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Green Berets are notified of child abuse. Higher ups advised to let locals take care of it.
Captain Dan Quinn, was removed from command and later left the Army.
TL:DR Badasses beat the shit out of a child abuser and get shit from the Army. Army makes it half right, reinstated Sgt. First Class Charles Martland today.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/28/politics/green-beret-afghan-police-confrontation/index.html
FP Edit: Show me something interesting.
SejayBebo
Upvote because he was reinstated yesterday. Bull spit.
Immortals4Centuries
Good for him!
preaction
"He ran into my knife. He ran into it 10 times."
FlyingFlamingoKick
Does he have a go fund me page? I'd gladly support it.
TheNowBannedBecauseOfBullshitCommunityRulesChaoticNachos
Fuck those
elegantmango
What of the mother and child?
bond100
It's likely the kid will get killed and the mother face retribution, happens all the time in Afghanistan
TheNowBannedBecauseOfBullshitCommunityRulesChaoticNachos
Kicked there ass too. ( jokes )
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
They're still stuck in a shithole of a country that thinks it's OK.
elegantmango
Maybe. That's assuminh they were left alone, which I have a feeling isn't the case.
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
There's a chance the report of the beating omitted them killing the pieces of shit who were the problem.
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
That was why the army said to ignore it though, they know what happens to someone there if they can't extract them from the country.
WabbitCZEN
Because their culture accepts those acts as normal, and our military won't interfere with their culture, no matter how wrong it is.
TheNowBannedBecauseOfBullshitCommunityRulesChaoticNachos
That's not true at all
gandersxX
Unfortunately it is, Before deployments we're to not to disrupt the natives's way of life. But there's only so much you can take.
coupa
Google bacha bazi. Najibullah Qureshi made a documentary about it and how it's still rampant today.
Thendofall
Be all you can be!
DezzyE
I'd give him a metal for having enough control not to discharge his weapon on the pos.
gnarledhalo
No good deed goes unpunished
Insomnia297
Everyone likes vengence.
lmgursLibertarian
On a related note: FL. State convicts have more legal rights than Correctional Officers. Defending yourself against a convict can = fired.
TheNowBannedBecauseOfBullshitCommunityRulesChaoticNachos
Well that sucks
lmgursLibertarian
Source: Both parents were COs for 25+ years
scabab
thats not more legal rights. thats just the fact that one of them is already in prison.
zma123456
A lot of people in the army are full of dicks. I mean most of the authority figures in the army are assholes.
TerryMason
That type of justice is all they understand, remember they don't have laws or a justice system like we do
TheNowBannedBecauseOfBullshitCommunityRulesChaoticNachos
So that gives you the right to enforce your own? No.
bond100
"raping a child repeatedly and being proud of it is wrong" should be a universal, if not THE universal law of humanity.
Haydanas
Should have both been promoted.
idownvoteplottwist
Not disagreeing with his actions, but no one is getting a promotion for disobeying orders.
justacap
Let us all act according to national customs. -- Charles James Napier
justacap
Of course, I really think the punishment should've been what's outlined in the Koran for sodomy. :)
FormerRoustabout
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/homosexual.htm
DaveyLD
he took out the trash
bond100
Duty, responsibility, honor, and integrity demanded this. He should have shot the fucker on the spot.
hipgrandma
Big ups to the soldier for doing what he felt was right, despite command. but that boy and his mother have probably been killed for this
OmenRider
and now they have yet another potential insider threat to worry about.
NickUnknown
this guy trying to fix the middle east one body slam at a time lmao
SayWhatYouMeanMeanWhatYouSay
I like his system. Green Beret body slams for all criminals world wide.
bond100
Happens all the fucking time. And I get to listen to college kids bitch and moan about how accusing Afghans of child rape is racist.
ArchonErikr
I hate it how the military teaches us something and stresses that we do it, then punishes us when we do it.
aromaticfable
It stresses one thing above all: "Do whatever the fuck your commander tells you." This guy rightfully didn't.
ArchonErikr
And it'll punish you if you disobey and do the right thing or obey and do the wrong thing. Abandon all sense, ye who enter the US military.
valkuma
Alleged child molester? Isn't that like treating people as guilty with no evidence?
CitizenDickbag
Sorry, but due process exists for a reason. In Iraq, it was entirely common for people to denounce neighbors as terrorists and get them 1/2
bond100
Neighbor denouncing neighbor sure. We're talking about a place where the entire village knows the police chief admits he rapes a boy.
CitizenDickbag
Missing the point. You either have due process or you don't. If you don't, then abuses will be rampant.
bond100
Rural Afghanistan doesn't have rule of law, let alone due process.
CitizenDickbag
But WE do. And this is about OUR standards and accountability.
bond100
Yeah we hold our soldiers to a high moral code, and a low legal one. And when they follow that high moral code in the face of immoral orders
bond100
we smash them with the low legal one, and we call that "accountability" without ever once wondering why honorable men disobeyed.
CitizenDickbag
2/2 raided/hauled away so they could steal their neighbor's stuff, or settle a beef. False reports are extremely common forms of revenge.
TheToll
The guy laughed it off and said "it's just a boy". No wonder he attacked him.
OmenRider
See: the Doctors Without Borders bombing in Afghanistan. Likely bad intel or a shitty grudge by the ANA
SomethingOffensive
In the army's defense, the soldiers only had the word of the locals. There was no damning proof or video it was the police cheif doing that.
zoomtothemoon
Sounds like he admitted to the rapes though saying it was fine because 'it was just a boy'. Confession is pretty good evidence.
SomethingOffensive
Confession isn't even full proof evidence anymore. He could have confessed to it while being beaten.
OmenRider
Still not good enough to stoop to local standards of street justice. Glad the soldier was reinstated, but that's not the right way to do it
314159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494
I think that the log for that day should read "nothing significant to report"
RedWebster
How the fuck long does it take you to log onto imgur?
coupa
There's been rampant pedophilia in Afghan Army's barracks. It's sad that the US has to turn a blind eye to it.
axeypants
That user name
DildoSchwagins
EXACTLY, why the fuck would you include this in your report?
ArtemisOzzimmer
Honesty and a misplaced belief that your superiors are honest and decent men?
HardcoreHeathen
Because honesty is a discharge and a false report is decades in Leavenworth?
windedsloth
If he was asked directly by his superiors if he did it. He wound more likely get a GOMOR or repremand.
whatWolf
fucking Spock...
wearetheoriginofspecies
NSTR... GOLD!
PsychoCajun
You fuckers make me proud
afbujinkan
4 of my favorite letters.
ThisIsNoCave
Yeah, vigilante justice sounds great and all, but I'm sort of glad our military guys can't just beat the shit out of people when they want
RexBry
Yea! If the military starts doing what are the cops gonna do?! THAT'S THEIR FUCKING JOB!!!
314159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494
What other option did he have? It was this or let the boy continue to be raped.
InFin0819
Devil's advocate: perhaps beating turns into end of local support. New enemy staging area. People die from attacks launched from area
soso456
or maybe the child abuser was already supporting the insurgent. There is no point thinking like that without facts.
bond100
If local support hinges on permitting child rape 1. I don't give a fuck if they die. and 2. Maybe we should be the ones killing them.
InFin0819
The people dying in my case were Americans and allies who are being attacked by enemies now hidden by local police
bond100
If we're not willing to risk a few of ourselves to end shit like this why even pretend we care? Some sacrifices are worth making.
UpVotesPlease
You investigate it like anything else. Which they did and have since reinstated him.
CwispyNoodles
I think its more of a no special treatment type of issue as in, no matter who or why you stil broke the rules.
YoungRascal
Five minutes is a long time to get your ass kicked
Serega81
Especially by an operator
WhatyoudontknowaboutFUCKMOUNTAINcankillyou
Two weeks is a long time to get raped.
gonzar09
my thoughts exactly. My martial arts master fought me for 5 minutes straight as part of my 1st dan promotion. It was torturous.
bond100
If you molest a goddamn kid the lightest you should get away with is a bullet in the head on the spot.
Afreeman81
That's too light. Ends the suffering to quick. Honestly I think we should torture them for weeks.
TheWayADrillWorks
Tie him to a pole and rub this on his junk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrocnide_moroides
Afreeman81
I like the way you think.
CharlesOffdensen
So is 2 weeks.
dogfrost9
@YoungRascal said ass "kicked". Not ass "dicked".
EconomyWarf
That escalated quickly.
kinkySOULdier
This exchange was fantastic
runeking884
All kinds of not okay
xerotciv
Bruh
fatherjokes
He's reinstated as of today: http://americanmilitarynews.com/2016/04/victory-green-beret-reinstated-after-beating-afghan-child-molester/
koopaya
This makes me so happy
Roserapaine
FormerRoustabout
Huzzah!
Schmuck4hire
There's the same story with the soldier who accompanied him: http://news.sky.com/story/1687538/soldier-who-beat-afghan-paedophile-keeps-job
jenw
Those comments make me so angry. People who comment on news stories are some of the most ignorant I've ever witnessed.
fatherjokes
Which comments are you referring to? On the website for the article or here?
Theodrian
Read the comment again.
fatherjokes
Gotcha. Missed that cause the comments didn't show up when I was on the site (not sure if adblocker hides them or what)
4FingeredBandit
What about capt. Quinn though?
Cuntilingus
FUCK YES
TheThingNoNotThatOne
"Vigilante who flies into blind, violent rage reinstated into elite military team."
WhatJesusWouldDo
"MLG bodyslamming champ rekts scrub out of camp, gg no re"
SaintMaceToTheFace
You are taking the side of a violent child rapist. Think about that
TheThingNoNotThatOne
So if someone's accused of a terrible crime, we should ignore due process, not investigate, and just beat the shit out of them?
fatherjokes
The guy bragged about it. HE ADMITTED IT
TheThingNoNotThatOne
So you're saying that a confession is all you need to beat the shit out of someone? Well shit, why even have a court system at all?
TheThingNoNotThatOne
Because I mean, there's no such thing as forced confessions, and we're a society that's okay with investigators assaulting/killing suspects
sasaroo
Fuck yeah!
tetsouomaiwamo
Guck yeah
tetsouomaiwamo
Fucking autocorrect
whybother
Gucking autocorrect
2OI8
This is a good Friday *knocks on wood*
NuclearBoxcutter
*soaks logs in wood*
spookyu
Yeah, for some reason everything on the front page right now is awesome, the update of his reinstatement most of all).
TheNowBannedBecauseOfBullshitCommunityRulesChaoticNachos
I see why he did it and I agree with his decision but I also understand why the army did what they did.
soso456
The army did that because everyone above him was willing to protec his own ass. Nothing more.
MathiasGrim
I honestly think they should have reprimanded him or punished him in some other way than dischargeing him
ShaggyUK
Agreed
jtwilliams37
Condoning those actions 2
Snooj
They cannot possibly go on record condoning justice without trial. Murder has to be authorized in triplicate.
kmikl
Better solution: Give the fellow a stick. Have him point the stick at one of the troops. Have everyone else shoot the unlucky sod. /1
kmikl
/2 Call it threat mitigation training.
BitchButcher
The exception should prove the rule. I can't believe there are many cases like him when Army has to kick someone.
scrim4
Agreed. It's shitty AF, but the Green Berets specialize in living and fighting with the locals. And what the dirtbag did is Afghan culture.
jtwilliams37
I am an army vet and agree. I can't say I wouldnt have done the same but that's vigilante justice, the army can't set the precedent of 1
Romale
eh, i thought about it and pretty sure theres some general order somewhere for this so never mind
Romale
dunno, dude wasn't a US citizen and wasn't on US soil, Sofa gives him immunity, and i can't think of any punitive articles it violates
Monkofthepast
not to mention sofa is a contentious issue, and an incident like this is room to argue against it. Commit a crime in korea...
Corrodias
Er... laws aren't the reason we don't want to act like assholes. We put laws in place BECAUSE we don't want people acting like assholes.
Corrodias
In other words, you've got the cause and effect switched around. Vigilantism is unwanted, regardless of whether it's technically legal.
lordofthedice
Would still set a precedent within the organization of the army itself that its okay for soldiers to take these matters into their own hands
override367
yep, the army is very much about you not personally deciding who to employ violence against outside of ROE
NAKSAYSTHEDUCK
I would also like to say this fucking molester deserved it and the Army should actually honour this Sgt. But true, there are always 2 sides.
DickDastardly404
When you're in the army, you have to accept the ruling of your higher-ups. You sign on the dotted line and your ass is property of the 1/2
DickDastardly404
US government (or whichever country) until your service is up. Ofc, you are still free to act as you see fit, but you gotta remember 1.5/2
DickDastardly404
that you made two decisions. The second was that you were not gonna leave that child rapist unbeaten, the first was that you consent 1.75/2
DickDastardly404
to the army's way of punishing you when you disobey orders. 2/2
WhyNotUncleIroh
But who's right?
revenfett
In a sense this is how then end of a few good men played out...
billymaditsdone
"Yo, Taylor, I'm really happy for you and I'mma let you finish, but Beyoncé had one of the best videos of all time."
KlutzyZ
Elaborate
TheNowBannedBecauseOfBullshitCommunityRulesChaoticNachos
+1 for wanting to understand at the very least
KlutzyZ
its all good I feel the people who downvote have never actually been in a warzone, I have which is why I wanted an elaboration
ImHereToPissYouOff
The army can't condone justice like that. They may agree with it and even support it off the record but they have to punish him publicly.
soso456
there is just a lot of other options.
UpVotesPlease
That's using the noodle. Glad they reinstated him but really it would have to be a case by case basis for violence like this.
Gingingergypsy
Exactly, which is probably why he was reinstated after being immediately discharged
MadVillainousDave
I got arrested for beating the crap out of a guy that I saw slap his girlfriend, I accepted the consequences and stand by my action.
MinorClarification
Hey! What if that is their foreplay?
HillOfBeans
I understand the impulse, but hitting someone to teach them not to hit someone isn't logical.
SaintMaceToTheFace
No. But if I saw some hitting their gf they are getting a lesson
AlbertoMX
What if you were to see someone hitting their bf?
SaintMaceToTheFace
I won't hit a woman but I would restrain
bond100
It very much is. There is nothing in life that teaches a lesson so quickly and thoroughly as properly applied violence and pain.
HillOfBeans
So the girlfriend didn't "deserve" to learn that lesson too? Still not logical.
nowitsshowtime
What should he have done, call the cops? I'm sure they would have been right on the case.
DeathAbuse
I got arrested for beating up a guy who beat up another guy that slapped his girlfriend
Dot4Later
I got beat up for giving myself a high five.
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Piewhore
Who doesn't?
RayCordero
You sir. I like you.
Tehadam
I got beat up for getting beat up.