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Back in 2004 Bose revealed that it had been secretly working on an active suspension system since 1980. By using powerful electromagnetic struts, the Bose system could instantly extend or retract any one wheel, with all four corners working in concert to keep the car's body level
Bose demonstrated the system on a Lexus LS400 outside its headquarters in Framingham, Massachusetts, speeding the car over all manner of obstacles while the body remained completely serene
Bose suspension system that was too expensive and never got into production.
So far the system is only in big-rig truck seats, where the Bose Ride mounting system actively nulls shock and vibration before it reaches the driver. But cars are still the main prize, so asked whether the system could be ready in five years if a car manufacturer committed today, a company spokesman replied, "Yes. Of course, we'd have to work with a car manufacturer on development and customization, but it's technically feasible. And when the right car customer is ready, we'll be ready."
As a finale, the Lexus gracefully leaped over a piece of lumber in its path. It seemed like the dawn of a new era.
Sauce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KPYIaks1UY
InterruptingA10
The last one made me flashback to watching Speed Racer as a kid.
Fal1enKing
I like how they tested it against a car with such a soft suspension. Does anyone actually buy a car like that?
Th3Ch33t
Some people don't want to know what's going on outside their car. We live in a sad, messed up world.
foolsjoules
isitbad that I thought of the car (like the ones in the movie cars) and felt sad that this one did not have a stereotypical love attraction?
asa1967
Lot of bad info here.
heyguysimtom
I had an ls400
DavidBrooker
Meanwhile, in the Williams garage
FishingForConversation
Did he just bunny hop the car? That's some next level shit.
JurassickParker
No way that car just popped an ollie
whoisyourdaddy
Bose tried to sell it to a couple of major car companies, they all deemed it too expensive.
Warfrog
Not just expensive. Too heavy as well.
Dinodude65
What the actual fuck.
felofilipino
that car just jumped
joegolf31
I can finally get over those pesky spike strips people leave on the ground when im in a hurry
twsx
Just guessing, but it probably costs a shitload while not providing a significant benefit.
niet3sche
Thanks (seriously) for the detailed repost. Saw this 1-2 days ago but not in this detail. This adds value. Thanks.
kmaz
gpdesjardins
I'm sure that it's not as cheap as a finely tuned spring and damper system
PlaidGuitar
Huh, using electromagnets that powerful would probably drain a significant portion of energy to power it. Still, neat.
whoisyourdaddy
Most roads are not as rough as the test track. If they are, the power usage is likely worth it.
GravitationalFluctuations
I read about this Bose suspension in a magazine a few years ago. It said it would require the same amount of power as the air conditioner.
StirFryBeans
I believe they use a ferrofluid that polarizes one way or another to become either stiffer or softer. So the electromagnets aren't 1/2
RandomAbscessMemories
That's an entirely different system.
WhatzitTooya
Nah thats what they use in "common" electrically adjustable shock absorbers, the bose one works with linear motors, thats why he can jump.
StirFryBeans
completely holding up the car directly. I could absolutely be wrong though... 2/2
flamingflamingo
Stiffer? Ferofluid doesn't become 'stiffer', it just takes shape. But there are fluids that become more viscous/thinner.
pobody
Nope. Avg power draw is less than running the AC. Source: I build these for military vehicles.
PlaidGuitar
Aye, after reading up on them, it's more than just electromagnets carrying the load. That's what would need a lot of energy.
pobody
Conventional springs support the static weight, the EM suspension just pushes and pulls the wheels around against the sprung mass.
Mentok
Aren't magnetorheological shocks the same basic idea?
NotTheUserYoureLookingFor
Note: Bose was doing this ~2004
DavidBrooker
And Williams in 1993:
flacoloco
Im just gonna say that for me 1993 was like 10 years ago.
DavidBrooker
Are you that man from that relativity problem I had in college?
TheLastPaladin
Honestly, I'd rather have the tactile input of conventional suspension to tell me when my tires are hitting some bad shit on the road.
looseasamoose
I drove a 1997 BMW 750 V12 at 90kph over speedbumps - you feel absolutely nothing. Scares the shit outta people.
looseasamoose
The car's suspension is designed to do that by the way. Try not to do it a *lot* on purpose, isn't the best but it does handle it as designd
InsanePenguins
The school buses realllllyyy need something like this. There are so many students who are in wheel chairs or who may have body problems 1/?
InsanePenguins
That may get worse due to suspension issue. 2/2
StandardDeviant
I'm imagining a Halo Warthog with this. Jumps for days.
OlderWiser
Meanwhile in the suspension underground: http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/hydraulics.gif
Trecares
Looks like someone lost one of their wheel covers.
clutchthepearls
Doesn't this clip cut off like 2 seconds before one of the guys takes a hubcap to the face?
OlderWiser
I don't know because I just copied the GIF address.
Akdj
Sittin' sidewayz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfPLcQhXpCc
OlderWiser
LMAO. Feat. Big Pokey from the S.U.C.
TheRealDwightSchrute
Thought that link said "rapegenius", was hesitant for risky click.
OlderWiser
Fortunately you can just hover.
TheRealDwightSchrute
Mobile does not have these fancy "hovers"
OlderWiser
Oh yeah. I never have used mobile.
mirrorz
Turboboost KITT!
SithElephant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x9tFyEu6VI
PoopholeAintALoophole
BANANANANANANANAANNANA (leaping sound)
MercuryCougar
This is really cool. I gotta wonder how it might affect steering feel, though.
supraman2turbo
Not only that the weight of the car isnt shifting to the appropriate wheels
whiskeyvillage
Yea, I would think there would be a point in which no feedback is severely detrimental to staying on the road.
guminski
Don't know why you are getting downvoted. I hate power-assisted steering just as it is. No clue what is going on except from noise
amras0000
"where we're going we don't need roads" seems oddly appropriate
Andre2998
Or braking. Lumber in the road followed by big pileup? How are you going to brake or steer if your car is in the air?
hardytardigrade
It's called a steering "wheel". I learned that playing Blideo Bames
MercuryCougar
I can't tell if that's supposed to be a joke. If it is, it's a really bad one, and I applaud you for it, sir.
eldarriath
Get out
Hotsinglemomsinyourarea
No stay and make more puns
fyrfliz
As someone who has an ICD... No thanks
cktuba
Mercedes-Benz has a somewhat similar system currently in production https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ScpgI1w5F6A
cktuba
They had a system that tuned out all vibration and sway Active Body Control, but without the road and chassis feedback prototypes (1/2)
cktuba
Crashing as drivers thought they could push the sports cars farther than possible, flying off curves and such. Vibration (feedback) (2/3)
cktuba
Was discovered to be an integral part of the safety throughout the entire vehicle.
JoshLeijs
You guys do realize GM puts magnetic ride in their top vehicles and it works exactly like this? This is old ass news
harpoonyourboyfriend
I was going to say, every Cadillac since like 07 has had this optional if not standard
Stamacy
Have MSRC in my '14 Stingray - love it! :)
Ilieoften
Yeah I have a '15 Tahoe with magnetic ride control, but it doesn't work like that. At all. It's nice, but not like this Bose system
710cap
Similar concepts, but the GM system only works to actively soften/stiffen the ride which while incredibly nice, can't hold a candle to this.
david42
Volvo tested a system much like this over a decade ago, nothing happened.
TheThingNoNotThatOne
This system seems very expensive. Volvo is not an expensive car.
Nidiahk
Volvos are at least quite expensive here in canada
ChromeBadger
I mean this was in 2004... which was over a decade ago as well...
summitshow
Volvo has tested alot... And hurt some during the process, haha.. But jeep... Those fuckers screwed up big time with the moose test.
devblack
What's the moose test?
summitshow
http://youtu.be/zaYFLb8WMGM
devblack
Thanks. I initially thought it involved having a moose ram a car at full speed or something. This makes a lot more sense.
W4rl0cke
They probably forgot to connect the battery to the system, as per usual.
DavidBrooker
Williams won 10 of 16 races, finishing no worse than second place, in the 1993 F1 season with similar tech:
bluedragon878
Ooooooh that's a beaut
pobody
Their system was semi-active, the Bose is fully active.
majortool
These cars all seem to be at least 10 years old.
chaserrrr
A guy on my race team has an older Volvo wagon.This is the only thing he ever defends it with when we all drive our project cars to the shop
focusundrunkes
There are some crazy loyal, Volvo people.
PoopholeAintALoophole
Yeah well they weren't Lexus!!eleven!! No seriously, I have no idea.
BvcketHat
Did you just write eleven out as if you accidentally added 1's into your exclamation points?
PoopholeAintALoophole
Yes! Yes I did !!!twelve!1
BvcketHat
Lmao I like your style