afraid he would come off as racist.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

!Arriba arriba!

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Stereotypes in #1 get a pass because 1) they're more cultural stereotypes rather than racial and 2) Speedy is the "hero/good guy"

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

A friend of mine is Hispanic and he uses Speedy as a logo for his business.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Chicano Power!

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

when this happened I think I heard the cartoon is in fact extremely popular in Latin America.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

my guess is they like to laugh at cartoon violence because its damn funny.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

We love the guy, he was our bugs bunny and he was fast like the road runner. And now they won't show him in the new looney toons show.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

You mean "The Looney Tunes Show"? or the more recent show on HBO Max? Because the former has him

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

the hbo max one.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah, isn't he like an everyman in that series or something?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah in that one he is great. He has a pizzeria and a chain of frozen pizzas, he is lovely.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Off topic or on topic, who knows. Fiance got a mean message in FFXIV for wearing horns as a cat girl. They said it was "au'ra black face."

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Au Ra player here. WTF? Seems like messager is looking for a fight, or possibly taking RP to an unhealthy extreme.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I know. Everyone i have told has said something similar.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Dafuk? Yeah, sounds like a troll.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Dunno it was in a raid and they weren't trolling the mechanics.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I've had "social trolls" in duties before. One rando in the lvl 90 trial told me that my toon's last name was cool but his first name 1/

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

was stupid, or something like that. We cleared the trial with no more than usual difficulty; some folks like being jerks in party chat. 2/2

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Some people are weird

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And it could’ve just as easily been a prudent decision. The great part here is that CN reacted well and didn’t double down.

4 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

It's not really the true story though; CN acquired the rights to those old shorts and chose not to air what they thought wasn't popular-

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Speedy's shorts were still broadcast on the Latin American networks. It wasn't trying to sidestep outrage machines. Similar reasons were why

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Pepe le Pew hadn't had a new short made for him in 50+ years, getting typically nonspeaking cameos at best: he was never a popular character

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

all the way back to his 1945 debut.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Interesting - more of a popularoty contest then. There *ARE* shorts from popular characters that cannot be aired due to, well, uhh, look:

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Had so many white women tell me I can't have an opinion about the Will Smith slap because I'm not black. Never stopped them, though!

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Wait. There are people who actually looked at that incident and thought "race"? Talk about telling on yourself.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Whenever someone yells "Cultural appropriation!" on the internet my first thought is always "That's cultural appreciation, you dumb fuck."

4 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 2

Yeah. Cultural appropriation would be to claim one's culture as your own, or to use something that has a restrictive meaning in a >

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

> culture without respecting it, like Amerindians' chief hats, that have to be earned.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Back around maybe 2014ish, if you'd told me there were a bunch of people on the Internet indignant over white people appropriating (1/2)

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(2/2) things from non-white cultures, I'd have assumed you meant white nationalists.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Speedy was a mouse of good character and a proper role model. I can see why he was missed.

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In the Looney Tunes Show on CN Speedy owned a pizza restaurant. Very respectable.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Rumor has it he was also a top shagger.

4 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

He’s a Robin Hood kind of guy. I can see why he’d get a lot of girls. Plus, in a later series, he owns a restaurant.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not a bottom shagger?

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I definitely feel he would be switch in that sense.

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Being offended on behalf of other people is an annoying part of left leaning ideologies. But it is still better than the right wing version

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One "gringo" rabbit in question:

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The “she ain’t *that* hot” face

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What does gringos mean?

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

It’s like honky, but in Spanish.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

A foreigner, typically white of European decent. Derogatory, but barely in my opinion.

4 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

In some south american countries a gringo is a tall white, dark haired italian stud.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ah so it's a specifically mexican dialect word? Thanks for the info!

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Use varies with country, most of mexico and central america is derogatory but not in some south america

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Gringo is not bad, pretty much means “white guy”, its descriptive. Pinche in front is definitely derogatory.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Go ask the gringo would just be telling you to talk to the white guy. Like us saying “the white or black dude over there”. Not an offense.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I've asked five different Hispanic folks where the term "Gringo" came from. Got five COMPLETELY different answers. The answers were fun.

4 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

Probably none are right but don't want to google it and mess up my fun.

4 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

FWIW, even goog sources are like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://www.spanish.academy/blog/what-is-the-meaning-of-gringo-the-history-and-origin-of-the-term

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I figured there were a bunch of stories without any chance of choice of real attribution.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

One of the stories was about an American General Green. They wanted him to return home. Green-Go being shouted. I swear. What I was told.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Slowpoke Rodriguez though...

4 years ago | Likes 108 Dislikes 2

Legend.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My old co-manager where I worked was from Mexico and LOVED Slowpoke Rodriguez… That’s just one person, but still true.

4 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 1

He pack a gun…

4 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 1

Came here looking for this, thank you, have an updoot.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It's okay to portray a stereotype as long as it's clear that it doesn't represent the whole. Think of the most stereotypical white guy 1/2

4 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

you can imagine. There is a white guy who literally acts EXACTLY like that. Slowpoke Rodriguez is one lazy mouse out of hundreds shown. 2/2

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

So sleepy

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Slowpoke Rodriguez was my friends big brothers gang name in high school lol.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

That's where the offense came from. The character itself wasn't offensive but it gave asshats a stereotype to gawk at.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well, his character is only negative if you perceive being slow and easy going as a negative thing.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

My partner calls her tio Slowpoke Rodriguez. She says every family has one

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As my dad once said: “EVERY culture has their version of a Slowpoke Rodriguez.”

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Soy me! Slowpoke Rodrigo!

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

As an American, I don't get it.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

Wait 3 days

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It is because he is so fast and you are so slow.

4 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

Whoah whoah whoah....slow down

4 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

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4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Not "banned", CN acquired the rights, but chose not to show the 'toon for fear of offending

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Yup. This post is reactionary garbage when it could have been something useful

4 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 4

The rest about the Hispanic community coming together to defend him and register their support online, which brought him back, is true.

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You could say, that they chose to ban it from being shown.

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Reductive English doesn't make you seem smart.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

It wasn't being shown because they didn't think it was popular enough, not due to them believing it was offensive. It showed on CN in (1)

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(2) Latin America, but not the USA.

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I remember it being a big hubbub basck then, same as when they canceled the taco bell dog for somehow also being racially insensitive.

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But then again I was a kid and had better things to do than care about that stuff so my memory isn't the sharpest. I also remember the OJ

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Trial and all I can really remember is hearing it talked about and thing about the little oj containers from mcdonalds.

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Taco Bell dog was cancelled for one reason: it didn't sell enough tacos. It was beloved regardless so people believed the myth.

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It wasn't even about offending, it just wasn't considered popular enough. It was popular with CN Latin America, where they continued to air

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I just learned there's a CNLA. Do they have like.. Spanish dubs of Inuyasha and stuff?

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It's nonstop reruns of dubbed dragonball

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

so...CN when it was good, then, just missing the Johnny Bravo

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Awesome.

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Isn’t that where we god the infamous Big Green dub?

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Not popular enough? I’ll take Speedy over Roadrunner any day.

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Is there anything dumber than a network exec deciding what is or isn't popular enough?

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A network exec killing something popular because of lgbtq+ characters.

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Gonna guess that your username is relevant here. RIP Owl House

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correct. Also, I'm not remembering any "Mass Protests", other than trolling online

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I could see it, they tried to paint the end paw patrol trolling as real.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You don't have to remember something for it to have happened: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedy_Gonzales#Concern_about_stereotypes

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ok well hold on now because it sounds like you're saying this story on the internet is bullshit

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Maybe even drummed up to manufacture outrage

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Speedy Gonzales is a friend to my sister

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pero te peinas cuña'o!

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He is my brother, actually

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And his cousin is Lento Lopez

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Speedy Gonzales is a friend to ALL of our sisters

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I read this in his voice:

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seeestar*

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Speedy Gonzales is a friend to EVERYBODY'S sister.

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Seester

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*seester

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Gracias!

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That would explain why he's so fast...

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on the flip side:

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This is the sort of thing that brings to mind Larry Niven's "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex".

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I always an reminded of his Disk.

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She says to the guy who can make any part of his body vibrate on command.

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Seriously the flash's tongue game must be mind shattering

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Giganta certainly found someone

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It can warp you through time

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