Mar 3, 2016 3:28 AM
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Yaratun
I work as (the only) in-house graphic designer as part of a marketing team for a legal firm... I struggle with this thought every day.
underscoreneckbeard
Found the retail worker.
DatEngineeringStudent
Doesn't apply to every situation. An engineering might know when a tradie is doing something wrong but might not be able to fix it.
drunknninja
Ugh but I have someone whose job isn't even to teach me my job, yet she still tries. And she's a fucking idiot.
derekjohn
No, understanding what somebody else's job is takes too long, get a management degree. Better an MBA: Master of Bugger All.
thepicklebucket
That logic only applies to the self-employed.
Superchief86
"I am here to ensure that you do your job, little human. Not do it for you." - Tichondrius and your manager probably
capnthunderpants
THANK YOU
JustAnInnocentBystander
I don't know how to cook, so I guess I have no right to question the chef when he slips poison into the food. It's for seasoning, right?
Taur622
No, a manager should know what the job is and what is necessary to get done - you should have the skill required to perform the task.
Anything extra the manager knows is beneficial, but not required.
LicenseToDyl
Jaden smith is that you
Mistycica
That's literally what half my engineering classes are - learn what the guys in the workshop do so you can design for them, not against them
AbeFromanSausKing
Have you met corporate America?
dancfontaine
As a cook at a hospital, this. Do not fuck on me when I don't have a spare second all day. Minor shortcuts are going to be necessary 1/2
to evenly distribute my available time for everything I'm doing at once. And you're paying an extremely competent person like $12 so 2/3
really it's like, you're not helping anyone by telling me to change my gloves cause I scratched my nose with the back of my hand and shit
Inmate45
As a teacher in Australia, I'm intrigued... Do principals in the US have to have been teachers?
mthrndr01
As I understand it, that's usually part of the career path.
Naturally90
They do in the UK. All senior staff are teaching staff usually including principles and head teachers. Our was a prior maths teacher.
InternationalPhoneticAlphabet
joining the party of non-american commenters, german principals are always teachers. they usually even still teach on the side.
mexicanstig
Nope, 1 can have a degree in counseling/psych/educ/leadership and be perfectly suited, if not better suited than a teacher
You have clearly never worked in a school...
ToxicMolluscinity
You with the logic, you're fired. GTFO
Grussles
I read that in Cave Johnson's voice
ProTipMan
You're doing my job all wrong. I'm a recruiter.
thatoneguywhoknowsstuff
Well start handing out some interviews man!
maximilianfragglebottom
the manager's job isn't to tell you how to do yours, it's to make it possible for you to do it.
killintyme
THANK YOU! well said
baeelin
It is the trainers job to know and teach you how to do yours.
Ocheous
But the boss's is
Urgalicity
Like the manager of a baseball team. Ya 90% of management absolutely fails at this.
TraitorousTrump3
*a good managers job ...
MailleProstitute
And the supervisor?
MrPCNerd
Depends on the company. My supervisors are basically pseudo-managers
Snarkoleptic
Manager with shit pay.
dephress
That makes it sound like they're support to provide us support, not the other way around.
GodzillasBFF
As a manager, it's my job to help my employees become so knowledgeable and awesome that they get better jobs or eventually replace me.
I like you.
Aww, I like you too.
Rogahar
That's what a good manager is - a leader, a guide. They should be able to help you figure out better ways to do your job.
SengirArchangel
A good supervisor should not be useless if they have to fill in for someone. You make damn sure you're up to snuff on everything.
Oh absolutely - but they're still not there to bark orders.
PrincessBride1
Ha. Yeah, right. Never had a supervisor that would ever stoop to doing my job, ever. Judging by convos with friends this is the norm.
WhatUpIGotABigHawk
And yet none of us (probably) have been elected president and still try to tell him how to act.
notta
They are elected. So we are sort of like the board of directors.
TiberiusBloodhammer
You haven't been? It's pretty great.
121AAD
Democracy: like asking the dumbest people to elect the most qualified Nuclear Engineer to run a Nuclear Power Plant
Theres an adage in business, you need talent to be able to hire people with talent
Yaratun
I work as (the only) in-house graphic designer as part of a marketing team for a legal firm... I struggle with this thought every day.
underscoreneckbeard
Found the retail worker.
DatEngineeringStudent
Doesn't apply to every situation. An engineering might know when a tradie is doing something wrong but might not be able to fix it.
drunknninja
Ugh but I have someone whose job isn't even to teach me my job, yet she still tries. And she's a fucking idiot.
derekjohn
No, understanding what somebody else's job is takes too long, get a management degree. Better an MBA: Master of Bugger All.
thepicklebucket
That logic only applies to the self-employed.
Superchief86
"I am here to ensure that you do your job, little human. Not do it for you." - Tichondrius and your manager probably
capnthunderpants
THANK YOU
JustAnInnocentBystander
I don't know how to cook, so I guess I have no right to question the chef when he slips poison into the food. It's for seasoning, right?
Taur622
No, a manager should know what the job is and what is necessary to get done - you should have the skill required to perform the task.
Taur622
Anything extra the manager knows is beneficial, but not required.
LicenseToDyl
Jaden smith is that you
Mistycica
That's literally what half my engineering classes are - learn what the guys in the workshop do so you can design for them, not against them
AbeFromanSausKing
Have you met corporate America?
dancfontaine
As a cook at a hospital, this. Do not fuck on me when I don't have a spare second all day. Minor shortcuts are going to be necessary 1/2
dancfontaine
to evenly distribute my available time for everything I'm doing at once. And you're paying an extremely competent person like $12 so 2/3
dancfontaine
really it's like, you're not helping anyone by telling me to change my gloves cause I scratched my nose with the back of my hand and shit
Inmate45
As a teacher in Australia, I'm intrigued... Do principals in the US have to have been teachers?
mthrndr01
As I understand it, that's usually part of the career path.
Naturally90
They do in the UK. All senior staff are teaching staff usually including principles and head teachers. Our was a prior maths teacher.
InternationalPhoneticAlphabet
joining the party of non-american commenters, german principals are always teachers. they usually even still teach on the side.
mexicanstig
Nope, 1 can have a degree in counseling/psych/educ/leadership and be perfectly suited, if not better suited than a teacher
Inmate45
You have clearly never worked in a school...
ToxicMolluscinity
You with the logic, you're fired. GTFO
Grussles
I read that in Cave Johnson's voice
ProTipMan
You're doing my job all wrong. I'm a recruiter.
thatoneguywhoknowsstuff
Well start handing out some interviews man!
maximilianfragglebottom
the manager's job isn't to tell you how to do yours, it's to make it possible for you to do it.
killintyme
THANK YOU! well said
baeelin
It is the trainers job to know and teach you how to do yours.
Ocheous
But the boss's is
Urgalicity
Like the manager of a baseball team. Ya 90% of management absolutely fails at this.
TraitorousTrump3
*a good managers job ...
MailleProstitute
And the supervisor?
MrPCNerd
Depends on the company. My supervisors are basically pseudo-managers
Snarkoleptic
Manager with shit pay.
dephress
That makes it sound like they're support to provide us support, not the other way around.
GodzillasBFF
As a manager, it's my job to help my employees become so knowledgeable and awesome that they get better jobs or eventually replace me.
dephress
I like you.
GodzillasBFF
Aww, I like you too.
Rogahar
That's what a good manager is - a leader, a guide. They should be able to help you figure out better ways to do your job.
SengirArchangel
A good supervisor should not be useless if they have to fill in for someone. You make damn sure you're up to snuff on everything.
Rogahar
Oh absolutely - but they're still not there to bark orders.
PrincessBride1
Ha. Yeah, right. Never had a supervisor that would ever stoop to doing my job, ever. Judging by convos with friends this is the norm.
WhatUpIGotABigHawk
And yet none of us (probably) have been elected president and still try to tell him how to act.
notta
They are elected. So we are sort of like the board of directors.
TiberiusBloodhammer
You haven't been? It's pretty great.
121AAD
Democracy: like asking the dumbest people to elect the most qualified Nuclear Engineer to run a Nuclear Power Plant
121AAD
Theres an adage in business, you need talent to be able to hire people with talent