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IbPalle
Interesting using Tolkien as reference. There is no religion in Middle Earth.
DameDePiques
Even more interesting : there are gods, and yet no religion.
Shaodyn
Telling people they suck isn't the way to get them to convert. It's weird, but insulting people makes them LESS likely to do what you say.
NYC2BrklynCubz
LabyrinthBuilder
Ehm
DigiT00l
Those are asexual characters, like quite literally, they may be homoromantic, but they are asexual
I mean that as in, Gaiman writes his angels to be sexless, like they quite literally do not have the parts needed to fuck
BurrhusBacchus
ValidGirthCertificate
I think that person wouldn't like my buddies fan fiction. Im sorry but Jesus was cool with women. But all of his 12 follower were men.
JhericFury
If your God says gay people aren't allowed to be happy, he's not my god, regardless of whether he exists.
hackller
religion's all made up anyway!
theawake
Also? Tolkien's work is highly homoromantic. Fascists are weird.
Decemberscrow
Every time I see Neil Gaiman social media like this it gives me motivation to write so I too can become an epic writer who DGAF.
Mr. Gaiman, this shutting off of imgur and writing the rest of my comute is in your honor.
kikaria115
Lol and here I was so confused why EA was talking negativity about gay sex when they fuck everyone in the ass all the time.
trikucian
Clearly Neil Gaiman's next book is going to be supernatural gay erotica, and I'm all here for it
AgamemnonsMemes
"Stop writing about gay sex" Neil: "You know what, i'm going to write about gay sex even harder..."
Betterbecauseofthem
Yeah. Accept Jesus Christ, convert to Christianity & molest children. Nothing wrong there
T410N
If God didn't want children molested, why does the church protect pedophiles? /s
zysis
Hey now, Jews, Muslims and even Scientologists aren't immune to kiddy fiddlers in their ranks. Read the Koran or check Seinfelds' wifes age
Neurisko
Only someone who is secretly gay or bi would insist that homo sex is a lifestyle choice.
ToonamiT0M
FranticRed
**caveat : I like Tolkein, LOTR, The Hobbit, etc** ...however, Tolkein wrote the Dragonball Z of fantasy. Great story... when it moves.
CaldariBob
Besides... Sam & Frodo? ?noredirect
mormacil
BluePaladin42
Bilbo remained a bachelor all his life, and that was basically code for gay for Tolkien's time period. Just sayin'.
WilliamHuskerAdama
There were several early drafts of TFotR that referenced Bilbo getting married and having kids.
And yet, those aren't the ones he decided to use...
No, he decided not to reference his sexuality at all. Saying "He's a bachelor so clearly he was gay" is just silly
HarrisonTheViking
Bilbo is a hobbit and I think that means his sexuality doesn't matter because all the other Hobbits would be fine with it
Not what's being discussed here, but agreed?
The shire is the ideal paradise
mity0k23
A blogger with 113 followers talking shit to Gaiman. Epic. Also, has anyone heard a gay person obsess about “straight” sex?
WhichIsIt
If follower count matters, Justin Bieber’s opinion is among the most important
ToSisPoS
I always hear ranting about the heterosexual agenda.
nipplepanties
Just young internet gays. Very snippy and holier than thou. Though it's likely due to age and immaturity.
starkraven13
I don't think you've heard a straight person obsess about gay sex either. The proverbial closet is full of these people.
The latter point notwithstanding, I imagine a lot of the gay-bashers are straight.
Karukos
I know a straight dude who obsesses over Lesbian porn... does that count?
keillrandor
I resemble that remark... Considering I'm not getting any with anyone, I might aswell watch what I know I like (women).
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NotTheSameAnymore
Huh, always thought that was only a Pornhub category.
DatDarthCaedus
That's also used by non-gay people who are against people having children for various reasons, or are specifically mocking people whose 1/
only "accomplishment" in life is to have children, tho.
eadanke
I knew one lesbian obsessed with straight men masturbating to gay sex. Does that count?
I imagine she was positively obsessed, so probably not.
She was annoyed by the fetishization of homosexuality. I doubt she would have supported stopping people from doing it though.
GandalfTheGhey
whoa
Took me some time to understand what I was seeing, but... wow!
HonkeyKawng
I know this is not the point, and maybe an unpopular opinion, but while Tolkien was a great storyteller, he was not actually a good writer.
SteveTheEgg
The Hibbut is amazing, LOTR is romantic drivel and everything else is as lively as a college history book. Good stories, but terrible format
ElBurroLoco
The Hibbut? This gave me vowel cancer.
Nikolai5
Yeah, but it doesn't matter, we enjoy his work. Christians reference him because they like to co-opt his work.
AdrianDunne
I don't like poetry all that much, so I don't get on well with LotR.
Agreed. Simarillion or w/e is such a convoluted and drawn out story that it's hard to remember the actual events because Tolkien rambles
rshini
Wasn't it basically incomplete and cobbled together from his notes?
Allrighty
You have to consider what he's trying to do there, which is create a new mythology. He's going for a certain style and register.
Tbf, he wasn't done with it, he needed to write a bit more and edit the entire thing, but he kinda suffered an existence failure
Yeah true is was a collective work and Tolkien wasn't exactly one to sell to publishers on time or even what they wanted from him.
CeruleanK
I think there's a pattern of it. A Great Story is so simple that it must be padded with bad writing to make it long enough to be recognized.
Like, look at Moby-Dick, it's interminable and unreadable, so thank logos it can be summed up in ten seconds and still sink into our culture
It extends to other media, like no one would see Undertale's "great story" if it didn't have extremely long walks full of bullshit
GeorgeCostabaplaps
Logos = God, but God made butt-sex possible - plus space-docking, rimming your caesar and BDSM so checkmate
shotty814
Fengor
As Gene Wilder said in his role as Willy Wonka "My dear, if God intended for us to walk he wouldn't have invented roller-skates."
BabyBumbleBee3
Christians would say it was the devil who perverted the butt for such things, sauce I unfortunately gre up in a homophobic church. >
Hey you're lucky you learned it was the butt before you were 14. I grew up Catholic, so I just thought gay dudes mashed dicks. Lol
Quixus
If the devil could do that God either is not omnipotent or maliciously let it happen, assuming he isn't fine with it anyway.
Agreed. It makes no sense for a "Loving God" to allow even a fraction of the evils exist in the world.
For the record, I am very much pride friendly now, somehow grew up not thinking like them.
FoxyEllie
we two are of soul
AmZero85
Christianity created anti-gay policy as a reaction to Roman and Greek religions which were cool with it. 1/2
The leviticus verse they pull has been mistranslated and was most likely a rule against pedophilia. 2/2
ExTechOp
If you are going to follow Leviticus, you really need tassels (tzitzit) with blue thread on your cloak. Jesus said 10 commandments suffice.
NT: Jesus never mentions homosexuality or such acts. Only one with issues perhaps Paul, who used to be a traditional Jew and never met J.
Youhavinagiraffe
Logos = Off brand plastic toy construction bricks
MouseKeyboard
...space-docking?
Thisisirrelvantcontent
Google it... but no... google it
hwatL4bloopy
What logos ?
Cilvaa
I thought they meant the hovership in The Matrix..
madcatii
I feel like starting a chain: Logos, the Elven archer from The Lord of the Rings.
TheAziz
No no, that's Legolas. Logos is world famous Danish toy company.
TurduckenMcNugget
No no, that's Legos. Logos is a city in Nigeria.
GlebReawer
From wikipedia Logos: In Christology, the Logos is a name or title of Jesus Christ, seen as the pre-existent second person of the Trinity.
singedrino
Oh, boy, I love that the whole name of Jesus is the same title just in different forms... etymology is cool
Override9636
You gotta make the title of your messiah cool when his name is basically the Aramaic version of "Josh".
Notuniquesnowflake
I had to Google it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos_(Christianity)
How many fucking names does he have?!
sphericalworld
He was originally the god of war and then they turned him into the lovey lovey god.
wobblecopterrrr
Jesus was hella woke
FetaForMoses
Took him like three days.
jimcake
He's a sleepy guy.
KungFuAnimeJesus
Neil Gayman sex…
TheYoungerChrisEvans
*Kneel
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
There's *certain* people who would pay good money for that.... and by *certain* and *people* I mean me
MrOne2
Gay Neilman
reverendbonobo
Kneel, gay man.
1morebanforafreeshake
More gay sex in protest of the church. v
ambiantlight
Its what Jesus and his harem of 12 men would have wanted.
Echo18
Make like Martin Luther and get nailed against a church door.
FailureFactory
Martin Luther was the one nailing, though. (Also the church door thing is historically inaccurate, but whatever.)
ssweenCreator
v
MatthewJohnsona
https://preview.redd.it/kj7vjvuj2oz81.gif?format=mp4&s=256dbd8a18c8f693f9c781beafe9409e1778310c
HeywouldJablowme
I wish I had that gif of a giant gay sex pile from South Park to drive away the time travelers to respond. Imgur, Do your thing
aRepost
Back in the pile everyone!
darkslyde
Meqad
Magma45
If you’re talking about the Catholic Church, gay (underage) sex might not be a much of a protest.
SODOMY FOR SANCTITY!
IN THE SACRISTY!
NachtReborn
ON A SACRED DAY!
With Alanis Morresit on a tricycle
Ooooopppphhhh...nice one
kojenk
Ive always seen those cases as being similar to prison. its more about dominance and control by those establishing authority in a microbiom
LumpPump
thanks for the proof then thats its even more fucked up than we had feared. really fitting& no surprise tho for a guilt trip cult(religion)
Gutpilegutezeit
Noahbalboa82
Jesus that’s Erotic
drunkbs
caerulakid
I legit wanna know who the model is in this picture cause he kinda makes me wanna try Christianity out. That’s really fucking impressive.
komododave
HollywoodHells
Ah. The good Dave yeeteth the meme and I yoinketh it away.
Thewayofthebear
JohnPtempkinReborn
RaytheForgetful
What the fuuuuck
homoerection
Nailed it
NOOOOO
TheMouseOfMadness
I've never met a gay person that thinks about gay sex as much as right wing christians do
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
That's cause you don't think about the things you get regularly.
RandAIFlagg
As a bi man with a hot boyfriend I don't think about gay sex as much as right wing christians do
CthuluChan
I think of having sex with another woman at least 10 times an hour
PolyTheWicked
I’ve met a few who were close, but right wing Christian nutjobs are absolutely obsessed with it.
rbudrick
The gayest thing is being overly concerned with what members of your own sex do with their genitals.
ReallyNotAVampire
So you lied then. Cuz they very often are gay.
Shoutrr
that's because they think of gay relationship as only and purely sexual in nature.
capughe
No love or commitment, just debauchery and disease. Also assume a projection of the Church's own predatory/conversion behavior.
Not that I am against ethical commitment free sex or debauchery, it just doesn't describe every relationship, and the church is against it.
Ihadtoditchmyotherusernamebecauseofyou
I for one welcome a bit of debauchery sprinkled in with actual love and commitment.
Syovere
I fully support ethical sluttery, myself.
Ikusame
That's how they think of straight relationships. Just for sex, baby making, and having a pair of titties to watch the baby.
it's the usual conservative trait of assuming "they must do it because it's what i'd do". it's usually applied to illegal stuff, because
they are trash people.
Abominablesloth
All day they dream about Dicks
NorthmanoftheNorth
Imagine being gay and denying yourself what you covet the most though. It's not weird that they're so fixated about it.
If they’re protesting that loudly, they are 100 in the closet and thinking about gay sex 24/7.
It can't be nearly as much as I think about regular sex with a super hot chick with a nice ass. Just easier. Like hey dude, wanna fuck? Yea!
PalaverQuader
aha. so u think switching into a minority group aka NOT SO MANY will give you MORE opportunity to have sex? yeah.. well.. math ! my dude. >
cause these minorities come with ALL the flaws the majorities come with aswell. all the things that are "no go" for you apply there aswell.>
u dont broaden your sexual possibilities, u narrow them down... because, i know its hard to imagine, interhuman relationships are not ONLY>
dictated by "who puts which part in whose orifices" but also.. like feelings.. not fucky fucky urges. darn those fucky fucky urges.
Gay dudes have it made.
thatiswhyyoushoulddoityourself
I can assure you, we have types, and most of us can get quite picky about our partners.
Bi Dude here, you think they have it made...
allihearisnoise
Which is a stereotype built by those who wish to dehumanise and vilify gay and queer ppl
CowboyRooster
I mean, some aspects are simpler, but it's also kinda awkward to find someone to bonk sometimes, unless you want to aggressively announce /
your sexuality everywhere you go. So there's that.
Xasax1
You've never been on Grindr, I take it?
UrKungFuNoGood
then you don't know many gay guys because they are by far the horniest fuckers around
cottontailvestments
I assume by your use if “they” that you are not in fact a a “gay guy.” I happen to be and can say that we are portrayed as/
Being much hornier than we actually are. I think we just have less hang ups about sex than our heteronormative counterparts.
Well I did ten years in various drama troupes including a couple of years in San Francisco so my anecdotal experience might be extreme lol
greentights
I wonder if it's cuz gay sex won't result in babies or that you've the same parts so the sex is just better from practice
Gayforbae
Yes and
Yes, we are, and yet right wing Christians seem to far out strip us in thinking about gay sex.
BentwanJameson
At least, according to your agenda, you guys take off Tuesdays for tacos and Sundays for brunch. Christians certainly don't.
proof there is no God!
I always tell them "if you look at me and think of butt stuff I have some bad news for you buddy"
If I feel like smashing some guy's nose through the back of his head I'll see if I can provoke with-
"Just because you want to suck MY dick it doesn't make me gay" No takers but probably because I'm a 240 lb 3rd generation Marine
sherlockdata
FalcorTheUrinator
When they THINK no one is watching them lol
andrewcmoffitt0
They love it sooo much it makes them mad.
Daaaaaang. They must be relentless if they think of it more than I do.
the real butt pirates.
arlet
i work with some of these people, it's not hyperbole. every day. they find a way to bring it up in conversation ever single day.
Axianamos
Is it every 7 seconds?
pumly
It depends … would you think about it more, or less if weren’t getting any? But maybe you’re not. Or they are. #exasperatedshrugmeme
SecondToNine
I've heard they think about it a lot and they have to punish themselves for their sinful thoughts. With a whip.
mmm yeah!! imagine where the BDSM world would be without the catholic church! torturing like amateurs they would be!
ksac62
ProcrastinatorMasturnater
And then they get real confused when the whip starts turning them on.
JangoF76
We punish each other a lot too
blackguard89
yeah but you have a safe word
you guys have a safe word?
hasgreatsituationalawareness
They tell on themselves a lot, don't they?
DooksandPooks
Closeted gay Christian’s become the worst bullies. All they really need to do is be taught how to love themselves. #Jerk it for Jesus
OseaDidNothingWrong
Damn son, I think about gay sex a shitload, they do it more than me??
monikir
I have to stay vigilant or Satan will put thoughts of me getting a rim job at a pilot gas station from a 300 lb trucker named Bucky :s
LetsEatGrandpaCommasSaveLives
Facts.
Beezlebubble
One of the bartenders I bounce at is gay - super nice guy, and I've talked with him and tried to help him with his most recent relationship
Problems - don't think I can recall him talking about sex more than once other than to say he and his partner were really compatible.
Now people who are super homophobic? It's ALL they seem to talk about. What a strange obsession
kakkiainen790
in Finland we have this sayin, that goes like; If You are relentlesly talking about it, then You are lacking of it, and You really want it.
TheCharedLizard
You've obviously never been in a furry telegram chat
I run several, and I grew up in the rural south in a small town with waaaay too many churches. My statement stands.
dirtcreature
Or priests, apparently. Let's not pretend that decades, if not centuries of abuse continues to this day.
HaveYouHuggedYourUndertakerToday
Great book about this called "The Sex Lives of the Popes". It has never not happened in the history of the church.
CoarseAndSalty
I feel like you have but you were like "No way this guy is gay, he's so homophobic, that would be unreasonable!"
decomposingcomposers
I most certainly have, but I get your point and still agree.
dennisbatt
As an LGBTQ+ person, it's just sex. We think of it as frequently as you do.
kittyanya
I'm bi-curious and barely think about it. Busy living and playing WoW and Minecraft. Also Covid sucks.
ErniesWidow
Every accusation is a confession
ArandomDane
In Denmark We have up to 500 that not even your right wingers can beat of. I know this because "Constant risk of HIV from new partners" 1/2
CommentBot3000
I'm going to politely ask you to rephrase this, as I have no clue what you're saying. Maybe an article or something?
Government PrEP budget is to 500people. You need to prove to a doctor that you constantly have unprotected sex with a high risk group (1/2)
(2/2) Aka have their life revolve around sex with a segment of the gay community. Source is a Danish documentary on the subject.
2/3 and "sex driver to the point that condom is not used with at risk demographic" is part of the requirement to get PrEP for free.
3/3 The doctors are apparently required to make sure as the drug costs $50 000 per person per year
100KushUps
As a not random Dane, source?
Det var en dr dokumetar men jeg huskede forkert med prissen der er kun 25 000dkr om året ikke om måneden. MEn kan ikke finde den. Start 1/2
2/2 her https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/martin-tager-hver-dag-en-pille-der-beskytter-ham-mod-hiv hvis du selv vil lede samme mand...
bubbawasmybestgoodfriend
if God didn't want men to have gay sex then why did he put their g-spot in their butt
adage009
Check mate atheists
HandoB4Javert
Molvanian
Maybe God is into pegging?
EggsaretheDevil
Sounds old fashioned. You don't have to be gay to enjoy but stuff.
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
God is omnipresent. He's IN the g-spot in the butt.
ThePretentiousGentleman
That’s why trans women are a blessing for straight cis men. Finally! A woman we can bring to climax!
Lampmonster
This is the same god that forbade shellfish after making them out of lobster and crab meat!
I'm convinced that was like a local thing because someone in the tribe had a shellfish allergy and it got mistranslated to the larger lore.
I've read an argument that both the shellfish and the mixed clothes rules are to prevent interacting with traders and sailors who were -
- often also slavers and would kidnap people of the tribe to press into slavery.
sturm24
Good point
SBlueberry
Thought you said Good Spot
good point ; G-Spot .. same-same ?
HerrHat
Go ahead. You can stick your finger there. Try to find the spot.
MarioBoon
You fool, if the g-spot doesn't exist in women, why would it exist in men? /s
Zacb0
It’s almost as if God didn’t do anything because he’s just like the Easter bunny and santy clause
CGWN
PlanetOfIce
Oh no did someone hurt your feelings? You should pray about it
MrNardtastic
The point was god is a man made construct. Make believe. Not real. Fake. Doesn't exist. Never did. It was a pretty clear point actually.
songbringer
So I am gay, just because I like amazing buttsex?
EmptyHouseBurglar
I know you're kidding, but if not: See Klein, his scale, and really all the more recent theory on sex and relationships.
No... Just that God *wants* you to be gay.
tcpolecat7
Nah, you could always get a girl with a strap-on to peg you.
Where is the "sexuality-chart" when u need one?
DaveSamsonite
find the typo and you will find release
XarioWithoutALastName
No, but it's easy and convenient. But you're right, amazing butt Sex is possible for anyone with a prostate
LokiShade
Confirmed
Pulsahr
happyoutofspite
Or without one!
fantasma21
Boom9001
There are many examples of him in the bible of testing people. I don't believe this stuff, just know that this wouldn't be proof to anyone.
Followup. The book of James does say god does not tempt people, but the book of Genesis says god tempted Abraham. One of many contradictions
rainevasquez
Semantics, but in genius’s god “tested” Abraham. Teleological, but for both job and Abraham, the difference is in the ending. Tho if the 1/
Gotta love the many translations making small changing to meaning. You could equally call the g-spot thing a "test" rather than "temptation"
Genesis*
Apple in Eden wasn’t a test then I dunno what the fuck is
ProjectDA
hard to tell as you know, smashing many stories that they themselves are other stories combined with burning those that question it ¹
WoodfolkFae
Yes I understand you're just playing devils advocate
Well more than that. When you make these arguments Christians see it and believe all non-religious arguments are this easily disproved. /
/ You're fighting against serious indoctrination. We have so many good arguments for atheism, stop making bad ones.
I was making a joke because you were playing devils advocate for god
IbPalle
Interesting using Tolkien as reference. There is no religion in Middle Earth.
DameDePiques
Even more interesting : there are gods, and yet no religion.
Shaodyn
Telling people they suck isn't the way to get them to convert. It's weird, but insulting people makes them LESS likely to do what you say.
NYC2BrklynCubz
LabyrinthBuilder
Ehm
DigiT00l
Those are asexual characters, like quite literally, they may be homoromantic, but they are asexual
DigiT00l
I mean that as in, Gaiman writes his angels to be sexless, like they quite literally do not have the parts needed to fuck
BurrhusBacchus
ValidGirthCertificate
I think that person wouldn't like my buddies fan fiction. Im sorry but Jesus was cool with women. But all of his 12 follower were men.
JhericFury
If your God says gay people aren't allowed to be happy, he's not my god, regardless of whether he exists.
hackller
religion's all made up anyway!
theawake
Also? Tolkien's work is highly homoromantic. Fascists are weird.
Decemberscrow
Every time I see Neil Gaiman social media like this it gives me motivation to write so I too can become an epic writer who DGAF.
Decemberscrow
Mr. Gaiman, this shutting off of imgur and writing the rest of my comute is in your honor.
kikaria115
Lol and here I was so confused why EA was talking negativity about gay sex when they fuck everyone in the ass all the time.
trikucian
Clearly Neil Gaiman's next book is going to be supernatural gay erotica, and I'm all here for it
AgamemnonsMemes
"Stop writing about gay sex" Neil: "You know what, i'm going to write about gay sex even harder..."
Betterbecauseofthem
Yeah. Accept Jesus Christ, convert to Christianity & molest children. Nothing wrong there
T410N
If God didn't want children molested, why does the church protect pedophiles? /s
zysis
Hey now, Jews, Muslims and even Scientologists aren't immune to kiddy fiddlers in their ranks. Read the Koran or check Seinfelds' wifes age
Neurisko
Only someone who is secretly gay or bi would insist that homo sex is a lifestyle choice.
ToonamiT0M
FranticRed
**caveat : I like Tolkein, LOTR, The Hobbit, etc** ...however, Tolkein wrote the Dragonball Z of fantasy. Great story... when it moves.
CaldariBob
Besides... Sam & Frodo?
?noredirect
mormacil
mormacil
BluePaladin42
Bilbo remained a bachelor all his life, and that was basically code for gay for Tolkien's time period. Just sayin'.
WilliamHuskerAdama
There were several early drafts of TFotR that referenced Bilbo getting married and having kids.
BluePaladin42
And yet, those aren't the ones he decided to use...
WilliamHuskerAdama
No, he decided not to reference his sexuality at all. Saying "He's a bachelor so clearly he was gay" is just silly
HarrisonTheViking
Bilbo is a hobbit and I think that means his sexuality doesn't matter because all the other Hobbits would be fine with it
WilliamHuskerAdama
Not what's being discussed here, but agreed?
HarrisonTheViking
The shire is the ideal paradise
mity0k23
A blogger with 113 followers talking shit to Gaiman. Epic. Also, has anyone heard a gay person obsess about “straight” sex?
WhichIsIt
If follower count matters, Justin Bieber’s opinion is among the most important
ToSisPoS
I always hear ranting about the heterosexual agenda.
nipplepanties
Just young internet gays. Very snippy and holier than thou. Though it's likely due to age and immaturity.
starkraven13
I don't think you've heard a straight person obsess about gay sex either. The proverbial closet is full of these people.
mity0k23
The latter point notwithstanding, I imagine a lot of the gay-bashers are straight.
Karukos
I know a straight dude who obsesses over Lesbian porn... does that count?
keillrandor
I resemble that remark... Considering I'm not getting any with anyone, I might aswell watch what I know I like (women).
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NotTheSameAnymore
Huh, always thought that was only a Pornhub category.
DatDarthCaedus
That's also used by non-gay people who are against people having children for various reasons, or are specifically mocking people whose 1/
DatDarthCaedus
only "accomplishment" in life is to have children, tho.
eadanke
I knew one lesbian obsessed with straight men masturbating to gay sex. Does that count?
mity0k23
I imagine she was positively obsessed, so probably not.
eadanke
She was annoyed by the fetishization of homosexuality. I doubt she would have supported stopping people from doing it though.
mormacil
GandalfTheGhey
whoa
DameDePiques
Took me some time to understand what I was seeing, but... wow!
HonkeyKawng
I know this is not the point, and maybe an unpopular opinion, but while Tolkien was a great storyteller, he was not actually a good writer.
SteveTheEgg
The Hibbut is amazing, LOTR is romantic drivel and everything else is as lively as a college history book. Good stories, but terrible format
ElBurroLoco
The Hibbut? This gave me vowel cancer.
Nikolai5
Yeah, but it doesn't matter, we enjoy his work. Christians reference him because they like to co-opt his work.
AdrianDunne
I don't like poetry all that much, so I don't get on well with LotR.
zysis
Agreed. Simarillion or w/e is such a convoluted and drawn out story that it's hard to remember the actual events because Tolkien rambles
rshini
Wasn't it basically incomplete and cobbled together from his notes?
Allrighty
You have to consider what he's trying to do there, which is create a new mythology. He's going for a certain style and register.
DigiT00l
Tbf, he wasn't done with it, he needed to write a bit more and edit the entire thing, but he kinda suffered an existence failure
zysis
Yeah true is was a collective work and Tolkien wasn't exactly one to sell to publishers on time or even what they wanted from him.
CeruleanK
I think there's a pattern of it. A Great Story is so simple that it must be padded with bad writing to make it long enough to be recognized.
CeruleanK
Like, look at Moby-Dick, it's interminable and unreadable, so thank logos it can be summed up in ten seconds and still sink into our culture
CeruleanK
It extends to other media, like no one would see Undertale's "great story" if it didn't have extremely long walks full of bullshit
GeorgeCostabaplaps
Logos = God, but God made butt-sex possible - plus space-docking, rimming your caesar and BDSM so checkmate
shotty814
Fengor
As Gene Wilder said in his role as Willy Wonka "My dear, if God intended for us to walk he wouldn't have invented roller-skates."
BabyBumbleBee3
Christians would say it was the devil who perverted the butt for such things, sauce I unfortunately gre up in a homophobic church. >
GeorgeCostabaplaps
Hey you're lucky you learned it was the butt before you were 14. I grew up Catholic, so I just thought gay dudes mashed dicks. Lol
Quixus
If the devil could do that God either is not omnipotent or maliciously let it happen, assuming he isn't fine with it anyway.
BabyBumbleBee3
Agreed. It makes no sense for a "Loving God" to allow even a fraction of the evils exist in the world.
BabyBumbleBee3
For the record, I am very much pride friendly now, somehow grew up not thinking like them.
FoxyEllie
we two are of soul
AmZero85
Christianity created anti-gay policy as a reaction to Roman and Greek religions which were cool with it. 1/2
AmZero85
The leviticus verse they pull has been mistranslated and was most likely a rule against pedophilia. 2/2
ExTechOp
If you are going to follow Leviticus, you really need tassels (tzitzit) with blue thread on your cloak. Jesus said 10 commandments suffice.
ExTechOp
NT: Jesus never mentions homosexuality or such acts. Only one with issues perhaps Paul, who used to be a traditional Jew and never met J.
Youhavinagiraffe
Logos = Off brand plastic toy construction bricks
MouseKeyboard
...space-docking?
Thisisirrelvantcontent
Google it... but no... google it
hwatL4bloopy
What logos ?
Cilvaa
I thought they meant the hovership in The Matrix..
madcatii
I feel like starting a chain: Logos, the Elven archer from The Lord of the Rings.
TheAziz
No no, that's Legolas. Logos is world famous Danish toy company.
TurduckenMcNugget
No no, that's Legos. Logos is a city in Nigeria.
GlebReawer
From wikipedia Logos: In Christology, the Logos is a name or title of Jesus Christ, seen as the pre-existent second person of the Trinity.
singedrino
Oh, boy, I love that the whole name of Jesus is the same title just in different forms... etymology is cool
Override9636
You gotta make the title of your messiah cool when his name is basically the Aramaic version of "Josh".
Notuniquesnowflake
I had to Google it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos_(Christianity)
Cilvaa
How many fucking names does he have?!
sphericalworld
He was originally the god of war and then they turned him into the lovey lovey god.
wobblecopterrrr
Jesus was hella woke
FetaForMoses
Took him like three days.
jimcake
He's a sleepy guy.
KungFuAnimeJesus
TheYoungerChrisEvans
*Kneel
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
There's *certain* people who would pay good money for that.... and by *certain* and *people* I mean me
MrOne2
Gay Neilman
reverendbonobo
Kneel, gay man.
1morebanforafreeshake
More gay sex in protest of the church.
v
ambiantlight
Its what Jesus and his harem of 12 men would have wanted.
Echo18
Make like Martin Luther and get nailed against a church door.
FailureFactory
Martin Luther was the one nailing, though. (Also the church door thing is historically inaccurate, but whatever.)
ssweenCreator
MatthewJohnsona
https://preview.redd.it/kj7vjvuj2oz81.gif?format=mp4&s=256dbd8a18c8f693f9c781beafe9409e1778310c
HeywouldJablowme
I wish I had that gif of a giant gay sex pile from South Park to drive away the time travelers to respond. Imgur, Do your thing
aRepost
Back in the pile everyone!
darkslyde
Meqad
Magma45
If you’re talking about the Catholic Church, gay (underage) sex might not be a much of a protest.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
SODOMY FOR SANCTITY!
shotty814
IN THE SACRISTY!
NachtReborn
ON A SACRED DAY!
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
With Alanis Morresit on a tricycle
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Ooooopppphhhh...nice one
kojenk
Ive always seen those cases as being similar to prison. its more about dominance and control by those establishing authority in a microbiom
LumpPump
thanks for the proof then thats its even more fucked up than we had feared. really fitting& no surprise tho for a guilt trip cult(religion)
shotty814
Gutpilegutezeit
Noahbalboa82
ToSisPoS
Jesus that’s Erotic
drunkbs
caerulakid
I legit wanna know who the model is in this picture cause he kinda makes me wanna try Christianity out. That’s really fucking impressive.
komododave
HollywoodHells
Ah. The good Dave yeeteth the meme and I yoinketh it away.
Thewayofthebear
drunkbs
JohnPtempkinReborn
RaytheForgetful
What the fuuuuck
homoerection
Nailed it
RaytheForgetful
NOOOOO
TheMouseOfMadness
I've never met a gay person that thinks about gay sex as much as right wing christians do
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
That's cause you don't think about the things you get regularly.
RandAIFlagg
As a bi man with a hot boyfriend I don't think about gay sex as much as right wing christians do
CthuluChan
I think of having sex with another woman at least 10 times an hour
PolyTheWicked
I’ve met a few who were close, but right wing Christian nutjobs are absolutely obsessed with it.
rbudrick
The gayest thing is being overly concerned with what members of your own sex do with their genitals.
ReallyNotAVampire
So you lied then. Cuz they very often are gay.
Shoutrr
that's because they think of gay relationship as only and purely sexual in nature.
capughe
No love or commitment, just debauchery and disease. Also assume a projection of the Church's own predatory/conversion behavior.
capughe
Not that I am against ethical commitment free sex or debauchery, it just doesn't describe every relationship, and the church is against it.
Ihadtoditchmyotherusernamebecauseofyou
I for one welcome a bit of debauchery sprinkled in with actual love and commitment.
Syovere
I fully support ethical sluttery, myself.
Ikusame
That's how they think of straight relationships. Just for sex, baby making, and having a pair of titties to watch the baby.
Shoutrr
it's the usual conservative trait of assuming "they must do it because it's what i'd do". it's usually applied to illegal stuff, because
Shoutrr
they are trash people.
Abominablesloth
All day they dream about Dicks
NorthmanoftheNorth
Imagine being gay and denying yourself what you covet the most though. It's not weird that they're so fixated about it.
PolyTheWicked
If they’re protesting that loudly, they are 100 in the closet and thinking about gay sex 24/7.
HeywouldJablowme
It can't be nearly as much as I think about regular sex with a super hot chick with a nice ass. Just easier. Like hey dude, wanna fuck? Yea!
PalaverQuader
aha. so u think switching into a minority group aka NOT SO MANY will give you MORE opportunity to have sex? yeah.. well.. math ! my dude. >
PalaverQuader
cause these minorities come with ALL the flaws the majorities come with aswell. all the things that are "no go" for you apply there aswell.>
PalaverQuader
u dont broaden your sexual possibilities, u narrow them down... because, i know its hard to imagine, interhuman relationships are not ONLY>
PalaverQuader
dictated by "who puts which part in whose orifices" but also.. like feelings.. not fucky fucky urges. darn those fucky fucky urges.
HeywouldJablowme
Gay dudes have it made.
thatiswhyyoushoulddoityourself
I can assure you, we have types, and most of us can get quite picky about our partners.
AmZero85
Bi Dude here, you think they have it made...
allihearisnoise
Which is a stereotype built by those who wish to dehumanise and vilify gay and queer ppl
CowboyRooster
I mean, some aspects are simpler, but it's also kinda awkward to find someone to bonk sometimes, unless you want to aggressively announce /
CowboyRooster
your sexuality everywhere you go. So there's that.
Xasax1
You've never been on Grindr, I take it?
UrKungFuNoGood
then you don't know many gay guys because they are by far the horniest fuckers around
cottontailvestments
I assume by your use if “they” that you are not in fact a a “gay guy.” I happen to be and can say that we are portrayed as/
cottontailvestments
Being much hornier than we actually are. I think we just have less hang ups about sex than our heteronormative counterparts.
UrKungFuNoGood
Well I did ten years in various drama troupes including a couple of years in San Francisco so my anecdotal experience might be extreme lol
greentights
I wonder if it's cuz gay sex won't result in babies or that you've the same parts so the sex is just better from practice
Gayforbae
Yes and
Gayforbae
Yes, we are, and yet right wing Christians seem to far out strip us in thinking about gay sex.
BentwanJameson
At least, according to your agenda, you guys take off Tuesdays for tacos and Sundays for brunch. Christians certainly don't.
UrKungFuNoGood
proof there is no God!
UrKungFuNoGood
I always tell them "if you look at me and think of butt stuff I have some bad news for you buddy"
UrKungFuNoGood
If I feel like smashing some guy's nose through the back of his head I'll see if I can provoke with-
UrKungFuNoGood
"Just because you want to suck MY dick it doesn't make me gay" No takers but probably because I'm a 240 lb 3rd generation Marine
sherlockdata
FalcorTheUrinator
When they THINK no one is watching them lol
andrewcmoffitt0
They love it sooo much it makes them mad.
thatiswhyyoushoulddoityourself
Daaaaaang. They must be relentless if they think of it more than I do.
PalaverQuader
the real butt pirates.
arlet
i work with some of these people, it's not hyperbole. every day. they find a way to bring it up in conversation ever single day.
Axianamos
Is it every 7 seconds?
pumly
It depends … would you think about it more, or less if weren’t getting any? But maybe you’re not. Or they are. #exasperatedshrugmeme
SecondToNine
I've heard they think about it a lot and they have to punish themselves for their sinful thoughts. With a whip.
PalaverQuader
mmm yeah!! imagine where the BDSM world would be without the catholic church! torturing like amateurs they would be!
ksac62
ProcrastinatorMasturnater
And then they get real confused when the whip starts turning them on.
JangoF76
We punish each other a lot too
blackguard89
yeah but you have a safe word
UrKungFuNoGood
you guys have a safe word?
hasgreatsituationalawareness
They tell on themselves a lot, don't they?
DooksandPooks
Closeted gay Christian’s become the worst bullies. All they really need to do is be taught how to love themselves. #Jerk it for Jesus
OseaDidNothingWrong
Damn son, I think about gay sex a shitload, they do it more than me??
monikir
I have to stay vigilant or Satan will put thoughts of me getting a rim job at a pilot gas station from a 300 lb trucker named Bucky :s
LetsEatGrandpaCommasSaveLives
Facts.
Beezlebubble
One of the bartenders I bounce at is gay - super nice guy, and I've talked with him and tried to help him with his most recent relationship
Beezlebubble
Problems - don't think I can recall him talking about sex more than once other than to say he and his partner were really compatible.
Beezlebubble
Now people who are super homophobic? It's ALL they seem to talk about. What a strange obsession
kakkiainen790
in Finland we have this sayin, that goes like; If You are relentlesly talking about it, then You are lacking of it, and You really want it.
TheCharedLizard
You've obviously never been in a furry telegram chat
TheMouseOfMadness
I run several, and I grew up in the rural south in a small town with waaaay too many churches. My statement stands.
dirtcreature
Or priests, apparently. Let's not pretend that decades, if not centuries of abuse continues to this day.
HaveYouHuggedYourUndertakerToday
Great book about this called "The Sex Lives of the Popes". It has never not happened in the history of the church.
CoarseAndSalty
I feel like you have but you were like "No way this guy is gay, he's so homophobic, that would be unreasonable!"
decomposingcomposers
I most certainly have, but I get your point and still agree.
dennisbatt
As an LGBTQ+ person, it's just sex. We think of it as frequently as you do.
kittyanya
I'm bi-curious and barely think about it. Busy living and playing WoW and Minecraft. Also Covid sucks.
ErniesWidow
Every accusation is a confession
ArandomDane
In Denmark We have up to 500 that not even your right wingers can beat of. I know this because "Constant risk of HIV from new partners" 1/2
CommentBot3000
I'm going to politely ask you to rephrase this, as I have no clue what you're saying. Maybe an article or something?
ArandomDane
Government PrEP budget is to 500people. You need to prove to a doctor that you constantly have unprotected sex with a high risk group (1/2)
ArandomDane
(2/2) Aka have their life revolve around sex with a segment of the gay community. Source is a Danish documentary on the subject.
ArandomDane
2/3 and "sex driver to the point that condom is not used with at risk demographic" is part of the requirement to get PrEP for free.
ArandomDane
3/3 The doctors are apparently required to make sure as the drug costs $50 000 per person per year
100KushUps
As a not random Dane, source?
ArandomDane
Det var en dr dokumetar men jeg huskede forkert med prissen der er kun 25 000dkr om året ikke om måneden. MEn kan ikke finde den. Start 1/2
ArandomDane
2/2 her https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/martin-tager-hver-dag-en-pille-der-beskytter-ham-mod-hiv hvis du selv vil lede samme mand...
bubbawasmybestgoodfriend
if God didn't want men to have gay sex then why did he put their g-spot in their butt
adage009
Check mate atheists
HandoB4Javert
Molvanian
Maybe God is into pegging?
EggsaretheDevil
Sounds old fashioned. You don't have to be gay to enjoy but stuff.
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
God is omnipresent. He's IN the g-spot in the butt.
ThePretentiousGentleman
That’s why trans women are a blessing for straight cis men. Finally! A woman we can bring to climax!
Lampmonster
This is the same god that forbade shellfish after making them out of lobster and crab meat!
Fengor
I'm convinced that was like a local thing because someone in the tribe had a shellfish allergy and it got mistranslated to the larger lore.
Lampmonster
I've read an argument that both the shellfish and the mixed clothes rules are to prevent interacting with traders and sailors who were -
Lampmonster
- often also slavers and would kidnap people of the tribe to press into slavery.
sturm24
Good point
SBlueberry
Thought you said Good Spot
PalaverQuader
good point ; G-Spot .. same-same ?
HandoB4Javert
HerrHat
Go ahead. You can stick your finger there. Try to find the spot.
MarioBoon
You fool, if the g-spot doesn't exist in women, why would it exist in men? /s
Zacb0
It’s almost as if God didn’t do anything because he’s just like the Easter bunny and santy clause
CGWN
PlanetOfIce
Oh no did someone hurt your feelings? You should pray about it
MrNardtastic
The point was god is a man made construct. Make believe. Not real. Fake. Doesn't exist. Never did. It was a pretty clear point actually.
songbringer
So I am gay, just because I like amazing buttsex?
EmptyHouseBurglar
I know you're kidding, but if not: See Klein, his scale, and really all the more recent theory on sex and relationships.
Xasax1
No... Just that God *wants* you to be gay.
tcpolecat7
Nah, you could always get a girl with a strap-on to peg you.
PalaverQuader
Where is the "sexuality-chart" when u need one?
DaveSamsonite
XarioWithoutALastName
No, but it's easy and convenient. But you're right, amazing butt Sex is possible for anyone with a prostate
LokiShade
Confirmed
Pulsahr
happyoutofspite
Or without one!
fantasma21
Boom9001
There are many examples of him in the bible of testing people. I don't believe this stuff, just know that this wouldn't be proof to anyone.
Boom9001
Followup. The book of James does say god does not tempt people, but the book of Genesis says god tempted Abraham. One of many contradictions
rainevasquez
Semantics, but in genius’s god “tested” Abraham. Teleological, but for both job and Abraham, the difference is in the ending. Tho if the 1/
Boom9001
Gotta love the many translations making small changing to meaning. You could equally call the g-spot thing a "test" rather than "temptation"
rainevasquez
Genesis*
rainevasquez
Apple in Eden wasn’t a test then I dunno what the fuck is
ProjectDA
hard to tell as you know, smashing many stories that they themselves are other stories combined with burning those that question it ¹
WoodfolkFae
Yes I understand you're just playing devils advocate
Boom9001
Well more than that. When you make these arguments Christians see it and believe all non-religious arguments are this easily disproved. /
Boom9001
/ You're fighting against serious indoctrination. We have so many good arguments for atheism, stop making bad ones.
WoodfolkFae
I was making a joke because you were playing devils advocate for god