Humans are cruel animals.

Sep 18, 2015 9:19 PM

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This is Michelle Carter and Conrad Roy.

Conrad Roy, who was battling with depression, anxiety and suicidal thoughts, was seeking for help but instead was encouraged by his narcissistic 18-year-old girlfriend Michelle Carter to finish the business.

When Conrad started to worry about the consequences of his suicide, Michelle promised it's not a big deal. "Everyone will be sad for a while, but they will get over it and move on. They won't be in the depression," she wrote.

The following is the conversation between the two that led up to Conrad's death.

Several times Conrad hesitated, deep inside screaming for help, but Michelle was determined to be a grieving girlfriend getting all the attention she craved for.

“Always smile and yeah you have to just do it [suicide],” wrote Michelle when Conrad had doubts. “You have everything you need. There is no way you can fail. Tonight is the night. It’s now or never.”

Later that afternoon, the conversation continued

5:08 PM, Conrad returned from the beach and wanted to back out

6:25 PM, the last message was sent

After the exchange of these messages, Michelle left her house and talked with Conrad for 43 minutes. According to the court documents, at some point during that call, Conrad got out of the car because he got scared, but Michelle told him to get back in. His body was found in his pickup truck after his parents reported him missing.

On the day of Conrad's murder, Michelle was already seeking for attention on Twitter: "Such a beautiful soul gone too soon." A little later she added: "I'll always remember your bright light and smile. You'll forever be in my heart, I love you Conrad." She even organized a suicide prevention fundraiser in his name. When the allegations of involuntary manslaughter were laid out, her Twitter account disappeared. You can still see some of it using The Internet Archive.

This is the first time such a case has ever been tried worldwide. She’s now 18 and is being prosecuted as an adult, charged with involuntary manslaughter.

Michelle's parents Gail and David deny their daughter had committed a crime.

I'm sorry if this is old news, this is not something that should be forgotten. As someone who has battled PTSD and Catatonic Depression for years, help is out there.

I made this video a looong time ago (I was fatter back then) to help those suffering and those to understand. I know it seems like the only way at times, but suicide isn't the answer. We're here 24/7 and you can always reach me if you need to do so. Godspeed, Conrad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTmpqqd4664

https://www.bizarrepedia.com/charged-with-suicide/

Charlie Manson never actually killed anyone, he always convinced others to do it.

11 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 2

"I'm almost there....." ....freaking shiver bumps 0.0

11 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 2

This girl is literally a monster, and won't get near the punishment she deserves.

11 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 1

That's some of the sickest shit I've ever heard of. What the FUCK?!!

11 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 4

Must be nice to live that kind of sheltered life. There's a lot worse in this life, trust me.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

How many fucking times did this psyco say "so are you going to do it"? She needs to rot in prison.

11 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 2

For those of you saying "TL;DR": he was considering suicide, she went full shia labeouf on him.

11 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 2

I feel sick. She took advantage of him. Fuck that bitch

11 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

Better still, don't. If someone does, it's pretty well guaranteed she'll report it as a rape for the drama factor.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I am so fucking angry right now. How DARE her act like she gave a shit (after the fact). I am actually shaking with rage right now.

11 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 8

I know the feels!!!!! Laying on my couch waiting for my uber..."Oh what's this? Let's read.." Aaaaand now I'm pissed the fk off.

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Thanks for making me chuckle. This is such a terrible story about possibly the worst subhuman, piece of shit I've ever read about!

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

What a bitch.

11 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 6

I understand your feelings but I think that attention-needing cunt bag is more accurate

11 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 4

Totally immature and prepared for downvotes but.... Jesus Christ her forehead is the size of the Milky Way Galaxy!

11 years ago | Likes 72 Dislikes 13

Mmm ten outta ten would knock the fuck out faster then little Mac and glass joe.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Oh god that picture reminds me of the scary face bilbo does when he sees Fred's has the ring

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Who let the Goomba in the court room?

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Her reaction kinda paints her as less evil, and more batshit.

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Nope. She's evil. Definitely, deliberately and rationally evil. She knew exactly what she was doing.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

If that's true, his texts imploring her to kill herself with him makes him evil too. Otherwise, you're basing morals on outcomes.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Sometimes I wished I believed in hell, because there is no way she will ever get what she deserves on earth.

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

I like how you put this. My thoughts and feelings exactly.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Why INvoluntary manslaughter? She coaxed him into it over several days. That was completely, deliberately, consciously voluntary.

11 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 8

Intent is a tricky thing to prove. Reading this it might seem obvious, but this isn't all the evidence.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Because if you try for a higher sentence and don't get it, you don't get a retrial for the same crime.

11 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

I heard it was months I might be wrong though

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The prosecution has messages from a bit more than a week of pushing for him to kill himself.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

international suicide hotlines: http://www.suicide.org/international-suicide-hotlines.html get the help you deserve!

11 years ago | Likes 74 Dislikes 0

I actually called them 2 days ago.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Glad you are still with us! Reaching out can be hard. :)

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

My heart was really pumping as I read this. I can't believe this actually happened. Brings me to tears :/

11 years ago | Likes 62 Dislikes 4

I feel sick

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I know. I'm still shaking with rage right now

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

I know. That was the hardest thing I've read in a long, long time. I don't know what this feeling is right now, but I don't like it.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My girlfriend tried to take her life today and all I can do is try to not take mine. This girl deserves everything bad to happen to her.

11 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

I hope you both will be alright. Make sure she gets the help she needs, same to you. If you need to talk I'm here for you both

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Thank you very much. She's out of the hospital now and we're exploring treatment options for her depression. It's rough, but will be okay.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm glad to hear! Therapy is a really big help. I'd also suggest on looking for every little good thing! Stay strong :)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Having been someone much too close to suicide much too many times, this is absolutely fucking disgusting. I didn't finish reading it, ...

11 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 2

Don't finish it. It's not something you want in your head. I'm glad you're still alive, stay strong <3

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I knew I wouldn't have been able to sleep.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I couldn't finish it either and I skipped many parts. I'm glad I had the people I had when I was thinking of Suicide.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This is worse than Jason... screw you Michelle

11 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 4

Like, Friday the 13th Jason?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

She knew what she was doing. He tried to stop and she told him to stop being a bitch and get back in the car. She is a Murderer!!!!

11 years ago | Likes 496 Dislikes 13

agreed, 1st degree murder. premeditated and planned. No fucking excuses from the da. none of this involuntary manslaughter bullshit.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

"involuntary" manslaughter.

11 years ago | Likes 61 Dislikes 4

Ain't nothing involuntary about this. This is straight up planned out.

11 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 5

What she is, is a murderer and a fucking cunt.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

He clearly had a phase where he was struggling but appeared to be getting over it, she took advantage of someone in early recovery (1/2)

11 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

If not for her, it seems incredibly unlikely that he would have done anything. She is a murderer, 100%.

11 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

Agreed. As the girlfriend of a guy who had attempted suicide multiple times, I can't imagine actually encouraging someone. It's horrific.

11 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 1

Unfortunately people do this. Some former friends kept trying to make me kill myself, told me I could at least finish the job next time etc

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I feel like this is an older story. Anyone have an update with whether or not she got what was coming to her?

11 years ago | Likes 93 Dislikes 3

"brainwashed"...

11 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

Yeah, what the fuck?

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Oh my god... The part about her messaging his mom saying she tried everything to make sure he didn't kill himself... So fucked up.

11 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

Next court date is October 2nd.

11 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

How did they start to suspect her?

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

True! If like to know that to? Maybe that searched his computer for a reason why he did it?

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

She bragged to a friend, and the friend reported her

11 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

Thank god for that friend. I keep my mouth shut for my friends but not murder or deliberately hurting someone. Fucking sad

11 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

I battle with depression myself, so i implore any imgurian who sees this comment, talk to me brothers/sisters. You are not alone.

11 years ago | Likes 218 Dislikes 8

I have never been diagnosed with depression, but I have had moments in the past where I have been feeling suicidal, and felt a strange (1/2)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

(2/2) sense of numbness. Thankfully I've had less issues lately, but reading this story breaks my heart and I feel a huge amount of rage...

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The whole talking about it thing is nice, I myself make "friends" on wow and eventually build up to the point where i can talk about it 1/2

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Them, people like you are a really big help. 2/2

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm also here for anyone who needs to chat. I'm five years since my suicide attempt and four years since my last self harm. PM me ❤

11 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

Congrats! Stopping self-injury is one of the hardest things I've ever done, and I'm only about 1.5 years cutting-free.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You can do this. Stay strong! It gets easier with time.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I have Bipolar II and I've worked in psych for 5 years. Battled anorexia, self-injury, addiction...if anyone needs to talk, I'm also here.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I have personality dissorder and have had anorexia/bulimia and addictions. I tried killing myself two times. Doing better now.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

but that girl is sick... who would do such a thing

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I dunno. I'm surrounded by family but feel alone all the time.

11 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

I felt the same way for years, I love my family and to be 100% honest they saved my life!

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I grew up in a family of six. As big and close as we all were, I still felt like they were so far away. I know now that feeling was wrong.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I'm the same, but I don't talk to my family much. I'm so alone.. It's tearing me apart.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Don't give up.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

True loneliness is feeling alone even when surrounded by others. But having another lonely person to talk to can make all difference. PM me.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Do you see anyone professionally? It honestly helps some people.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Besides that there are a whole community of people in this post alone that you can talk to. Don't worry about bugging any of us :)

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I don't but I'm starting to think it's something I have to do. I've been trying to battle depression alone for years now.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sometimes the people closest to us can feel the furthest away. It's good, i feel, to talk to someone from a place like this...

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

...because we are removed from your day to day life, and have no other reason to talk other than legitimate compassion.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It's disgusting knowing that she pushed the poor kid into suicide and he even backed out. All for attention. She deserves to rot.

11 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 5

I wish I could somehow go back in time and be a friend he clearly needed. Maybe she would dissappear who knows time travel can be tricky

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Youre not the only one. I wish we could all help him.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's so very sad wrongs like this can't be put right, she could rot her whole life it would never erase the immense pain he must have felt

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Reading these comments make me glad imgurians don't make the laws/punishments of criminals.

11 years ago | Likes 60 Dislikes 18

It's understandable for people to be passionate about certain things. A lot of the time it's nothing more than giving vent to frustrations.

11 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 2

She spent months coaxing him. Searched different ways to commit suicide on her HOME computer. Fully understand before you judge Us as wrong

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Rofl. I do fully understand, pitchfork mob justice is still wrong.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

True, but tbh she's a fucking cunt.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

Hissing for justice through the forked tongues of your inner demons. Isn't life poetic.

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

That was poetic af

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Usually I'd agree, but this one deserves it. This cunt is just a monster, plain and simple.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

Mob justice is a scary, scary thing.

11 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 3

I took the black beard keelhual approach

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Having lost my Son last year to suicide, this fucking sickens me.

11 years ago | Likes 1421 Dislikes 17

Very sorry for your loss.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm so sorry for your loss

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

sorry for your loss

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This is sickening. He was desperate for help and she coaxed him into making a huge mistake for her own benefit . W.T.F.

11 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

No parent should have to bury their child. I'm so sorry for your loss.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My dad took his life a year ago Monday. So yeah this pisses me off a hell of a lot

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My heart breaks for you. I am in a great support group for Survivors After Suicide. It is a struggle every day, but we can do this.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

being a human being, this sickens me. I can't begin to imagine how you would be feeling.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

On January 21st of 2015, the only person that I ever truly trusted took their life via overdose. I have never been the same. I only hurt now

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My heart breaks for you. I am in a great support group for Survivors After Suicide. It is a struggle every day, but we can do this.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I am so sorry. Lost a best friend to suicide, and her mother has been so, so strong since then. She has been so good to me and so positive.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm so so sorry for your loss. Yes, this girl and this situation is disgusting.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Thank you

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

having lost half of my closest friends, and nearly both myself and my partner, to suicide, this fucking sickens me

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm sorry about your son. This girl is evil.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Yes, she is.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

This sickens everyone.. Sorry about your loss my friend

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thanks

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I came close to losing my boyfriend to it. I'm so sorry about your son.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Fuck, this hits home, I'm so sorry for your loss. This girl is a piece of shit, I am in disbelief that someone could do this

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm so fucking sorry man, I can't even begin to think how horrible it would be to lose a child, Stay strong bro.

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I'll be honest; it's a hurt like no other, but I work hard now to help awareness. Thank you for your words.

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I attempted suicide about 2 years ago, I honestly can't bring myself to read this. Brings back incredibly painful memories.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Please continue healing. We need you and you are loved.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Having had thoughts of suicide myself, fuck her. I hope she rots in prison.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I give you my condolences.My heart goes out to you and your family

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Having tried suicide and being really glad I fucked up, I couldn't even read this.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Glad you're still here.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thank you.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sorry for your loss.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Having lost no one to suicide this fucking sickens me.

11 years ago | Likes 74 Dislikes 1

Great, you made me laugh. I wonder what hell is like

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Well said.

11 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

I am so deeply sorry. I can't imagine.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

:( sorry to hear that

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sorry to hear about your son :(

11 years ago | Likes 179 Dislikes 1

Thanks. I'm not after points or notice. I've fought hard this last year to help bring attention to mental illness and suicide, 1/2

11 years ago | Likes 63 Dislikes 1

and people like this girl need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

11 years ago | Likes 53 Dislikes 1

Agreed

11 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

Thank you.

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Blessings mama. My heart breaks for you.

11 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

Thank you. (I'm Papa though, but you made me smile)

11 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

...and since I'm here, I want to share my Son. (No points please. Just awareness.)

11 years ago | Likes 270 Dislikes 5

I can't imagine. I'm so sorry, we all care for you and thank you for showing us that handsome man. All respect to you my friend.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

he was a hansome man. I can't even fathom such a loss. Thank you for sharing.

11 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 1

Brought tears to my eyes. Parents are not meant to bury their children.

11 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Eugh, he looks like a friend of mine. I know that's not what I should be taking from it, and I get that it happens to people of all stripes,

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

but it's different when it's staring back at you, I guess.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He was so handsome. I lost my dad to suicide but I cannot imagine losing my child. I am so sorry for your loss.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sorry for your loss. I can't even imagine that kind of pain.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

As a mother I can't begin to imagine your heartbreak. I'm so sorry.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

The points aren't for you, they're because we want you to see that we care.

11 years ago | Likes 95 Dislikes 2

Brilliant!

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Thank you. From the bottom of my heart.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Well said.

11 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 2

Your username really killed the mood for me, just saying...

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

im sorry no. that is voluntary manslaughter if i has my way ide tie a rope around her and throw her over the front of a boat the barnacles>

11 years ago | Likes 71 Dislikes 18

That's actually what being Keel Hauled is. So +1 for you.

11 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 5

I believe the term you are looking for is "keelhaul".

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

Maybe the prosecutor decided to nail her for sure on involuntary rather than take a chance on her walking on voluntary.

11 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

I guess it won't matter too much anyway when/if she gets out of prison. Everyone is going to know about it by then, and shit will go down.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 5

Ugh unfortunately you might be right.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Does that stuff really happen? Go for a lesser charge because it has a better chance of sticking?

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Seriously that happens constantly especially on dubious murder charges. (Wife enables the killer kind of thing) It can depend on evidence

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's how a lot of plea deals work. They'll take the guaranteed conviction on a lesser charge to avoid the risk of them walking free.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

So then why not prosecute for the greater charge and have them take the plea deal anyway? They might not accept the plea deal?

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm no lawyer but I think most plea deals are offered before the DA presents their official charge. If they pursue a higher charge and 1/?

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Think of it this way. Would you go for something you are almost sure will stick, or do you go something that could have a higher chance

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

of simply letting her off the hook? It's unfortunate, but sometimes its a compromise that has to be made.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

All the time, it's how a lot of criminals walk away with metaphorical slaps on the wrists

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Holy shit, that's kind of messed up. I don't see how that's fair. If they're not nailed for a charge bc of "severity", they should drop down

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But, who decides what the charge should be? Most defendants would insist on murder one because it's a lot harder to prove. Look at OJ.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is some criminal minds shit

11 years ago | Likes 967 Dislikes 5

Saturday night...I'm literally watching tons of episodes right now.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It could honestly have been the plot of some fucked up horror movie and I wouldn't know it was based on a real story.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

My wife just discovered and had become obsessed with it. Its actually made me paronoid already . I was walking my son in the stoller 1)

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

And this lady pulled up in her car asking if I've seen her dog, i started to step away from the stroller to hear her, then I remembered 2)

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

An episode where a women creates fiversion to kidnap kid, step back and grabbed hold of the stroller

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Like there was an actual episode where a guy convinced people to kill themselves this way

11 years ago | Likes 84 Dislikes 0

I'm re watching it, can you remember the season and ep?

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The Following is a whole series about this.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I remember that! Some srs noep going on in that show. Like the Gardening Woman? Fuck me..

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

There was a similar episode of Sherlock

11 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Wasn't it the first one?

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

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11 years ago (deleted Jun 9, 2017 12:00 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Yes, thats what he is talking about

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

She should be prosecuted for first degree murder. This was premeditated psychological torture. She's a disgusting individual

11 years ago | Likes 1061 Dislikes 24

TBH I find that significantly worse then just murder. She tortured and killed him instead of just killing him.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Agreed. Although I understand that the American system works differently. :/

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Getting away with murder is pretty easy here if you know how to work life. Helps if you're female.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Sadly because she did not treaten him with any physical harm and made sure not to be anywhere near, the worst she can get is manslaughter

11 years ago | Likes 44 Dislikes 0

Most states have laws against anyone but a doctor assisting suicide for exactly this kind of reason.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I guess not..

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

what's the worst she could get for that in her state ? hopefully she gets that

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

And max punishment. She pushed him, he wanted to back out

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Probably involuntary manslaughter. Acting with a wanton or reckless disregard for the harm that could result from her actions.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Then the burden of proof is much higher. Often charges reflect what the prosecution thinks they can prove.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I know, I was just quickly expressing my anger. Clearly she wouldn't be convicted of murder, but that doesn't mean she didn't murder him IMO

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Prosecuted yes, first degree murder no. Not even close.

11 years ago | Likes 69 Dislikes 15

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

This definitely fits in the category of first degree murder. What's your reasoning for saying no?

11 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 22

Someone could say this shit to me for years and I would be like "k" the dude was clearly already planning on doing it.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

She did not cause the death of another, in any non-figurative sense

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Because in the end it was still suicide. Coerced suicide surely but she didn't physically harm him or kill him, she merry coerced him to

11 years ago | Likes 51 Dislikes 1

And by past rules I can definitely understand why it wouldn't be, but for the purpose of future cases, it could change things.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

I don't think there's a precedence. Something like this could be argued into a 1st degree charge. With as forceful as she was...

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 5

The weapon was Condrads insecurity and depression, and Michelle wielded it expertly.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

You have a flare for drama. I legit thought of Cam from modern family. :)

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Mostly the reason for not prosecuting it as murder is because it is not murder. It is reprehensible, but under a different name.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If they attempted to convict on murder, she would rightfully get off. It is like trying someone for shoplifting when they robbed a house.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Kill himself. Ergo first degree isn't likely. A jury will never convict on 1st degree. Better to go with a lesser charge and a higher

11 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

allowed to live in this society with her blatant disregard for human life. Didn't have time to go into the details yesterday.Was just pissed

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Understandably. But at the end of the day the law cannot reflect our feelings, only the facts.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

And I understand that, I was saying what I, as a logical human being, can learn from this situation. Which is that she shouldn't be 1/2

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

In my opinion this isn't even a crime as much as you want it to be. The first amendment is pretty strong guys.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 9

I understand that there's a difference between what can be proven and what is blatantly true. Her actions, IMO, directly lead to his death.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Man you really don't know what that means do you?

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

criminal prosecution. I am the staunchest proponent of the 1st amendment but given that he left the car and she brow beat him into returning

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

i would say there is a strong case for criminal indifference and manslaughter.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Eh, it transgressed into more than freedom of speech when she actively harassed him. That's the part that brings it into the realm of

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Note ZERO FUCKING REMORSE!!! http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/29/13/292D860100000578-0-image-a-15_1432902005512.jpg

11 years ago | Likes 1027 Dislikes 18

That's a face I'd just love to punch until it's black and blue.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

What a hideous cunt.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I want to bitch slap and knock her the fuck out with that face.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Well if you show remorse, you show guilt, but I guess it's not the case here...

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This girl is clearly a cold hearted fucking murderer. She needs to be locked away from society.

11 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Whether jail or an asylum, she does need to be seperated from society (potentially) forever

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Absolute cunt. I don't usually support the death sentence, but in this case I can't imagine prison being enough.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I don't get it. Why do people think the death penalty is the harshest penalty? You can't feel anything when you are dead. A life behind bars

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Is much worse

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Ok, I think this woman is a deplorable human being, but I also think it's stupid to find a random trial photo and decide how she feels.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

I hope she becomes someone's bitch in jail.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

That's such a punchable face..

11 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Normally i'm against torture.

11 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

Im not. Want to join

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Sure.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

She looks like Yoda, so at least she has to live with that. What a piece of human refuse.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Off topic, but she has a really big forehead. Kind of reminds me of these pictures http://imgur.com/67fzmRH

11 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Underrated post here.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I know you shouldn't wish bad things on people but I hope she dies a slow slow painful death

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I did not know that a face exists that would, specifically, make me want to smash it in with a frozen fish. This is apparently that face.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

From the messages: agree. But I really dislike when people use a single image to characterize someone. It's a little groundless...

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

on top of that I looked through several photos from this hearing. She looks about the same in all of them.

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I looked into her when I first heard about this last month. I researched. She is a horrible individual that told ppl he ran away and had her

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

friends delete her texts so that she wouldn't look responsible. (this was before he killed himself) this was premeditated.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Yeah, that's what I got from the messages, too.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

She could totally be at Starbucks right now

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Fucking evil cunt. I wish I could get her alone in a room for 5 minutes. I don't give a fuck if she's a woman.

11 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 7

Don't bother yourself with shits like her. That's what they want, any type of attention. Any reason to play the victim. It's fucking sick.

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Let the women handle that bitch. We can be very sadistic when we need. Plus we're good at getting blood out of things

11 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

She's kinda ugly --

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Regardless of her looks she is an ugly person.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

She will be having some when she rots in jail thinking about what got her there.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

she likely wont if that is the case though. She will never feel bad for it and will probably make a life in prison

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If we as society cant somehow convince her not to be a dickwad she will have to stay in there.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Anyone that's complaining that 1 photo doesn't proof she wasn't remorseful. Well a Picture is worth a thousand words, so heres another:

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

I'm confused. You think this picture you just linked shows her being not remorseful?

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

She has the same look as a person listening to a friend explain bedmas(aka math)

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I honestly think she deserves life or death sentence.

11 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 4

There would be no question to this if she weren't a cute girl

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

lol that's cute?

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

nice hair, clear skin, and young... courts try to say people like her shouldnt be held accountable due to looking innocent.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I hope that's a joke.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

She is a girl but definitely not cute. Ugly as fuck IMO

11 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

I agree. She has a nasty stank face and absolutely no soul.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I hope this fucking cunt rots in jail and then burns in hell.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Believing that its acceptable to make someone commit suicide, then proceed to profit from it is over the fucking line. (End)

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Im against many forms of aggression, and generally advocate for peaceful solutions, but this time, Im not. (1)

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

GAWD she has such a bitch face I want to punch

11 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 0

Resting Bathory Face

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

don't hurt your wonderful hands. Curb stomp that bitch!

11 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Well said!

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Apparently she's went to her senior prom and on a trip to Disney land while awaiting her trial.... Absolutely no remorse.

11 years ago | Likes 64 Dislikes 1

they should look into her parents too.... a lot of this mentality is taught. It sickens me that she is being rewarded for horrible deeds

11 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 1

And the fact that neither her nor her parents think she did anything wrong is disturbing

11 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 0

told you. you are what you learn.

11 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

So I am the powerhouse of a cell?

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

If she's anything like someone I used to know who tried something similar,there's a chance she's mentally ill. This person was. Victim lived

11 years ago | Likes 49 Dislikes 4

...and the one who tried it is a fairly normal adult now, with a clean criminal record. Internet wasn't much of a thing back then.

11 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 1

Thats not an illness. Its a mental disorder at best, and it doesnt justify jack fucking shit.

11 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

This person was ill at the time and probably should have been locked up. I'm not saying it's a justification, but it can contribute.

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Oh well if theres an actual mental disease put in... Still wouldnt find any reason to lower the punishment.

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Pedo's, serial killers and rapist have something wrong with them too. Doesnt mean they shouldn't be charged and punished

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

So I know logically it's wrong to kill a killer, and it makes me no better than them if I do. That being said, I want her fucking crucified.

11 years ago | Likes 70 Dislikes 4

Let's just place her in a mental asylum for the rest of her life.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Naw thats to kind friend. Her toture must be long, painful and drawn out

11 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 7

Hot oil or the rack?

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

...crucifixion is literally one of the worst ways to die.

11 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

So far.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oh no, to keep her alive would be the best thing. Just to make her torture the most painful thing. Life support torture is the best!

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Oh hun, I don't want her to die. Death is too merciful. I want her to live a long life of complete torture and misery.

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Lock her in solitary for max (20yrs in MA). Then let her go. She will walk into a completely new world with nothing, not even her sanity.

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Life in a North Korean gulag?

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Has a case study been done on her? She's sick and horrible and all that shit. But I'd like to read a psych consult on her.

11 years ago | Likes 102 Dislikes 0

IMO she's a sociopath. I've worked in acute psychiatric facilities for 5 years and this isn't mental illness, it's a sociopath.

11 years ago | Likes 74 Dislikes 0

Sociopathy isn't mental illness?

11 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 1

It's not an illness as it's usually nonviolent. As a sociopath, I could care less about most people that aren't me, judgement works though.

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's Axis II, personality disorder. It's not physiologically based. It's *technically* mental illness, but there's shit you can do about it

11 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

That is NOT to say all Axis II disorders are not treatable, Borderline Personality can be (if caught early) but Anti-Social Personality...no

11 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Having met a few sociopaths, yes very much. Glad this one was dumb enough to get caught.

11 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 0

That I'm thankful for, they're often quite intelligent which is fucking terrifying.

11 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

What a cunt. Sorry for that word but it's the one that fits her best.

11 years ago | Likes 170 Dislikes 7

I'm not a meteorological-gynecologist but I know a Thunder-Cunt when I see one...

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

cunts give pleasure, cunts are life ...i think insulting her is not worthwhile, i just contempt her, she's not worth any emotional feelings

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I wish I could do that because I agree w/u that she isn't worth getting all worked up over. I just can't. It fills me w/too much such rage!

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Don't be sorry.

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

If you have a word that perfectly describes someone, you shouldn't feel sorry ;)

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Fully agree!

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

people think it's okay to insult others by referring to human genitalia? what a bunch of dicks!

11 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I like the sarcasm. +1

11 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Shes worse than a cunt. I want to tie her up give her a sun burn, rub a535 on the burn and force her to eat her own shit

11 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 5

I'd sew her asshole shut and keep feeding her and feeding her and feeding her.

11 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Ooooooooo nice. But insert poison oak up her butt first before sewing her shut

11 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Chipotle right?

11 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

*high five* hell ya

11 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Wow that was descriptive! I love it!

11 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

she needs to know what its like to be her own victim. She was probably the kid that went around biting people & hurting animals 4 pleasure

11 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

I couldn't agree more with u. I like that, "she needs to know what it's like to be her own victim." What an absolute soulless, subhuman cunt

11 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0